Talk:One Griswold Street/GA1
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Nominator: JJonahJackalope (talk · contribs) 22:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Snugglebuns (talk · contribs) 08:22, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
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Discussion
- Authorship: 95.9%
- Earwig: 11.5%
Gonna get started, I should have some comments for you by tomorrow. Snuggle📫 08:22, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- I did a quick copy edit to fix some small mistakes. I'll do a more thorough read-through tomorrow. Snuggle📫 09:56, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Apologies for the delay, time keeps getting away from me. I'm going to finish this review today. I'll ping when I'm done. Snuggle📫 21:29, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: I actually don't have any other comments. The tone throughout is solid. Everything is cited well. I'd like to see more information about it prior to 2007 but there's not much we can do if there aren't sources for it. The pictures are well chosen. I fixed the one broken archive link and marked the curbed urls as dead. I always appreciate when someone already has all of the sources archived. Snuggle📫 22:09, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
- @Snugglebuns:, apologies for the late response to this review, but to address your second point in the above table, I was unable to find substantial sources discussing the building prior to its purchase by the Church of Scientology, which seemed to be the topic of most of the discussion concerning the building. I will keep an eye open for sources, however, and will add more information if and when I find good sources on its earlier history. Concerning your third point, I have rephrased that section from "an extensive renovation" to just simply "a renovation". Please let me know if there are any additional questions, comments, or concerns you have regarding this article, and thank you for initiating this review! -JJonahJackalope (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: sucks about not having info for before it was purchased by Scientology but I figured it was a bit of a longshot anyways. I did a few searches to see if I could find anything about the history of the building and didn't find much other than pictures and info that you already have. Anything else I could point out would be nit-picking for the purpose of nit-picking. Looks good.
- @Snugglebuns:, apologies for the late response to this review, but to address your second point in the above table, I was unable to find substantial sources discussing the building prior to its purchase by the Church of Scientology, which seemed to be the topic of most of the discussion concerning the building. I will keep an eye open for sources, however, and will add more information if and when I find good sources on its earlier history. Concerning your third point, I have rephrased that section from "an extensive renovation" to just simply "a renovation". Please let me know if there are any additional questions, comments, or concerns you have regarding this article, and thank you for initiating this review! -JJonahJackalope (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: I actually don't have any other comments. The tone throughout is solid. Everything is cited well. I'd like to see more information about it prior to 2007 but there's not much we can do if there aren't sources for it. The pictures are well chosen. I fixed the one broken archive link and marked the curbed urls as dead. I always appreciate when someone already has all of the sources archived. Snuggle📫 22:09, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
- Apologies for the delay, time keeps getting away from me. I'm going to finish this review today. I'll ping when I'm done. Snuggle📫 21:29, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
Review by section
– Issues that need to be resolved to pass the review.
– Issues I see outside of the criteria that are optional but would be great to address.
– No longer an issue.
| No. | Section | Criteria status | Excerpt | Suggestion |
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| 1 | citations | 2 | Sources: 5, 6, 9, 14, and 15 (all the Curbed sources) | The Curbed.Detroit site is down for me, not sure if it's dead or just down temporarily. If they are perma-dead, it would be nice to go through and mark them all as dead since you already have the archive links for them. |
| 2 | History | 3a | Is there any other information about the building before it was purchased by Scientology? It feels like the article is somewhat dominated by the Scientology information. | |
| 3 | Lead | 1b | Between 2017 and 2018, the building underwent an extensive renovation that restored much of its interior appearance, including a grand staircase and mezzanine for the first and second floors. | Not necessarily a problem, but extensive compared to what? I think the point that is being made could be made just as well with the removal of the word or replacing it with the $8 million figure. By no means a required change. |
Source spotcheck
This table checks 8 passages from throughout the article (17.4% of 46 total passages). These passages contain 13 inline citations (20.3% of 64 in the article). Generated with the Veracity user script. Snuggle📫 08:22, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
| Reference # | Letter | Source | Archive | Status | Notes |
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| The site is historically notable as the location of the first church founded in the city of Detroit, Ste. Anne de Detroit, established by French explorer Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac in 1701. | |||||
| 2 | b | freep.com | web.archive.org |  | |
| 6 | a | detroit.curbed.com | web.archive.org | | |
| A historical marker for the church is present at the site, | |||||
| 2 | c | freep.com | web.archive.org | | |
| The exterior corner facing the intersection has a large street clock attached to the building. | |||||
| 10 | b | crainsdetroit.com | web.archive.org | | |
| As such, it was also known as the Standard Savings Building. | |||||
| 4 | e | crainsdetroit.com | web.archive.org | | |
| 9 | e | detroit.curbed.com | web.archive.org | | |
| 14 | a | detroit.curbed.com | web.archive.org | | |
| The organization had had a presence in the Detroit area since 1963 and originally operated a facility along James Couzens Highway, though at the time of the purchase, the organization's main site in the area was in nearby Farmington Hills, Michigan. | |||||
| 17 | a | freep.com | web.archive.org | | |
| 18 | freep.com | web.archive.org | | ||
| By 2015, the building was still vacant and unused. | |||||
| 14 | c | detroit.curbed.com | web.archive.org | | |
| On October 7, 2018, the building was dedicated in a private ceremony led by the Church of Scientology's leader David Miscavige and attended by about 2,000 spectators. | |||||
| 13 | b | detroitnews.com | web.archive.org | | |
| 7 | d | crainsdetroit.com | web.archive.org | | |
| According to Church of Scientology representative Karin Pouw, the organization would be the sole tenant of the building, but would host activities from nonprofit and community organizations free of charge. | |||||
| 7 | e | crainsdetroit.com | web.archive.org | | |
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