Talk:Yeti/Archive 4

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I believe the literal translation of the yeti in Nepali (हिममानव) has been written wrongly as "mountain man". In a literal translation, the first part of the word, हिम (hima) means ice or snow (as seen in https://translate.google.com/#ne/en/हिम. I also have fluency in Nepali). The second part of the word, मानव (mānav), means human or man. Because of this, it is probably more accurate to have the literal translation of the word as "ice human" or "snow man". The exact suggested edit is as follows:

The original introduction of the article is:

In the folklore of Nepal, the Yeti (/ˈjɛti/)^[2] or Abominable Snowman (Nepali: हिममानव himamānav, lit. "mountain man") is an ape-like entity taller than an average human that is said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Nepal, Bhutan and Tibet.

I would suggest it be changed to:

In the folklore of Nepal, the Yeti (/ˈjɛti/)^[3] or Abominable Snowman (Nepali: हिममानव himamānav, lit. "snow man") is an ape-like entity taller than an average human that is said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Nepal, Bhutan and Tibet.

Thanks. Svdsps (talk) 18:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@Svdsps: Thanks for the suggestion. I have made the change in the article. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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my name's jason brann. i'm a pretty reliable source, i guess, even though what i have to say may be surprising. i think i saw a yeti. 3, in fact. it was in nepal. 2004 or 2005. i could look it up, but i'm not going to right now. it was about early october. you can't go during the spring or summer cuz the rain and i wouldn't want to get caught in the himalayas in the winter. i have no idea about everest, but they'd gotten snowed out, so the trail was crowded with people who were planning on hiking everest but couldn't, so they decided to do this instead. i was a teacher in korea. i quit my job because this woman showed me pictures of the annapurna circuit and i needed a change. so i was about two weeks in, the day after the thorong-la pass, when i saw three light gray apes of some sort shooting up a maybe 15 foot rock face and disappear into the forest. apparently, they had been raiding a farmer's field. some kinda grain, i think, and they were throwing rocks or sticks and yelling at them, chasing them off. the apes were in tight formation, and very muscular, and my initial thought was that they were a family, since the one in the middle was a little taller, but all around 5 feet or so, but they moved identically, and fast, especially considering it was straight up. i'd say 20-30 mph. you see that sort of quickness in a squirrel going up a tree. the motion was hands grabbing on what looked like completely flat rock, then feet over hands together and then they bounded up the rest of the way. i wasn't the only witness. i think there were three or four farmers that i saw. one looked at me with a blank stare afterwards. i have no idea what he was thinking. there was my guide. he was excited, and said he'd never seen them before. there was this british guy, andy something, and his guide, and there were three or four north western europeans and they had a guide. i never talked to them because of the language barrier. i think one of the guides was named ali, but don't hold me to that one. i can't remember the other names. i think one of the guides used a fake name for english speakers that's just escaped me over the years. bob or something. anyway, it happened really fast. i'm sure if you took a traker back to the area you could find evidence. i mean, if you can climb around on those rocks to look for evidence. it's pretty precarious. you'd need expert mountain-climbers, i'd think, and probably some permits, but it's doable. so yeah, that's one of the coolest things that's happened to me. Brothertupelo (talk) 19:14, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

 Not done, Wikipedia does not use unpublished anecdotes. --McGeddon (talk) 19:27, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

That's one of the funniest ed-req's I've ever read on Wiki. 98.67.1.155 (talk) 21:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Agreed - plus, the photo looks like a shrubbery? 104.169.44.33 (talk) 03:21, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

A sentence on the discovery of "Yeti" hair in Bhutan states, "Then, during the 3rd season mid finale visit to Bhutan, Gates' team found a hair sample on a tree that they took back to have analyzed. After it was tested, it was concluded that the hair belonged to an unknown primate."

Should we change the wording of "unknown primate." Does it mean that the hair was from a species of primate that is unknown and undiscovered by science? Or (more likely) does it mean that the hair was from a primate but without other indicators, scientist can't pinpoint the exact species?

The first option leads people to believe that it was most assuredly bigfoot/yeti hair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.169.199 (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Bryan Skyes geneticist at Oxford university preformed DNA testing on 2 samples thought to be from the rumored yeti, one found by a hunter 40 years ago, the other a single hair, the second was from a hair found on bamboo film makers found *Missing*. Samples were from the Himalayas and upon testing scientist have reported a 100% match to a polar bear related creature which was thought to live between 40,000-100,000 years ago. Skyes also suggest the species is still alive today. This hybridization could be the results of interbreeding between polar bears and brown bears, which are closely related enough to breed and have been known to breed when their territories overlap.<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10384000/Yeti-lives-Abominable-Snowman-is-part-polar-bear-and-still-roams-the-Himalayas.html>

Well of course they'd say "unknown primate" because if they said "We're not alone after all" people would freak out! Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 01:18, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Alone?? There are about 8 billion people on this planet, plus a whole lotta ants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.169.44.33 (talk) 03:23, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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Add a new bullet under "In popular culture":

      The Yeti makes an appearance in Tintin in Tibet

The words "Tintin in Tibet" should link to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_Tibet RaynardVH (talk) 04:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Done DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 06:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

If we must have these sections, surely the depiction of Yeti in Monsters Inc is worth a mention? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:37, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Well, that was kind of a bit part, almost a cameo. He wasn't critical to the plot, which would have done fine without the Yeti scene. I had always assumed that the Yeti's appearance in Monsters Inc was an homage to the Abominable Snowman in Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special), which was a much more significant role. That might be more deserving of a mention - or maybe mentioning both shows in the same bullet point, if a source can be found to verify my assumed link between Monsters Inc and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Aaand... here's a reference: http://ew.com/article/2001/11/09/moments-you-missed-monsters-inc/ with a quote stating that the Yeti in Monsters Inc was indeed inspired by the Abominable Snowman from Rudolph. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:22, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Cool! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:13, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

OK, I added an entry that mentions both. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:21, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Time to unlock this page & update it in accordance with the University of Buffalo's research -see The Atlantic article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.133.173.219 (talk) 04:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

In October 2011, Kemerovo administrators announced that they had "indisputable proof" that mountains in the region were inhabited by Yeti.^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.3.17 (talk) 22:13, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Like many of its type on the site, this article is plagued by pseudoscience, most notably cryptozoology its close relative, Young Earth creationism. However, unlike many articles like it, there are numerous sources available out there that meet WP:RS requirements from folklorists, anthropologists, and academics active in other relevant disciplines. Readers who have taken the time to read reliable sources in this area and then encounter this article will note that the article remains waist-deep in quackery, commercial interests, and who knows what else, telling a very different story than what sober-eyed academics have to say on the topic, starting from a linguistic analysis of the words that spawned the concept of this entity in the English language and into what the figured has developed in modern popular culture. As article is closely connected to Bigfoot, before this article gets the rewrite it needs, this article will first need a rewrite.

Here are a few sources useful to start with for relaunching this article to be WP:RS and WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE-complaint:

• Joshua Blu Bluhs. 2009. Bigfoot: The Life and Times of a Legend. University of Chicago Press.
• Daniel Loxton & Donald Prothero. 2013. Abominable Science: Origins of the Yeti, Nessie, and other Famous Cryptids. Columbia University Press.

I'm currently working on sorting out the notorious Mokele-mbembe (Young Earth creationism and Cryptozoology together, united, hunting for a dinosaur in the Congo to 'prove evolution wrong'), but I'll turn my attention to this article as time allows. :bloodofox: (talk) 18:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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The yeti was featured on the 1964 Jonny Quest animated series episode Monsters in the Monastery. Joshua Muscat (talk) 22:10, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 02:07, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

A Channel 4 (UK) documentary, the episode on the 20/10/13 showed Brian Sykes testing the claimed (i.e the ones considered least likely to be hoaxes) physical samples of "yeti" hair.

there's a summation of the episode on C4's website but basically the conclusion was that 2 of the samples collected in areas 800 miles apart were exact match in terms of DNA of a type of Polar bear that died 40000 years ago. the hypothesis was that it was a common ancestor of modern Polar bears and brown bears. Or something along those lines. I was actually reading this article while the program was on.

Not sure if it's been published or if a channel 4 documentary is even a reliable source, but thought i'd suggest it's addition anyway.

BTW I'm not looking to prove the existence of legendary creatures, i think pseudoscience is mental.. but this is seemingly actual evidence of something previously unknown to science (albeit a species of bear) living in the Himalayas which the locals call "Yeti".````

Sign your posts with four tildas (50.111.19.178 (talk) 09:10, 25 October 2018 (UTC)). For a species to propogate/survive, there must be a minimum stable population. Any such bear would have been seen/identified long ago.50.111.19.178 (talk) 09:10, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Under pop culture, I think it should be included that Yeti's are an enemy type that protagonist Lara Croft encounters in Tomb Raider 2, as it is a best-selling and worldwide recognized franchise and a significant part of gaming history.2601:49:1:5316:5579:8545:B3B1:2488 (talk) 08:19, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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History ~ 20th Century section needs to be updated with the following

2019 April 29 Indian Army had tweeted that an #IndianArmy Moutaineering Expedition Team has sited Mysterious Footprints of mythical beast 'Yeti' measuring 32x15 inches close to Makalu Base Camp on 09 April 2019. This elusive snowman has only been sighted at Makalu-Barun National Park in the past.

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Already done. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:46, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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In Other names and locations , there is a typo. "mst" is written instead of "most". TrueBoxGuy (talk) 22:02, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done — IVORK _Talk 22:21, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

it will like good 182.177.195.32 (talk) 12:50, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Under the alternative names I'd like to add also the "Mátranovák treeskinner" or in hungarian the "Mátranováki fanyűvő" what has been seen just recently in Mátranovák in Mátra, which is a mountain in North-Hungary. Otto Takacs (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Credibility of Sławomir Rawicz. Can someone cut and paste this from Sławomir Rawicz and post in on the Yeti page, after his account of two bipedal animals that were doing seemingly nothing but shuffling around in the snow.

'In 2006 the BBC released a report based on former Soviet records, including statements written by Rawicz himself, showing that Rawicz had been released as part of the 1942 general amnesty of Poles in the USSR and subsequently transported across the Caspian Sea to a refugee camp in Iran, leading the report to conclude that his supposed escape to India never occurred.'

Rawicz was shown to be unreliable. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6098218.stm 5.81.40.185 (talk) 22:40, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

At the end I think that its just a simple myth.👍🏻 2409:4054:484:F270:F857:E030:E66B:DB20 (talk) 01:27, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

@2409:4054:484:F270:F857:E030:E66B:DB20 It's very hard to "catch" a yeti. it's one of those wild creatures which can even kill u by ur sight. it's not as easy as commented here Saanvi Army (talk) 15:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

I suggest adding YETI Holdings, Inc. to the In Popular Culture/Others list. This article does not provide an "Edit" option, else I would have done so already. 2601:601:8702:D2B0:8CAE:F7A3:874C:EE0 (talk) 21:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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I wanted to add the Kashmiri term for Forest Man or Yeti in the related/similar creatures part. Kharsenz (talk) 03:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Heart ^(talk) 03:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

May I suggest that someone find a less cartoonish image for the page? 207.113.239.144 (talk) 01:36, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

What do you think of this one? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I prefer this one. Masato.harada (talk) 11:51, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Change contents section name from citations to footnotes and change contents section name from general and cited references to sources 213.202.138.17 (talk) 12:10, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Saumen Kar redirects to this page, but then is not mentioned anywhere in the article, at least not using that spelling. Anyone can add it in? Mastakos (talk) 22:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

The picture in the article has nothing to do with Yeti as known in Asian folklore. I think it should be removed... Mastakos (talk) 23:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)