Talk:Imran Khan/Archive 4
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Preceded by!
Encyclopedic value of including “caretaker “ person in Care taker govt of Pakistan as preceded by person is questionable! In my opinion, preceded by should only list those who were part of an elected government. First of all caretakers are not elected but selected, plus their powers are limited in care taker govt. Adl786 (talk) 04:40, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Imran interview accepting that he used gambling money for PTI debt
Sir, Gogo Dodo; My write up was exactly as what he said in the cited utube interview and his book! Have you listened to the interview, maybe you don’t understand Urdu! If that’s the case please have someone in your team, who knows Urdu check it out. If you have any specific item not consistent with what he said, please advise.
Adl786 (talk) 06:17, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxb2_nN_QY#fauxfullscreen
Adl786 (talk) 06:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Hopefully instead of claiming validity of my write up within few minutes, you will listen to interviews & read his book and identify why you question credibility. Adl786 (talk) 06:35, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Khan has accepted that he taught his brother-in-law, Ben Goldsmith, how to perform spread betting in cricket. He taught Ben this technique with an agreement that if Ben wins, Ben will payoff debt of PTI. Ben won big and not only cleared his personal debt of £10,000 but also cleared debt of PTI in the amount of £20,000. He claimed that based on his knowledge of cricket, he can make millions. A important point is that he considers spread betting in cricket and buying/selling stocks in stock market as equivalent. [112] In his opinion, either both are gambling or neither. This opinion, is not consistent to predominant view of Islamic scholars and Pakistani laws.
Please highlight, what’s not verifiable? Adl786 (talk) 06:36, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Senior Editors @ Wiki, SherrifIsInTown, et. Al. Please review the above posted para, listen to the video interviews of Imran Khan, refer to his book and advise what needs to be edited to make it into Wiki His view about equivalency of spread betting & buying / selling stocks is impressive, since he is heading an state in forming laws.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxb2_nN_QY#
Adl786 (talk) 07:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Confusion
The Official website of Ministry of Interior shows Muhammad Azam Khan as Minister while other sources shows Imran Khan. What is right?— Bukhari (Talk!) 10:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- He was caretaker, they just did not update the website! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 10:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @SheriffIsInTown:, What is the difference between Minister for Interior and Minister of State for Interior. Are they same? — Bukhari (Talk!) 09:57, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- @BukhariSaeed: A Minister of State is a junior minister who works under the federal minister, if these is one. --Saqib (talk) 10:01, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- @SheriffIsInTown:, What is the difference between Minister for Interior and Minister of State for Interior. Are they same? — Bukhari (Talk!) 09:57, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
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From a sports icon to Beacon of national revival: An invincible Imran Khan
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Note: Copyvio redacted ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) Mian4034 (talk) 18:09, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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- ElHef I have corrected the template to point to the correct diff. Thank you for reporting it and I have corrected it. --All the best, TheSandDoctor Talk 04:46, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Image?
Looks like the previous image was removed from the infobox due to unclear copyright. Can someone add an acceptable image there from Commons? One of the most viewed articles should surely have an identifiable ib image. Was a bit confused when I landed here as there was no photo. Gotitbro (talk) 07:14, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Yes please at least official portrait Khurram khan786 (talk) 22:52, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
It's an official government portrait, you don't need permission to use it so why keep reverting my edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackwatson39340301 (talk • contribs)
Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2018
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103.59.179.34 (talk) 03:20, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Change the picture to official potrait.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CHANGE THE profile image of the article to the official portrait of prime minister, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorinchief21 (talk • contribs) 12:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Editorinchief21, is the official portrait suitable for here or is it under copyright? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 23:08, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's suitable since it's in public domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackwatson39340301 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Do you have any proof or evidence? The specific file that you included has no license. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 23:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's suitable since it's in public domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackwatson39340301 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2019
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I SUBMIT THAT THE FIRST PARAGRAPH UNDER ‘CAPTAINCY’ BE AMEMNDED TO READ AS FOLLOWS
At the height of his career, in 1982, the thirty-year-old Khan took over the captaincy of the Pakistan cricket team from Javed Miandad.[54] As a captain, Khan played 48 Test matches, out of which 14 were won by Pakistan, 8 lost and the rest of 26 were drawn. Reputed to be one of the greatest captains in the history of the game, Khan led Pakistan to some of most remarkable test series victories in the country’s history. His performance as a player, while being the captain of the national test side, remains un paralleled in the history of the game. In 48 test matches, he scored 2408 runs at an average of 52.34 and claimed 187 wickets at the cost 20.26 runs per wicket. He also played 139 ODIs, winning 77, losing 57 and ending one in a tie.[19] Herry Becker (talk) 22:08, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Absolutely not, as that would fly right against the neutral point of view policy. Breaking sticks (talk) 23:38, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Then add this "In 48 test matches, he scored 2408 runs at an average of 52.34 and claimed 187 wickets at the cost 20.26 runs per wicket." It is indisputably factual, without any opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herry Becker (talk • contribs) 16:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Ministries
@SheriffIsInTown: @Saqib: I seriously doubt we should be listing ministries in the infobox. The ministries of interior, communications and power are/were his by virtue because there are no federal ministers responsible for those ministries. Just like for Nawaz Sharif (who was foreign minister by virtue) I don’t think we should include seperate ministries in his infobox. маsтегрнатаLк 21:45, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, only the most prominent position for the tenure should be listed! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sure. By the way, Power portfolio is under Omar Ayub Khan, not Khan. --Saqib (talk) 05:47, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Interesting history of his people. The Aryan Pakhtuns were converted to Semitic Islam. Later on out of respect of the Buddhist Halaku Khan (mongols captured region of Central Asia) these people took the Mongol title of Khan. Imran is also fond of the Jews. Though in a subtle manner
Hosting of Saudi Prince (and allegations from both India and Iran of Pakistani support for large bombings)
February 2019 saw two large "terror" explosions purportedly supported by Pakistan , one in Iran and one in India, in the week and days preceding the "official" (non-state) visit of Saudi Arabia`s notorious MbS. The visit brought promises and claims of over USD 20 Billions in trade benefits to Pakistan, a noteable event indeed. PM Khan appeared on television as a distinguished and gracious host.126.243.85.139 (talk) 16:36, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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Following the attacks, Imran Khan stated that Pakistan had no involvement, and that if Pakistan was attacked then there would certainly be a retaliation.Contribitions/Badsaad10 (talk)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 16:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
official portrait
Does anyone know why the official portrait is not available anywhere on Wikipedia or Wikimedia? Is it the same case like with Bolsonaro's portrait, that it's copyrighted? 78.108.56.35 (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Noble Peace Prize
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Þjarkur (talk) 15:51, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Term
Re: Political Ideology section and Saudi Arabia
| “ | Khan might not be able to stick to his previous stance, as Saudi loans and investment are crucial amid the precarious state of Pakistan's economy.[103] | ” |
While this is a well-sourced claim, I think it falls under WP:SPECULATION (not WP:NOTABILITY as I accidentally stated in my edit summary). That being said, I also think the information it provides has encyclopedic value: If it could be substituted for information about specific, actual events, that would be ideal. Unfortunately, I'm not the person to do it. --HamartiaProsciuttoPharos (talk) 00:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- I think you misinterpret WP:CRYSTAL. We are permitted to have reliable sources make predictions. The source clearly states that "Saudi loans and investment are crucial amid the precarious state of Pakistan’s economy," as well as quoting that "Rafiq describes Pakistan as being 'on thin ice,' and the Saudi-backed loan [is] essential.'" This evaluation seems well-sourced and worthy of inclusion, in my view. El_C 02:28, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- You make a reasonable argument; I trust that if others take issue with the content, they'll revive this discussion with their own input. Until then, I'm happy to let it be. --HamartiaProsciuttoPharos (talk) 04:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2019
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I want to change this page's profile picture with better one. 91.73.72.131 (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
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Controversies
Remove all the controversies because these are baseless and accusations of the people who is trying to destroying the image of a person just for the money which is given by opposition and wanted to come into the limelight. Muneebjaved71 (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Not done. Please establish a consensus for this change on the talk page before making such a request. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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Imran Khan is Muhajir
Imran Khan is also Muhajir from his maternal family youtube.com/dGZGM0CZSYU, please Muhajir people's category also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.32.197 (talk) 03:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Signature
I am wondering what's the source of the signature present in the Infobox. It looks quite different from the one in this official document. Bigfoot Yeti (talk) 17:33, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Minor edit in the controversy section required
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Link the Mianwali, an area in Mianwali district Amr2jm (talk) 16:16, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Not done. I saw multiple links for Mianwali and variants already in the article. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:35, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
April 2020
Hi, I reverted your (edit) manually. If you removed cited content once again, it will be undone without being reverted manually. You are requested to explain the reason for removing cited content on the article Imran Khan. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- @TheBirdsShedTears: You are using a 8 years old source and a 9 year old source(about his book) to claim "popularity" and that is grossly non-neutral, as well as WP:UNDUE. Your other edit is also violating WP:NPOV and looks irrelevant because you are giving undue weight to a politician (see WP:SOAPBOX) and discussing about a different topic, about a pilot's release, but not his reaction to the terrorist attack. You should revert both of your edits. Mohanabhil (talk) 17:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
As far as WP:V is concerned, it is discouraged to remove cited content. Editors can improve existing article or part of a page (section) rather than removing. Your (this edit) looks puffery as per the sources you added. Imran Khan has been criticized for claiming he has "no knowledge": In fact, it shouldn't be written like this. "Not much knowledge" is the correct phrase as per sources. Furthermore, i didn't see "he has been criticized" in any of the reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- That is your disbelief that content only needs to meet WP:V for inclusion. That is wrong. You can remove blatant WP:UNDUE and WP:POV, and that is what I was doing. WSJ source calls him "deeply hypocritical", how that is not criticism in your book? You need to understand that "puffery" means "exaggerated or false praise". Mohanabhil (talk) 18:07, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- You didn't understand me. The content you added only focuses on his criticism rather than making a neutral contribution. You have not mentioned "Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has since accused the Indian government of ethnic cleansing of the Muslim-majority region." (relevant to your edits and also mentioned in sources you added "puffery"). I don't think you are trying to stay a neutral editor. If editors do not add "what their native politicians have done with minorities", it is same as whitewashing their politics. What is left to add on Wikipedia? only growing praise for their native politicians and criticism for neighboring countries? See WP:NPOV, WP:CRIT and WP:CRV TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- What Narendra Modi does has nothing to do with this page, because this page is not to be used as a WP:SOAPBOX for Imran Khan. It would be "puffery" only if I add something overly positive and never saw that happening in my history of editing. I have removed the disputed content now because either way, all of them sounds WP:UNDUE. Mohanabhil (talk) 16:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Bin Laden remark
I have warned the concerned editor for this clearly vandal edit . Subsequent edits are just watering down his comment on Bin Laden. We shouldn't include paragraphs of justifications made by Khan's spokemen to give a false sense of balance (WP:VALID). An RfC may be in order if concerned editors disagree. - Harsh 19:28, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- It seems relevant to me to report that Khan's spokesman backpedaled from Khan's comment; if a second WP:RS besides VOA reports on it, I'll come to back argue for re-insertion. As for the BBC analysis, if other editors don't find it relevant, I'm fine with its exclusion. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 04:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- The controversy is regarding his use of the word martyr. His spokesman saying that he also used the word killed a few times, is not the controversy. Regarding the media analysis, which goes on a tangent to make theories as to why he called Osama a martyr; was he afraid of his military; is all speculation, not deserving any mention on an article about him. - Harsh 04:58, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- hello indian hindu! plz keep your indian propaganda in check! khan never called OBL a martyr in a deliberate purposeful statement! 119.155.20.119 (talk) 12:16, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- hello indian hindu! plz keep your indian propaganda in check! khan never called OBL a martyr in a deliberate purposeful statement! 119.155.20.119 (talk) 12:16, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- The controversy is regarding his use of the word martyr. His spokesman saying that he also used the word killed a few times, is not the controversy. Regarding the media analysis, which goes on a tangent to make theories as to why he called Osama a martyr; was he afraid of his military; is all speculation, not deserving any mention on an article about him. - Harsh 04:58, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Media censorship
Khan is being heavily criticised for media censorship in Pakistan. Worth mentioning in the article?
Misleadingly attributed relationship
Jerry hall. Further names from this section should be removed and reviewed. Proper and authoritative sources BADLY IN NEED. Stephenfryfan (talk) 17:18, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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Use this image from his Twitter: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1162267138842755075/zxLifsgg_400x400.jpg 119.160.69.91 (talk) 15:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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