Talk:Knighted chess

In fact, if Carrera was a chess theorist, Capablanca probably based the game on a first draft of the Archbishop and the Chancellor. Carrera himself probably saw the imbalance of the added knight moves and knew about the setups where it was easy to exploit it by lining up the Archbishop or the Chancellor with an unprotected pawn. This is a more plausible explanation for the references to lack of play of the game during his lifetime than that he published it and somehow forgot it. 24.49.51.83 (talk) 15:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

While it has sometimes been called “Knighted Chess”, most people interested in Chess Variants call this variant “Capablanca Chess”, where Seirawan Chess, Grand Chess, and all of the various 8x10 setups proposed over the years are considered Capablanca variants. I never heard the term “Knighted Chess” before this article was moved there, and I think it makes much more sense to call it “Capablanca Chess” as per WP:COMMONNAME

Also, I think the article gave Gothic Chess (Trice’s chess?) too much undue weight, so have removed some unverified claims about Gothic Chess and made the top picture a picture of Capablanca instead of Trice playing a Capablanca chess variant.

(My own extensive computer analysis shows that, at perfect play, Capablanca Chess is probably a win for White, but, with a carefully chosen opening setup, in real world high level play Black wins slightly more games per White win than in Classic Chess, and also that Capablanca Chess is a lot less drawish than Classic Chess)

Samboy (talk) 22:10, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Capablanca called the Knight + Bishop piece an “Archbishop” (not “Princess”, which is a term mainly used in Chess Fairy problems) and the Knight + Rook piece a “Chancellor” (and not “Empress”, which again is a term mainly used in Chess Fairy problems). Online forums and Chess Variant engines which support Capablanca chess for play have adopted these terms or other terms, e.g.:

• https://archive.ph/20260122130326/https://brainking.com/en/GameRules?tp=41 Cardinal for Knight + Bishop, Marshall for Rook + Knight
• https://www.chessvariants.com/large.dir/capablanca.html Archbishop for Knight + Bishop, Chancellor for Rook + Knight
• https://mindsports.nl/index.php/how-i-invented-games-and-why-not/chess-variants-are-easy Cardinal for Knight + Bishop, Marshall for Rook + Knight
• https://archive.ph/20030711200636/http://gothicchess.org/long_answer.html Archbishop for Knight + Bishop, Chancellor for Rook + Knight
• https://github.com/fairy-stockfish/Fairy-Stockfish/blob/master/src/piece.cpp Fairy Stockfish uses Archbishop for Knight + Bishop, Chancellor for Rook + Knight (lines 202 and 203)

Point being, these pieces are only called “Empress”/“Princess” in Fairy Chess literature, and most people who use them in actual games either go with Capablanca’s Archbishop/Chancellor naming, or Freeling’s Cardinal/Marshal(l) naming. Samboy (talk) 17:01, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

I have reverted the edit. If editors feel its better to use names only used in Fairy Chess problems in this article about the actual game, please let me and other editors know. Samboy (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2026 (UTC)