Talk:Recherla Rudra

I am undoing the undiscussed move to "Recherla Rudra Reddy" -- this seems to be a name popularized by the members of the Reddy caste. There are exactly 0 results on Google Books / Scholars for this name -- academic sources prefer the name "Recherla Rudra":

• Google Books - Recherla Rudra
• Google Books - Recherla Rudra Reddy
• Google Scholar - Recherla Rudra
• Google Scholar - Recherla Rudra Reddy

utcursch | talk 13:29, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

First read the books, history and then comment. Read the ancestors and family lineage of Recherla Rudra Reddy. His father name is Katreddi and grandfather name is Kamareddi. Why do you apply your casteist ideologies to historical persons.Don't distort history. I can present you hundreds of proofs.

https://www.telangana360.com/2014/04/recherla-chiefs.html?m=1

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQoOJYoSwiblNpshnsvK4dU8DV2YcqrxdFNONplKRV6Puz3lwCxyuVtCpkX&s=10

Don't become historians based on some random Google info mentioning only half name created by random people. Read books, read genealogy, do some research. Don't dare to distort Telangana history. RRTSBharat (talk) 14:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Reasons and Observation: The repeated removal of the "Reddy" (Reddi) suffix for Recherla Rudra is contrary to primary epigraphical records and established scholarly compilations. While some editors have cited a lack of "Google Scholar" results, Wikipedia’s core policy on Verifiability WP:V and Reliable Sources WP:RS prioritizes established academic and archaeological publications, such as the following: 1. Primary Epigraphical Evidence: The Palampet Inscription (1213 CE) The most definitive source is the Palampet Inscription of Recherla Rudrireddi (1213 CE), located at the Ramappa Temple. The Suffix: This inscription explicitly identifies the subject as Rudrireddi. Lineage: It also identifies his father as Katreddi (or Kat-reddi), proving that "Reddi" was the established family title/suffix used by this branch of the Recherla family during the Kakatiya period. Reference: Epigraphia Telanganica, Volume II: "Imperial Kakatiyas," Inscription No. 126 (Plate No. 8), page 392. 2. Supporting Secondary Scholarship The claim that there are "zero books" supporting this is factually incorrect. The distinction between the Recherla Reddis (loyal to the Kakatiyas) and the later Recherla Velamas is a well-documented historical fact: Academic Compilations: Epigraphia Telanganica (2023), edited by Gajjala Vasanta Lakshmi and General Editor Dr. Gautam Pingle (Center for Telangana Studies), repeatedly uses the term "Racherla Rudri Reddy" or "Recherla Rudrireddi" to describe his role in suppressing rebellions and negotiating the release of King Ganapatideva from Yadava captivity. Saiva Lineage Records: Inscription No. 317 at the Somappa temple in Nalgonda records gifts made for the merit of both the Kakatiya king Ganapati and "Recervula Ruddu-Raddi" (a variation of Recherla Rudra Reddy). Family Context: Other contemporary records in the same family, such as the Pillalamarri inscription (1208 CE), identify family members like Recherla Pillalamarri Beti Reddi and his wife Erakasanamma, reinforcing the consistent use of the "Reddi" title within this specific clan.

3. Addressing the Administrative Bias

The reliance on Google Scholar is a "digital-only" bias that ignores physical archaeological surveys published by state heritage departments.

Official Recognition: Epigraphia Telanganica is an official publication of the Dr. MCR Human Resource Development Institute, Government of Telangana.

Scholarly Consensus: The volume references the work of leading historians like Cynthia Talbot and P.V. Parabrahma Sastry, who recognize the Recherla chiefs as "Reddi" subordinates (Nayakas) of the Kakatiyas.

Conclusion: The suffix "Reddy" (historically "Reddi") is not a modern ideological addition; it is the literal transcription of the name found on the 13th-century stone inscriptions at the Ramappa Temple (a UNESCO World Heritage site). I request that the name be updated to reflect the primary source evidence: Recherla Rudra Reddy or Recherla Rudrireddi.

Gajjala Vasanta Lakshmi, ed. (2023). Epigraphia Telanganica (PDF). Vol. 2: Imperial Kakatiyas. Dr. MCR Human Resource Development Institute. ISBN 978-81-957545-5-7. RRTSBharat (talk) 19:03, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Requested moves, and avoid AI slop. utcursch | talk 20:55, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Please have some patience to read the truth presented in comment instead of ignoring and terming it as AI slop. RRTSBharat (talk) 01:15, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

It has been proposed in this section that Recherla Rudra be renamed and moved to Recherla Rudra Reddy. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Recherla Rudra → Recherla Rudra Reddy – The current title "Recherla Rudra" is an incomplete representation of the historical figure's name as recorded in primary epigraphic sources and contemporary scholarly compilations. The addition of "Reddy" (or "Reddi") is not a modern insertion but is explicitly used in the inscriptions found in Epigraphia Telanganica, Volume 2: Imperial Kakatiyas (Published by MCRHRD Institute, Government of Telangana, 2023). While Google Scholar may show fewer results for the specific string "Recherla Rudra Reddy," Wikipedia's policy on Verifiability WP:V and Identifying Reliable Sources WP:RS prioritizes high-quality academic publications and primary archaeological records over search engine hit counts.

Evidence from Epigraphia Telanganica, Vol. II (2023):

Page 147: Explicitly identifies the figure as Racherla Rudra Reddy and Rudra Reddi.

Page 146: Mentions the name Recherla Rudri Reddy in the context of tax grants to the Ramesvara-Mahadeva temple.

Page 8: The General Introduction confirms that Racherla Rudri Reddy was the prominent general who suppressed rebellions and negotiated the release of King Ganapatideva.

Page 329: Records a land grant by a minister under Racherla Rudrireddi.

Page 392 (Plate No. 8): Specifically labels the Palampet Inscription as belonging to Racherla Rudrireddi.

Conclusion: The "Reddy/Reddi" suffix is a consistent identifier used by the most recent and comprehensive epigraphic survey of the region. Moving the page ensures the title reflects the nomenclature used in the primary inscriptions and the latest historical scholarship.

Gajjala Vasanta Lakshmi, ed. (2023). Epigraphia Telanganica (PDF). Vol. 2: Imperial Kakatiyas. Dr. MCR Human Resource Development Institute. ISBN 978-81-957545-5-7.

RRTSBharat (talk) 00:57, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose: There are exactly 0 results on Google Books / Scholars for the proposed name "Recherla Rudra Reddy":
  • Google Books - Recherla Rudra
  • Google Books - Recherla Rudra Reddy
  • Google Scholar - Recherla Rudra
  • Google Scholar - Recherla Rudra Reddy

  utcursch | talk 16:05, 20 April 2026 (UTC)