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Some of the people on the list are not vegetarian as there are reliable sources including interviews revealing they eat fish. We need to keep the list accurate, pescetarians should not be on this list. I will go through the entire list and make any corrections. Psychologist Guy (talk) 14:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

If you remove any on that basis, will you please add them to Talk:List of vegetarians/former and disputed archive with an appropriate source. If you don't then it is very likely they will be added back at some point. I always cross-reference new additions against the list of removals. Betty Logan (talk) 14:39, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes I can add them to the disputed section. Unfortunately in the 80s and 90s especially in America, "vegetarianism" was incorrectly defined by many people as including chicken or fish in the diet. It became equated with a non-red meat diet. The media also confused a "meatless" diet with added fish. Some people still make the mistake of claiming fish is not meat. Kevin Eubanks has never been a vegetarian. The very source that was on this Wikipedia article says he eats fish but the title of the article describes his diet "without meat". People really need to read sources properly and not confuse vegetarianism with pescetarianism but a lot of people are not well read in this topic area so they will make mistakes like this. It's bizarre to me that someone's diet that includes 4 or 5 fish servings a week is called "meatless" or vegetarian. I wish people would learn the correct meaning of vegetarianism. A lot of the celebrities that claim they are vegetarian eat fish. I will spend some time going through the list. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Sharon den Adel is not a vegetarian, here she is in a recent interview "I think if you buy meat, you should buy it from a biological farm where they have space and get good food. It’s also good for you and good for them. So, when I buy meat – we eat meat twice a week – I go to a farm like that . Psychologist Guy (talk) 19:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Alexa Chung is not vegetarian, here she is commenting about her diet, "Sometimes I’ll eat bacon even though I’m mostly vegetarian" Psychologist Guy (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
It's obvious that Herschel Walker was never a vegetarian. He has always eaten animal foods including chicken. "He does not eat red meat but will have chicken on occasion." . I will have a look at the others. Psychologist Guy (talk) 20:30, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I removed Chuck D, per this interview "No, I’m not vegetarian — I eat fish." Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:10, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Lana Del Rey not a vegetarian as she eats chicken Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:19, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Removing Jeru The Damaja, he says "My diet is mainly vegetarian". Mainly vegetarian is not vegetarian. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:27, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Vanilla Ice is not a vegetarian, on his Twitter he wrote "I'm not just a vegetarian, I'm a veggaquarium. LOL sometimes I enjoy a little seafood", and posted a picture of his lobster dinner Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:01, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Another one to remove is Ethan Zohn. He gave up his vegetarian diet, "These days, my wife and I are on a modified paleo diet—high in meat, high in vegetables, low in sugar, carbs, and dairy." Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:05, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Michael Jackson has been removed from the list. He was not a vegetarian, his meals usually consisted of chicken and rice Psychologist Guy (talk) 00:54, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Another to remove from the list Becky Lynch, she eats meat as part of her workout routine , Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Bob Marley was never a vegetarian, he was a fish eater. "Bob limited his diet primarily to fruit, fish , and rice" Source David V. Moskowitz The Words and Music of Bob Marley (2007, p. 37), so I am removing Bob Marley from this list. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
I have removed Bode Miller as he is not a vegetarian "I don't eat cake or masses of candy, but at the same time I don’t restrict myself from eating a hamburger if that’s what I feel like." Psychologist Guy (talk) 00:39, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Lea Michele should be removed because she is not a vegetarian, she eats meat "Michele used to be totally vegan, but in recent years has relaxed her stance, making the 'conscious choice' to eat meat every once in a while". Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:49, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Nadja Auermann has never been a vegetarian as she eats chicken and fish . The reference describing her as a vegetarian is entirely unreliable, it's one of those celebrity lists with no sources and makes many other mistakes such as listing Keanue Reeves, Dustin Hoffman and Richard Gere as being vegetarian which we know is false. I will remove Nadja Auermann from the list. Psychologist Guy (talk) 11:20, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Amanda Holden

Amanda Holden is a pescetarian. She eats fish "Amanda decided to become vegetarian after being influenced by famous veggie Morrisey, lead singer with the Smiths, but continues to eat fish, making her a pescatarian". . Holden in her own words: "I’ve been a vegetarian since I was 15, but I do eat fish" . As cited above in older conversations, some of these celebrities are not vegetarian as they eat seafood. We need to go over all the sourcing available. We do not want pescetarians on this list. Psychologist Guy (talk) 13:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Adding this page to 'See also' sections of listees (per notability)

Since everyone listed here and at List of vegans is sourced, it seems the links could be added (in many cases re-added) to the entrants' 'See also' sections. Sourced inclusion is notability defining. I brought this here before adding them to make sure that there are no major objections and to obtain "formal" approval (although it's understood that consensus at individual pages may occur). I think it was Graham87 who objected and reverted when I added these a long time ago, and the large spike in views which originally resulted before all those entries were reverted was, if I recall correctly, a claim that the increase was probably not due to the See also listing. In the years since I've proven that See also distributions usually create major and long-lasting spikes in views by interested readers, and point out that the encyclopedic value of those listings is now self-evident. Thanks, and happy eating! Randy Kryn (talk) 14:22, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Making sure Graham87 is pinged after edits made to the above. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
(EC) @Randy Kryn: Thanks for the ping. Yes, it was me (see this archived discussion on my talk page). We're here to write an encyclopedia, not to increase view counts of particular pages. My stance is similar now. I think if a person's veganism/vegetarianism is a stable core part of their identity, they've strongly advocated in public for other people to take up such a diet (and/or they're part of the history of such diets), and there's a sourced in-context mention of all this in their article, then sure, add it to the see also section (if it's not in a navbox or already linked in the article body). Otherwise, no thanks. I'm not a huge fan of out-of-context see also section entries. Perhaps this sort of thing might warrant further discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout or a village pump. Graham87 (talk) 15:06, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
The encyclopedia is based on readers and their interests, and it's been proven that See also sections attract their encyclopedic curiosity. The listees themselves mention their vegetarianism or veganism or else it wouldn't be sourced. This seems enough for inclusion. And Graham87 and others, please note that navboxes are only seen on 30% of pages and thus should not be used as a reason to not include See also entries. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Re navboxes: they're given as a reason not to include see also entries in the Manual of Style on layout, so if you want that changed, feel free to go to its talk page. Graham87 (talk) 15:24, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
If someone is primarily notable for their vegan/vegetarian activism then I think it might be relevant, but in the case of most people on the list their vegetarianism is largely incidental and the link cannot be justified in such cases. Betty Logan (talk) 20:56, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Then where do the sources come from? Each person had a choice of mentioning or not mentioning their diet preference, and everybody on these lists either told an interviewer they are vegetarian or vegan or went out of their way to make sure it was known. Given your criteria, we would not have a list. Since we do, 'See also' additions seem a fair balance of this chosen and voluntarily disclosed information and defining characteristic. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
That is a misrepresentation of what I said. Betty Logan (talk) 23:37, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Then I'm confused at what is incidental. Telling the world about your diet, actively advocating for it by connecting it to your public image, is what got these people onto these two lists. Adding the lists to the 'See also' sections of the listees just takes the logical next step. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:48, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

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