Talk:Pokémon Go/Archive 5

Below are links to studies released on the societal and health effects of Pokémon Go. The long-believed physical/mental benefits have been verified and are worth inclusion.

• The Pikachu effect: Social and health gaming motivations lead to greater benefits of Pokémon GO use Computers in Human Behavior
• Does Pokémon Go lead to a more physically active life style? Computers in Human Behavior
• Motives Matter: Motives for Playing Pokémon Go and Implications for Well-Being Cyberpsychology Behavior and Social Networking
• Examining Motivations to Play Pokémon GO and Their Influence on Perceived Outcomes and Physical Activity JMIR Serious Games
• Understanding collocated social interaction between Pokémon GO players Proceedings of the 16th International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Multimedia
• Pokémon WALK: Persuasive Effects of Pokémon GO Game-Design Elements Persuasive Technology
• Key factors in the triumph of Pokémon GO Business Horizons
• Uses and Gratifications of Pokémon Go: Why do People Play Mobile Location-Based Augmented Reality Games? International Journal of Human–Computer Interaction

~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:10, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

I addressed the maintenance tag and removed content. I have no issue with content being re-added if it is truly notable. Szzuk (talk) 15:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Specifically the statement "data from Google Maps to spawn specific Pokémon on certain terrain"

The Mashable article linked as a source for that statement ^[1] recounts that "Deciding which Pokémon would appear where required a whole extra set of mapping data" and that John Hanke stated that although he "could not disclose its origins, another data set used in the game is drawn from the geographic classification of an area based on climate, vegetation and soil or rock type. "That gets into more geographic information system-type of data ... and we utilise that to map Pokémon species to appropriate habitats.""

To this day, the technical factors/data sources behind habitats/biomes in Pokemon GO remain somewhat shrouded in mystery. Even back in 2016, well before Pokemon GO transitioned to OpenStreetMap for visuals there was a developing body of evidence that OpenStreetMap (and possibly other yet-unknown resources) played a role in the backend of things, with OpenStreetMap influencing factors such as nests and water type pokemon at the very least since launch. Assigning this to Google Maps is not accurate and is not what the original source claims.

The dates on the transition to OpenStreetMap visuals are also incorrect:

Pokemon GO launched using OpenStreetMap map data for visuals in South Korea (and only South Korea) in January 2017 due to legal issues associated with using Google Maps in that country: https://medium.com/seoul-libre-maps/views-on-digital-maps-and-open-data-f225afc81412 https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/23/pokemon-go-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-in-south-korea/

And to be really fussy, Pokemon GO began transitioning to OpenStreetMap for (global) visuals at the end of November 2017, not December, it was a rolling change that took place over several hours: https://pokemongohub.net/post/news/game-map-updated-openstreetmap-data-imported-notable-changes-around-globe/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/7ghoyo/ingame_map_has_just_been_updated_with_before_and/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodwosewulf (talk • contribs) 04:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Can we put the list of gens please? Some people are confused on to which generation is out.Porygon-Z (talk) 01:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

• Seems like WP:GAMECRUFT. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:24, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

I've read the requirements and I don't think it is but I'm not sure. It says that you can add a table but it can't be the cost, codes, or any varied detail. gens are a fact proved by Game Freak themselves, so I don't know. Porygon-Z (talk) 18:19, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

It needs to be edited to update some information. Lucas two (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:01, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

I will update the information here so that those who can edit this page will do it.

"The game launched with around 150 species of Pokémon, which had increased to over 530 by 2019." Lucas two (talk) 06:17, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

While that is true, you most likely would want to say something referring to the facts that there are more than 530 Pokemon now. Since the game updated with Mime Jr. and now other Generation 5 Pokemon, there will be more in the future. Besides this is 2019 still, for now. So I'd say something about how the game is continuing to grow and as of now over 530 Pokemon In the Pokemon Go world until the next recent update. Porygon-Z (talk) 19:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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The addition of the introduction of Galarian Pokémon as well as Mega Evolutions should be added to the Gameplay section (June 2020). Furthermore, the changes that Niantic has taken to address the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as the introduction of GO Battle League (January 2020). Don the First (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The current number of Pokemon in Go is about 600 (by 2020). Please help to change it in top. Lucas two (talk) 16:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a source saying this? Pikavoom (talk) 07:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm curious why there is no talk of the Surveillance capitalism aspects of Pokémon Go. In the article of Surveillance capitalism Pokémon Go is mentioned as an example of Surveillance Capitalism. In this interview Shoshana Zuboff explains this strategy of Niantic Labs. Also, the business model of Niantic Labs is not clearly defined on the page. From the text in the current article, it seems like Niantic Labs is not getting paid by advertisers, but on their business page they explain the benefits differently, the title "Customers, on Demand" doesn't hide this intention. --2A02:8109:9880:49D0:400B:6A80:C682:B45D (talk) 22:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

The "surveillance" bit sounds like a personal opinion, and the practices mentioned in the interview do not seem to be widely accepted facts. Niantic's business model may be suitable for the company's page, not PoGo's. --Luminoxius (talk) 01:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Could we be more specific about what practices mentioned in the interview?

• Business model is indeed (party) trough advertising, and thus influencing the behaviour of the players
• Niantic labs is incubated inside Google, Google is still partly owner and stakeholder
• One of the parts of Surveillance capitalism are that the behaviour of humans is influenced by the platforms which they openly say on their business page.
• One other part is that it is hidden/disguised from the users, which I guess could be true for most users, and by not saying anything on this page, we don't change this (Normal users might check out Pokemon Go on wiki)

Since the business model is mentioned on this page it should be mentioned fully, and not only the consumer facing perception of the business model. I agree with you that surveillance has some negative connotations to it, but I guess it could be mentioned in Criticism and incidents, since it is critique and related to the game Pokemon Go. Shoshana Zuboff is widely cited in the Science and technology studies field. In her book The Age of Surveillance Capitalism she spends page 292 - 301 explaining the model of Pokémon Go, using plenty of references. The tone of voice in the interview might be too negative, but initially I didn't hear anything that isn't true, given the references in her book. Lemio (talk) 14:26, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

This afternoon, I noticed that the term "pokedex" has only two appearances in the article. One of these is an unexplained reference to an asian player. The other is an article that talks about the number of pokemon available during the first year. It seems relevant that either that note, or the body of the article, at the very least mentions the current number of pokemon, with, I presume, some sort of reference to separate pages detailing each Niantic pokemon generation and hopefully when the pokemon became available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvirden (talk • contribs) 18:24, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

Considering the number of Pokemon changes on a weekly basis I do not know if it is worth the effort. And then you start getting into variants of existing Pokemon. Kav2001c (talk) 10:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)kav2001c

Sounds like it should the number of pokemon should either be deleted or updated to improve the article's trustworthiness 20th_anniversary([User Talk:20th_anniversary:talk]) — Preceding undated comment added 22:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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I want to edit one thing, if anyone want to read about "how to play pokemon go without moving" Then on this page there in no such information about such thing. Becasue nowadays, a lot of people are searching for pokemon go hack and how to play this game with joystick. It is a very popular game of 2016, which crossed 1 millions download in one month. So it is important for you to give your reader a valid response to play pokemon go without moving. So I am here with a website blog in which all such information is given. https://techyjungle.com/pokemon-go-hack/ Jamesamy9896 (talk) 07:23, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Wikipedia is not a game guide, a how to guide on how to play pokemon go without moving is probably not information fit for a Wikipedia article. I also don't think that website would be an appropriate external link or an appropriate reference. It does seem that some mainstream sources have picked up on the fact that you can play without moving , but I don't see any great place to put that in the article. Feel free to re-open the request (change "answered=yes" to "answered=no") if you have a request for how such information might be included into the article. Volteer1 (talk) 12:09, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

This should be important, right?

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Hey, I've been doing research on Pokemon Go, and at the start of the development section, it says that Iwata and Ishihara conceived of the concept for the game when they came up with the Google challenge. But the cited source doesn't mention that. I finally found a source that says who came up with it, finding info about who conceived of the challenge idea, and other early development stuff was hard. Tatsuo Nomura apparently, while working for Google, "lit on the idea to do a game based on [Pokemon]" and "on a trip to Japan, he got permission from The Pokémon Company." I might also expand on the development section in general with this article, as it contains a lot of unique info. I am busy so it might take me a while. If someone else wants to change this for me go ahead, or if you have proof that I'm mistaken, please feel free to let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmileyTrek (talk • contribs) 18:49, 30 October 2021 (UTC)