Talk:Paramore/Archive 3

Paramore recently had an interview posted in CCM magazine. Does this make them "Christian"? Is there anyway to try and confirm this or possibly add a section to the page? Alec Marshall 7:43 Central Time 1-17-10

I know people are arguing this, and its true. Why are people putting them as emo when thats a stereotype? Is wikipedia retarded or something? Sorry but some people need to know their stuff.--NicoX448 (talk) 19:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

• Paramore THEMSELVES stated they were emo, as did SEVERAL reliable sources, so you're trying to tell me you know more than professional music reviewers? Emo IS a type of music and Paramore, Panic! at the Disco, and Fall Out Boy are all emo bands.

Emorocker777 (talk • contribs)

on paramores myspace they label themselves as alternative / pop. so shouldnt we get rid of all this emo shit and just put them as pop and alternative?

Let's tone down on the cussing, please. people of all ages are on here reading it. Type Wisely! all i got to say is that. -dog lvr12 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dog lvr 12 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

PARAMORE IS ALTERNATIVE!

If I label myself as a catholic priest it doesn't make me a member of the clergy. The way things are written on Wikipedia is based on what third party, reliable sources say about the band, not what the band says about itself. Since third-party sources describe it as emo, we go with emo. Ironholds (talk) 22:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't you think the current genres are a little much? I understand that sources call them all of those genres but maybe we can condense it to Alternative Rock, Pop Punk (seeing as pop rock and powerpop kinda go hand in hand here), and EMO, these are all sourced and maybe just put in the article that sources call them Pop rock and Powerpop? Just an idea. Terminus777 (talk) 22:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I reverted the change.T.tyrael (talk) 14:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

paramore is pop have you not heard decode? its pop man —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.84.143 (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

So, everyone agrees Paramore isn't emo. Yeah, true. But they aren't alternative. Maybe alternative pop, but I want to get things straight that Paramore have ABSOLUTELY NO

-> Emo -> Punk -> Rock -> Rap —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.100.194 (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Influences. OK? ELLOS NO SON EMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.131.167 (talk) 01:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I understand that everyone cares about the genre but as long as they keep producing great music (I love paramore lol) then their genre shouldn't be the most important thing!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxRideObsessed (talk • contribs) 16:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

They are not an emo band the are pop punk and thats the end of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonrock (talk • contribs) 17:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Paramore is awsome and they will always be the best. They have won so many awards that it isn't funny. 9 awards have been won by them. They are alternative rock, too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.246.2.10 (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

They are not alternative, or emo. Emo is an old type of metal that died out years ago, it no longer exists, because idiots like these wreck it, turning emo into pop. Not even pop punk. I mean, can you see any similarities between Sex Pistols and Paramore? No. I agree with the person that wrote this:

Emo is a faster, more agresive style of punk that broke off in the 80's and died in the 90's. The words were not sung clearly and the music's intention was emotion over melody. Just because the members have emo influences (SDRE and Mineral), they are not emo. Can you honestly say their is any "punk" influence in Paramore? The sources imply Panic! At the Disco and Fall Out Boy are emo (Which shows a horrible misunderstanding of the misinterpreted genre, emotional-hardcore) and are all articles by other people who have no idea what emo really is. Please change it. This band does not fall in with CaP'n Jazz and Rites of Spring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.157.208 (talk) 05:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. We cite genres that can be verified by reliable sources, and several reliable sources define this band as emo. Please see our no original research policy. My point is, your opinion (or any editors for that matter) is irrelevant. Landon1980 (talk) 05:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Apparently NME, the NY Times and Rolling Stone don't know about music now. --neon white talk 10:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

They don't. Especially music that isn't commercial or mainstream (for example: emo).Supahshadow (talk) 21:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I am sure paramore aren't emo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.250.202 (talk) 09:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

If the author of the article doesn't have knowledge of the 80's punk sub-subgenre, then probably not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.129.85 (talk) 22:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, OK, OK, OK...

They are not alternative rock, maybe alternative pop, yes. But you're pathetic. Once you are about 17, 18, you will realise that they're not. Look, I'm an 11 year-old girl, and I've learnt that already. Cerysluvesnirvana (talk) 11:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

They are definitly not true emo. However, pop is out of the question as well. They are ALTERNATIVE ROCK! They have songs from Pop Rock, Ska Rock, Punk Rock, Emo, and a lot of genres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dp2007 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Dp2007, and welcome to Wikipedia. We go by reliable sources on what genres to list, not our own personal opinions. The genre emo has several reliable sources, hence it stays. As far as adding other genres, be sure and cite the addition with a reliable source. Have a good day. Landon1980 (talk) 17:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And where is a reliable source that says they are emo? Listen to their new album... --Dem467 (talk) 12:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

if u listen to them u wud now its not emo  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.53.97.2 (talk) 02:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

ITUNES HAS CLASSED PARAMORE AS ALTERNATIVE-PUNK-ROCK, ALTERNATIVE-ROCK, AND ROCK. NO EMO, THAT DOESNT EXIST, AND THEY ARE NOT POP. ITUNES IS PRETTY MUCH THE DECISIVE SOURCE.--WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

One source does not override another. Sources say emo, we go with emo. You can't just say "I disagree so i'm going to do whatever the hell i want to the page." We have multiple sources saying POP PUNK, not pop, and EMO. So well you really need to get over being mad. Terminus777 (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Im sorry, i didnt mean to sound mad, i didnt realise id typed in caps. Can i see the source that says they're emo...i wont change it again, but id like to see anyway. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright that's fine. Near the bottom of the page, Musical Style, it says they are commonly classified as Emo and Pop punk with just a few of many references, and even a quote or two saying so. I wasn't trying to be rude, it's just for whatever reason people want to do what they want to this article, without any facts to it." Terminus777 (talk) 04:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Is there no way to increase the protection from Semi? --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 08:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There most likely is, and personally i think it should happen ASAP. It's kind of idiotic that people think their opinion overrides sources. Terminus777 (talk) 04:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, Paramore aren't alternative rock. You are out of your mind. Really. Why can't little girls listening to childish rock grow up? Look, I'm an 11 year-old girl, and I love Nirvana, Foo Fighters etc... not this sort of rubbish. It's NOT alternative rock. NOT!!!!! It's pop, pop rock or pop punk on a good day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerysluvesnirvana (talk • contribs) 11:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Nirvana and Foo Fighters are shit-rock, these aren't much better but hey.

According to the official website, the lineup is as follows:-

• Vocals: Hayley
• Bass: Jeremy
• Guitar: Josh
• Drums: Zac

According to their myspace page, it's...

• Zac: drums
• Hayley: vocals
• Josh: guitar
• Jeremy: bass
• Ylaizah: guitar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.199.93 (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Where are the reliable sources stating that Taylor York is a member? If sources can't be provided, the material can't be added to the article. See our Verifiability policy for more on this. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 21:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

This is the only source I know of covering the issue. It says, Shortly before the release of RIOT!, it was announced that Hunter Lamb would be leaving the band to spend time with his fiancée and would be temporarily replaced by Taylor York. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 21:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd only list him only as a temporary touring member if he hasnt recorded with them. --neon white talk 15:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Taken from Paramore Fan Club Site

EVERYONE!!!! The members of Paramore have a special announcement to make:

We recognize the fact that it’s way overdue. Oh well. Today is the day. The four of us (Hayley, Zac, Josh and Jeremy) are proud to announce that Taylor York, a touring member of Paramore for over 2 years, is now an official member of the band!

In case you don’t know… and you probably don’t… Taylor has been around since the very early days of Paramore. Perhaps even before we began. He actually helped write some of our “fan-favorite” songs such as “Conspiracy” off our debut record, All We Know Is Falling and “That’s What You Get” from RIOT! So as you can see, there really isn’t anyone else we could find who would fit in quite the same.

So, without further ado, we give you… the newest and final addition to Paramore:

TAYLOR BENJAMIN YORK :l

Hope this clear up that taylor is official!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.197.252.196 (talk) 04:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Most of this section that was recently addedis unreferenced. The only "news" source that I could find for the song "Pressure" being in Sims 2 was here. I'm not sure if this source will pass the Wikipedia muster though. Thoughts/opinions/other sources?

The rest that states "'Misery Business' is also featured in Saint's Row 2, and the soundtrack for EA Sports NHL 08. The music video for 'Decode', along with the Twilight film trailer, was shown in the North American Home Theater of PlayStation Home from December 11, 2008 to December 18, 2008. The song 'Born For This' was featured in the game'We Cheer' on Nintendo Wii." needs to be sourced as well. Wikiwikikid (talk) 21:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

People keep adding information about a supposed forthcoming album, one even gave a specific date. The only reference I could find for their album coming out on that date is a Paramore Fansite article that claims to be a yet to be published Rolling Stones article. This probably is not an appropriate source though. Also, while I did not (initially) remove the TBA (2009) album, the Wikipedia automatic filter for WP:CRYSTAL popped up a warning saying not to list To Be Announced albums under the albums as wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I guess that makes sense, as it's possible that something could come up to delay or even cancel the release. I don't think it would be problematic to under the 2008-Present section saying that they are "planning" to release an album in 2009 (or whenever) as long as it is properly cited. Opinions? Wikiwikikid (talk) 16:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

You can add whatever you want about the upcoming album as long as it is cited with a reliable source, just make sure no one puts TBA. Landon1980 (talk) 02:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, the TBA thing is what I've been fighting against. Well, that and the lack of proper citation. Thanks for your input. Wikiwikikid (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I put it back up except with sources this time. I don't know how else to list it other than how I did. The album is finished, has been mixed, and two of the new songs have even been played live already. They as of now still don't have a title for it, but despite that I feel it should be listed. Once they give it a title I'll put it in. Captain.corporate 20:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how you "feel"... Try adding a To Be Announced album and you'llb e given the warning automatically... Read WP:CRYSTAL... Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. The discography, by definition, is a list of the released albums attributed to a group. The forthcoming album is included in the text of the article (where it is already cited and can remain), but it doesn't belong in discography. Sorry... Wikiwikikid (talk) 20:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not a "to be announced" album, its a near finished album with no name and a set release date. Theres a huge difference. Are you even a real fan? Do read any articles or the live journal? Captain.corporate 20:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain.corporate (talk • contribs)

Think about your own statement... the name of the album has not been announced. Further, we know when they PLAN to release it, but we cannot accept this as fact. Again, read WP:CRYSTAL. Me being a fan is irrelevant. I am an unbiased editor, which IS relevant. In fact, for neutral point of view (see WP:NPOV), it's probably best that someone who is NOT an avid fan edit. To be clear, I do not read their live journal, as this isn't usually going to be an acceptable source for wikipedia. I do, however, read many music (specifically Christian music) news articles. Wikiwikikid (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

(OD) Echoing Wikiwikikid, please wait until the name of the album is released. Doing anything other than that is not very encyclopedic. Landon1980 (talk) 05:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

ok paramore is definently alternative not this crap about pop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.15.5 (talk) 23:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

it doesn't matter what you think. it matters what the sources say... Wikiwikikid (talk) 02:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Please do not speculate about possible titles for the third album based on internet rumours and blogs. This is an encyclopedia not a rumour site. We only accept reliable sources for such info. --neon white talk 14:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Neon, good catch. I forgot to actually look at the references provided on those. Also, the album is not in discography until it is released (not direceted at you Neon). Wikiwikikid (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know there have been many reliable sources that have announced paramore's new album like http://www.spin.com/articles/paramore-announce-more-album-details and http://www.paramore.net/postDetails/2009/06/26/brand-new-eyes/ and http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/paramore_brand_new_eyes_details.html, so now we know that the so called vandalism is the truth, it just wasn't sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nellygirl13 (talk • contribs)

Right. The announcement on paramore.net makes this official as far as I'm concerned. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 20:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

the vandalism claims are still true for people intentionally putting the album under discography. the album is not in the discography until it is officially released. in fact, wikipedia has a filter built in so that if you TRY to put "TBA" as an album in discography it warns you not to. Obviously, the filter is not smart enough to know if an actual named album has been released yet, but this is in violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Wikiwikikid (talk) 04:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Announcements in blogs months before a release has to be treated carefully, album titles have been known to change multiple times in the weeks leading up to offical statements, it could change considerably in 3 months. We should always wait for an official announced by the label. --neon white talk 23:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Paramore is Punk/Rock they are not pop and they are moste definitely not emo, they're awesom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.246.248 (talk) 12:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

since i am not authorized to edit any Paramore articles because they are locked i hope to catch someones attention who does have the authorization, so they can correct the poor and inaccurate information about Hayley Williams personal life.

it has been confirmed by both Hayley Williams herself and Chad Gilbert of New Found Glory that they are in a romantic relationship. chad has come out and said it in interviews, and hayley is always posting things about him on her personal twitter, calling him her bf. anyone with half a brain knows that means boyfriend. SOURCES: ^{[1] [2]}

in hayleys personal section, it says she is friends with the Cyrus family. when asked about how she felt about Miley Cyrus and her fame in an interview she actually said that she didnt know Miley too well and is actually friends with her sister Brandi Cyrus SOURCES:

there has obviously been the rummor that hayley was also romantically linked to fellow band mate Josh Farro, a picture is worth a thousand words and a picture of them kissing has been leaked onto the net, what more proof do you need? SOURCES: very easy to find on the net, look for it.

she has also confirmed numorous times that she does not plan on breaking away from the band to persue a solo carrer. SOURCES: ^[3]

she also puts a lot of focus on the fact that paramore is a band, not just herself. she also does not like being compared, or 'comparamored' to other female fronted bands, or solo artists. such as avril lavigne demi lavato gwen stafani <---when she went off to be a solo artist, many thought she would do the same hey monday no doubt versaemerge and much more. SOURCES: ^[4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.101.22 (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, a few things, the Hayley/Chad thing, has already been discussed, and it was decided (a little while ago) that it will not be added until someone brings a real and reliable source. As for the Cyrus family thing, well, even if she isn't friends with Miley, she is still friends with her sister. The section never said she was friends with Miley, just that she was friends with the family. As for the Josh Farro thing, I don't think a picture that was "leaked" onto the internet is the best source to follow, simply because pictures can be fake and Wikipedia is not for internet rumors, as far as I can tell they've never dated. Until she (or one of the other band members) state out right that they were involved I don't think it should be added. Also, I don't see how her not wanted to be compared to other solo artist is relavent. But if anyone else has any thoughts on this feel free to bring them up. Emo777 (talk) 09:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay(: Well as far as im concerned with the relationship between them, and the two links i provided. the first one was an interview with Chad himself, and the second is Hayleys personal twitter (confermation on their offical myspace and a blog on her offical live journal page) who is more reliable source then those people themselves. their relationship is real, they have both come out about it. they just like to keep it low key, witch again can be found in interviews (with both chad and hayley- and again both reliable sources). and as for the miley cyrus thing, your right. i just thought it would be more accurate to say shes friends with mileys older sister, and thats how she meet them. i supose your right, they both denied the relationship so i guess it just shouldne be messed around with- regardless of the relationship being real or just some made up story. hahahahahha yeah your so right about the "comparimoring" and its relevance(if thats even a word). thanks your writing back to me, and for not being rood while correcting me.

Don't mention it, I would recommend bring up the relationship on the Hayley Williams talk page. But, i'll try and get it done as soon as possible. Thanks again for the sources. Emo777 (talk) 14:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Please direct your attention to the October 2009 issue of Alternative Press. In the interview, it confirms that Hayley and josh were dating until 2007 when they decided they didnt want it to interfere with their music. It also states that Hayley is now dating Chad from New Found Glory. Conflict between Hayley and Josh about Hayley dating chad caused them to cancel their remaining shows of their tour in early 2008 --Dem467 (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Since this article is locked I can't edit it so I'm posting this to catch the eye of someone who can. I suggest that there be links to the individual album pages under the heading. An example of this can be found here: [] Thanks.--68.34.107.140 (talk) 05:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Done!:) Emo777 (talk) 14:36, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Lets get a better photo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightwyrex (talk • contribs) 15:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The article states "Once the group learned the meaning of the homonym paramour ("secret lover"), they decided to adopt the name, using the Paramore spelling."

Actually, Paramore and paramour are homophones, not homonyms. Homophones are words that sound the same, but are spelled (or mean) differently. Homonyms are words that are spelled the same, but have different meanings.

This should be corrected by someone with access to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verimius (talk • contribs) 21:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

why is it that only Hayley Williams has her own page? dont get me wrong i admire and respect her very much; but Paramore is more than just Hayley. I think Josh Farro, Jeremy Davis, Zac Farro, and Taylor York are all valid members of Paramore that work very hard and should get some type of recognition. and since im not a member of wiki i cant add new pages, or even edit the paramore article so im hoping someone does something about this because the other band members are also very much a part of Paramore.

People have to pass certain guidelines to have articles - for musicians, these are found at WP:COMPOSER. Alternately they can pass the standard requirements found at WP:BIO. Hayley Williams passes these where the other band members don't because she's been independently covered by the media, won several awards (admittedly for stupid things like Sexiest Female Musician) and has done work with other bands. It doesn't mean her contribution to Paramore is more than that of the other band members, just that the media pay more attention to her, probably just because she's hot and female. Ironholds (talk) 23:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I guess thats true, although i am very dissapointed that just because the media decides to pay more attention to Hayley that sometimes people just decide to disregard the other members of the band. Josh also has a huge part in it, he helps out with the lyrics and composition of the music (so i have heard). But i supose thats never going to be enoupgh for anyone.

That's how wikipedia works - material needs to be verifiable to be included. The entire reason notability guidelines are based on available sources is so we can create a verifiable article about something/someone based on ironclad sources. If nobody mentions or talks about anyone else in enough detail to write an article, not only does it not pass WP:BIO but we can't reaaaally even write an article on the person. Something to take up with the media, not us. Ironholds (talk) 22:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I have made a table of paramore songs (not completed) here - List of Paramore songs. can someone alow me to edit the Paramore page so that i can put the link on here? Parafan 2 (talk) 06:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

err sorry but alot of that list is incorrect:

-Adore, Another Day, Hello Hello, Just Like Me, & My Number 1 are not paramore, they're songs Hayley recorded pre-paramore, by herself (she said so in a lj comment)

-also Throwing Punches has never been released by paramore (not even as a demo), it leaked, and the band expressed wishes for fans not to download/listen/distribute it (also said in a lj comment) so i think you should remove it :) (the same is with Swim In Silence)

-Its not Circle, it's This Circle (this is confirmed on the bands lj) also This Circle was released as part of the FBR Winter Sampler '06, it's a demo

-Its not Let This Go, its Never Let This Go (this was the songs title on the tracklisting on the back of all we know is falling)

-Decode is not on the US edition of brand new eyes, its only on the international/EU/UK versions

-Temporary was a demo paramore released on Riot (FBR Webstore version)

-Rewind was also a demo released on Riot (Best Buy/iTunes UK version)

-Sunday Bloody Sunday was released on some versions of Misery Business (single)

-Oh Star is actually O Star, (this was what the song's title was on the tracklisting on the back of The Summer Tic EP) , and you have "Emergencysingle" (without the space, and it links to the "Emergency" page rather than paramore's Emergency Single page.

-Stop This Song was also released on Riot, (Japanese version & Best Buy/iTunes UK version) and i think you should change it's album to Riot, as Riot was the first to have Stop This Song on it.

-My Hero was a Foo Fighters' cover

-Love's Not a Competition (But I'm Winning) is a Kaiser Chiefs' cover. This was released on BBC Radio 1 Live Lounge Vol. 3

-you missed out Stuck On You (Failure Cover, track 10 on Failure Tribute Album)

Ok, i have fixed these mistakes up but didnt find out the track times for both loves not a competition and stuck on you. Parafan 2 (talk) 07:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

this should be added to Hayley's page, and perhaps even the bands page. it explains why they took a break from touring in 2008, the break up rumors(in reference to Paramore), the romance rumors, possible song meanings / inspirations, and maybe even why Hayley felt so alone and depressed.

Josh and Hayley both admitted into being in a relationship with each other [for almost three years] in an interview with Alternative Press magazine (September '09 issue)- currently being sold.

there is also confirmation that Hayley Williams is dating Chad Guilbert of New Found Glory in this article.

THE FOLLOWING PAGES WHERE SCANNED DIRECTLY FROM ALTERNATIVE PRESS MAGAZINE ^{[5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]}

"Paramore (pronounced "par-a-more"". Is that really necessary? I assume "paramore" is easy enough for most people with a basic comprehension of English to pronounce, no? Whip it! ^{Now whip it good!} 06:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's fine. However, maybe the pronunciation should be phonetic? KellanFabjance (talk) 01:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Thursday, 26 March 2009 is the day underground magazine Rock Sound interviewed Chad Gilbert and got some answers on the question that has been on everybody's mind, are Chad and Hayley dating? Well the answer is YES! But he and Hayley are not yet ready to release all the details and like to keep their relationship low key and out of the public eye. ^{[12] [13]} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.94.11 (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Have we reached editor consensus on this yet? If not, I say we should. Calling them 'emo' is pretty drastic, and I expect may represent a small minority's viewpoint. (Albert Mond (talk) 10:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC))

Paramore is definately NOT emo, but that doesn't matter:

if there are reliable sources saying that the band is emo, this article will say they're emo. Rolling Stones and the New York Times are definately reliable. --30daysinAK (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Unless you have proof of this, dont post it on here! I doubt they are going to split. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoX448 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Why is their third album described as their "third and final" album in the intro to this article? There's no evidence out there that this will be their last album, despite break up rumors. It shouldn't be stated like a fact when it's speculation at best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Librarychick84 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

PARAMORE IS SPLITTING UP!!!EHAT THE CRAP!!! I'LL NEVER LIVE!!!!!!

paramore is pronounced PAIR-A-MORE its NOT pronounced PAH-RA-MORE. sum1 edit that

I LOVE PARAMORE FOREVER AND ALWAYS!!! THEY ROCK!!! ( BTW, THEY'RE NOT EMO!)

Pronunciation is a matter of where you come from. I would say that there's no need to offer a pronunciation on the page at all, since it's a fairly basic word with little chance of being extremely incorrectly pronounced. Also, as I said before, people from certain parts of America might say "Pair-a-more", where as people from the UK say it how it reads - "Pah-ra-more". I don't know whether you think the read out makes it sound like "PAR-AR-MORE" (that is, Pah in Oxford English is prounced "PAR"), so maybe you're just confused with the pronunciation of the pronunciation...hence, there's really no need for a pronunciation guide. Regardless, after all that ranting about pronunciation, the other matter is, this is a general discussion page, NOT a fan forum. Save the loving comments for the band's website, please. Finally, if the sources say they're emo, they're emo. If people come to this page looking to see whether they might like the band based on the genre, they're gonna know straight away whether they like them or not by the fact that it says EMO. Sources are sources for a reason. Thanks. FlipsidePro09 (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Please direct your attention to the October 2009 issue of Alternative Press. In the interview, it confirms that Hayley and josh were dating until 2007 when they decided they didnt want it to interfere with their music. It also states that Hayley is now dating Chad from New Found Glory. Conflict between Hayley and Josh about Hayley dating chad caused them to cancel their remaining shows of their tour in early 2008.

Here is the reliable soruces: (Scans of the actualy article. Number 5 is the one to read)

THE FOLLOWING PAGES WHERE SCANNED DIRECTLY FROM ALTERNATIVE PRESS MAGAZINE

[1] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNZbK_D_pI/AAAAAAAAIZs/uf_qTVLAATQ/s1600-h/3.jpg
[2] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNZbjO0_wI/AAAAAAAAIZ0/0e1VNxuxKMA/s1600-h/4.jpg
[3] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNZcFWffxI/AAAAAAAAIZ8/IeZljrbK428/s1600-h/5.jpg
[4] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaAwYrT7I/AAAAAAAAIaE/fsepm1YW9i0/s1600-h/6.jpg
[5] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaBAdmSQI/AAAAAAAAIaM/w1zcaNqIO5M/s1600-h/7.jpg
[6] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaBh-hBOI/AAAAAAAAIaU/GhtpZWTGiJ8/s1600-h/8.jpg
[7] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaCCFpEAI/AAAAAAAAIac/4FCrGA8EOUY/s1600-h/9.jpg

This information is unnecessary:

"On September 29th, vocalist Hayley Williams had to leave stage fustrated during the encore during the first show of the brand new eyes tour due to hoarseness. On October 2nd, it was announced that a few tour dates have been postponed due to vocalist Hayley Williams becoming infected with laryngitis."

Plus it's heavily worded, and someone needs to check their grammar. Thank you, that is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misery Child (talk • contribs) 01:39, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

On her twitter it says that they are shooting the video for "Brick By Boring Brick". I think this should be put up on this page, oh, and does that mean it's already been put out as a single? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misery Child (talk • contribs) 10:07, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Hayley Williams has one thats linked to the main Paramore page Jeremy Davis has one has one thats also linked to the main Paramore page Josh Farro has one but its not directly linked to the Paramore page and im not a registered user so i cant change that. and as far as im concerned nor Zac Farro or Taylor York have official wiki pages.. maybe someone should make them one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.100.121 (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Zac Farro already has a stub page but it still lacks any references.T.tyrael 19:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.tyrael (talk • contribs) None of them really deserve one, but maybe Hayley should, only because of her appearances on other artists' songs. Other members lack importance and talent to deserve a solitary page for themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.11.136.72 (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}} well i noticed that in the first paragraph there is no link to Jeremy's wikipedia page, even though the link exists on the right side under the list of band members names. Really simple fix, and would be helpful for finding his page.

 Done   Set Sail For The Seven Seas  344° 1' 30" NET   22:56, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, but Josh Farro and Zac Farro still don't have any hyperlinks to their pages, if anyone can add hyperlinks for them please? T.tyrael 14:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

while checking the references for broken links, I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramore#cite_note-latimes-48 the blogger can modify any information in that review, but I don't delete citations before first gaining consensus. So does it count as a reliable source?--T.tyrael 13:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.tyrael (talk • contribs)

{{editsemiprotected}}

The text "ps. she is 5'0 tall" appears to be out of context with the rest of the paragraph. Request to have it removed from the article.

Old sentence: After being asked by the band ps. she is 5'0 tall, Jeremy Davis returned to Paramore after five months apart, replacing Hembree.

Corrected sentence: After being asked by the band, Jeremy Davis returned to Paramore after five months apart, replacing Hembree.

Fixed. DCEdwards¹⁹⁶⁶ 22:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

in the introduction brand new eyes should not be described as "the most successful album" by paramore because Riot!, as of now, has sold more copies. It should however be described as "the highest charting album to date". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.86.160.62 (talk) 20:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Fixed (with a source, just to be sure that that was accurate)

--30daysinAK (talk) 20:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Here's why I removed them:

• Two of the citations are from sites that rely on user-submitted content. As a result, they do not fulfill Wikipedia's criteria for reliable sources.
• One citation is from the band's official bio on its website. A band cannot determine its own genre, because they are not an objective source on the matter.
• The last citation is from a radio station website, which is not an authoritative, reliable source of music journalism.

Per WP:BURDEN, it's up to editors who want to classify the group as alternative rock to find suitable, reliable third party sources that establish the band as such. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Just need to change Taylor's age to 20, his birthday just past this December 17th

Done.T.tyrael (talk) 22:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

"The tour started on September 29 (the day that Brand New Eyes was released) and ends November 1 in their home town." should be "The tour started on September 29 (the day that Brand New Eyes was released) and ended on November 1, in their home town.".

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boonzeet (talk • contribs) 21:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC) ellos no son emos!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.228.98 (talk) 17:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Respectfully requesting an update:

This information is coming from the band's official LiveJournal and I would like to dissemenate it before rumors pop up on the page. The livejournal page is here: http://paramoreband.livejournal.com/72946.html

They confirm this is thiers on The Final Riot tour DVD before performing "My Heart".

Josh Farro announced he is sitting out the Pacific Rim tour to stay behind and plan his wedding. He is NOT leaving the band. Justin York (Taylor York's brother) will fill in for him on the tour.

Shyngo (talk) 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

This might be totally irrelevant but its a fun little fact that Hayley's abnormal orange microphone has been labelled 'the carrot'. This is probably useless but could be fun to have in there somewhere. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Please change the paramore picture! I think that a close-up picture would suit this article better... one with taylor too. Here is a link to a good paramore picture: http: //www.musiknyheter.nu/nytt-album-fran-paramore_20090703.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.52.123.66 (talk) 23:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I dont think that is a free license image, and the images need to have the right license to be used. The only pictures that can be used will probably be in the Wikipedia Commons. The picture was recently changed and reverted back because it was an unfree image. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 08:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I just think you should edit who they are co-headlining with in Soundwave. Specifically My Chemical Romance since they cancelled their appearance due to a throat injury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JokerboyJordan (talk • contribs) 00:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The grammar is being changed and therefore hyperlinks are deleted. With the new wording the hyperlinks cant be entered, you cant change the sentence structure of Hayleys, and not the others. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 10:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I can see that your grammar isn't very correct as above. Mcrfobrockr (talk) 07:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Its a discussion, it doesnt need to be grammatically correct, and that is besides the point. This is not a personal outburst at you. You changed the wording and it sounded wrong and much worse than it was originally- so i changed it back. This way, it remains correct which has served well for the article, and we can keep hyperlinks and structures how similar articles have them which is the advised structure.--WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 12:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't like emo-music123 and emo-subculture. But I like Paramore.

Here there are true emo? Who can say Paramore is emo or not.

Can so to be that The New York Times and The Rolling Stone are mistaken? Dannyf591 (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I noticed in the associated acts it didnt include: Relient k; fun; and tegan and sara. All of whom Paramore WILL be touring with this upcoming spring tour starting late April; and the Honda Civic tour that is starting July 7th. Those two tours could also be noted too. Hope this (maybe) could improve the accuracy of the article. I wasnt sure if this needed to be posted yet though...

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it should say on here that paramore is NOT BREAKING UP