Talk:Toy with Me/GA1
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Nominator: Camilasdandelions (talk · contribs) 10:49, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Pamzeis (talk · contribs) 10:04, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Hiya, I'll be reviewing this article! Please alert me if I screw anything up. Pamzeis (talk) 10:04, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- @Pamzeis All addressed, thank you so much for your review :)!! Camilasdandelions (✉️) 16:08, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Prose
mostly recorded the album in Sweden
— in #Recording locations, the only two locations listed are in Sweden, so is "mostly" correct here?- Makes sense. Removed Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
collaborated with producers such as Grant Boutin, Gabe Yaron, Ellis, and Mike Sabath
— why are these four singled out? As far as I can tell, none of them are mentioned in prose again, and according to #Tracklisting, there are several more producers who have been omitted- Should I just leave people who can be wikilinked then? I'll follow your suggestion Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- I think, per WP:DUE and MOS:LEAD, they perhaps should just be omitted—if reliable sources don't mention them enough for them to be included in the prose of the body, why should the lead? But I wouldn't object to replacing the current format with the notable producers. Pamzeis (talk) 16:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- I just replaced these with studio names Camilasdandelions (✉️) 16:06, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- I think, per WP:DUE and MOS:LEAD, they perhaps should just be omitted—if reliable sources don't mention them enough for them to be included in the prose of the body, why should the lead? But I wouldn't object to replacing the current format with the notable producers. Pamzeis (talk) 16:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- Should I just leave people who can be wikilinked then? I'll follow your suggestion Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
However, the album's commercial impact was short-lived
— seems like editorialising?- Revised Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
When making an album, Trainor noted that she wanted the project to open with music that makes listeners "feel unstoppable", marking a new chapter in both her artistic and personal evolution.
— I'm a bit confused here—the "an album" makes it sound like she's talking about her process in general, but "marking a new chapter in both her artistic and personal evolution" seems like she's talking about a specific album? Could this be reworded?- Done Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:46, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
that its concept was influenced
— this means the album's concept, not the title's concept, right? Could that be clarified, 'cuz the previous sentence was talking about the title- Revised Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Described as her "most honest and fearless" to date
— by whom?- Revised Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:39, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- #Composition has a lot of sentences with "themes of" and it gets a bit repetitive. Also, some of these themes seem to basically be the same thing or, at the very least, very similar (e.g. individual freedom and personal freedom, confidence and self-confidence). Can it be condensed a bit?
- Done Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:46, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
"Potential" is similar to American singer Sabrina Carpenter's song
— which song? Or just in general (in which case, it should be "songs" or "music", right?)- Revised Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- Should "Get In Girl" be "Get in Girl" per MOS:CAPS?
- Yeah I thought "in" was true, but... Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:29, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- A few parts in #Critical reception state opinions as facts:
Epstein-Gross acknowledged Trainor's vocal ability
,as its "bubblegum" production and lack of originality limit its overall impact
,its aesthetic coherence while criticizing its lack of innovation
andsimplified feminist themes,
- What about now? I just directly quoted them Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:39, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Upon release, Toy with Me was a commercial underperformance
— according to whom?- Revised Camilasdandelions (✉️) 10:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Sourcing
- Are Melodic Magazine and Audacy reliable sources?
- Yuh Camilasdandelions (✉️) 16:01, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_267#Hello!_Magazine, Hello! is generally not considered a reliable source
- Removed Camilasdandelions (✉️) 16:01, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Spotchecks
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| Reference # | Letter | Source | Archive | Status | Notes |
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| and one in Australia. | |||||
| 6 | australian-charts.com | web.archive.org | |||
| Its lyrics frequently concentrate on the themes of authenticity, empowerment, and individual freedom. | |||||
| 16 | infobae.com | web.archive.org | My understanding/comprehension of Spanish is limited, but from what I read, it is mentioned | ||
| "Princess" includes lines such as "for this dress / 'Cause it hides that I'm broken", contrasting outward display with underlying emotion. "Cry Baby" likewise opens with lines such as "I feel hated, overwhelmed / Underrated, and all by myself" before shifting into a contrasting refrain. "Ladylike" combines contemporary slang and rhythmic vocalizations. At the same time, the title track employs extended metaphor and suggestive lines such as "Toy with me, baby". | |||||
| 12 | e | pastemagazine.com | web.archive.org | For the most part, supported, but some bits veer a bit into OR for me, though I haven't read the entire thing, so I could of course be missing something. I think contrasting outward display with underlying emotionis meant to supported by Trainor is deathly focused on how much she has to prove, despite constantly assuring us otherwise. Toy With Me is anchored in latent, simmering hurt, not twinkly fun. But frustratingly, Trainor never fully commits to vulnerability, always couching it in some stupid girlbossism, but I don't think it's explicit enough here. And I can't find mention of an extended metaphor(emphasis mine). It's implied at turns Trainor into a literal fuckdoll and this song about being a doll, which is a weird mixing of metaphors, but again, I don't find it explicit enough. | |
| On February 13, 2026, "Get In Girl" served as the album's second single. | |||||
| 24 | manilatimes.net | web.archive.org | AGF, I can't access the article | ||
| However, it was canceled on April 16, due to Trainor's desire to prioritize family commitments. She wrote on social media: "Balancing the release of a new album, preparing for a nationwide tour, and welcoming our new baby girl to our growing family of five has just been more than I can take on right now, and I need to be home and present for each and all of them at this time." | |||||
| 32 | people.com | web.archive.org | |||
| "Little One" features Trainor's sons, Riley and Barry, saying "I love you, mama" at the end of the track. | |||||
| 40 | cornellsun.com | Only mentions "Little One" (which features a voice clip from her two sons) | |||
- I also spot-checked the Billboard article in note 1, 'cuz I was kinda iffy about the note—I’m literally about to start my next album as an answer to Hearing new artists like Chappell Roan and Sabrina Carpenter, what do you think a hit sounds like now?. I think using it to say the album was recorded around March 2025 veers a bit too much into OR, because starting could mean anything—writing, producing, etc.
- Hmmm... that's fair. I'll just remove it Camilasdandelions (✉️) 16:01, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
That's it from me :) Placing this review
On hold now. Pamzeis (talk) 15:59, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
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Second look
Mostly fine, except that I think one of my comments regarding spot-checks has not been resolved. I'll copy it here for ease:
- For the most part, supported, but some bits veer a bit into OR for me, though I haven't read the entire thing, so I could of course be missing something. I think
contrasting outward display with underlying emotion
is meant to supported by Trainor is deathly focused on how much she has to prove, despite constantly assuring us otherwise. Toy With Me is anchored in latent, simmering hurt, not twinkly fun. But frustratingly, Trainor never fully commits to vulnerability, always couching it in some stupid girlbossism, but I don't think it's explicit enough here. And I can't find mention of anextended metaphor
(emphasis mine). It's implied at turns Trainor into a literal fuckdoll and this song about being a doll, which is a weird mixing of metaphors, but again, I don't find it explicit enough.
Aside from that, I think the article's ready for GA-status! Pamzeis (talk) 02:30, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
- @Pamzeis Addressed, thank you for clarification! Camilasdandelions (✉️) 04:50, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
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Third look
I think we're good to go!
Passing the article. Pamzeis (talk) 14:13, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
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