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'The origins of the Internet date back to research commissioned by the United States government in the 1960s to build robust, fault-tolerant communication via computer networks' needs to be changed to: The origins of the Internet date back to research commissioned by the United States government and the government of the United Kingdom in the 1960s to build robust, fault-tolerant communication via computer networks. I have the required citations from the NPL, The Guardian and The InterNet Hall of Fame which categorically show that both the US and the UK were independently working on, 'robust, fault-tolerant communication via computer networks' and that while British pioneers helped develop Arpanet the same was not true at NPL. Also, don't forget that the first digital local network in the world to use packet switching and high-speed links was at the NPL campus. I'll wait a week for any objections before updating the article. regards.Twobells^t@lk 20:25, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

NO. You must not conflate the development of packet switching, which is only one aspect of the project, with the development of the Internet. Similar efforts were ongoing in France as well, and both countries were already credited with such work in the lede, and I find that placement already almost too much detail for a summary. The ARPANET was a DOD project and the only places where researchers reported to was Washington, not London, or anywhere. This has nothing to do with ignoring Davies' work, or Pouzin's for that matter. They can certainly be credited in the body for their parts, if not already, but their home-base research networks have nothing to do with the ARPANET. Kbrose (talk) 01:29, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

With respect, I do not see a problem, Davies work was the very basis to ArpaNet, American scientists directly involved confirm that and he should be credited along with Roger Scantlebury and Peter Wilkingson, I have the Guardian and NPL sources that categorically show that their work led to the creation of ARPANET. Also, The origins of the Internet date back to research commissioned by the United States government in the 1960s to build robust, fault-tolerant communication via computer networks, the Internet dates back to the work done by France, the UK and US (listed alphabetically) editors have no right to claim that America invented the net. If you want, I am happy to get an rfc on the issue but the sources "Packets of data were the key...". NPL. Retrieved 1 August 2015. Scantlebury, Roger; Wilkinson, Peter (25 June 2013). "Internet pioneers airbrushed from history". The Guardian. Retrieved 1 August 2015. (two among many) speak for themselves, regards. Twobells^t@lk 11:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Early research efforts belong in the body of the article, not in the lede. The body has indeed a section where precursor work is outlined. Like in any large research project ideas get assimilated from many sources, but this does not constitute the claim being made. Researchers have always communicated internationally. Packet switching was not just NPL's achievement, Baran did the identical work earlier actually, before Davies, in the US, and it too was funded by the DoD. Yes, Davies created the name packet switching and was the first to widely recognized for the concepts, and the article does that already, but in the end, it was the DARPA project leadership and funding that is to be credited solely for creation of the Internet through the late 80s. If there were any credible collaboration to incorporate the concept into DARPA code, the networks would have been interconnected at an early state, but they weren't because the DARPA folks created their own implementation and protocols were completely different and non-interoperable. It is easy to claim credit decades later, especially with "marketing" references that you are using, which seem to have a sort of activist flavor, but it just wasn't so. Everyone knows about Davies' work, and he is amply cited for that, but if you really want to be true to sources, then you should also mention that Davies himself credited Baran for the most relevant previous work. Yours are not reliable references for the claim. Kbrose (talk) 13:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Davis did co-invent packet switching, but you and your cited article perhaps give a bit too much credit to packet switching as the sole basis of the Internet. It certainly is a fundamental technology, but not anymore so than DNS or the TCP/IP protocol suite which Davies had nothing to do with. Also, the article doesn't even mention the work of Paul Baran, which is ironic given that it is an article about people's contributions allegedly being ignored. Baran actually invented it a few years before Davies. While Davies coined the term 'packet switching' and was an important figure in developing the first packet switched networks, he was not the first person to explore the concept, and the people at ARPANET were already aware of Baran's work. There were certainly other technologies and computer networks that laid the groundwork for ARPANET, but ARPANET was the first network to implement TCP/IP - the fundamental communications technology of the Internet, and marry it with packet switching which is basically what created the Internet. ARPANET was the first node of the Internet and is the network that the global Internet grew out of, so it is a bit right to say that it did originate in the US. We don't say that Douglas Engelbart invented the World Wide Web because he created hypertext. Chrono85 (talk) 19:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Editors tend to get hung up on ArpaNet, suggesting that was the origin point of the internet, it wasn't, Arpanet was purely cosmetic, the actual tech behind it, packet switching had been carried out the previous October based on Donald Davies work. ^[1] Subsequently, the internet was a result of independent, international contributions, the history of the internet articles state so, the various bodies that worked on the technology in the 1960's say so, the research and source material says so, so with the deepest respect please can we get some conformity across the articles rather than what we have which is a frankly jingoistic approach to a serious subject? Regards. Twobells (talk) 10:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

The ARPANET is the correct entity to get hung up about when it comes to Internet history. Not NPL or CYCLADES; they only demonstrated small portions of the overall volume of technical innovation, the essence of the Internet was not in these innovations, but in the vision of creating the network, the funding, the people, and the dedication to making it real. The efforts in Britain and France went no where, and Europe was still communicating by 'primitive' networks even when the NSFNET was already established as the backbone in the US. The only network that might be more emphasized is the Merit Network, whose principal actors actually were some of the most influential leaders that brought about the international expansion and commercialization in the late 80 and early 90s. You are fundamentally wrong in your wishful interpretation of biased news sources.Kbrose (talk) 12:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

"The Internet has been a major outlet for leisure activity since its inception, with entertaining social experiments such as MUDs and MOOs being conducted on university servers, and humor-related Usenet groups receiving much traffic. Today, many Internet forums have sections devoted to games and funny videos. Over 6 million people use blogs or message boards as a means of communication and for the sharing of ideas." I would like to see at least one citation for each of those three sentences. Has the internet truly been a major outlet[...]? Can we see at least one or two examples of the alleged "entertaining social experiments"? How much is "much traffic"? How many is "many Internet forums"? What are "funny videos"? Where does the "over 6 million people" figure come from? 190.230.112.222 (talk) 09:24, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

The network is used to collect information about users, as well as spying on them, including audio recording, video, correspondence, etc .. This is main. At the moment, it is the main purpose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.106.6.92 (talk) 07:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I tried to follow the link, but it is dead. Found the correct PERMANENT link for this publication : http://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-9893 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Observer77 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I think is not really useful to me because they didn't mention how to make internet more secured. Hackers can be get private information if the internet is not secured. In addition, they should be tell us how to let internet system be security and make people's private information to be safe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.41.197.223 (talk) 02:40, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

That's outside of the scope of the Wikipedia project. Please review WP:NOT. --Coolcaesar (talk) 21:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

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A means of connecting a computer to any other computer anywhere in the world via dedicated routers and servers.Internet is a inter-connection of multiple network.Biolizzy (talk) 13:44, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

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Change the following since it is no longer true: The National Telecommunications and Information Administration, an agency of the United States Department of Commerce, continues to have final approval over changes to the DNS root zone.^[1][2][3] Suggested new formulation: The National Telecommunications and Information Administration, an agency of the United States Department of Commerce, had final approval over changes to the DNS root zone until the IANA stewardship transition on the 1st of October 2016.^[4][5][6]

NTIA-source : https://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2016/statement-assistant-secretary-strickling-iana-functions-contract Flindeberg (talk) 11:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

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Please change "The Internet is the global system of interconnected computer networks that use the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP) to link devices worldwide." to "The Internet is the global system of interconnected computer networks that use a Internet protocol suite to link devices worldwide." because if a Postal Network is original Internet (physical transportation network of networks) and if it is digitized connecting Digital Mailboxes(devices like WI-FI) worldwide using different protocol like say IPsec, it still needs to fall under Internet category. Bkammela (talk) 16:49, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done for now: IPsec is a development of original IP so IPSec connected devices are still covered by the definition. Changing the article from "the" to "an" does not change substance of the definition. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:54, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

In the final, 4th paragraph of the lead, should "overreaching definitions of the two principal name spaces" instead read "overarching"? Nihil novi (talk) 21:16, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Izno (talk) 14:08, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@Power~enwiki: With respect to these changes, I appreciate the initiative to edit down the Internet lead. Did you check to see if any of the material you deleted was potentially useful to Internet § History, History of the Internet or History of the World Wide Web? ~Kvng (talk) 17:53, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure everything is in Internet § History. I didn't check the other two pages. Power~enwiki (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Vintage S-1000 Portable AM Radio - 'Internet' Brand Transistor Radio

1970 Transistor Radio. First verifiable commercial use of the term 'Internet' I can date with photos of my 9th birthday. (Born 1961) I had the first 'internet'. I coveted this radio in a shop in 1970 but I remember it for sale at least six months earlier, because I had to save up for it. Internet sold several other radios under the 'Internet' brand. Date 1970 certainly, 1969 very possibly.

Links: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/unknown_internet_s_1000.html

https://markhillpublishing.com/the-internet-transistor-radio/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by SameTimeSameChannel (talk • contribs) 13:22, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Many sources cite 4-5 years later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SameTimeSameChannel (talk • contribs) 13:19, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

https://cdn.ddweb.pro/900club/images/wheels/scaled/InternetTransistor.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by SameTimeSameChannel (talk • contribs) 13:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

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The current version is vandalized. Remove the following phrase: "depression/suicidal thought-inducing" Yizhizhai (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 20:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

The Internet was originally designed to be a rugged intercommunication protocole in case of excessive radiation (microwave, other).

It should be obvious that the amount of excess Microsoft and Bank beautifying protocoles have made it so that that ruggedness is no longer there and so gone, that it is no longer possible to maintain nor have effective communication on any line that might have excess static.

IE: It is not possible to contact your service provider effectively, the amount of Mister Ille propaganda and fast clitch prone beautifying html having made that impossible on any line with some static.

It is not possible to contact your ban effectively, the amount of Executive Ille propaganda and fast clitch prone beautifying bank html having made that impossible on any line with some static.

Used to be that it was said that it takes the beaurocracy to really muck up a good thing. I suppose that in this day and age, that implies that those executives that banks have, including those positions that a service provider would have, would all have gone to those whom needed a landing position from a beaurocratic position, for not much more then having accepted the bribe to move 'people' into choosing individuals whom allowed that direction to be taken.

I see no overal statements to that effect in this Wiki page. Is that on purpose, or plain downright 'three monkeys' oversight?

Thank you for rectifying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.91.33.30 (talk) 22:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Please delete all categories except "Internet".

The categories included here are almost - but not exactly - the same as those for "Category Internet" page. There's no obvious reason for users to have to work with two lists and there is more information to found on the Category:Internet page (subcategories for example).

Thanks 67.160.196.6 (talk) 21:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

World Internet Users Statistics and 2017 World Population Stats

I feel this should be included and the article, and replace those predictions (such as 44% use by 2020).--RM (Be my friend) 20:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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At Infrastructure, under the Routing and service tiers subheading, the section starts with Internet service providers. It then goes on to reference ISP without specifying that the acronym refers to internet service providers. Please add (ISP) after the words Internet service providers. Momalle313 (talk) 20:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Already done in "History" section. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 22:35, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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"entangled into" to "entangled in" . Do the parts maintain their state or do they become something else that cannot be separated later? 2605:E000:9161:A500:C5B3:12E7:7862:8F3A (talk) 17:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Mention your changes in an x to y format and specify which section of the article you are talking about SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 18:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

"entangled into" to "entangled in" . you cannot miss it--only one mention. do string search to confirm.2605:E000:9161:A500:C5B3:12E7:7862:8F3A (talk) 21:07, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: It's part of a quote. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 21:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

The trend toward decapitalization of the term has hit top-flight style guides already including the AP^[1], so it seems that the Terminology section of this article is way out of date. Perhaps it is time it was flagged for a rewrite. I'm still something of a Wikipedia editing newb, so I think the editing is best left up to another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tastybrain (talk • contribs) 11:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

The Terminology section seems fine to me. Despite the AP standards, there are some experts who still favor the capitalization when it is referring to the proper noun, and lowercase when referring to a generic collection of networks. I personally subscribe to this view as well. Regardless of what version becomes the official standard, the Terminology section still provides valuable information about the term. Jserio2 (talk) 13:47, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

A linked article actually makes a case (at least for 2015 when it was writen) for capitlization, not against it, "...the word internet is uppercase in virtually every reference book on the English language: dictionaries, encyclopedias, the Chicago Manual of Style, even Wikipedia." The rest of the piece is advocacy. Capitalization of the term on WP is currently mixed (Jserio2's style is just one reason for this). This has been discussed a lot both on WP and elsewhere and until a strong consensus emerges, I don't think a campaign to "correct" these inconsistencies would be productive. Arguing about these grammar details never feels productive to me. Maybe that's just me. When we're past the point of feeling inclined to argue about it, that's when the changes can be made. ~Kvng (talk) 16:08, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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The provided article is good but small, i would like to add more to this topic so that people don't have to search for necessary details in the DETAILED article, i'll add the important points which might take like 100-120 words and will be only necessary facts and no round-round para's, please help me out to help others out. Warm Regards: Dev Contact me at dls026.dn@gmail.com Devil260 (talk) 20:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

 Not done We don't contact people on email or wherever else not related to Wikipedia. If what you want add is relevant and verifiable then write it here that is the purpose of this page, then omebody will add it.  — Ammarpad (talk) 21:10, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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One of the precursors to the modern Internet is PLATO (computer system), which started in 1960. PLATO should really be worth a mention, as this computer system pioneered the many use-case concepts, such as e-mail and chat. In many respects, PLATO preceded ARPANET (later The Internet) in terms of deployment, and FidoNet (1984) preceded The Internet in availability. -Mardus /talk 17:42, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Should this be "Internet or "The Internet"? I feel like "The Internet" is better because it is normally used in reference, like "The Internet here is really good" or "The Internet is used around the world." Which is better, or should I WP:BEBOLD and do it?TheGoldenParadox (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

This has come up before. Wwwhatsup (talk) 22:13, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but I am talking about the name of the article itself. In the discussion, the final consensus was that "The Internet" was better. Would it be better as a page title? TheGoldenParadox (talk) 02:41, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

No. Because we don't use "The" in page titles unless the "The" is actually part of the name of the subject of the article. Please read up on definite and indefinite articles. -Coolcaesar (talk) 04:32, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Coolcaesar is probably correct on this. Look at other articles, like Earth. When speaking we say "the Earth" but encyclopedia articles dispense with "the" in titles as unnecessary. Majoreditor (talk) 06:09, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

It should be the internet Ayoyonetizen (talk) 16:36, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the article leaves out that the internet is a website. It seems pretty important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.26.87.187 (talk) 09:35, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

• Because it isn’t a website maybe? A somewhat poor analogy would be that the internet is the fuel and the web the car. DNA Cowboy (talk) 08:39, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

I am actually astonished at such wording, the essential dismissal of TBL’s work that has been described as just ‘a collection of web documents and services’ is factually wrong and worse, has been allowed to remain central to the article and any attempt to rectify that misleading description prevented by the protected nature of the article. No mention of the fact that the web is the device by which most internet services connect and the method by which most people interact with the internet, it is almost as though an attempt has been made to reduce the impact of the Web in favour of the Internet. DNA Cowboy (talk) 08:54, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

The article states that the internet’s origins lay with the United States but any student of history knows this is not true, that in fact there were three on-going attempts to create networks, those were (chronologically listed) NPL, Cyclades and Arpanet, so my question is why does the article promote a false history? DNA Cowboy (talk) 09:23, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

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Please fix the broken link in citation #85. The correct URL is located here: http://www.toptenreviews.com/internet-pornography-statistics/ -- Thank you! 207.239.64.196 (talk) 19:45, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

The current page you mention has a lot less detail than the previous one, which has an archive. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 01:06, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: the link is not broken because an archive link is available. I concur with Anon126 in that the current page is a lot less detailed than the previous one. Alternatively, the new link can be added as an additional reference. feminist (talk) 13:25, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Are there in Internet the "CODE" to go at more "Web-pages"? Can CODE be used as "normal words" in Internet to research with browser? (Is there a Law about this question?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.38.65.148 (talk) 15:59, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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Please remove {{Too long|date=March 2018}} at line 2 as the article is not that long, compared to other high-profile pages. It has already been appropriately split into sub-articles, so this template is not of much use. Besides, less than 1 percent of our readers edit, so why bother them with templates they don't understand and clog up the article? This would be a bit of a WP:BOLD edit, but still, I think it would make the article better. Thank you. 172.56.5.164 (talk) 13:30, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done mainly because the tag was a drive-by tag, i.e., the user that added it didn't discuss it here on the talk page and it was also that user's only contribution to this article. I would not object to the tag being re-added if accompanied by a proper discussion here on the talk page. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 13:44, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Firemen, Police, ... "Provided by the government". If the Internet is not a public service that category should be deleted.

The internet is a transport scheme; it neither adds, deletes nor modifies items transmitted. Hence it has some impact on media and those categories should be deleted. 67.160.196.6 (talk) 16:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Danski454 (talk) 12:32, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 04:21, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

According to the other wikipedia page on scale-free networks, a network is said to be scale-free if its degree distribution obeys a power law asymptotically, that is, for a large number of nodes. The cited source by Barabasi et al does not itself give empirical verification that the hypertext link network is in fact scale-free, but actually cites other sources to get the power law exponent. I did not check the citations given in Barabasi et al to see if they did this empirical verification. My concern comes from a paper by Amaral LAN, Scala A, Barthelemy M, Stanley HE (2000). "Classes of small-world networks". PNAS. 97 (21): 11149–52. where they studied several networks and found that in practice though a network may have degree distribution obeys a power law for a moderate number of nodes, the power law becomes truncated into exponential decay when the number of nodes is large, thus no being scale-free, at least according to the asymptotic definition given on the other wikipedia page. Barabasi et al themselves write that "even for those networks for which [their degree dstribution] has an exponential tail, the degree distribution significantly deviates from a Poisson distribution" (p. 71), which worries me since the definition of scale-free in wikipedia of obeying a power law is asymptotic for a large number of nodes.

So the point is that, could a more direct reference to a line number or page number or a reference cited from Barabasi that shows that the degree distribution of both the Internet IP routing structure and hypertext links network of the World Wide Web in fact obey a power-law for large number of nodes? DesolateReality (talk) 10:16, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I went to the webapge [www.gsma.com] on GSMA but could not find the said statistics. For instance, at p. 8, it is written that the number of unique mobile subscribers in the whole world in 2016 is 4.8 billion, which is 4.8 billion/7.455 billion = 64% of the then world population. So it appears very unlikely that "as of 2016, almost 60% of the world population had access to a 4G. . . network", as written in the wikipedia article.

Could you please provide the direct statistics from the GSMA website? DesolateReality (talk) 06:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Pictures of the individuals who developed the first networking systems should be on the page. Roncon1 (talk) 15:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Add More clear details on how it is not equal to The web 216.37.72.238 (talk) 23:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

You can suggest such changes here in the form of "change X to Y" – Þjarkur (talk) 00:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

The “world wide web,” or “the web” is defined as just the connections between devices that can view websites and the servers that make up all the websites in the internet. The “internet,” on the other hand, is defined as all the connections between every device in the world, even ones that cannot access the world wide web. The point is, there is a noticeable difference, so no merging is required between the two articles.  ⠀—‌‌  Glosome‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌  💬 02:43, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Shouldn't Moore's law be mentioned and linked from the article? I noticed it suddenly vanished. While the amount of information on transistors in an article about the Internet may vary over time, I'm not sure 0% is the correct number. Was the Internet was made without any transistors and was it made possible due to the drastic fall in their cost, because that seems to be the implication? GliderMaven (talk) 16:04, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Moore's law is apparently is the doubling every 18 months of Internet bandwidth now. Who knew? Nobody, because no it isn't. GliderMaven (talk) 17:11, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

I previously added a paragraph on transistors, MOSFET scaling and Moore's law in this old version here. But User:Kbrose removed it because s/he didn't feel it was relevant to the article. So as a compromise, I tried to squeeze that paragraph down to just a single sentence. While I would prefer to go into more detail in a paragraph, I'm not quite sure if that's something Kbrose would agree with. I think we may have to reach some kind of consensus. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:24, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Also, I've changed the wording, to state that it's related to Moore's law, rather than actually being Moore's law. As explained in the cited source, Moore's law (transistor count doubling every two years) contributes to the Internet bandwidth doubling every 18 months, along with other advances in MOS technology (such as advances in laser tech and noise performance). Maestro2016 (talk) 02:31, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Каждый изголяетца как может .. От всей души ! Со всей прытью как стремительный шлакоблок в лоб .. Или с улыбкой навсегда ! :) , или в задумчивость как Офелия - " Дождик кап, кап, кап - водичка в гроб бежит .. " ..

Жгучие лайки с селфями по углам .. 

Но сторон света шесть - север, юг, запад, восток, в космос, в землю. Поэтому уменьшаю всё шестикратно. И " всё становитца на свои места ". Без преувеличений Мир - много интереснее. 85.140.18.131 (talk) 18:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

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Ivan LIong Wen Chiat (talk) 00:27, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

I would like to edit as I have spotted a few errors and would like to change them. .

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 09:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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"The Internet is a global network that comprises many voluntarily interconnected autonomous networks" put in "autonomous networks" link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_system_(Internet) . In the beginning "(portmanteau of interconnected network)" put https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol to the word interconnected and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_system_(Internet) to "network" 2A00:1370:812C:5D73:4493:5501:BB24:D2E6 (talk) 23:05, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

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In the "History" section, after: Early international collaborations for the ARPANET were rare. Connections were made in 1973 to the Norwegian Seismic Array (NORSAR) via a satellite station in Tanum, Sweden, and to Peter Kirstein's research group at University College London which provided a gateway to British academic networks.[23][24] add: In addition at least one connection to a commercial computer services bureau (SIA Ltd, who operated a CDC 6600 supercomputer in London, England) was made so that the company could market its services overseas.

NOTE to Wikipedia editor: I can guarantee the accuracy of this addition I was the guy who wrote the assembler code to do it! HarrisMan99 (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Please provide a reliable source that supports this addition. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

the following good book on the history of the Internet and the story of the scientists behind its creation should be added to "Further reading": Katie Hafner and Matthew Lyon, Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet, New York, Simon & Schuster, 1996, ISBN 0-684-87216-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hybay (talk • contribs) 22:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

https://www.internethalloffame.org//blog/2015/11/12/untold-internet-internet-osi-standards-wars --Espoo (talk) 15:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

You have a legitimate point. Unfortunately, the OSI v. Internet battle is of interest only to historians of technology. The few people with the knowledge, ability, and interest to draft an intelligent, properly sourced treatment of that issue are too busy working on their Ph.Ds. I have the knowledge and ability but not the interest. I have over a dozen more interesting topics to work on that have been backed up on average for five years, like product liability. --Coolcaesar (talk) 19:38, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

There is now an article covering the Internet-OSI Standards War at Protocol Wars. Whizz40 (talk) 13:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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I'd like to remove these sentences:

"VoIP has also become increasingly popular for gaming applications, as a form of communication between players. Popular VoIP clients for gaming include Ventrilo and Teamspeak. Modern video game consoles also offer VoIP chat features." BthompsonHV 19:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@BthompsonHV: - Why do you want to remove these sentences? They seem to make sense to me, as they help explain more about communication. (They are, however, unsourced.) - Dyork (talk) 00:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Dyork: The sentences don't fit with the context of the rest of the paragraph. It just adds unnecessary clutter and doesn't add any clarity for the reader. VoIP isn't used only in gaming. It's used very broadly now, so that statement is pretty irrelevant these days with the likes of Zoom, Discord, Google Voice etc.

@BthompsonHV: - Thanks for the explanation, and in looking at the paragraph more, I do see what you mean. - Dyork (talk) 02:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

The entire section has been cleanup up a bit. Kbrose (talk) 01:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kbrose: - Thanks for cleaning that up. Looks better now! - Dyork (talk) 02:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)