Talk:List of chemical elements
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Regarding the density of plutonium. Allotropes_of_plutonium says 19.86 for alpha phase, but there are six phases. Phases can be stabilized by alloying with a small amount of something else, and commonly are. The table doesn't mention phase at all. It seems that bomb plutonium, presumably where much of it is, is stabilized in delta with a small amount of gallium. Gah4 (talk) 21:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Update List table
I have changed the List of elements into using dedicated table {{List of chemical elements}} (/doc)
- In short
The table is build with row-subtemplate for each element to ease handling input, formatting, changes. Some data is read from central data lists (such as standard atomic weight). Some repetitive footnotes, for example on full sets of elements, are removed. Basic numerical handling in formatting and sorting.
- In detail
- Columns
- Added columns block, origin, phase
- Add separate parameter for symbol clarification (like "Hg")
- Anchor by symbol added for cross-linking: #He (for example List of chemical elements § Y for the Ytterby brothers)
- Data sources
- Use standard-data from Category:Element data sets (0) when available.
- Per symbol: name, Z, group, period, block, s.a.w., origin, phase
- Otherwise, data from old version was used initially
- For: etymology, density, m.p., b.p., heat capacity, electonegativity, abundance
- Etymology refined writing & punctuation, crosslinks added (e.g. between the four Yterbium-names)
- Notation
- Used "( )" when projected or estimated value
- Format by {{val|gaps}}
- Sorting uses numerical value ({{val}} feature)
- Footnotes
- removed footnotes referencing uncertainty
- removed footnotes that describe sets of elements
- kept footnotes on singular exceptions (He, As, Pu)
- repeat footnote from header at first live appearance (e.g., first actual [ ] notation)
- Compare old/new version
- {{List of chemical elements/2020}}
- Technical
- use row-template, parameters
- use {{val}} when "( )" value (needed for number handling)
- Not done
- Check existing data by source
- No mayor changes
-DePiep (talk) 13:11, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- You added columns. OK. Why? WP _loves_ lists. But, they often get out of hand with information; information overload. What is the point/value of each column? Is there too much information in the table? Is the information useful? Is the table too wide to be useful? IMO there is too much. The information is not wrong ... but the table is not good. Stevebroshar (talk) 19:16, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- You're responding to a thread that was started and then went dormant over 4 years ago, and are talking to someone who was banned from Wikipedia altogether 2 years ago. Whatever the current state of the page is is probably pretty stable now. If you'd like to see a change, you'll get better results starting a fresh thread with a specific proposal for change than trying to workshop a stale thing. DMacks (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Header explanations before table
Right now at Chemical_element#List_of_the_118_known_chemical_elements there's a very useful feature: a short explanation of some of the headers. It's missing from List of chemical elements. And, it could be expanded to include most or all of the headers. It would be nice to have a more trim look for the headers. This would save some screen space, particularly on small screens. Some explanation could also be in the headers using {abbr} tags. I'll add both of these to the template itself if there are no objections.
As a side note, the name origins could probably be in {efn} tags to save even more space. Wizmut (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)