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On 10 March 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Pteridospermatophyta to Pteridosperm. The result of the discussion was moved.

Discussion

I am not sure how this new 'Automatic Taxobox' works but it has managed to put Lyginopteridopsida as an order, rather than a class that it actually is. I realise that the original version that I edited had the Gigantopteridaceae (family) as an order (inherited from the original version) but that was something I intended to fix. Alternatively, it may be best to just get rid of this attempt at a taxonomic structure here. Pteridosperms is not really a taxon in any meaningful sense, just a 'grade-group' of early seed-plants. As it stands, we are developing two parallel but essentially incompatible taxonomic structures: one based around Pteridosperms, the other structured around more natural groupings such as Cycadopsida, Ottokariopsida and Ginkgosida. CCleal (talk) 21:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

The paragraph beginning "So, does the concept of pteridosperms have any value today?" seems to be written in a style more suited to a debate, so I have aded a debate template. This could be partly patched up by deleting or editing that sentence, but its inclusion has affected the tone of the remainder of the paragraph. Zag1024 (talk 1:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I attempted a rewrite of the paragraph in question. I think that a discussion of the validity of historical paleobotanical terms may be beyond the scope of this article but feel free to expand upon my edits.Fascinoma (talk) 03:01, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Glossopteridales

The taxonomy for Glossopteridales here and in the Gloss... article do not align. I will put a similar note in the talk for that article, and perhaps someone can sort this out. Here we have Pteridospermatophyta>Dictyopteridiopsida>Rigbyales (=Glossopteridales). There we have Pteridospermatophyta>Glossopteridales. 2001:56A:F0E9:9B00:6D65:DBCA:8828:2997 (talk) 02:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)JustSomeWikiReader

Can you semi-protect this page for few days? That IP user was ruining this page.

So, do you know that that IP-user was vandalizing this page?

This edit request to Pteridospermatophyta has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Jovandrisusanto26 (talk) 12:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ⸺(Random)staplers 18:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

@Jovandrisusanto26 Looks like the IP has been blocked for now. Go to WP:RPP if there is any more trouble. And please, don't open an edit request.⸺(Random)staplers 18:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Change "valid" to "invalid" in one sentence?

This sentence appears in the first section:

"This is particularly useful for extinct seed plant groups whose systematic relationships remain speculative, as they can be classified as pteridosperms with no valid implications being made as to their systematic affinities."

Should this be changed so it says "...with no invalid implications being made..."? B3medes (talk) 00:39, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

I think neither is needed; just say "with no implications". Peter coxhead (talk) 21:44, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 10 March 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) 1isall (talk | contribs) 20:19, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Pteridospermatophyta → Pteridosperm – WP:COMMONNAME. Out of all the names used for this group, "pteridosperm" is the most common on Google scholar, with over 3,300 hits . By contrast, the current title only gets 132 hits , with the synonym Pteridospermopsida getting over 640 hits . The only serious competitor, the informal "seed fern" gets over 2,600 hits. Because the grouping is not monophyletic and quasi-informal anyway, I do not see a problem in moving it to a colloquial title. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:54, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:50, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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