Talk:IBM/Archive 2

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined.

Hi, I'm Jason, and I'm here on behalf of IBM as part of my work with Beutler Ink (which I've disclosed at the top of this page as well). As someone with a conflict of interest, I will abstain from directly editing the article and instead, post requests to be reviewed and implemented by volunteers. I recently proposed a new article about John E. Kelly III, EVP of IBM, which was approved at Articles for Creation earlier this week. In light of the draft acceptance, I am requesting to add relevant information pertaining to Dr. Kelly to the IBM article's History section. As the director of research, Dr. Kelly has played a major role at IBM over the course of his 40-year tenure, but he is not mentioned in the current article. Will an editor please review my proposed language and sourcing below, and implement if appropriate?

• InformationWeek described John E. Kelly III as the "father of Watson" and credited him for encouraging the system to compete against humans on Jeopardy!^[1] Kelly's book, Smart Machines: IBM's Watson and the Era of Cognitive Computing, notes that cognitive computers like Watson are intended for making sense of big data, or large amounts of text, images and voice files.^[2]

• IBM was represented by Kelly at a conference on the ethics of artificial intelligence (AI) organized by the Pontifical Academy for Life, where the "Rome Call for AI Ethics" was signed, which advocated for the responsible use of AI technologies.^[3][4] Following, Kelly also announced IBM's partnership with the Bambino Gesù Hospital in Vatican City to use Watson to gather data about brain cancer and other diseases.^[5]

I see Watson and Jeopardy! are mentioned in the History section already, but I hope editors find this additional context helpful and in line with the other notable people and projects mentioned. The purpose of the second bullet is to demonstrate Watson does more than just compete on television game shows. I understand editors will have the ultimate say in how the proposed text is implemented. I'm also curious if John E. Kelly III belongs in Template:IBM.

Thanks in advance for feedback or updating the article on my behalf. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@MapleSoy: I'm struggling to find someone to review this request. Since you moved the Kelly biography into main space, I wonder if you'd be willing to review this request to add mention of Kelly to this article and possibly Template:IBM as well. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 15:53, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

​Since Spintendo is no longer active, requests can linger for up to 2 months in the request queue.  Not done, this is a high-level article about the major points of the history of a huge corporation, so we have to move details into related articles where possible. The proposed addition reads like a name-drop. He is not even mentioned in the intro of Watson (computer). David Ferrucci is not mentioned in this article. Interested readers can follow the link to the article on Watson. Do take care that future requests satisfy WP:DUE, an article should not be left with a conspicuous slant in who is named and who is not. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Although the nickname Big Blue is brought up, there is no mention of the phrase and concept of IBM and the seven dwarfs /dwarves. See, e.g., http://www.dvorak.org/blog/ibm-and-the-seven-dwarfs-dwarf-one-burroughs/Kdammers (talk) 03:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of the huge number of employees that were laid off in the early noughties and class suite that went with it. That article looks as though it has been whitewashed. scope_creep^Talk 17:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Is it encyclopedic to refer to IBM employees as IBMers throughout the article? To an outsider this seems distracting and unnecessary, bordering on WP:PROMOTION, when the more straightforward "IBM employees" would do just fine. The article on Google for example doesn't use the term "Googlers" at all. Is there any MoS guideline we can turn to for this? Stonkaments (talk) 04:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Stonkaments A good observation. I'm not sure about a guideline, but I was surprised by a cursory search and the number of sources that refer to them as IMBers Troubadour34 (talk) 03:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I notice that, in the history section, no mention is made of anything notable that IBM was doing between the years of 1939 and 1945. I wonder why that is? 🤔 206.195.157.47 (talk) 16:23, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Because this page is astroturfed by IBM and no mention of their actions during the holocaust is allowed 50.39.108.1 (talk) 03:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

to Vt320 Guy_Harris Can you attach a current IBM logo (black and white colors) to the IBM article, if you can confirm that IBM changed the recommended colors of its logo to black and white?^[1]

ITjungle mentioned the new IBM logo in accompanying discussion of the newer IBM i logo in this article.^[2]

^[3] EWLwiki (talk) 02:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

This is a misunderstanding, there is no new IBM corporation logo. ITjungle used a hastily composed lineage logo collection, included the black-and white metric template as last version from the original page... As you can see in the official source ("8-Bar"), there is no change in recommended colors, blue and black is equally there: "The IBM core colors, consisting of the blue and gray families, are used when applying color specifically to the 8-bar logo." Madacs (talk) 09:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

I was looking to find some more information about the company Q1 labs, which was a cybersecurity company founded in Fredericton, New Brunswick. It redirected here, which makes sense as it was later bought out by IBM, but there’s no information on this page about Q1 labs. There’s definitely info out there - there’s a decent amount on the page for Brendan Hannigan, one of the founders - but I’m not sure where that should be aggregated 130.113.109.111 (talk) 04:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)