Talk:Indianapolis/Archive 2

According to NOAA, the mean January temperature is 26.5ºF, ^[1] which, according to the traditional Köppen system places Indy right on the border between Cfa and Dfa. When the 1981-2010 averages replace the very cold Januaries of the late '70s with the much milder ones of the 2000s (especially 2006), the mean will increase to at least 28ºF, making Indy solidly Cfa according to the traditional classification. ^[2]

Which Köppen system does wikipedia prefer, the traditional one where D climates begin at 26.6ºF, or the modified one which raises the cutoff to 32ºF?

Mcvey68 (talk) 04:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

The current standard of 32F. The boundary for that pretty much runs the Ohio River. CrazyC83 (talk) 00:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Registered trademark of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway itself, and the title is emblazoned on its Hall of Fame Museum. Indianapolis as a city would only be called that by association, not from technical accuracy. --Chr.K. (talk) 22:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Also note that the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is not in Indianapolis. —Random832 17:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but how many people go to the Speedway Indiana 500 every year? None. They go to the INDY 500. Still, good points~.Apwall21 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

IMS is, in fact, located in Indianapolis. Speedway is a township portion of the Indianapolis Metropolitan Area, not a city in and of itself. Need proof? Just look at the address of the track itself: 4790 West 16th Street, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46222. --Kp.murphy (talk) 15:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

An editor added this sentence to the entry at about the same time he added it to Oklahoma City . I'm not sure I'd consider this case to be "sharing"—it's not quite New York, New York, after all—but I get the point. What do others think about the statement? Is it accurate? Is it encyclopedic? Shall we keep/delete/edit it? GreenGourd (talk) 03:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I am not going to check for accuracy, that is the job of the person that added it. I feel it has no encyclopedic value. Seeing as you and I are the only 2 people that have taken the time to look at it and express out opinions since May 2009 I am going to remove it.Naipicnirp (talk) 23:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Someone put a tag saying the article is too long. It is 84kb and very long to scroll. Any objections to trying to tighten the writing and slightly shortening the article? User F203 (talk) 15:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

The history has a sub article, condensing that should reduce size by 7k or so. "Law and government" and "Cultural features" would be good targets for sub-articles as well. Moving them to sub-articles and condensing their present version on this article would probably allow another reduction of 25k. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 15:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

It is absurdly long as it sits now. Naipicnirp (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

This is not absurdly long. In terms of readable prose, it is 48kb, which is large, but not absurd for a major city. There are already many subarticles. The article is in very poor shape, though, and I hope to work on it for the WP:Wikicup, but it is not absurdly long. Reywas92^Talk 00:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Reposting for discussion.

"The current title is too grab bag. There is no logical reason that organizations and festivals should be in the same place, unless these organizations are hosting these events. Again, I protest the use of Ethnic (too easy to offend and too hard to define) and add a protest of the use Cultural. It's all cultural. That's the title of section 7, so why repeat ourselves? Perhaps we could subsection this list into:

Conventions - Obviously Conventions are Conventions. Black Expo, GenCon, etc. Events - Those events centered for-profit in foundation as well as those events centered on a singular event such as the 500Festival and Circle City Classic. Festivals - Festival would be anything that was not centered around a single event, such as the Greek Fest etc. As for Organizations, this becomes hairy. Many organizations, though not claiming political affiliation, are political in nature. Many organizations, though not operating as businesses, are just as interested in maintaining income as many businesses. We should talk on this further..." Apwall21 (talk) 00:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)Apwall21 (talk) 04:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me, you seem to know what to do so by all means tackle that task. Organizations could always have a sub section in Companies maybe? HoosierState^Talk 05:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and organized the sections into Conventions, Organizations, and Festivals and Events. Likewise, I got rid of Cultural Events and the Athenaeum picture that went with it. Now, Festivals and Events are really the same thing, as long as something revolved around one singular idea I put it there. I put all organizations and businesses already included in the Organizations category. I also put items in Conventions if it was specifically specified as a convention before I changed it. If you feel like something needs changing, go ahead and do it. And I am always welcome to help out. Jman 01:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

At first glance, there are no problems with the sections, "Recreation", "Cultural Features", and "Local Media". However, they are poorly defined and certain, if not many, of their subsections belong in both. These problems make it more difficult than it should to navigate the page.

I propose combining them into one section. Perhaps "cultural aspects", or something along that line. The three all really do have to do with culture in some way. Perhaps you could have "cultural aspects" as the main section, put "local media", and "recreation" as subsections of it, and then move sub sections and sub-subsections into one the appropriate places, either based on consensus or simply by if it needs to be moved or not.

If you read this please reply, there needs to be an agreement about this issue. Jherbertz (talk) 16:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Does not belong in the same sentence with Fortune 500 companies Are all of the companies listed Fortune 500? If not, perhaps we could have some balance in removal of other non-Fortune 500 companies. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

The following companies are listed but not part of the Fortune 500

• Brightpoint
• Republic Airways Holdings
  • Chautauqua Airlines
  • Republic Airlines
  • Frontier Airlines
  • Shuttle America
• REIT
• Simon Property Group
• Finish Line, Inc.
• Roche Diagnostics
• Technicolor SA
• First Internet Bank of Indiana
• Peerless Pump Company
• Emmis Communications
• Steak 'n Shake
• Clarian Health
• Sallie Mae
• Cook Group
• Rolls Royce
• Delta Faucet Company

In light of the new ad-hoc criteria for inclusion as stated by both Detcin and Lord Pistachio, vis: "doesn't belong in the same sentence with Fortune 500 companies", I will be removing said companies unless another rationale can be provided. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:03, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'd agree that it isn't limited to just Fortune 500 companies. However, the companies mentioned in the article need to be significant to Indianapolis for such factors as revenue, number of employees or headquarters in the Indianapolis area, former status as a well known company that has been absorbed by a larger firm, etc. The Nussli Group meets none of those sorts of criteria with regard to Indianapolis (regardless of its significance elsewhere). As proof of this, a search of the Indianapolis Star archives returns no hits at all for Nussli Group, and even the Nussli Group website shows the only thing it's done in Indianapolis is to build temporary stands seating 22,000 for the IMS in 2007.Indyguy (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Will simply remove Peerless since it doesn't have an article as it's just a line of Delta and that is listed. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Indianapolis needs a montage showcasing areas like the Conseco Fieldhouse, Lucas Oil Stadium, The Indiana Statehouse, The Soldiers and Sailors Monument and the General Downtown Skyline. Other similar-sized cities, like Jacksonville, Florida have montages fot their infobox pictures and its high time Indy had one too. Rhatsa26X (talk) 04:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree completely. Any of the top 20 largest cities should have a montage. I beleive this page used to have one actually. Anyone know what happened to it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.141.181.3 (talk) 04:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

A point should be made that the Governor's Mansion in the circle was never really the Governor's Mansion. In fact, it was under construction when the Governor (some say the Governor's wife) decided they weren't going to live there. It apparently sent vacant for a long time before becoming (if I remember hearing correctly) Town Hall and HQ for one of the fire companies. Prior to its construction, the circle was used as a meetings commmons. I am not posting this as an actual update, because I don't have any source citations. I just remember that info from an Indy history book I read. 24.123.26.124 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC).

A recurring line from the song "Sour Suite" by the well-known Canadian band The Guess Who. Varlaam (talk) 22:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

There should be a brief historical mention in the demographics section that the city of Indianapolis and Marion County consolidated to form one city government in 1970. This would explain why it appears Indianapolis's population jumped 56% during the 1960s. To put the consolidation into perspective, if Baltimore City and Baltimore County ever consolidated, the city of Baltimore's population would swell to 1,450,000, surpassing Philadelphia.--MarioSmario (talk) 02:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

An "In Popular Culture" section for a major city? I think I've seen it all...--Chimino (talk) 13:48, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

• Congratulations. That's quite an achievement. City boy77 (talk) 07:51, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

• I've added the In popular culture template to the section. Most of the items in this section have no references and are just random bits of trivia. I'll wait a few days before doing some drastic pruning. --Indyguy (talk) 16:53, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, no one has commented further on this, so I've removed the entire section since it really is nothing more than a list of trivia. The last version with the Indianapolis in Popular Media section is here. If a good source could be found, the information about David Letterman could be added to his article (if it's not already there). Movies about the 500 would be better placed in the Indianapolis 500 article itself. And the importance of basketball in Indiana culture is also significant, but probably more pertinent to the Indiana article. Indyguy (talk) 04:07, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, I think it time to revisit the Naptown debate. I feel personally that it is a commonly used nickname nowadays. My understanding is that the nickname came about in the early 1900's because the city was so boring you could take a nap there. I also understand that the dominance of the KKK in the 20's caused the name to take a derogatory turn. But that only lasted until the 50's or 60's when the name became disused until revived in the 90's. Additionally, SO WHAT if rap songs make heavy use of the name? Is the definition of nickname 'An alternate name that all people agree to use.'???? Even if it is/was derogatory, it is still a nickname for Indianapolis.

Here are some current modern uses that clearly indicate the name is alive and is not being used in a derogatory manner.

• Sports

• Roller Derby Team Naptown Roller Girls
• Colt's fan blog Naptown's Finest
• Gridiron Developmental Football League team Naptown Scorpions

• Social

  Lindy Stomp and vintage swing dance society Naptown Stomp

• Indianapolis reggae fan group Naptown Reggae
• Model railroaders Naptown & White River Model Railroad Club
• Local events blog Naptown Buzz
• Musical group Naptown Boogie
• Photo blogger Naptown Argus
• Local blogger Naptown Observer (Not updated since 2009 - Marked 'closed')
• Jazz group that caters to children Naptown Jazz 5

• Business

• Naptown Etching
• Indianapolis bulldog breeder Naptown Bullies
• T-Shirt sales Naptown Tees
• Restaurant Naptown Restaurant & Wine Bar (Closed May 2010)
• Posterous has Naptown Job Swap

• Other Usage

• Author Caitlin Devitt writes article titled Shot in the arm for 'Naptown' for The Bond Buyer 26-Jan-2011

OK, so I'm going to stop here. But seriously, it is not a RARE nickname. It is not a BAD nickname... BUT IT IS A NICKNAME! 24.123.26.124 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC).

This is interesting to me, as I was born in Indianapolis, went to IUPUI, and lived there on the east side of the city for 22 years. I have never heard of "naptown," but you have made quite a convincing argument that others have. -- Masamunecyrus^(talk)_(contribs) 03:50, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

As far as nicknames go, Naptown is probably one of the more positive nicknames I've heard. If you really want to go for derrogatory, try some of the nicknames I frequently hear. They include Idiotnapolis, Moronnapolis, and Stupidopolis. Kinda makes naptown seem less derrogatory by comparason, don't you think. 17:40, 25 August 2011 (CDT)Rhatsa26X (talk)

I just did a Google search on "naptown nickname indianapolis" (without the quotes) and got about 139,000 results. I don't see how one can deny that "Naptown" is a nickname for Indianapolis. Perhaps a lot of people have never heard it (all the more reason to include it). Perhaps it is felt by many people as derogatory - although the Wikipedia article on Annapolis, Maryland mentions it with no indication of being negative - it is any more negative than "Chi" (or "Chitown") for Chicago or "The Peg" for "Winnipeg" - anyway, if it is negative, so be it, we aren't supposed to be boosters, are we? Let's remove this ban on mentioning "Naptown". It is a nickname, and even if it is a rare nickname or a bad nickname, it is a nickname. TomS TDotO (talk) 18:13, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I notice that the entry "Naptown" has a redirect to Indianapolis. (BTW, shouldn't that be changed to be a disambiguation page, with Annapolis also being mentioned?) Meanwhile, nobody seems to be defending the ban on mentioning the nickname in the article on Indianapolis. TomS TDotO (talk) 15:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

If further verification as to the status of "Naptown" as a legitimate nickname for Indianapolis is necessary, The Indianapolis Star posted what may be the definitive chronology of the term . The term has a long history and is widely recognized in the local culture—as has been expounded above—and has, in the wake of Super Bowl XLVI, been recognized by several major media outlets . If no counterarguments surface soon (especially given that a decent window of time in which to present such an argument has already passed), I feel the most reasonable course of action is to include "Naptown" among Indianapolis's "Nicknames". Scisdahl (talk) 07:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Given that no opposing opinions have materialized since this discussion began in May of last year, I think it's safe to say we've established a new consensus. I'm adding "Naptown" to the list. scisdahl (t•c) 23:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Regardless as to the feelings that one may experience in the use of this nickname, the document, in it's current form, lacks support for its use. The other nicknames cited within the document are supported by additional references. The only use of "naptown" uses within this document are the "nickname(s) section" and a link to the "Naptown Roller Girls", a team that happens to reside within the city of Indianapolis. The Naptown Roller Girls page makes no reference to the nickname or it's history. This alone is insufficient support for use of the nickname within the document. I would suggest that the reference either be removed from use, due to lack of support within the document, or additional sources be add for it's support and clarification. Lomor_wp (talk) 12:11, 17 December 2013 (EST)

• Would putting the real population in the lead be OK, or is simple arithmetic addition considered original research now? —Random832 19:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

• Also!!! the folowing statement:

"As of the 2010 United States Census, the city's population is 829,718.[1] It is Indiana's largest city and, as of the 2010 U.S. Census, is the 12th largest city in the U.S., the second largest city in the Midwest (behind Chicago), the second most populous state capital (after Phoenix, Arizona), and the most populous state capital east of the Mississippi River"

Have we forgotten Atlanta? it is bigger than Phoenix AND Indianapolis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsgladden (talk • contribs) 21:42, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

• No, we haven't forgotten Atlanta. The city of Atlanta's population is 420,003 according to the 2010 census. The city of Indianapolis has a population of over 830,000 and the city of Phoenix has a population of over 1.4 million. City boy77 (talk) 07:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I think it's very disingenuous to say that Indianapolis is bigger than Atlanta. You should use Metropolitan or Urban Populations when considering city size, not simply municipal populations. In the United States, most population centers are made up of several municipalities, particularly older, denser cities. If you use urban populations, Boston, Atlanta, Denver, St. Paul, Phoenix and Sacramento are all larger capital cities than Indianapolis. If you used Metropolitan populations, Austin and Columbus are also bigger capitals than Indianapolis. - Ntyler01mil —Preceding undated comment added 16:42, 18 April 2012 (UTC).

All other municipal articles use the population inside the actual city limits when referring to the city population. There is quite a difference between a city and a metropolitan area, as metropolitan areas cover huge areas of land and can even encompass many large cities. If we started using metro populations where would one city end and another begin? Extermino (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

• Marion County (the county in which Indianapolis is located) has a population of 903,393 (2010 U.S. Census Reference). The Indianapolis metropolitan area has a population of 1,887,877 (2010 U.S. Census reference). The City of Indianapolis has a population of 829,718 (2010 U.S. Census Reference). There is no other population for the City of Indianapolis. Other cities, such as Atlanta and Saint Louis, have smaller city populations but larger metropolitan populations because those cities are independent from the outlying communities. In Marion County, most of the former outlying communities became part of the City of Indianapolis over 40 years ago. They are no longer separate entities. City boy77 (talk) 03:12, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

There is a demonym listed for people from Indianapolis: Indypolitan, or Indianapolitan. This was added way back in 2009 and still sticks. Has anyone ever heard of this demonym? I've never heard of it outside of a comment on The Urbanophile in 2011. Google searches don't bring up many promising results showing it either to be an official or even an accepted demonym of the city's inhabitants. To my knowledge, there is no demonym for someone from Indianapolis--only Hoosiers, from Indiana. -- Masamunecyrus^(talk)_(contribs) 06:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

"Indianapolitan" is listed in the premium unabridged version of Merriam-Webster's dictionary. So it seems to be "correct", but I agree it is very rarely used. Brian the Editor (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

• 820,445 population in the City of Indianapolis (balance) on April 1, 2010 Census.
• 827,609 population in the City of Indianapolis (balance) on July 1, 2011 Estimate. this one

• 829,718 population in the City of Indianapolis on April 1, 2010 Census.
• 839,489 population in the City of Indianapolis on July 1, 2011 Estimate.

• 903,393 population in Marion County on April 1, 2010 Census.
• 911,296 population in Marion County on July 1, 2011 Estimate. this one

I am not sure different number of population about balance?

--Rossdegenstein (talk) 14:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

While the majority of Marion County is considered Indianapolis, some parts remain independent and are included in the county's population but not the city's. See Speedway, Indiana as an example. City boy77 (talk) 01:46, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh I understand and saw in Speedway, Indiana. Thank --Rossdegenstein (talk) 01:51, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I added an explanation in the "demographics" section. The city's population and the county's population are different. There are four communities that are independent of Indianapolis, but they are all in Marion County: Speedway, Lawrence, Beech Grove, and Southport. Rosalina523 (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I didn't edit this article yet, or any other article, but I think Hartford, Connecticut is actually closer to its state's geographical center (in the town of Berlin) than Indianapolis is to Indiana's geographic center (in Hendricks County.) Trenton, New Jersey, even though it is on the Pennsylvania-New Jersey state line, is also just a few miles from its state's geographical center. In all fairness, however, Connecticut and New Jersey are much smaller states than Indiana. 64.222.182.166 (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

While not necessary for an effective page - though, it'd be nice to have this in the page somewhere if anyone can find it - does anyone have any pre-consolidation maps showing the city limits of old Indy? Does anyone know the exact square mileage either of the census previous to the consolidation or even the square mileage of Indy upon the consolidation if any annexation had occured between the previous census and the consolidation? --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Anyone ever able to find a map of the city just prior to Unigov consolidation in 1970? --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, does no one who regularly update this page know the answer to this question? I've writte the historical societies and libraries and everything in the city and no one seems to know. This has to be public record. How many square miles did Indy measure immediately prior to its consolidation? --Criticalthinker (talk) 15:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

In the Annexation article in the Encyclopedia of Indianapolis, on page 262, it says that by the end of the 1960s Indianapolis had 82 square miles. I suspect it wasn't precisely 82, though. Indyguy (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@Criticalthinker:, @Indyguy: I've been uploading historic maps of Indianapolis to Commons as I have the time. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks to the both of you for replies. Someone more familiar with this page can figure out where this information should be added. It should definitely be added, though, to give the "true" size of urban Indy before the consolidation, though. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:24, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 12:49, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

While It's probably plain to see that it's more or less a legal exercise and a bit of a publicity stunt than an actual religion, I believe that the First Church of Cannabis, since it was heavily tied to the controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act (Indiana), and to the growing (no pun intended) legal marijuana movement, and made quite a stir in the media, ought to be mentioned somewhere in the page; at the very least, the religion section, unless someone can propose a better spot.

I had an entry, but it was removed, and I was asked to take it here. Janulus144 (talk) 02:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

For one thing, you gave too much space to this church, and without mentioning anything about number of adherents, in a section that is about religious demographics. Dhtwiki (talk) 08:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

For another, there is nothing to indicate this is anything more than a publicity stunt. Wikipedia is not for promotion of anything. We are also not a newspaper. This does not belong in an encyclopedia at this time. If it turns out to be more than it seems now a year or so down the line, that of course can be reconsidered. John from Idegon (talk) 09:29, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Currently the lede contains a sentence about Indianapolitan being the city's demonym, but attempts have been made to remove it. Looking at some other city articles, it appears that there is no standard as to whether the demonym is included in the lede or even (e.g., Fort Worth, Texas) in the infobox. Given that Indianapolitan is hardly ever used, I think we can omit it from the lede as not being of sufficient importance. Indyguy (talk) 04:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree. Demonym's are similar to nicknames: if they are notable they can be included in the lead, but this one clearly is not. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm with you guys. It seems to be an archaic term anyway; I've been trying to find a better source for it than the dictionary that is currently referenced, but most of what I find that uses it is from before the 1920s. See, for example Gray, Ralph (1994). Indiana History: A Book of Readings. Indiana University Press. p. 195. ISBN 9780253326294. Retrieved 1 September 2015., the essay in question was published in 1912 and uses Indianapolitan when discussing financial crashes that occurred in the 1870s and 1890s. Also, Beste, J (1855). The Wabash; or, Adventures of an English Gentleman's Family in the Interior of America. Carlisle, Massachusetts: Applewood Boks. ISBN 9781429003209. {{cite book}}: ISBN / Date incompatibility (help) uses the term. There seem to be a few more recent uses; but most of them seem to be trying to sound pompous and archaic. It might be worth a mention in the history section, but not the lede. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:52, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I can't remember ever hearing "Indianapolitan" said, as I've heard "New Yorker" or "Chicagoan". I guess that some cities' demonyms are just too much of a mouthful to be useful. So, leave out of the lead. I see that it's in the infobox. Does it get used at all? Dhtwiki (talk) 00:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Indianapolis is a great city and its chamber of commerce is one of top 50 in the country. This article could reflect this information with a lengthy section on the Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce, including a history of its board membership, biographies on each person, "1-800" telephone numbers, and short sections on the businesses in which each member is engaged. 2602:252:D6A:B2C0:1511:2FF5:3FB4:3FA0 (talk) 13:28, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Ladies and Gentlemen, there's no "Music" component to the "Culture" section, and especially no "Jazz" section. The city was a regular stop for touring jazz musicians, and there was a strong, to say the least of it, local scene. It produced J.J. Johnson and Wes Montgomery. Will someone familiar with the jazz scene in Indianapolis Please rectify this? Tapered (talk) 04:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Also, I understand that many vaudeville and rock acts have offered performances in Indianappleist. This article should certainly list these concerts.

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Links #3, 7-9, 12 lead to error pages. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:29, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

A nicely sourced sentence was recently added to the beginning of the paragraph that talks about the various neighborhoods in the city. However, as the source states, these neighborhoods do not necessarily correspond to actual neighborhoods as the public knows them. In particular, they don't correspond to the neighborhoods talked about in the rest of the paragraph. That there are 99 neighborhoods that the city uses for statistical purposes is interesting, but I'm not sure it belongs in the article. Indyguy (talk) 03:45, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't know what metric exactly was used to come up with the little factoid in paragraph 2 that says Indianapolis has more interstate highways intersecting it than any other city, but I can't see how that's correct. It has 4 -- 65, 69, 70, and 74. Chicago has 55, 57, 90, and 94 within the city limits and 65, 80, and 88 in the metro area. St. Louis has 44, 55, 64, and 70 in the city limits. Birmingham has 20, 22, 59, and 65 within the city limits. At best Indianapolis is tied with several other cities, and that's only if you don't include the metro region. Of the two sources cited, the one that works cites a link that has been taken down so there's no way to verify what exactly is being claimed. Betterusername (talk) 16:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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10 Counties are on Central Time Zone Now to match Chicago -- this happened years ago, so it's time to update. No I'm not gonna mess with it, I've no idea how to add that into a table and have little interest in learning right now. Jhrussell401 (talk) 06:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

But this article is about Indianapolis, which is in the Eastern Time Zone, as are all the counties in its metropolitan area. Did you think this is the Indiana article? Indyguy (talk) 12:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect INpolis (city), Marion County, IN. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 31#INpolis (city), Marion County, IN until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 20:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

The lede mentions that "the consolidated population of Indianapolis and Marion County in 2020 was 977,642." This is the total population of Marion County, which includes Indianapolis, Beech Grove, Lawrence, Southport, and Speedway. Indianapolis alone is 897,041.^[1] --Lasunncty (talk) 05:33, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

The age breakdown adds up to about 60% in Demographics, and the 21-65 age group is almost certainly wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndyDanno (talk • contribs) 17:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: for consistencies sake, I agree with Curacaoache's edits. Since there is no preference in MOS:PEOPLANG, consistency is the best policy, and the demographics section currently uses a capital-B. I don't see any reason to change those to lowercase and plenty of reasons not to, so I believe it makes sense to align all uses in the article to a capital-B. --Cerebral726 (talk) 19:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cerebral726: Did you read the policy? "The capitalized form will be more appropriate in the company of other upper-case terms of this sort", but the edits they made were to the history section, not to the demographic section. Moreover, MOS:VAR ruled "When either of two styles are acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change." There are other policies on Wikipedia that also support this. Curacaoache is a student editor, and it would be inappropriate to teach them from the start that making pointless cosmetic changes in any way improves Wikipedia. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes I did read the policy, which is why I mentioned that it has no preference towards capitalization or not. My argument is based on the fact that the current state of the article is internally inconsistent. Even if the occurrences are in separate section, I think being consistent across the entirety of the article (per the lede of the MoS which states "Where more than one style or format is acceptable under MoS, one should be used consistently within an article and should not be changed without good reason" [emphasis my own]) is the best course of action. I do not think the status of Curacaoache as a student editor is relevant to the policy argument I am trying to make, nor should a decision be made on what is the best lesson for them to learn. If they make cosmetic only changes in, it would definitely be wise to warn them against this behavior. However, regardless of the reason they chose to make the edits they did, I believe it improved the article and made it more inline with policy. --Cerebral726 (talk) 21:09, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

The article currently reads "Homicides hit a spike in 1998 when the city reached 162 murders. Murders drastically decreased in the following years but spiked again in 2006 with 153 murders. Until 2019, annual criminal homicide numbers had grown each year since 2011, reaching record highs from 2015 to 2018. With 144 criminal homicides, 2015 surpassed 1998 as the year with the most murder investigations in the city. With 159 criminal homicides, 2018 stands as the most violent year on record in the city" (emphasis added). Assuming that the undefined phrase "most violent" is referring to people being maliciously killed, it would appear that the article contradicts itself. Or is there a difference between "murders" and "criminal homicides"? To me, as a lay person, these are synonyms. Can some-one in the know clear this up? 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F93C:2133:1B30:546E (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)