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Please include that Tom Fletcher from boy band Mcfly wrote the song 'I Want' that features on One Direction's album 'Up All Night' this is only fair as artists Kelly Clarkson and Ed Sheeran have been given credit.


They were also featured on Daybreak, on Niall's 18th birthday. This is their most noteable feature on Breakfast television. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XJooeyx1D (talk • contribs) 10:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Individual articles?

Of course they haven't released a single or any music, but they are very notable, released autobiographies and a huge fanbase. Don't you think they should have their own articles? 82.46.152.122 (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Siete fantastici,bellissimi,bravissimi


unsigned comment added by 67.167.233.165 (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Redirect or article?

I have just reverted the edit of 13:39, 31 July 2011 by User:AnemoneProjectors, changing this article to a redirect for a second time. According to the guidelines at Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Redirection it was fine to do this once, but it should not have been changed to a redirect a second time:

"Sometimes an unsuitable article may have a title that would make a useful redirect. In these cases, deletion is not required; any user can boldly redirect to another article. If the change is disputed, an attempt should be made on the talk page to reach a consensus before restoring the redirect."

In other words, since the change made is disputed, then to change this article into a redirect (effectively deleting it) then it is necessary to establish a consensus here on the talk page first.

So, for my part I believe the article meets the guidelines set out at WP:Notability (music). In particular, it meets:

  • Clause 1 ("Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself") - lots of coverage in the national newspapers.
  • Clause 9 ("Has won or placed in a major music competition.") - they finished third on last year's X Factor.

I would also take note of WP:Articles for deletion/Eoghan Quigg, which is in a similar position (third place X Factor candidate, discussion before he released any records). Although the deletion was hotly debated, it was in the end closed as a keep. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 09:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Would you really like articles about every single X Factor finalist? They could all satisfy both clauses. That's why we decided, BY CONSENSUS, to ignore clause 9 in these cases, as these articles would be unnecessary until such time as a finalist had become notable for some other reason. This applies to One Direction. I'm sure Quigg isn't the only article to have been up for AFD, I am sure others have not survived. Stacey Solomon did not have an article until she won I'm A Celebrity..., not even during the time she was on the show. Other finalists have only had an article when they had a second reason for notability, excluding Jedward because they had MASSIVE amounts written about them during the series, more than any other finalist in the show's history, and Cher Lloyd, whose creation I continued to dispute, but could not go against consensus in the end, plus her single is out now so there's little point sending her article to AFD. The list entries for all the finalists satisfy GNG, so we should always wait until a contestant becomes notable for a second thing, outside of just reporting that someone is due to have a musical career. –anemoneprojectors– 14:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
No, I wouldn't have an article for every X Factor contestant because most don't satisfy the criteria for being notable outside of the reality format. However, One Direction are clearly more than that. Eight months on from the X Factor, everyone has heard of them, they have appeared on Alan Carr chatty man, their Facebook page has 612,000 fans. The list goes on. So rather than applying arbitrary rules for X Factor contestants, which are themselves already in contradiction with the WP:Notability (music) rules, we should use common sense.
Personally I am no fan of 1D - in a format which already specialises in manufactured pop, they are manufactured-squared, due to being just an amalgamation of those who failed as solo artists. But WP is not about our personal preferences, it's about reflecting the world at large. And in the world at large they are very notable. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 20:12, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
The article as it stands right now doesn't really demonstrate their notability outside of The X Factor. A TV interview doesn't really add to that, neither does the number of Facebook fans. I personally think we should wait until close to the release of their single. At the moment, it's a lot of blank information and a list of X Factor performances, which, to be honest, is just filler material. –anemoneprojectors– 11:33, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

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Edit request from Rebeccalaura, 4 September 2011

i want to change it back as its been vandalised, with harsh comments after the band members names

Rebeccalaura (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks for letting us know--Jac16888 Talk 21:11, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 90.213.66.176, 12 September 2011

They came 1st in the charts for their single 'What Makes You Beautiful'

90.213.66.176 (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 20:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
In addition to that, the single only just came out this week so won't have charted until this Sunday in the UK. –anemoneprojectors– 13:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Natzloveu, 16 September 2011

I would like to edit the one direction page because i would like to make a page for each seperate boy member .After i have competed there pages i will block it off from edits because of biography reason . So please un block so i can do this.


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Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. — Bility (talk) 18:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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Edit request from Jamieprkr00, 22 September 2011

One Direction are launching a new mobile phone. I would suggest that since the site already highlights an affiliation with the Pokemon brand, this project is equally relevant. I would just suggest a sentence like this somewhere:

'In September 2011, One Direction were revealed to be launching a new mobile phone with Nokia for sale from October'. You could use the following link as a source.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150303219636523.343179.143841031522&type=1

If more detail was desired you could use the quote Liam provided: Liam Payne said: "Our fans are always on their phones, so we thought this would be a great thing to do. It's the first time fans have had a chance to have a phone customised by their favourite band."

This is the source: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23988450-one-direction-left-feeling-blue-after-video-shoot.do

Jamieprkr00 (talk) 13:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Done — Bility (talk) 20:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Blablablabla00

There is a Dutch One Direction page too, maybe the link to it should be in this? Blablablabla00 (talk) 17:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

The Dutch page has been deleted. –anemoneprojectors– 13:11, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Needing a lot of citation

Yeah, links are needed verily. -Vaarsivius ("You've made a glorious contribution to science.") 21:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 21 November 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Where the charts for One Directions singles are listed, can the chart position from australia please be changed? What makes you beautiful is currently at #5 here, but it is still listed as peak position being #10. Thanks

Mollyaus (talk) 07:08, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Please could you give a reference to a reliable source, and ask again. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  07:49, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 22 November 2011

Please change Louis Tomlinson's birthday to 24 December, 1991, because Feb 1 is not his birthday. Thank you!

Deancas (talk) 03:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. According to whom is his birthday 1 February? —C.Fred (talk) 03:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Birthday of Louis Tomlinson

On the One Direction wikipedia page, someone has edited the page and I have noticed that Louis Tomlinson is incorrect. It should say that his birthday is on 24 December, 1991 NOT 1 February 1994. Thanks (this is according to google and IMDB and i'm pretty sure they're correct.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelleempire (talk • contribs) 08:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 23 November 2011

PLEASE CHANGE

Please change

Harry Styles

Harry Styles (born 1 February 1994)

to...

Louis Tomlinson

Louis Tomlinson (born 24 December 1991)


Hannahbutton (talk) 23:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Done used this as a source, which states that he is 20 on 24 December 2011. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:37, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 23:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:One Direction/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Issues:

  • Lede: Which X Factor series is it? UK, U.S.?
The british version (which they were on) is the orginal, Better now? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Lede: One Direction have been described as sparking a resurgence in the boy band concept → One Direction has been described as sparking a resurgence in the boy band concept. Has rather than have
Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
I have placed it in the One Direction#See also section now like Lady Gaga#See also article AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
  • References: Ref. 2 - This uses different date format than other. This uses 2012-05-11, but others would be like this May 11, 2012. Please stick to one method format for references
  • References: Ref. 4 & 7 & 15 & 97, various others - # 4 is italic for Digital Spy and # 7, # 15 isn't. Please make it italic on # 7. Again, stick to one method format.
  • References: Ref. 14 - Same ref uses different method for each part. Stick to one!
  • References: Various - Please stick to one method
  • References: Ref. 112 - Digitalspy.co.uk → Digital Spy

Again, stick to one format. Good work otherwise. On hold. TBrandley 23:24, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm will now work on the refs, thanks for your time AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
  • The review is not complete. There are many other problems regarding the references. Till 06:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Thank you for noting. There are tons including:
  • References: Don't need area for "Sources for Edwards and Malik relationship"
  • References: Don't need area for "Sources for Payne and Peazer relationship"
  • References: Don't need area for "Sources for Tomlinson and Calder relationship"
  • References: Ref. 123 - Make Digital Spy italic like this Digital Spy
  • References: Various ref needs linking in section
  • References: Ref. 161 - "BBC - Harry Styles has got the X Factor in Holmes Chapel" → "Harry Styles has got the X Factor in Holmes Chapel"
  • References: Various formatting. Please stick to one. Please check for more than just above.

Thanks, TBrandley 16:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I have converted all the refs AdabowtheSecond (talk) 20:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
now there are two kinds of refs for example;

^ Sophie Freeman (19 November 2010). "Now Treyc Cohen snubbed by X Factor for £100,000 tour... but reject Aiden Grimshaw IS invited". UK: Daily Mail. Retrieved 19 November 2010. ^ ^ "No Change Of Direction". Chart track. 7 October 2012. Retrieved 31 March 2012.

this is because when a article/ref doesn't give an author in the article the date goes; "7 October 2012. Retrieved 31 March 2012." but when a an author is given its like this; "Sophie Freeman (19 November 2010). "Now Treyc Cohen snubbed by X Factor for £100,000 tour... but reject Aiden Grimshaw IS invited". UK: Daily Mail. Retrieved 19 November 2010."

  • Most of the references are missing publishers. Digital Spy shouldn't be in italics, it's a website. Till 01:50, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
is that necessary Katy Perry article passed GA and their are barely publishers given AdabowtheSecond (talk) 02:26, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
The Katy Perry article might have to be reassessed. The references are a mess. Till 02:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
I might go into a hefty denial right now spent hours converting refs and now this *sigh eating chocolate ice cream now*, how long do is still have to add publishers and all AdabowtheSecond (talk) 02:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Ref. #1 --> Publisher is Intent Media.
  • Ref. #2 --> Daily Mirror in italics, and Trinity Mirror shouldn't be in italics. Also, you can remove the 'London' bit. It's not needed.
  • Ref. #3 --> Work is Digital Spy (it shouldn't be in italics) and publisher is Hachette Filipacchi Médias. ---> it isn't Hachetter anymore as per wiki page "On 1 August 2011, ownership of Hachette UK was sold to Hearst Magazines UK".
  • Ref. #4 --> Publisher is Wenner Media.
  • Ref. #6 --> Publisher is Media Wales
  • Ref #7 --> same as #3
  • Ref #8 --> STV shouldn't be in italics, and publisher is STV Group.
  • Ref #9 --> Link The Guardian, and the publisher is Guardian Media Group.
  • Ref #10 --> Link The Sun, and publisher is News International.

See what I mean? The references really need work. I'm not going to go through every single one. Btw the article needs to be trimmed down to a readable size. Till 03:04, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

the former i have just trimmed severly today what do yuo suggest needs trimming. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 03:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
You have to remove most of the information about Muslim in Zayn's section. It's not relevant, and violates WP:WWIN. The same goes for Liam getting bullied. Till 03:26, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
"Kari Huus from msnbc.com, felt it is, "likely to alienate some conservative Muslims and [that it] has already sparked the wrath of at least one well known anti-Muslim conservative in the US." Nevertheless Wajahat Ali, a San Francisco-based screenwriter who is a practicing Muslim, felt Malik represents progress. "It is empowering for Muslims worldwide to see the success of a pop star who also happens to be Muslim. It sends that message that a person can be respected for their talent, and their "Musliminess" will not exclude them from the public arena and culture," said Ali. "It's also good business. You have a Muslim in a five-person boy band… and you have captured an audience of Muslim girls worldwide." Zudhi Jasser, an American Muslim who frequently warns of Islamic radicalization, commented, "I would say all the power to him to be respectful to his faith and be proud of it," said Jasser. But he also notes that conservative Islamists would likely frown on many aspects of Malik's behavior — his smoking, tattoos, ear piercings, and song lyrics — that "while saccharine — probably would not be seen to glorify God." The screenwriter said that even if more conservative Muslims do not agree with Malik's behavior, he could help expand the artistic boundaries for young Muslims. "What we have seen in the last 10 years is that you can be an artist who is Muslim and can be practicing and doing art that is inspired by your beliefs, but does not have to be overtly Islamic or using religious language," he said. "A guy like Zayn Malik can really help open those minds and convey that as a generation we are moving ahead."[149]" This whole thing has to go. Commentary from editors isn't needed here. Till 03:28, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much for you help with the review, Till. Thanks again! --TBrandley 04:25, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:). Till 08:43, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
  • "he eventually found his place on the cross country running team, coming first "From then on I was training all the time and getting up at 6am to run for miles. At the age of 12 they put me in the school's under-18s team."[133]"
  • "saying he "needed to find a way to defend myself, I was, at 12 years old, fighting the 38-year-old trainer. I broke my nose, had a perforated eardrum and I was always coming home with a bruised, puffy face. But it gave me confidence. I got pretty good over the next couple of years."
  • "In 2011, he commented, "I went and told my parents and my teachers, but it [the bullying] didn't stop so I had to sort it out myself. I was in year eight and they were sixth-formers. I got this guy I knew, who was in his early twenties, to pretend to be my big brother and pick me up from school."[150] In 2012, in an interview with The New Zealand Herald on advocating how to deal with bullying, Payne stated, "you have to tell someone", adding "you have to stand up to it, you make yourself a target, you make yourself easy to be picked on and just let things happen, that's what happens, but when you do something, you're active about it, you make sure something's being done about it then it will slowly stop."[151]"

These also need removal. It's reading like a diary. Till 08:43, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

i'm back! So how many days left do i have to fix all this??? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 19:28, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
so i added publisher to every ref anymore violations `AdabowtheSecond (talk) 23:50, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Everything looks good :D just be sure to make the online sources (such as MTV and STV) to not be in italics, as they are not newspapers. But all the others look good. Till 01:19, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. TBrandley 01:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Yaymeee :D AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:25, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for chiming in, but I wonder if there's a guide somewhere about that publisher vs work thing in references. I can't seem to find any and I don't fully grasp the concept, what goes in "publisher" and what goes in "work"?--Krystaleen 08:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
go to the magazine, websites wikipedia page it says under which publishing company it runs AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:48, 1 July 2012 (UTC)L
Sorry for hold up. It will pass now. TBrandley 17:06, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
;D thanks for your time. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 17:19, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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