Talk:Valentin Senn

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    • ALT1: ... that NFL player Valentin Senn used to play trumpet for the Swarovski Orchestra?
    • Reviewed:
Created by Dafootballguy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Dafootballguy (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2026 (UTC).

  • Wouldn't it be better to simply say "NFL player" rather than mentioning his position or weight? The main point here (that an American football player used to be a musician) is somewhat lost. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:55, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
  • The weight makes it seem more entertaining, a 310 pounder who used to be a musician is more engaging than a random NFL player who could be 5'7" 150 pounds. I agree on the position part though. Dafootballguy (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
  • The article just barely above the 1500 character limit, so it's possible to expand it further I suggest doing that. Article created the day was moved to mainspace, and is free from close paraphrasing. Only the first hook meets WP:DYKHFC, so for the second hook to be eligible the footnote has to be duplicated. No QPQ needed for a first-time nominator. I'm not 100% down with either hook since neither group has an article, but there's no real prohibition against article-less nouns in hooks so I'm willing to let that slide. I have a slight preference for ALT1. As mentioned earlier, I don't think his weight is relevant to the hook, it's better to just say he was an American football player or an NFL player. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:37, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

I'll expand the article shortly, and then I'll see how to improve the hook. Dafootballguy | Want to talk? 19:27, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm really sorry for the delay! I had been unable to respond earlier due to real-life matters. The expansion is good. I think one last thing you can do is to write an alternative version of each hook that doesn't mention either group by name given their lack of articles (so "in a choir" or "in an orchestra"). I can leave it to the promoter which version to use. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:51, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
@Dafootballguy: By the way, you may want to fix your signature moving forward as it seems to be causing formatting or display issues on this page. I had to fix your previous response earlier. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:20, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
Don't see any issues anymore so all the hooks are approved, with a preference for ALT1/ALT1a. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:26, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

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