Talk:Third Way

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Assuming that 3rd way means social democracy is a completely ahistorical fallacy

While social democracy can today be seen as a 3rd way, the only consistent meaning of "3rd" way is that between the (Old Anarchist and) Communist ideologies based on the writings of Marx.

This is more commonly taken to mean specifically the "3rd way" during the run up to WW2, which was Fascism or National socialism; In other words, full "incorporation" into the corporate state, also known as totalitarianism.

Thus, according to proponents, both capitalism and socialist variants of the old were to be avoided, but to that extent also capitalism fully utilized and socialism fully implemented in a more fundamental way than by trying to "undo" the productive capital forces.

There should be historical sources available for these, but I am currently lacking them.

~~ 83.255.180.77 (talk) 23:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it's concerning that a wiki article about this political concept tries to paint it as a moderate ideology, rather than born out of a fascist ideology. 24.237.64.242 (talk) 09:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
That's Third Position, not Third Way, you idiot. 2A02:CB80:4262:9AD9:15FE:A215:930F:33BE (talk) 05:30, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
That's Third Position, not Third Way, you idiot. 2A02:CB80:4262:9AD9:15FE:A215:930F:33BE (talk) 05:30, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
how This is more commonly taken to mean specifically the "3rd way" during the run up to WW2, which was Fascism or National socialism; In other words, full "incorporation" into the corporate state, also known as totalitarianism
That's the third position , not the 3rd way
You idiot 3rd way started after world war 2A02:CB80:4262:9AD9:15FE:A215:930F:33BE (talk) 05:36, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
how This is more commonly taken to mean specifically the "3rd way" during the run up to WW2, which was Fascism or National socialism; In other words, full "incorporation" into the corporate state, also known as totalitarianism
That's the third position , not the 3rd way
You idiot 3rd way started after world war 2A02:CB80:4262:9AD9:15FE:A215:930F:33BE (talk) 05:36, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
How This is more commonly taken to mean specifically the "3rd way" during the run-up to WW2, which was Fascism or National Socialism; in other words, full "incorporation" into the corporate state, also known as totalitarianism.
What you mean is the third position, which is right-wing.
The third way is Leftist consensus policy.
The third way was used in women's rights before the fascists invented the third position. 2A02:CB80:4262:9AD9:15FE:A215:930F:33BE (talk) 05:47, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
While social democracy can today be seen as a 3rd way, the only consistent meaning of "3rd" way is that between the (Old Anarchist and) Communist ideologies based on the writings of Marx.
This is more commonly taken to mean specifically the "3rd way" during the run up to WW2, which was Fascism or National socialism; In other words, full "incorporation" into the corporate state, also known as totalitarianism.
Thus, according to proponents, both capitalism and socialist variants of the old were to be avoided, but to that extent also capitalism fully utilized and socialism fully implemented in a more fundamental way than by trying to "undo" the productive capital forces. 2A02:CB80:4262:9AD9:15FE:A215:930F:33BE (talk) 05:47, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
Stop comment spam and stop insulting others. Can get blocked from editing Wikipedia for that grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 12:20, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

List of 3rd way leaders strikes me as WP:OR

I have removed a section containing a list of 3rd way leaders, given the subjective nature of what constitutes a "third way leader", especially given the broadness of the ideology. Given quite a lot of leaders seem to have been called "third way" by at least somebody (Hugo Chavez, really?) it is clear that compiling such a list, in addition to being a rather bad thing to include in an article, is probably a giant mess of WP:OR. Allan Nonymous (talk) 01:50, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

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It isnt centrist, it’s centre-right

Workfare as opposed to welfare is a hallmark of neoliberalism and immediately disqualifies an ideology from being centrist. Keksi s mlijekom (talk) 10:09, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

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