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However, U.S. patents can only last up to 20 years from the date of filing which must be within one year of first publication. MP3 was released as a specification in 1991, so if U.S. courts applied U.S. law, no patent claims could apply to MP3 itself after 2012.
Any U.S. patent filed after 1992 should (by law) have any claims pertaining to MP3 struck down considering the published specification as prior art. If they had been published earlier (such as in public drafts), the latest date would be even earlier.
Current US patent law has the patents expire at most 20 years after filing. However, at the time that many of the patents were filed, it was 17 years after the patent was granted. In the big list of patents, #5,924,060 was filed August 29, 1987, so it was filed before the published specifications. But it was granted on July 13, 1999, so 17 years after that is July 13, 2016. So, sorry, but under the law that it was granted under, it expires in 2016. Jrincayc 03:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
See . The law changed in 1995, so presumably patent 5,924,060 was under the old law of 17 years from being granted. Jrincayc 03:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone done a study of when the patents required for playing an mp3 expire? Jrincayc (talk) 04:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I could be wrong, but it looks like it might be 2013 is the year that the last patents for playing an MP3 expire. I am assuming that anything filed after 1993 must only be necessary for encoding, since MP3 was a standard by then. All of the other ones that expire after 2013 look like they are about encoding MP3s. Can someone verify this? 75.174.1.63 (talk) 19:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
After looking it up myself, here are the facts that I found: The initial near complete MPEG-1 standard (parts 1,2,3) was publicly available in December 6, 1991 as ISO CD 11172. The final version of the MPEG-1 specification describes decoding and includes pseudo-code for the decoding. It also has hints as to how to encode MPEG-1 audio, but is not as detailed for that. In the US, patents must be filed within one year of publication or they are invalid. US patents filed before about 1995 last the longer of 17 years from the date that they are granted, or 20 years from the date of filing. The last US MP3 patent to expire that was filed by December 1992 (one year after publication of the draft standard) expires in December 2012. So, it should be theoretically possible to implement MP3 decoders patent free at that time. In otherwords, I think that a statement similar to the one I removed can be readded. If no-one has any objections I will do so after at least a week, or someone else can do so. Jrincayc (talk)
I added it back into the article, with three reference links. Jrincayc (talk) 21:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Either I copied the date down wrong, or it was wrong at the MP3 patent list, but #5,924,060 was filed on August 29, 1997, so it probably can't apply to MP3 decoding, since that was specified in the August 1993 ISO MPEG-1 standard ISO/IEC 11172-3. Jrincayc (talk) 13:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Here is the list of when MP3 patents expire. I am not sure how to deal with a reissued patent, but I think it probably expires based on the original patent date. US 5,742,735 is the last one to expire that was filed by August 1994 (one year from the MPEG-1 decoding spec being published, so decoding probably is safe by April, 22 2015. Some of these patents may not be necessary for encoding or decoding MP3. Also, I just did the later of 17 after the granting date, or 20 years after the filing date. Jrincayc (talk) 14:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC) (Replaced with better table using User:Jrincayc/Patent_utils Jrincayc (talk) 03:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC))

I have updated the program, to better deal with patent divisions, patent continuations, and PCT filings. It now looks the like the actual date of expiration is probably around 2015. Jrincayc (talk) 03:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Note that program is limited to the information that it can parse out of the patent text. If it can't find a exact date, it will put 32 as the day of the month. Also, at least some of the patents put the needed information in strange places, so some of the time it will be wrong. Jrincayc (talk) 14:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

More information Patent, Filed ...
PatentFiledGrantedFirst FileExpirationSummaryNotesCompany
534145720 aug 199323 aug 199430 dec 198823 aug 2011Perceptual coding of audio signals file+20: [2013, 8, 20] related_patent+20:[2008, 12, 30] grant+17:[2011, 8, 23] Case Text: This application is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/962,151, filed on Oct. 16, 1992 abandoned which is a cont. of Ser. No. 07/844,967 filed Feb. 28, 1992, now abandoned, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/292,598 filed on Dec. 30, 1988, now abandoned, and claims priority thereto.Alcatel-Lucent
RE3908022 sep 199406 may 199730 dec 198806 may 2014Rate loop processor for perceptual encoder/decoderReissue of 05627938 filed 13 aug 2002 granted 25 apr 2006 file+20: [2014, 9, 22] related_patent+20:[2008, 12, 30] grant+17:[2014, 5, 6] Case Text: This .Iadd.is a reissue .Iaddend.application .Iadd.of U.S. Pat. No. 5,627,938 filed Sep. 22, 1994 as application Ser. No. 08/310,898 which .Iaddend.is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/844,811, filed on Mar. 2, 1992, now abandoned.Iadd., which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 07/844,967 filed Feb. 28, 1992, now abandoned, which is a continuation of Ser. No. 07/292,598 filed Dec. 30, 1988 now abandoned.Iaddend..Alcatel-Lucent
497248421 jul 198820 nov 199020 nov 198720 nov 2007Method of transmitting or storing masked sub-band coded audio signals file+20: [2008, 7, 21] pct_file+20:[2007, 11, 20] grant+17:[2007, 11, 20]Audio MPEG, Inc
521467831 may 199025 may 199331 may 199031 may 2010Digital transmission system using subband coding of a digital signal file+20: [2010, 5, 31] grant+17:[2010, 5, 25]Audio MPEG, Inc
532339621 dec 199221 jun 199401 jun 199021 jun 2011Digital transmission system, transmitter and receiver for use in the transmission system file+20: [2012, 12, 21] related_patent+20:[2010, 6, 1] grant+17:[2011, 6, 21] Case Text: This is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/532,462 filed Jun. 1, 1990 now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
553982907 jun 199523 jul 199601 jun 199023 jul 2013Subband coded digital transmission system using some composite signals file+20: [2015, 6, 7] related_patent+20:[2010, 6, 1] grant+17:[2013, 7, 23] Case Text: This application is a division of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 08/173,850 filed Dec. 27, 1993, which is continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 07/997,158 filed Dec. 21, 1992, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,323,396, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/532,462 filed on Jun. 1, 1990 by Gerardus C. P. Lokhoff for DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER FOR USE IN THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, AND RECORD CARRIER OBTAINED BY MEANS OF THE TRANSMITTER IN THE FORM OF A RECORDING DEVICE, now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
560661827 dec 199325 feb 199701 jun 199025 feb 2014Subband coded digital transmission system using some composite signals file+20: [2013, 12, 27] related_patent+20:[2010, 6, 1] grant+17:[2014, 2, 25] Case Text: This application is a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 07/997,158 filed Dec. 21, 1992 now U.S Pat. No. 5,32,396, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/532,462 filed on Jun. 1, 1990 by Gerardus C. P. Lokhoff for DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER FOR USE IN THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, AND RECORD CARRIER OBTAINED BY MEANS OF THE TRANSMITTER IN THE FORM OF A RECORDING DEVICE, now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
553065506 jun 199525 jun 199601 jun 199025 jun 2013Digital sub-band transmission system with transmission of an additional signal file+20: [2015, 6, 6] related_patent+20:[2010, 6, 1] grant+17:[2013, 6, 25] Case Text: This application is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/190,807, filed Feb. 1, 1994, now abandoned, which is a continuation of co-pending U.S. patent application Ser. No. 08/173,850 filed Dec. 27, 1993, by Gerardus C. P. Lokhoff, Y. F. Dehery, and G. Stoll for SUBBAND CODED DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM USING SOME COMPOSITE SIGNALS, which is a continuation of co-pending U.S. patent application Ser. No. 07/997,158 filed Dec. 21, 1992, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,323,396 issued Jun. 21, 1994, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/532,462, filed on Jun. 1, 1990 by Gerardus C. P. Lokhoff for DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER FOR USE IN THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, AND RECORD CARRIER OBTAINED BY MEANS OF THE TRANSMITTER IN THE FORM OF A RECORDING DEVICE, now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
577799207 jun 199507 jul 199801 jun 199007 jul 2015Decoder for decoding and encoded digital signal and a receiver comprising the decoder file+20: [2015, 6, 7] related_patent+20:[2010, 6, 1] grant+17:[2015, 7, 7] Case Text: This application is a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 08/173,850 filed Dec. 27, 1993, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,606,618, which is a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 07/997,158 filed Dec. 21, 1992, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,323,396, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/532,462 filed on Jun. 1, 1990 by Gerardus C. P. Lokhoff for DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER FOR USE IN THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, AND RECORD CARRIER OBTAINED BY MEANS OF THE TRANSMITTER IN THE FORM OF A RECORDING DEVICE, now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
628930808 mar 200011 sep 200101 jun 199001 jun 2010Encoded wideband digital transmission signal and record carrier recorded with such a signal file+20: [2020, 3, 8] related_patent+20:[2010, 6, 1] term extension 0 days Case Text: This application is a division of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 08/488,536 filed Jun. 7, 1995 now abandoned, which is a division of application Ser. No. 08/173,850 filed Dec. 27, 1993, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,606,618, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/997,158 filed Dec. 21, 1992, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,323,396, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/532,462 filed on Jun. 1, 1990 now abandoned, by Gerardus C. P. Lokhoff for DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER FOR USE IN THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, AND RECORD CARRIER OBTAINED BY MEANS OF THE TRANSMITTER IN THE FORM OF A RECORDING DEVICE, now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
548164324 apr 199502 jan 199618 mar 199318 mar 2013Transmitter, receiver and record carrier for transmitting/receiving at least a first and a second signal component file+20: [2015, 4, 24] related_patent+20:[2013, 3, 18] grant+17:[2013, 1, 2] Case Text: This is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/180,004, filed Jan. 11, 1994 which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 08/032,915, filed Mar. 18, 1993, both now abandoned.Audio MPEG, Inc
554424725 oct 199406 aug 199625 oct 199425 oct 2014Transmission and reception of a first and a second main signal component file+20: [2014, 10, 25] grant+17:[2013, 8, 6]Audio MPEG, Inc
561098521 jan 199411 mar 199721 jan 199411 mar 2014Digital 3-channel transmission of left and right stereo signals and a center signal file+20: [2014, 1, 21] grant+17:[2014, 3, 11]Audio MPEG, Inc
574031730 aug 199514 apr 199821 jul 199214 apr 2015Process for finding the overall monitoring threshold during a bit-rate-reducing source coding file+20: [2015, 8, 30] related_patent+20:[2013, 9, 17] pct_file+20:[2012, 7, 21] grant+17:[2015, 4, 14] Case Text: This application is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/119,109, filed Sep. 17, 1993 (now abandoned).Audio MPEG, Inc
587808007 feb 199702 mar 199907 feb 199707 feb 2017N-channel transmission, compatible with 2-channel transmission and 1-channel transmission file+20: [2017, 2, 7]Audio MPEG, Inc
596003709 apr 199728 sep 199909 apr 199709 apr 2017Encoding of a plurality of information signals file+20: [2017, 4, 9]Audio MPEG, Inc
599171531 aug 199523 nov 199931 aug 199531 aug 2015Perceptual audio signal subband coding using value classes for successive scale factor differences file+20: [2015, 8, 31] Case Text: This application is a Continuation of application Ser. No. 08/094,028, filed Jul. 26, 1993 (now abandoned), which is a 371 of PCT/EP91/01211 Jun. 6, 1991.Audio MPEG, Inc
602349009 apr 199708 feb 200009 apr 199709 apr 2017Encoding apparatus for encoding a plurality of information signals file+20: [2017, 4, 9]Audio MPEG, Inc
482126016 dec 198711 apr 198916 dec 198716 dec 2007Transmission system file+20: [2007, 12, 16] grant+17:[2006, 4, 11]Thomson
494260703 feb 198817 jul 199003 feb 198803 feb 2008Method of transmitting an audio signal file+20: [2008, 2, 3] grant+17:[2007, 7, 17]Thomson
521474201 oct 199025 may 199326 jan 199025 may 2010Method for transmitting a signal file+20: [2010, 10, 1] pct_file+20:[2010, 1, 26] grant+17:[2010, 5, 25]Thomson
522799017 jan 199213 jul 199317 jan 199217 jan 2012Process for transmitting and receiving a signal file+20: [2012, 1, 17] grant+17:[2010, 7, 13]Thomson
538481124 aug 199224 jan 199508 oct 199024 jan 2012Method for the transmission of a signal file+20: [2012, 8, 24] pct_file+20:[2010, 10, 8] grant+17:[2012, 1, 24]Thomson
573694331 may 199607 apr 199808 jul 199407 apr 2015Method for determining the type of coding to be selected for coding at least two signals file+20: [2016, 5, 31] pct_file+20:[2014, 7, 8] grant+17:[2015, 4, 7]Thomson
545583326 apr 199303 oct 199525 oct 199003 oct 2012Process for the detecting of errors in the transmission of frequency-coded digital signals file+20: [2013, 4, 26] pct_file+20:[2010, 10, 25] grant+17:[2012, 10, 3]Thomson
555983415 apr 199424 sep 199606 oct 199224 sep 2013Method of reducing crosstalk in processing of acoustic or optical signals file+20: [2014, 4, 15] pct_file+20:[2012, 10, 6] grant+17:[2013, 9, 24]Thomson
532172926 apr 199314 jun 199424 jun 199124 jun 2011Method for transmitting a signal file+20: [2013, 4, 26] related_patent+20:[2011, 6, 24] grant+17:[2011, 6, 14] Case Text: This is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/718,402, filed Jun. 24, 1991, now abandoned.Thomson
570630902 may 199506 jan 199802 nov 199306 jan 2015Process for transmitting and/or storing digital signals of multiple channels file+20: [2015, 5, 2] pct_file+20:[2013, 11, 2] grant+17:[2015, 1, 6]Thomson
570134612 sep 199623 dec 199702 feb 199502 feb 2015Method of coding a plurality of audio signals file+20: [2016, 9, 12] pct_file+20:[2015, 2, 2] grant+17:[2014, 12, 23]Thomson
574273525 aug 199421 apr 199820 apr 198921 apr 2015Digital adaptive transformation coding method file+20: [2014, 8, 25] related_patent+20:[2009, 4, 20] grant+17:[2015, 4, 21] Case Text: This is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/133,273 filed Oct. 7, 1993 now abandoned which is a continuation of Ser. No. 07/982,063 filed Nov. 25, 1992 now abandoned, which is a continuation of Ser. No. 07/716,769 filed Jun. 19, 1991 now abandoned, which is a continuation of Ser. No. 07/347,806, filed as PCT/DE88/00618, Oct. 6, 1988 published as WO89/03574, Apr. 20, 1989 now abandoned.Thomson
581267215 dec 199422 sep 199813 oct 199222 sep 2015Method for reducing data in the transmission and/or storage of digital signals of several dependent channels file+20: [2014, 12, 15] pct_file+20:[2012, 10, 13] grant+17:[2015, 9, 22]Thomson
557943026 jan 199526 nov 199632 dec 199126 nov 2013Digital encoding process file+20: [2015, 1, 26] related_patent+20:[2011, 12, 32] grant+17:[2013, 11, 26] Case Text: This application is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/169,768, filed on Dec. 20, 1993, now abandoned, which is a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/768,239, filed as PCT/DE90/00286 on Apr. 12, 1990, which is now abandoned.Thomson
618553926 may 199806 feb 200119 feb 199719 feb 2017Process of low sampling rate digital encoding of audio signals file+20: [2018, 5, 26] pct_file+20:[2017, 2, 19]Thomson
600939916 apr 199728 dec 199916 apr 199716 apr 2017Method and apparatus for encoding digital signals employing bit allocation using combinations of different threshold models to achieve desired bit rates file+20: [2017, 4, 16]Thomson
592406020 mar 199713 jul 199914 jan 199114 jan 2011Digital coding process for transmission or storage of acoustical signals by transforming of scanning values into spectral coefficients file+20: [2017, 3, 20] related_patent+20:[2011, 1, 14] Case Text: This application is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/650,896, filed on May 17, 1996, (now abandoned) which was a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/519,620, filed on Sep. 25, 1995, (now abandoned) which was a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/977,748, filed on Nov. 16, 1992, (now abandoned), which was a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/816,528, filed on Dec. 30, 1991, (now abandoned), which was a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/640,550, filed on Jan. 14, 1991, (now abandoned), which was a continuation of application Ser. No. 07/177,550, filed on Apr. 4, 1991, (now abandoned) as international application serial No. PCT/DE87/00384, filed Aug. 29, 1987, claiming priority to foreign appl. No. P3629434.9, filed Aug. 29, 1986.Thomson
570399918 nov 199630 dec 199732 feb 199532 feb 2015Process for reducing data in the transmission and/or storage of digital signals from several interdependent channels file+20: [2016, 11, 18] related_patent+20:[2015, 2, 32] Case Text: This application is a continuation of application Ser. No. 08/338,618, filed as PCT/DE93/00448 May 18, 1993.Thomson
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Patent List

List of the MP3 Patents for reference. Jrincayc (talk) 15:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Alcatel-Lucent
    • US 5,341,457 -- Perceptual coding of audio signals -- Filed: August 20, 1993 Granted: August 23, 1994
    • US RE39,080 -- Rate loop processor for perceptual encoder/decoder -- Filed: August 13, 2002 Granted: April 25, 2006 Reissue of 05627938 Filed: Sep., 1994 Granted: May., 1997
  • Audio MPEG, Inc
    • US 4,972,484 -- Method of transmitting or storing masked sub-band coded audio signals -- Filed: July 21, 1988 Granted: November 20, 1990
    • US 5,214,678 -- Digital transmission system using subband coding of a digital signal -- Filed: May 31, 1990 Granted: May 25, 1993
    • US 5,323,396 -- Digital transmission system, transmitter and receiver for use in the transmission system -- Filed: December 21, 1992 Granted: June 21, 1994
    • US 5,539,829 -- Subband coded digital transmission system using some composite signals -- Filed: June 7, 1995 Granted: July 23, 1996
    • US 5,606,618 -- Subband coded digital transmission system using some composite signals -- Filed: December 27, 1993 Granted: February 25, 1997
    • US 5,530,655 -- Digital sub-band transmission system with transmission of an additional signal -- Filed: June 6, 1995 Granted: June 25, 1996
    • US 5,777,992 -- Decoder for decoding and encoded digital signal and a receiver comprising the decoder -- Filed: June 7, 1995 Granted: July 7, 1998
    • US 6,289,308 -- Encoded wideband digital transmission signal and record carrier recorded with such a signal -- Filed: March 8, 2000 Granted: September 11, 2001
    • US 5,481,643 -- Transmitter, receiver and record carrier for transmitting/receiving at least a first and a second signal component -- Filed: April 24, 1995 Granted: January 2, 1996
    • US 5,544,247 -- Transmission and reception of a first and a second main signal component -- Filed: October 25, 1994 Granted: August 6, 1996
    • US 5,610,985 -- Digital 3-channel transmission of left and right stereo signals and a center signal -- Filed: January 21, 1994 Granted: March 11, 1997
    • US 5,740,317 -- Process for finding the overall monitoring threshold during a bit-rate-reducing source coding -- Filed: August 30, 1995 Granted: April 14, 1998
    • US 5,878,080 -- N-channel transmission, compatible with 2-channel transmission and 1-channel transmission -- Filed: February 7, 1997 Granted: March 2, 1999
    • US 5,960,037 -- Encoding of a plurality of information signals -- Filed: April 9, 1997 Granted: September 28, 1999
    • US 5,991,715 -- Perceptual audio signal subband coding using value classes for successive scale factor differences -- Filed: August 31, 1995 Granted: November 23, 1999
    • US 6,023,490 -- Encoding apparatus for encoding a plurality of information signals -- Filed: April 9, 1997 Granted: February 8, 2000
  • Thomson
    • US 4,821,260 Expired
    • US 4,942,607 Expired
    • US 5,214,742 -- Method for transmitting a signal -- Filed: October 1, 1990 Granted: May 25, 1993
    • US 5,227,990 -- Process for transmitting and receiving a signal -- Filed: January 17, 1992 Granted: July 13, 1993
    • US 5,384,811 -- Method for the transmission of a signal -- Filed: August 24, 1992 Granted: January 24, 1995
    • US 5,736,943 -- Method for determining the type of coding to be selected for coding at least two signals -- Filed: May 31, 1996 Granted: April 7, 1998
    • US 5,455,833 -- Process for the detecting of errors in the transmission of frequency-coded digital signals -- Filed: April 26, 1993 Granted: October 3, 1995
    • US 5,559,834 -- Method of reducing crosstalk in processing of acoustic or optical signals -- Filed: April 15, 1994 Granted: September 24, 1996
    • US 5,321,729 -- Method for transmitting a signal -- Filed: April 26, 1993 Granted: June 14, 1994
    • US 5,706,309 -- Process for transmitting and/or storing digital signals of multiple channels -- Filed: May 2, 1995 Granted: January 6, 1998
    • US 5,701,346 -- Method of coding a plurality of audio signals -- Filed: September 12, 1996 Granted: December 23, 1997
    • US 5,742,735 -- Digital adaptive transformation coding method -- Filed: August 25, 1994 Granted: April 21, 1998
    • US 5,812,672 -- Method for reducing data in the transmission and/or storage of digital signals of several dependent channels -- Filed: December 15, 1994 Granted: September 22, 1998
    • US 5,579,430 -- Digital encoding process -- Filed: January 26, 1995 Granted: November 26, 1996
    • US 6,185,539 -- Process of low sampling rate digital encoding of audio signals -- Filed: May 26, 1998 Granted: February 6, 2001
    • US 6,009,399 -- Method and apparatus for encoding digital signals employing bit allocation using combinations of different threshold models to achieve desired bit rates -- Filed: April 16, 1997 Granted: December 28, 1999
    • US 5,924,060 -- Digital coding process for transmission or storage of acoustical signals by transforming of scanning values into spectral coefficients -- Filed: March 20, 1997 Granted: July 13, 1999
    • US 5,703,999 -- Process for reducing data in the transmission and/or storage of digital signals from several interdependent channels -- Filed: November 18, 1996 Granted: December 30, 1997
I think that this list would need to be cleaned a bit. Some AT&T/Bell/Lucent/Alcatel patents are likely missing, and some of the listed patents do not cover mp3 (ex: US 6,185,539) --Gabriel Bouvigne (talk) 19:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Go for it. I would love a comprehensive list of the patents. Jrincayc (talk) 03:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

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