Talk:Nintendo Switch 2/Archive 1

There is a less complete draft of this article in draftspace at Draft:Nintendo Switch 2. If someone could merge any non-overlapping content into this article and BLAR that'd be awesome. Toadspike [Talk] 14:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I think this article needs to make early rumors, like the dual screen rumor, that are mentioned, obviously debunked. The final Switch 2 has a single screen like the original. Maddox121 ForgotHisPassword (talk) 15:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It never states them as fact, it only mentions them as rumors to begin with. Though yes, some of this sort of junk can just be trimmed out altogether. Sergecross73 msg me 15:45, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Add a announcement section within or standalone; similar to the spanish version of this article (and others), I think it's not amazing that the reveal trailer itself is not given a distinction in the history section and is not even in the hardware section, furthermore it would separate leaks from the official announcements cleanly.

as its a big change i'd thought i'd ask here first Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 16:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

WP tries to avoid significant coverage of announcements themselves, even usually downplaying the date. Once all is said and done the announcement aspects are typically of trivial importance. — Masem (t) 16:30, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It was more as a way to differentiate between rumours and official news, but I'll wait until there is more to seperate Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 16:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

The redirect An update from Nintendo has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 16 § An update from Nintendo until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It'll likely be impossible to do much in these first days, with the insane traffic and passerby edits happening, but eventually, we'll need to overhaul the article. There's a lot of overlap between sections and even repeated points in the same sections at time. Sergecross73 msg me 17:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Once the hardware specs are out, that whole section will need to be flushed and rewritten.
There are some points in the history section that can be cleaned up and less proseliney — Masem (t) 18:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Agreed. I've tried some, but I can't spend much more than 20-30 seconds on an edit or a get bombarded with edit conflicts, so I figured I'd just start an area to discuss future plans when things settle down a bit. Sergecross73 msg me 18:30, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

not worth going through getting semi-extended i take it? Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

No, not yet. There's a lot of edits, and some are misguided...but they seem to largely be in good-faith. There's hasn't been much in the way of vandalism that I've noticed. Sergecross73 msg me 20:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I was originally hoping we could keep this as a draft, but I doubt that will happen at this point, but we can work on improving it between now and the direct. TotallynotWario (talk) 04:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I've started a draft at Draft:List of Nintendo Switch 2 games, for anyone who wishes to contribute.

As I mention on it's talk page:

1. It will almost certainly be WP:TOOSOON to publish this draft until the April 2, 2025 Nintendo Direct. Please don't attempt to, as it'll almost certainly be deleted or sent back to draft space if done too early.
2. The "rumored" section is not ever intended to ever be published as is, its just for helping building and prepare the list for when it is ready to be published in April. We can prep entries, and simply "move them over" as they're confirmed. But again, only when its a draft.

Input is welcome, its very much so a work in progress. Sergecross73 msg me 16:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I think we might need a more formal discussion on this, but I think this article makes more sense as a draft for now than a fullblown article. TotallynotWario (talk) 14:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It's far too soon given the lack of technical details. Even what's being reported in the press now reads as highly speculative and guessing at things. It should stay a redirect until April 2 or if Nintendo releases more concrete details on the unit before then Masem (t) 14:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

In the most technical sense, I believe its probably WP:TOOSOON, but I also believe its going to be next to impossible to enforce or get a consensus on that now that its officially announced, so I'm working on maintaining it rather than eliminating it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Although there is virtually no official information available yet, I don't see it as a major problem either when we already have a main article. All the background information, rumors, and reactions, even if some of them may not be worth mentioning, make the content long enough to kinda justify an own article. Maxeto0910 (talk) 16:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

For now I guess it would make sense to have an article just for the Switch 2, but it shouldn't have a bunch of speculation and rumours. Maybe the article could mention everything in the trailer and everything officially stated by Nintendo so far? After the Nintendo Direct on April 2nd we could add more details. It just doesn't make sense to have an article this big so early. Connor7184 (talk) 19:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

In a general sense, rumors and speculation are acceptable to have in there, if they're verified by a reliable sources and shown with proper context (ie making it clear they're a rumor.) That said, the article does need clean up and reworking, its just a bit hard at the moment because there are so many people making so many edits. It'll be easier down the line when things calm down and stabilize more. Sergecross73 msg me 19:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Should we add a screenshot or image of the Switch 2 from the trailer to this article? I don't know where in the article would be best fit for including an image of the Switch 2, but I just feel it should be included in here somewhere. Connor7184 (talk) 19:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Given it will be out within the year, no, since there is a reasonable likelihood a free image of the unit will be had in a relatively short time, and thus a non-free image from the trailer would fail WP:NFCC#1 Masem (t) 20:51, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok. Just wasn't sure. Connor7184 (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

We should probably write "Most Nintendo Switch games" and add an explanatory note clarifying that some Switch games may not be compatible or fully supported according to Nintendo. Once more info is available, we can expand the note to include concrete reasons. Maxeto0910 (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't think that's necessary at the moment. Not every Game Boy (Color) game works on the GBA but we don't clarify that in the Game Boy Advance article. I think we should wait until further clarification from Nintendo. JOEBRO⁶⁴ 19:58, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Seconded. Infobox is just broad strokes, and the body covers this detail. Sergecross73 msg me 20:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Of course, the infobox should be as concise as possible and avoid unnecessary details. However, the trimming should stop where oversimplification begins. I really don't think the parameter gets too bloated by simply adding the words "Most" and "games". Maxeto0910 (talk) 20:32, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

"Most" isn't the wording they're using though. And I know how this'll go, it'll only lead to endless attempts by passerby editors, who will add their WP:OR tweaking to the wording in efforts to try to quantify something we don't really know yet.

The official word is that it's BC with some exceptions. Maybe a footnote that mentions there will be exceptions instead? Sergecross73 msg me 20:54, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I think its going to depend on how long that exemption list is. If its like 5 games (at most), that's easily a footnote on this page and the List of Switch games. Anything more, and likely will need to to mark up the Switch games list with a new flag to indicate this. It also depends if they tell us why the games aren't support (like the educated guess that Labo won't be supported due to the physical size). But definitely a wait-and-see matter, nothing we should push for now. Masem (t) 21:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Sure, I'm fine with a brief explanatory note. Maxeto0910 (talk) 21:04, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

1) This is the first time I've heard the info that the GBA is not compatible with some GB and GBC games. In the "Games" section of the GBA article, it specifically states that the GBA is compatible with "all earlier Game Boy titles", so either the article or your comparison is wrong. And talking about taking another article for reference: The PlayStation 5 article has my suggestion for this article implemented, stating that "Almost all PlayStation 4 games and PlayStation VR games" are backward compatible. The featured Wii article does similar with its GameCube backward compatibility by having an explanatory note in the infobox.

2) We already have the information that some Switch games may not be compatible or fully supported confirmed by Nintendo. I can see no good reason for being silent about this fact. I think there's no need to "wait until further clarification from Nintendo". Simply writing "Nintendo Switch" in the backward compatibility parameter is an oversimplification and misleading. Maxeto0910 (talk) 20:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I mean, Ounce has only been seen twice, so I thought it would have been best if we just marked it as dubious, cause we don't have any concrete evidence to back up the theory. FavoriteOne (talk) 23:00, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not opposed to removal. True or not, it's not very widely known or used. Sergecross73 msg me 23:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Skyshifter and Masem I don't see why these edits 1 and 2 were reverted. Upon inspection this whole section appears to clearly violate WP:CRYSTAL. Pretty much the only official hardware information we have is that it is backwards compataible. The rest is rumour and specualtion and in clear vilaton of Wikipedia guidelines. Helper201 (talk) 20:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Presenting the specs in a table without the aid of prose to say that they are rumored specs it look like the specs are official, which we want to avoid. — Masem (t) 21:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

If they hadn't removed it, I probably would have. I don't think it makes sense to host the entirety of leaked, unofficial specs like that. It's WP:UNDUE to focus so much on a single leak in so much detail. Sergecross73 msg me 21:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

i would add that other "hardware" information we have include The LCD screen and the second usb port; not to mention the other physical properties we can see in the trailer. the table is too far but i would not say the only official hardware info we have is backwards compatibility, we know enough to have a section and the rampant rumors deserve mention, perhaps it can be reworded to emphasize the "unofficial" nature of these leaks; I personally don't find that necessary, but removing the whole hardware section is unnecessary Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 21:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Masem I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not disagreeing with the removal of the table. I'm saying the whole hardware section should be removed like this person tried to do, as the whole section is in violation of WP:CRYSTAL, not just that table. I agree with the table’s removal, it’s just the rest of the section should also have been left removed and not reverted.

As for Welp22, again, the sources are speculation. The video from Nintendo didn't "say" anything (besides backwards compatibility as I already mentioned), it was just an unworded video. We need sources explicitly state information, per WP:SYNTH, and and not rumours or speculation. Helper201 (talk) 21:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I think you're missing an important aspect of CRYSTAL - Predictions, speculation, forecasts and theories stated by reliable, expert sources or recognized entities in a field may be included, though editors should be aware of creating undue bias to any specific point of view.

It would be a CRYSTAL violation if we put down "The Switch 2 will come in an emerald green model source - Serge". But it's acceptable it's acceptable if it's coming from a reliable source, and correctly written in the proper context that it's not official. Sergecross73 msg me 21:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay, but it's a bit different when a whole speculation is pretty much entirely made up of speculation. We aren't talking about one or two sentences here but a whole seven paragraph section of the Wikipedia page. That is definetly counter to what the crystal guideline puts across. Helper201 (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

sorry when i gave the example of the LCD it was specifically because it is not speculation, I understand the sentiment but there is enough here to justify a hardware section, removing it makes this not only a worse article, but also just causes hassle for later on when the console is out. Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 21:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

The source says it’s for an "unnamed game console", while its highly likely to be the Switch 2, that's speculation nonetheless. The speculation and thus most of this section will be redundant when the official hardware is revealed, so much of it can be removed then, so I don't see the problem with doing so now. Helper201 (talk) 21:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I suppose this goes back to "should have kept it as a draft" Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 07:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Indeed, it could use some trimming. Sergecross73 msg me 21:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

100% agree here. Too much speculation in the article which is not right given that not much of it is official. Sceeegt (talk) 18:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

A new editor keeps adding this edit. It's a verification failure. The article was published a year ago and doesn't even mention Switch 2. It appears to be ripped straight from the original Switch article. There, it's properly used. But it doesn't verify anything for this article. Sergecross73 msg me 13:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

I just visited the template page for Template:Cite Q and it says

"From the TfD closure: "Until the matter of transcluding Wikidata on Wikipedia is resolved (most likely with a huge and contentious RFC) usage of this template should be extremely vetted to ensure that all of the transcluded information is accurate.""

I should have made this post before the moment I posted my first "Cite Q". That would have been the responsible thing for me to do. From now on I will attempt to do that so that I honor the consensus from September 2017 regarding "extremely vetted".

If anyone needs help to understand Wikidata I'm here to provide answers to any questions you may have, limited only to my experience and knowledge and preferably relevant to Wikidata references through the "Cite Q" system(the only reason I'm here). If I can't answer something I may forward it to Project chat on Wikidata. That way you can help me help us all and I'll return having hopefully learnt something new. Journalisticape (talk) 09:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

I suppose I have been a bit confused on this. I'm not sure I understand what the benefit is (or why someone would seemingly dedicate their entire Wikipedia presence to this?) Sergecross73 msg me 13:45, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Was anything confusing about my edits? Journalisticape (talk) 15:59, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I didn't realize you are an admin until now. Thank you for your input. I'll think about what I'll do next. Probably will work only from Wikidata. Journalisticape (talk) 16:04, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound rude. I'm not even necessarily opposed, I legitimately just do not understand the purpose/benefits of doing it. And to each their own, but it doesn't seem like a very fulfilling thing to be doing either. Sergecross73 msg me 16:17, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I did not feel you were rude. I am actually honored that you decided to give me/us your feedback and I think this is more about the Wikipedia community more than it is about me or my edits here on enwiki. Journalisticape (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I think doing the cite Q here is a bit premature given that the unit specs haven't been fully announced, and thus much of the details and sources could change. I also feel the cite Q is better for references of more permanence, such as to books or newspapers of note (like, we do use a NYTimes article here), which would seem to have some reason to be stored at Wikidata. Our more predominate sources do not seem like the type of material that need to be documented as a Wikidata item. Masem (t) 13:56, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Once the Switch 2 specs are going to be revealed, what will we do with the old specs information of Switch 2(2022-2024), delete it, put it in the History section, or just leave it there? Criseid (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Unless its somehow consequential to the Switch 2's history (unlikely), it'll be deleted. It's technically possible it'll be important. For example, with the PlayStation Vita, it was noteworthy that at one point it was mis-represented/overestimated as a "portable PlayStation 3" of sorts, and that affected it. But if its just rumored specs that were flat out wrong, there's nothing worth keeping. Sergecross73 msg me 18:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Well honestly, it's kind of important considering that those specs came long before the console was even announced. This is the first time that the console specs have been leaked well before the production, considering that some Switch 2 spec information dates back to 2022. Aside from a few rumors I doubt that most of the Switch 2 specs are wrong, otherwise those specs would already be discarded for years. Criseid (talk) 21:01, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Well, if they're correct, then they wouldn't be removed, they'd likely be retained in the context of them being official specs, and we'd probably have a note in the history section about it leaking prior to the reveal. Sergecross73 msg me 21:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Okay, that sounds like a good idea, thanks for the replies. Criseid (talk) 23:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

consolidate them and put them in a #Pre-release section like with other consoles and og switch Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 08:46, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

it says that physical game cards and digital games will be on it but that isn't confirmed, tho it may sound obvious 195.213.44.0 (talk) 08:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes it is, see sources like https://www.ign.com/articles/the-nintendo-switch-2-is-officially-almost-fully-backward-compatible Sergecross73 msg me 12:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

I think the user was more referring to distribution of games for switch 2, but I agree that this is confirmed, switch 2 games have been reported to be on physical cards that are roughly the same as the og's cards, BUT I suppose it doesn't say that on the Nintendo website? either way I don't see what needs changed Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 12:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@Welp22 basically Nintendo hasn't actually announced switch 2 digital games, even tho they will probably exist 195.213.44.0 (talk) 20:09, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Half of this page is speculation. I'd normally not have a problem with speculation being in this page particularly, but this speculation feels like it is being presented as "practically" confirmed. I think the page should be edited to be more clear that some details are speculation. Kijetesantakalu042 (talk) 17:14, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

The details that have not been confirmed by Nintendo are clearly used in context that explains they are industry rumors and not confirmed by Nintendo. Masem (t) 17:38, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Funny enough I was talking about this earlier with a non-nintendo fan and not really a gamer at all and they thought the page was mostly speculation.

Which in opinion means it's fine as people can tell what is and isn't official in it's current state Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 17:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

What parts are not explicitly not mentioned as speculation or rumor? I don't mind making some tweaks, but the whole article will be rewritten several times over when the big reveal happens on April 2nd, so it's probably not worth sinking much time into. The current state is extremely temporary. Sergecross73 msg me 18:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't understand why that is the case. Is it cause it hasn't been released yet? Dr. Precursor (talk) 21:58, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Yes. Once released it likely can be rated higher, and while unlikely Nintendo will cancel release, it's still a caution. Masem (t) 22:00, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Dr. Precursor (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

really just a question, in this revision a link in the infobox to the OG switch was removed by @Sergecross73.

I'm wondering why exactly, I'm not a experienced editor at all but it seems to me like that link should be fine, even though the og switch is linked in the article before i cannot seem to find a mention in WP:LINK that says the infobox link is incorrect and many other consoles pages use it, for example the switch page itself, which links not only here but also to the wii u, just the same as the edit reverted in this case.

again, just a question about style, thank you in advance Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 08:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello. See WP:OVERLINK, specifically WP:LINKONCE. We don't link a term's every mention, usually just its first mention. Sergecross73 msg me 11:36, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

well then per WP:LINKONCE the infobox link should be kept if useful no?

and given other pages like Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 5 ect. have the predecessor linked in the infobox it is useful no? Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Why would you argue it's "useful" when it's linked directly above in the backward compatibility field? That's exactly the sort of double linking in close proximity that LINKONCE discourages. Sergecross73 msg me 12:35, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Like the switch 1 page there should be one image of the switch 2 in Handheld, and below there should be an image of it docked. Always4TH (talk) 19:58, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

There are no official images of the console yet, much less free versions we can use. Masem (t) 20:03, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Ah I forgot about how there's no official images yet, sorry I am stupid😔 Always4TH (talk) 20:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

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Add to Third-party support, "Suda51, a speaker at the original Switch launch presentation, said his studio, Grasshopper Manufacture would "definitely gonna cook for it."

Source: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/suda51-on-switch-2-twin-peaks-western-culture-and-his-favourite-beer/#google_vignette

"Amazon Games CEO Christoph Hartmann also pledged support."

Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/amazon-games-boss-says-label-will-put-games-on-nintendo-switch-2-praises-switch-as-a-great-device 2600:1016:B002:B567:7514:8651:73C4:44B (talk) 19:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Personally, I think we need to start trimming back this section. I imagine most companies/devs are going to pledge some level of support, and its going to get quite bloated and redundant. I'll let someone else answer this request though. Sergecross73 msg me 19:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: Hey! I agree with Sergecross73 on this! I believe we need to trim back on this article! Companies can pledge this but its not really needed to add. Valorrr (talk) 16:01, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Given that April 2 is literally around the corner, I can't see much more to add until Nintendo provides explicit information ahead of the Direct next week for this. At which point much of what's in the article will likely be trimmed out for actual details. — Masem (t) 12:50, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

The infobox about the Nintendo Switch 2 does contain the information about its predecessor, but does not contain a hyperlink, it is best practice, and good faith to allow for a hyperlink towards the Nintendo Switch in the predecessor section of the infobox 75.98.203.214 (talk) 12:42, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

It does - the first time its mentioned in the infobox which is under the Backwards Compatibility field. We avoid duplicating links within the infobox otherwise. — Masem (t) 12:49, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

This is correct. See WP:OVERLINK for more info. Sergecross73 msg me 14:06, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

I don’t want to make the edit in case I’m wrong, but I don’t think this system does both at the same time. My reading of the release is that it’ll do 1080p at 120fps, or 4K at 60fps. So it can do both, but not at the sane time. The current cited source for this claim in the article is vague, and doesn’t support “4K at 120fps” as currently worded. 86.144.129.75 (talk) 22:22, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

i can add to this with this note on the Nintendo website and this from eurogamer and I'm sure others Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 11:02, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

You're right. I'll change it. -Kai445 (talk) 22:24, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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GameChat is a VoIP service that will be introduced by Nintendo on June 5 2025, on the Nintendo Switch 2, GameChat will be available to all users from June 5 until March 31 2026, after that date, it will only be available to Nintendo Switch Online Members. 86.99.96.96 (talk) 13:38, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Valorrr (talk) 17:50, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

More than likely GameChat will be covered on the system software page, whether the Switch 2 system software will get its own page or we'll use the existing page, we don't know yet, because very little else about the system software has been revealed, short of the improved eshop, GameChat, and virtual game cards. Masem (t) 18:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

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Under connectivity in the infobox, it would be preferred if | {{Collapsible list came after | title = Dock

instead of before, as it now looks weird.

}} 83.253.16.149 (talk) 13:54, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

 Done yeah that was strange, i notice the og switch page does the same, but no other console does so i assume thats a mistake as well Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

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Pre-orders have been delayed in the US due to tariffs. https://x.com/dexerto/status/1908176655077540128?s=61 Ezlo Jeslan (talk) 22:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Already done This is covered under the Pricing section. GSK (talk • edits) 22:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Considering the Nintendo Switch 2 direct is over, i suggest adding a section for current industry opinion and criticism

mainly to do with hardware and software pricing and just general vibes Zekromisblack (talk) 19:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Probably too soon, outside of pricing. Masem (t) 20:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

I agree with Masem on this. I'd wait for either the console to actually release, or criticism to continue flowing in throughout the rest of the month, before adding such a section. Unnamed anon (talk) 22:24, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Okay, did some thinking and i currently think its WP:TOOSOON

I reckon waiting a month or two to see how things play out would be smart. Zekromisblack (talk) 04:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Feel free to find some WP:VG/S-approved sources and go for it. There's probably not a ton out there yet, considering its been mere hours so far. Sergecross73 msg me 20:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Should we also mention Nintendo being accused of being greedy and anti-consumer here? 2600:4041:528B:ED00:959C:7BF2:1DFF:19E0 (talk) 13:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

"Greedy" probably isn't the right term, but there does seem to be some criticism on the high price of both the hardware and the games. It could be added (if it's not already) if it's in the context of reliable source coverage. (Think things like IGN or Eurogamer articles, not angry YouTube or social media comments.) Sergecross73 msg me 13:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Information on this has already been added, but it could probably be expanded using information from additional sources or additional information from the sources already cited, provided it's WP:DUE of course. silviaASH (inquire within) 13:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that's already a pretty comprehensive summary of the situation, honestly. Sergecross73 msg me 13:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Do these sources work?

• https://gamerant.com/nintendo-switch-2-backlash-employee-reaction/
• https://gamerant.com/nintendo-switch-2-treehouse-livestream-angry-comments/
• https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/gaming/nintendo-switch-2-gamers-boycott-console-high-price-b1220588.html
• https://gamerant.com/nintendo-switch-2-game-prices-players-unhappy/
• https://boingboing.net/2025/04/05/amidst-intense-backlash-nintendo-could-drop-switch-2-price.html
• https://www.ign.com/articles/does-the-price-of-the-switch-2-overshadow-its-reveal
• https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/04/04/nintendo-fans-remain-relentlessly-furious-about-80-switch-2-games/

2600:4041:528B:ED00:D842:1981:F611:888B (talk) 03:05, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Here are more sources:

• https://www.ign.com/articles/former-nintendo-pr-managers-say-switch-2-and-mario-kart-world-price-backlash-a-true-crisis-moment-for-nintendo
• https://screenrant.com/nintendo-switch-2-edition-game-prices-high-reactions/
• https://en.as.com/meristation/news/former-nintendo-employees-react-to-the-backlash-over-the-nintendo-switch-2s-price-a-true-moment-of-crisis-n/
• https://gamingbolt.com/nintendo-was-like-caught-off-guard-by-backlash-to-switch-2-game-pricing-former-nintendo-pr
• https://www.ign.com/articles/why-would-you-make-people-pay-for-that-nintendos-decision-to-charge-for-switch-2-tutorial-game-welcome-tour-sparks-backlash
• https://www.indy100.com/gaming/nintendo-switch-2-games-cost-price-preorder-release
• https://screenrant.com/nintendo-treehouse-switch-2-chat-drop-the-price/

2600:4041:528B:ED00:D03D:6747:5D1:35EA (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to cross check with WP:VG/S, and propose specific content additions with the WP:EDITREQUEST system. Sergecross73 msg me 01:59, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

2-6.5 hours is listed as an "improved battery life" over previous models, but the Wiki page for Nintendo Switch contradicts this showing equivalent and longer lasting battery on the older models. Trainmania100 (talk) 17:13, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it may be a mix up on wording. It's an improved battery if it can last as long as the original Switch with the increased Switch 2 processing power, but you're right, it wouldn't be improved battery life. Sergecross73 msg me 02:06, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

"Select Switch 2 games were announced to be retailing at US$90, which drew additional criticism."

As far as I've seen, there's no Nintendo Switch 2 game retailing at $90 in the US. This came from European prices being announced first and people assumed it would be 1:1 with the US pricing. This could've been cleared up, but the critique was $80 games. KoniverseTwentyFour (talk) 03:59, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes, the general pricing for games is $80USD per many sources like this. The $90 price point are isolated incidents related to retailer or region. Sergecross73 msg me 13:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, Mario Kart World is the only Switch 2 title priced at $80. - Richiekim (talk) 15:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/no-switch-2-games-arent-90-the-internet-is-just-broken-beyond-belief/ - here's a source outlining how this keeps coming up, FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 18:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Nintendo has now announced that pre-orders for the Switch 2 will start April 24th in the U.S. (couldn't find specification but also most likely applies to Canada), can this be reflected on in the article? (specifically when the intro mentions the pre-order delays) https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/nintendo-maintains-nintendo-switch-2-pricing-retail-pre-orders-to-begin-april-24-in-u-s/ Naoskiiiiii (talk) 00:17, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

It's already in the article. Sergecross73 msg me 00:24, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Because I see attempts to re-add it to the lede: the pre-order delay in the US and Canada is a very minor facet at this point. If the release was delayed, that might be something, but the delay on the pre-order is really not a major part of the release, though the issues with cost and the potential impacts of the tariffs are worth discussing later in the article. Masem (t) 02:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

not quite sure where to put this, industry rumours seems done and its not yet confirmed, might just wait until confirmation from nintendo

https://www.videogamer.com/news/surprise-nintendo-switch-2-edition-cartridges-also-work-on-nintendo-switch-1/ Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 08:12, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, one article from VGC based on one company saying something isn't quite good enough for it to be due yet. Best to wait a bit. silviaASH (inquire within) 09:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

https://www.ign.com/articles/rune-factory-guardians-of-azuma-faq-suggests-some-physical-switch-2-cartridges-will-be-playable-on-switch-1 Serouj2000 (talk) 20:25, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Now that there is much more information on the Switch 2, would this qualify for a higher level of importance in the video games wikiproject? Dr. Precursor (talk) 02:37, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

I found this on the web and it appears to be legit.

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2025-nintendo-switch-2-final-tech-specs-and-system-reservations-confirmed

Can someone please modify the page with the new info? I can't at the moment.

Thanks! Urbanracer34 (talk) 14:33, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

via EG Masem (t) 14:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

this is just the videos from DF and are just the same as the other leaks, nothing new officially from nintendo, unless i'm missing something? but given the official specs we got for switch 1 were so nonexistent i dont see why we cant use the videos like this and from others, they clearly have a the motherboards and the "leak" aspect is gonna be pretty mute in a few weeks anyway Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

The headline reads "Nintendo Switch 2: final tech specs and system reservations confirmed" so I wouldn't think they're just talking about the same old leaks as before...? Nintendo rarely announces official specs, so reliable sources reporting on it is usually as good as it gets. Sergecross73 msg me 16:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

They also link to Nintendo page with the specs. Masem (t) 16:14, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

the nintendo page linked is the same one we got on the day of the direct, all the new information i can see in that video comes from the motherboard teardowns made possible by the "leaked" hardware that was acquired by a couple reviewers in the past week or so. not devaluing the usefulness of the source, just be careful when saying that its 'official', much like the official battery life numbers Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 16:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Still, this is Digital Foundry/Eurogamer, a high quality RS. It's fair to say "According to DF..." but these should be used preferably over any other speculated info. Masem (t) 16:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Digital Foundry/Eurogamer didn't do the teardown/analyses, it was done by Kurnalsalts who got the chip from Geekerwan who bought it from whats basically a Chinese eBay.

While I have zero doubt about Kurnalsalts and Geekerwan work, there is no proof that the chip they got is a production/final version of the Switch 2, so these specs actually fail Wikipedia rules, mainly WP:CRYSTALBALL

Regarding the hardware clocks and system reserved resources, I'm not sure what is their source, most likely its a developer who shared SDK info/documentations from Nintendo. Alawadhi3000 (talk) 08:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Are we going to have to wait for a site such as iFixit to do a teardown in order to get some of the specs? Urbanracer34 (talk) 16:25, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

No, even if DF/EG hypothetically didn't do the analysis, it was still published by them, a reliable source, so that still allows for its use. Sergecross73 msg me 16:29, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

The source from eurogamer used for the specs list 998 MHz when docked and 1101 MHz when undocked, on first sight it seems like this should be the other way around.

Some further search got me to a page from techpowerup which lists the 998 MHz when undocked and 1101 MHz when docked, which would make more sense.

Something I'm missing? Didn't want to make an edit without hearing other opinions first Axtlos (talk) 19:06, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Eurogamer/Digital Foundry are correct, the editor at Techpowerup incorrectly flipped the clocks thinking they were wrong, also these clocks are linked to mobile mode and performance mode rather than docked/undocked with performance mode having a lower CPU clock to presumably give more power budget to the GPU. Alawadhi3000 (talk) 00:55, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

The equivalent to "Odin" codename is "Gimle" as evidenced by 2022 NVIDIA leak, datamining and part numer of the SoC (ODNX02-A2 on the original Switch - ODN = Odin, GMLX30-R-A1 on Switch 2 - GML = Gimle).

"Drake" is the codename of T239 SoC, similar to "Erista" or "Mariko". 31.61.189.62 (talk) 19:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

I think there should be a distinct amount about the Switch 2's use of SD express cards. The standard was created more than 5 years ago, but the cards aren't readily available. In fact it seems there is an effective format war between UHS-II, UFS card, and SD-express. All 3 want to be the next generation high-speed SD card, but lack of uses have left the market barren and the predominant standard is UHS-I. I think the Switch 2 will do to memory card formats what the PS3 did to BluRay vs HD-DVD. Only question might be whether this will also cause eUFS to disappear too. 74.104.188.4 (talk) 00:52, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

That seems like huge speculation at this point. It could have an effect but we need to see what happens after release. Masem (t) 01:30, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

It seems too early for anyone to know yet, so you'd be hard pressed to find any reliable sources to support any claims on it (which is a requirement for including any content.) Sergecross73 msg me 01:34, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Given what happened when the PS3 debuted with BluRay and the effect on that format war, if I was a manager involved in memory card production I would take notice. If the Switch 2 is even modestly successful at launch it will have a drastic effect on UHS-II vs UFS Card vs SDexpress. Even though each of those has been around for 5 years, I've never laid eyes on one. Only question is how quickly the newfound popularity of MicroSD Express will cause UHS-II and UFS to disappear; whether the first refresh of the Switch 2 will feature embedded NVMe instead of UFS. 74.104.188.4 (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, certainly seems plausible, but we aren't able to add anything to the article about it unless an IGN or Eurogamer type websites publishes and article about it or something. Sergecross73 msg me 19:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

The microSD Express article (portion of SD card article) already mentions the Nintendo Switch 2. Perhaps the statement is better there, but as long as the Switch 2 is even modestly successful the effect on SDexpress will be drastic. Embedded UFS is rather better established, but the Switch 2 will almost certainly put dramatic pressure there too. 2001:470:8AC4:103:4DD1:510:C65B:64A9 (talk) 02:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

There are definitely past cases of video games and consoles driving other hardware in other uses (the prime example being Myst and the rapidly popularity of CD ROM drives), but we absolutely need sources and its unlikely we'll see them until maybe 6 months past release at best. Masem (t) 04:16, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Indeed, we will need to wait. I'm a bit skeptical of Myst's effect on the roll-out of CD-ROM drives. Many other things were also pushing CD-ROM due to the greater storage.

Myst is a better metaphor in some ways, worse in some ways. In particular CD-ROM was simply an issue of needing greater storage capacity and there weren't any competing formats. Whereas UHS-II versus UFS Card versus MicroSD-express is very much a format war; just all 3 have been stuck lacking any killer app.

So far it seems the launch was successful, now to see whether it sustains. The next thing to wonder is whether an embedded variant of NVMe will show up and start displacing eUFS.

Waiting is unpleasant. 2001:470:8AC4:103:56A7:7DB:3167:F954 (talk) 04:05, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

We have plenty of sources decades since Myst's release that call it the killer app for CD-ROM. That could be the case for the Switch 2 and SD Express cards, but that's not going to likely be the case for several years because it will take time to figure out that connection. That said, there may be short term sources that say that sales of SD Expression cards greatly increased around the time of the Switch 2's release, which we could include, but carefully word it like that (correlation w/o causation) as long as that connection is made by reliable sources. Masem (t) 04:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Although upon Nintendo's official release of the sales numbers they stated that it was the fastest selling Nintendo console, records from previous console generations show that this is also the fastest selling console of all time. Should this not be included in the article? Man-Man122 (talk) 19:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

I'd be careful just using the first four days of sales for larger claims like this. If it sticks after a few months then that would be a metric Masem (t) 19:44, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Understandable. Man-Man122 (talk) 19:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

The infobox for the Nintendo Switch contains the Bluetooth version. Do we know which Bluetooth version the Switch 2 supports? – WikiHelper232 (talk) 10:32, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

it is version 5.2, as per the fcc filings Daniel (strangestuff) (talk) 14:36, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, but in which document did you find the Bluetooth version? I can only find the version for WiFi, but nothing for Bluetooth. WikiHelper232 (talk) 20:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)