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Hi, please revdel the revisions as well. Thanks, —Matrix _{ping me}^{when u reply} (t? - c) 19:40, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the reminder: I have no idea why I didn't do that at the time. (Looks at my dog who needed a walk) Oh yeah; that's why. Joyous! Noise! 19:43, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

No worries lol we all got a life outside this website ;) —Matrix _{ping me}^{when u reply} (t? - c) 20:10, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for the preventing vandalism of this page. Can you please adding our national flag? Thanks. 200SUDEA (talk) 22:49, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

They are at it again. Would you mind a block and rev/del please. 2600:100E:B064:3D29:0:28:8BBF:6A01 (talk · contribs) Sorry 😞 Knitsey (talk) 21:22, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Knitsey (talk) 21:33, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

ick Joyous! Noise! 23:43, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

HI :)

I just saw this edit of a really long write-up about a high school student, kinda like a resume with all their roles and achievements.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mitchell_County_High_School&curid=23905586&diff=1307840488&oldid=1307750931

And I know I should revert this but I don't know under what. Like NOPV, WP:NOTRESUME, promotion or like all of the above. I'm probably over thinking this (I am) built I just wanted to ask.

Thx, ✦GLORPK4✦  | 📡 01:05, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Happy to help. I just kicked it out under the guidelines of WP:LISTBIO, which basically says you shouldn't drop names into articles like that if they don't have their own article. Joyous! Noise! 01:07, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

tysm! ✦GLORPK4✦  | 📡 01:08, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

they revereted my edit at Lilly Contino even though i added a source and they called it "nonsense" check my talk page for more info Astrawiki3203 (talk) 21:26, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

There's some really bad stuff happening at User talk:Long term abuse of babies. Can you please revoke TPA and revdel the edits? Thank you for responding. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 02:28, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

TPA revoked already. Joyous! Noise! 02:30, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

And rev/del on the edits that qualify. Joyous! Noise! 02:31, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 02:32, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

This edit to Shit Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 19:49, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Also this one to the same page Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 19:50, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

This edit also to the same page Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 19:56, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

And this one also Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 19:59, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Done. Joyous! Noise! 21:19, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I looked at the history of the page because I know that DAB pages with titles like this can be common targets for vandalism Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 21:23, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Noooooo! That would NEVER happen. Joyous! Noise! 21:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

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The Pigeon Detectives - Revert of the xylophone player.

1. Cheers, I actually got my first "Could not revert" error as you beat me to the punch :)

2. Did you find "Paul Spooner (drums, 2004)" in any of the cites? my revert was taking away both the former players not mentioned anywhere, But you only reverted the Xylophone player. Did you find source for Paul spooner?

Cheers! WikiPidge (talk) 00:50, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I didn't, but I wasn't looking for his name. Glancing at the tabs I still have open, I'm not seeing it. Joyous! Noise! 00:52, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Go to the evergreen high school page in Colorado he won’t accept the fact he’s wrong Astrawiki3203 (talk) 21:25, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) FYI, this is now at WP:AN/3. --tony 21:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure that he's wrong. I understand that Wikipedia is not a newspaper, but it's not outside the bounds of reason that a well-sourced mention of the event would be in the school's article. Whether he's right or wrong, you've got to drop the stick for a while, due to 3RR violations. Outside of obvious vandalism (which that is not), you can't revert to your preferred version right now. Joyous! Noise! 22:22, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I protected the page at the same time as you did but mine was only for one week. I put it back to two weeks. ... discospinster _talk 23:40, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

No worries! Thanks for all you do. Joyous! Noise! 23:41, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

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June Foray voiced Rocky the Flying Squirrel. 67.246.146.194 (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Could you give me some context for this comment? I'm not sure what you're talking about. Joyous! Noise! 13:17, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

No. 67.246.146.194 (talk) 13:19, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Not OP, but I'll provide the context anyway: earlier in the summer, there were a couple of rounds of vandalism to Rocky & Bullwinkle (2014 film), falsely claiming that David Spade had voiced the lead character in it. You were involved in reverting one round, and this IP was involved in reverting another.

So I don't know why 67 is bringing this up two months after the fact, to you (and me, even though I had nothing to do with it, and merely removed the page from a bunch of redlinked categories around the same time) instead of the actual vandal (who, in fact, has already been blocked) — and 67's also cruising for a temporary editblock of their own if they don't stop harassing people who had nothing to do with it — but that's the missing context. Bearcat (talk) 13:55, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. You should change your username to DetectiveBearcat. Joyous! Noise! 13:58, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Bullwinkle appeared the the Macys parade! 2603:7081:1F00:1BDC:5DED:FDF0:AEA6:FBC5 (talk) 01:12, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

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Can you please RD3 their edit summaries/edits? ~delta ^{(talk • cont)} 17:56, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't think those summaries rise to the level of disruption that warrents rev/del. They basically say "I don't like these folks," which, while not exactly civil, isn't all that terrible. Joyous! Noise! 18:13, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

@~delta:Had a conversation with another admin, who convinced me that rev/del was appropriate in this case. Sorry for the earlier refusal. Joyous! Noise! 19:51, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

Please revoke the ip's talk page access as this ip appears to be abusing it's talk page while blocked. Untamed1910 (talk) 03:11, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I thought I did that when I blocked. Clearly...not. Joyous! Noise! 03:13, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I saw someone added an unsourced addition to this guy's page that you reverted. It was then re-added which I reverted. Do you have the power to lock the page or otherwise prevent the back and forth without citation?

Thank you. Manamanadodododo (talk) 01:10, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Also note - when they redid it, they re-added a link that already existed and makes no reference to their claim. Manamanadodododo (talk) 01:12, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the message. We have the technical ability to lock a page if it's going through a lot of vandalism, but the rate of changes to Michael E. Farbiarz doesn't justify it, based on Wikipedia's guidelines. Your best bet is probably to add his article to your watchlist so you can see when it's edited. Joyous! Noise! 01:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Ok. I'm not on wiki much and randomly decided to log in when I looked up the guy, saw the claim, and tried to figure out its veracity. But if I happen to return and see it changed again without a source, I'll repeat the undo.

Thanks. Manamanadodododo (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

This IP has vandalized (including in own talk page) for many minutes without being blocked. Please remove some revisions by this IP from public view. Manualbadeditfix (talk) 03:09, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

plastic is an integral ingredient of siracha sauce 2600:1700:2C2C:3010:2813:1003:F52:19AF (talk) 21:45, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

Reliable source?? Joyous! Noise! 21:47, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

it seeps out of the plastic bottle 2600:1700:2C2C:3010:2813:1003:F52:19AF (talk) 21:48, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

Reliable source? Joyous! Noise! 21:48, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

is wikipedia a reliable source?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microplastics 2600:1700:2C2C:3010:2813:1003:F52:19AF (talk) 21:50, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't see a mention of sriacha in that link. Seriously, even if microplastics leach into a product from its container, that doesn't mean it's an ingredient. If you're going to add info like that, you really need to have a reliable published source that mentions sriacha specifically. Joyous! Noise! 21:54, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

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By an IP you blocked, User:67.81.46.91. Should they be blocked again? -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:56, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

I just gave them a final warning for unsourced content, and reverted a bunch of their edits. We'll see from here. I'll be going offline shortly, so if they continue, you can report at WP:AIV. Joyous! Noise! 04:25, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi. User:67.81.46.91 is continuing to vandalize Sia. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for keeping an eye on things. Joyous! Noise! 20:27, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. This is their 2nd 2-week block in 2-1/2 months. I am of the opinion that IP editing was useful to the project for its first 10+ years, but now I think we should require registration but let IPs suggest edits on the Talk pages. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:41, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

Hey there, unless I am missing something it appears that Dujfchhfjdhdhsy's edits were attempting to revert vandalism. Although doing so did sometimes revert to a previous edition of the page which still contained vandalism. Greyjoy ^talk 05:12, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

I think they were doing some of both. (and several others). I did adjust their block time down to 60 hours, and was in fact leaving them a message about that when you and I edit-conflicted. Joyous! Noise! 05:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

OH!! I see what was happening, and you were right. Will revert and apologize. Thank you for catching that. Joyous! Noise! 05:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

May also want to revdel the edit summaries across the /64, as they used the same language there. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 01:05, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Ugh. I'll need another cup of tea for this. Thanks for the heads-up. Joyous! Noise! 01:08, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

I have nominated an article for deletion. feel free to vote Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trichostylum rufipalpe Wizardics (talk) 23:55, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

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Most of this message was written by Mz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:48, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi Joyous! Have you read WP:/64? I definitely recommend following that advice. Twinkle has an option to do that by default for IPv6 too. (I just blocked 2409:40d0:ed:2637::/64 since that user had already been bouncing around different addresses within the /64 range. You had blocked a single address on that range while I was looking at it.) Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:49, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Hey Daniel. Weird, bec/ I generally DO block the /64, and it's my default on Twinkle. Let me dig around to see what happened....[moments later] Aha! They had multiple partial blocks, and Twinkle wouldn't do it, so I had to block by hand and didn't tick the right boxes because I don't normally do it that way. Thanks for catching that, so I'll be more careful in future when I have to [ugh] do the block the hard way. Joyous! Noise! 14:05, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Cool, no worries. You might find RangeHelper a little bit helpful for that since (among other features) it adds several quick navigation links including /64 links for IPv6 addresses. That being said, based on the administrative work you do, the script I'd really suggest you try is Unfiltered (it overlaps some with User:Ingenuity/AbuseFilterContribs which you use, but see the note at the top of that page). Daniel Quinlan (talk) 17:49, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

I cited in Morgan Jay's page "His father, Cayetano Venticinque, was a Sicilian singer who performed under the stage name Ricardo Roda. Venticinque moved with his family to Buenos Aires, Argentina, in 1948, later leaving Argentina during the 1970s. He died of cancer in Italy, in 1993, when Morgan was six years old." This was under the Early Life section. I was wondering if you could please explain why you deleted this section? Jay talks about it on podcasts and I've done the research and cited it for his page. Thank you. Edu.cast.diaz (talk) 23:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

My apologies: I honestly didn't see that part. I was reverting the change of name used throughout. Please feel free to put that back in, and again: I'm sorry I overlooked it. Joyous! Noise! 00:02, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. It's my first day as a Wikipedia editor. I'm still a little confused! :) Edu.cast.diaz (talk) 00:15, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

It can be SO confusing. Please let me know if there's anything I can help with. If I don't know an answer, I can send you to someone who does. Joyous! Noise! 00:25, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate that! Edu.cast.diaz (talk) 00:26, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

I see that there is a lot of unconstructive editing at Mar-a-Lago face, should the article be semi protected? The Great Epiphany (talk) 00:48, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

I just p-blocked the most recent problem. Subtracting their edits...I'm personally not quite ready to protect. I did add it to my watchlist to keep an eye on things. Joyous! Noise! 00:58, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

You might want to do a rangeblock on at least the /16, It doesn't seem like anything useful is coming from that range. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 04:45, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hi there,

Just wondering if you could kindly intervene as administrator with respect to disruptive editing by user The Kip on the Montreal Canadiens main wiki page? As you will note upon review, the user is undoing edits that pertain to accurate franchise leader figures amongst other things. ~2025-31820-38 (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

@Joyous! This temp account is a long-term abuser currently subjected to multiple ban-evasion blocks across multiple IPs, temp accounts, and sockpuppet accounts. I've reported them to WP:AIV and reverted their contributions as necessary. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:27, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Hey! I already pinged you on AIV but the bot removed it, so I'll ask you here if you can block the underlying IP of User:~2025-32851-32, as it is a proxy. Thanks! win8x (talk) 15:26, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi Joyous, I'm having concerns about the potential competency (as much as I hate to say it) about User:Magician Abby. There was an ANI thread last September about their good-faith yet questionable edits to Pennywise. They said (or at least implied) on ANI and on their talk page that they would get a mentor, but the edits have continued with no mentor in sight at the Adopt-A-User. They first started editing in August, and have received warnings from me and from other users for things such as a personal attack, vandalism (which they even admitted), several WP:OR and WP:SYNTH issues, moving pages without prior consensus, and more.

I know they are clearly trying to help, but I think they need to have someone hold their hand, especially since going to ANI did not result in much. I'd love to see this user contribute constructively, especially since their main article of focus is one I brought to GA. Can you let me know what you think should happen next? Gommeh 📖   🎮 23:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Wow. That's...a lot. She's clearly not getting what "original research" means. I've commented back to her at Talk:Pennywise. Maybe if we said something like "You should only add information that was written by another human who isn't Stephen King." I don't know if that would help. At some point, I think there's some willful misunderstanding, like not going through with the mentorship option. YOU have gone above and beyond with your patient replies. I'm impressed. Joyous! Noise! 03:32, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

I thought as much. Is there anything else we should do? I'd rather not resort to sanctions if I can avoid it, but Abby's good faith edits are more problematic than helpful. Gommeh 📖   🎮 04:37, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

I left a comment on her talk page, also. Let's hold off until she responds...somehow. Maybe we can decide how best to proceed after that. Joyous! Noise! 05:10, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Ps. Do let me know if she goes on a spree of problematic editing again. I'll try to keep an eye out, but some out-of-house commitments will have my attention diverted for the next few days. Joyous! Noise! 05:12, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Looks like she removed your comment from the article's talk page at Special:Diff/1322105587. Gommeh 📖   🎮 14:16, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

You may want to revoke TPA on the My Little Pony vandal you just blocked. They are block evading and did a lot of talk page disruption on their last account. TornadoLGS (talk) 05:13, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Dang it, I always forget. Thanks. Joyous! Noise! 05:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Drive-by comment: based on prior experience earlier this year, this may not be this person's first rodeo. If I recall correctly, there was a person (bot?) who was constantly putting links to a My Little Pony Friendship is Magic video in unrelated articles at random places. I hope it's not the same person. Gommeh 📖   🎮 14:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

It's Salebot Joyous! Noise! 14:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

It's not even their hundredth rodeo. Joyous! Noise! 14:25, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Who? Gommeh 📖   🎮 14:37, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Salebot's. They've got about a zillion different sockpuppet accounts. Joyous! Noise! 14:40, 14 November 2025 (UTC)