User:Lectonar/Archive 20

Thanks for protecting Morari Bapu. I am requesting you to add this content on page which was properly cited and was removed my unexperienced users. This content was objected but no proper policy was given and no one has responded back on Talk page. All of them have just declared that content should be removed without giving explanation of Wikipedia's any policy. If there will be any consensus then we can remove it later, for the instance, keep this as it is so that sources can be known because no account has responded back on talk page.

In September 2019, he had took sarcastic dig at Sahajanand Swami, founder of Swaminarayan sect, and said that, "To become Nilkanth (one name of Shiva), you have to drink poison. You can't become Nilkanth by eating laddus (referring to Sahajananda)."^[1][2] The comments triggered a controversy and saints from the Swaminarayan sect demanded an apology.^[2] He later apologised.^[3] -- Harshil ^{want to talk?} 09:16, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but you have come to a consensus on the article's talk-page. Protecting the page makes me involved, so I can't add content. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 09:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay! If users will not respond then can I post that users never responded?— Harshil ^{want to talk?} 09:24, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar! It's great to talk to you again! I hope you had a great day and that life is treating you well! :-) I just wanted to let you know that I changed the protection level that you originally applied to Popular Front of India from semi-protection to extended confirmed protection. Since the time you applied semi-protection to the article, two additional sock puppet accounts have made the same disruptive edits to it and after they added the same useless edits to their sandboxes in order to become autoconfirmed. The expiration you set for the protection was not modified; only the protection level was increased. I also noted this modification in the Arbitration enforcement log due to the article being within a topic where discretionary sanctions are authorized (India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan - per WP:ARBIP). Please let me know as soon as possible if you have any questions, concerns, or objections, and I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you (just ping me in your response so that I'm notified). Knowing you as well as I believe I do, I doubt you'll have any objections - I'm just letting you know about what I did in case you happen to have any. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:52, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Of course I have no objections, although I still find the situation surrounding EC-protections rather unsatisfactory. But perhaps one of these days some more enlightment will be forthcoming from ArbCom. Lectonar (talk) 07:55, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I'd rather not be involved with something sponsored by Google. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank You! Your help is appreciated.G. Capo (talk) 23:34, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

It's my pleasure. Lectonar (talk) 06:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

I would like to first thank you for protecting the page Lil' Fizz. Although I noticed in the history of the page it says 'indefinite' when you only wanted a 3 day protection. Don't know if I'm just seeing something wrong or if the wrong period of protection was selected. Just wanted to point it out in case it was a mistake. Thank you again! DeniedClub^{❯❯❯ talk?} 06:54, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

@DeniedClub: Thank you for the heads-up, I misclicked. It's 3 days now. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 07:04, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Lectonar: - I am participating in the Wikipedia Asia Month and was looking to create a biography on Lina Rozbih and Afghani journalist. In 2009, I see that you had asked for a deletion of the page. I wanted to seek your help in understanding if a page could be created now knowing that there are 10 years and in between and the person is notable. There are references that lead to the work that she has been doing. Thanks!--Parul Thakur (talk) 08:57, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

@ParulThakur:....I deleted the article in 2009; the whole article consisted of the following: " Lina Rozbih, an Afghan American, is host of the Voice of America Dari-Persian service." So if you think an article could now be created, go ahead (WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE might be helpful)...but keep in mind that you would need reliable, independent sources talking about the subject, and notability needs to be established. But perhaps I don't need to tell you all this, as you have written articles before. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 09:24, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lectonar: Thanks! Will keep the suggestions in mind and create it later today or tomorrow. --Parul Thakur (talk) 09:29, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Hey Lectonar, you usually do really good work around here and are often actively keeping garbage out of the WP:DOY pages. However, there's a recurring problem where you approve pending changes on WP:DOY articles where the addition doesn't have a direct source. I've tried talking to you about it a couple of times, here and here but you appear to have ignored these comments. You're still accepting edits like this. The requirement for direct sources is spelled out in the DOY content guideline, the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide and the edit notice on every DOY page - in addition to me bringing it directly to your attention.

Common courtesy would have had you reply to these polite nudges, and you're held to a higher standard as an admin. What's it going to take to get you to engage on this and stop accepting this stuff? Toddst1 (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your message; I am a volunteer (and yes, an admin), but I am not perfect. I wasn't too active in 2018, so chose to ignore messages which where older at the time of my reading. If you had a look at my contributions, you could have noticed that I indeed reverted things without sources repeatedly. And the last occurrence you linked to now was simply a mistake; it had a source, I decided to look at the source but was distracted by happenings in real life. When I came back, I thought I had already looked at the source and accepted the edit. Things like that happen. But I have taken your message to heart, and all DOY pages off my watchlist, so no more mistakes from my side. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:07, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, I see you declined the page protection for Welbeck Defence Sixth Form College, I didn’t even know you declined it (don’t have the page on watchlist) but I had already started a thread at ANI. Can you explain to me what you meant by “Always the same user...”??? Steven (Editor) (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2019‎ (UTC)

I just had an inkling that sock-/meatpuppets were editing...seems that was the case. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 06:35, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, I see you declined the protection request. How do I emphasize the importance of this page which is the primary source of providing correct information under the backdrop of nation-wide protests against a law? Would it so outrageous if wikipedia editors think beyond their policies? Samanvay.Agarwal (talk) 08:59, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Please read our protection policy. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 09:00, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I have read your protection policy and this is a high-risk template. Politically motviated vandalism has happened twice in two days. I'm not sure it is correct and responsible behaviour on part of Wikipedia to let misinformation linger around for even a second.Samanvay.Agarwal (talk) 09:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

It is not even a template. One or two instances of vandalism do not necessarily mean that an article has to be protected. Only articles subject to heavy and continued vandalism can (not must!) be semi-protected. The negative effects of semi-protection on discouraging positive contributions should be more of a concern than the positive effect of decreasing vandalism. Lectonar (talk) 09:04, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

≠ You would have not said that if you were aware of the situation in India. There is no further contribution to be made here. At least give it semi-protection. I'm sorry but this is highly unresponsible behaviour. There is going to be vandalism in the future. Samanvay.Agarwal (talk) 09:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

And extended confirmed protection is used sparsely. I think I can detect a hint of you trying to own the article. And you would do well to not cast aspersions, as you have been told before. In the present state, there is no need for protection. Lectonar (talk) 09:08, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Man, I must say I don't know what to say. I'm the only one guarding this article. See the edits by unknown IPs. Samanvay.Agarwal (talk) 09:10, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true. No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well L. MarnetteD|Talk 02:21, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers, your very good health. What a warming read :). Lectonar (talk) 07:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

You are welcome and thanks for the return wishes. I'm glad you enjoyed the story :-) MarnetteD|Talk 07:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Hello Lectonar:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Donner60 (talk) 05:47, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks (static)}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

A belated Thanks, and the same to you. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 08:16, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lectonar, Would you be able to translate this article for the German Wikipedia? I have been making requests to translators on the List of German translators. Have not yet had any replies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_graffiti_and_street_art_injuries_and_deaths — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyxyzyz (talk • contribs) 22:21, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I work the other way round, if I have some spare time, from German to English. Better to request this on DE-Wikipedia anyway. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 14:18, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, yesterday you refused protection on List of football clubs in England by competitive honours won‎, suggesting the IP/account be warned. Advise how this would be effective when each edit is made by a different IP address, thus making it hard to know if it's the same user (likely) or not? Either way, the recent history of the article shows consistent and continual edit warring/vandalism by new/IP accounts and I am surprised you did not accept this as a just reason for protection? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I simply misread. Page is semi-protected for 2 weeks now. Lectonar (talk) 11:35, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response and enacting the protection request. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Would it be okay if you could raise the protection level of the article from pending-changes to semi-protection? I just feel that the IP user that has been making questionable edits is just going to continue making factual errors on the article over the next three months. If you disagree, can you explain your reasoning? Thanks. Yowashi (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I explained in further detail on Yowashi's talk, but looking at the history, the vandalism is coming from a single /64 IPv6 range, which means it's like one individual behind the vandalism. I've blocked the /64 range for six months, so assuming this individual doesn't start using a new IP range, it may be possible to remove the protection from the article. Maxim_(talk) 19:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

@Maxim: thank you for doing that; I am always a bit hesitant to range block, especially with IVP6 adresses. @Yowashi: to explain why I did what: the disruption of the article did not rise to the level where applying semi-protection would have been necessary; yes, there was disruption, but it was drawn out over days and weeks, with days going by without edits at all, so pending-changes protection was the way to go here. Apart from the disruptive edits not going "live", there is a certain amount of frustration building up in the disrupting user(s) exactly because their edits do not go live. This has a deterrent effect. Cheers and happy editing to you both. Lectonar (talk) 06:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I recently saw you protected the page. A user named Boss1980011981 keeps putting unsourced information repeatedly. He claims that the hiring we're official by the coaches Twitter accounts which I find that really hard to believe. What should I do to resolve this? TheBigMan720 (talk) 05:14, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Neither on New York Giants nor the article's talk-page are edits by the User you mentioned. Could you elaborate a bit? Lectonar (talk) 07:08, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry my bad, Boss19801981 (talk · contribs) is the editor. I went to his talk page to reason with him already. TheBigMan720 (talk) 07:42, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Ah...I see now: you meant the template for the Giants. Lectonar (talk) 08:06, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Correct. TheBigMan720 (talk) 08:23, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Was bedeuetet das? 1Oh, and it needs to be submitted via the process laid out here. What might be happening today is of no relevance to getting an article reviewed, Lectonar. WP:NOTNEWS. --ColinFine (talk) 13:36, 31 January 2020 (UTC) Wname1 (talk) 13:50, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Just click on the bluelink...which leads you to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, and I think ColinFine intended to answer you, not me. I might be wrong though. Lectonar (talk) 13:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Can you remove the approving features on the Peter Pan article? --2607:FCC8:6242:B500:D4A:3679:51A:DBA1 (talk) 11:55, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Bring it up on the article's talk-page please, via an edit request. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 12:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

My bad, page is only pending-changes protected, so no edit request necessary. Just bring it up on the talk-page. Lectonar (talk) 12:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

This pages are constantly vandalised by a user can you help me protect the pages and can I know how can I protect the pages too Devendrakula Velalar & 1957 ramnad riots Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 07:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

1957 Ramnad riots Mamallarnarashimavarman (talk) 07:16, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

The perpetrating user has been blocked in the meantime; for page protection (only admins can do that, btw.), please make a request at requests for protection. Lectonar (talk) 07:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I know that this is the 3rd season of the show but Since this is a short season lasting only 2 months, the crew of the show are calling it Season 2.5 not season 3. Siddharth Nigam who plays Aladdin even corrected someone in his interview related to the show. please refer link that i share with you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OzX941UyQ. please correct AccordinglyAshish065 (talk) 17:59, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Please use the articles' talk-page to discuss changes. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:07, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Apparently User:WWGB disagrees with the renaming.

That's his prerogative; this probably needs a discussion anyway. Lectonar (talk) 06:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lectonar, hope you are well and safe. I saw that revdeleted an edit and the IP at List of Mr. Robot episodes. It looks like the editor who undid the edit has the IP in the edit summary, see this edit. Just wanted to make sure you are aware. -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, you're right...I often kind of forget the revert-edit....somehow it sticks in my mind that I somehow can't revdel the actual version of an article. It's done now. Lectonar (talk) 12:55, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Indefinite Extended-confirmed-protection required for Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data. It seems that protection is expired. Lot of vandalism has started. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 13:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

The article is semi-protected now, and for the moment that should be enough; if disruption gets more pronounced, we might consider extended-confirmed protection. Kind regards. Lectonar (talk) 05:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, in that article there is a content dispute. My last edit there wasn't about the content dispute. It was about technical issue but it got reverted anyway. So when I looked at it, I think the status quo ante version should be implemented. The RfC outcome should determine which version should be implemented. Could you revert to the status quo version while the page is protected? Thanks.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 02:22, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I only saw the edit war and protected without looking at the edits or their merits; reverting back to another version would make me involved, so I won't do it. And there is of course this. Let the discussion continue. Kind regards. Lectonar (talk) 05:55, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello. Can you please spare a moment to reply to this?— Vaibhavafro ^💬 11:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

As this is already archived at the time of my reading, I'll answer here. First, I would like you to read our protection policy, if you have not done so already. Let me quote a bit from that: semi-protection is applied to "...pages that are subject to heavy and persistent vandalism...". One edit per day at the most is not heavy, and it isn't vandalism either (see below). Pending changes protection on the other hand is a tool applied "... to suppress vandalism and certain other persistent problems while allowing all users to continue to submit edits." Even keeping in mind that there was another disruptive edit after the pending changes protection was implemented, the disruption does not rise to the level of needing semi-protection. One of the 5 pillars of Wikipedia is that it is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit. Protection is only to be applied sparsely. You said yourself that the disruption is not even vandalism, and most IPs edit with good faith, which should be assumed. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:33, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I belief this decision was made based on a mistake. There was no constructive IP edit, it was a self-reverted test edit. See Ymblanter's talk page for details. --mfb (talk) 15:59, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, you're correct; has been protected now. Lectonar (talk) 06:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, can you please tell me why you deleted my request for page protection? I'm going to have to request it again now and continue to be in an edit war with an unregistered user until the page has the protection it needs. --Osh33m (talk) 13:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Good morning. First of all, I have not deleted your request for protection, but declined it, and it has been archived automatically afterwards. Your renewed request has been declined by another admin in the meantime, with a little explanation from their side. If time permits, and you have not done so already, have a look at our protection policy. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Lectonar. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Universidad Internacional del Ecuador".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 08:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@JMHamo: Thank you, but I just created a placeholder draft for the article I had deleted some time before. Lectonar (talk) 09:56, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Lectonar, thanks for reviewing my request for page unprotection for Jared Dines. I'm just wondering if submitting a draft is the only way to reduce protection of this page. To me, it just seems a bit harsh to leave it on indefinite administrator access required. It has been 4 years since the initial decision to salt, and even back then I think leaving it indefinitely locked was questionable. If you stand by your initial decision I will respect it. Tbh I'm just impatient, waiting seven weeks in AfC is a drag! Mbdfar (talk) 17:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the late reply; to answer your question: no, it's not the only way, but as this is already in the queue to be reviewed, I would let it run its course. Indefinite salting is well with admin-disgression, btw. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:59, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, I am writing to ask for your help to deal with this situation. An editor suddenly made drastic changes to article Chai Keong Toh on 24 MAY 2020, such as: (a) name change from original "Chai Keong Toh" to "Toh Chai Keong", (b) changes to career posts by removing previous text with new ones without adding proof of information, etc. I realized the person mentioned in this article has been using this name "Chai Keong Toh" on many places, for many years, based on web search, his books, papers, PhD thesis, etc. Hence, it is appalling that the new editor had made a name change without discussion. Secondly, this editor had also included some new career information of the person but with no sources to the new information to ensure they are correct and accurate. Can I request your help to revert this article back to its original form dated 22 MAY 2020? Also, it may be good to add protection to this article (for a short period of time) if it is helpful. Thanks and looking forward to your reply. CanadaMaple123 (talk) 19:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, as the name change hasn#t been challenged really so far, it would be better to start a discussion on the article's talk-page, and make your point there. We are right in the middle of a bold-revert-discuss situation, so consensus building is necessary here, not reverting back and forth. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, discussion added on article's talk-page, thanks for your advice. CanadaMaple123 (talk) 10:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

On the Behemoth page, you removed sauropod from the list of "range of identities" offered.

Please explain. Every commentary I've ever read and just about any discussion I've been in on Behemoth has included sauropod as a candidate.

Even later in this same article citations are given to works identifying that that animal is very much in the "range" of identities offered.

Clearly it is not your preferred option. But to omit it in the opening discussion of range of options would seem disingenuous, wouldnt it? Bobwiley22 (talk) 11:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

That may be so, but the source which is provided for the introduction in the article (Metzger, Bruce Manning; Coogan, Michael D (2004). The Oxford Guide To People And Places Of The Bible. Oxford University Press. p. 33. ISBN 978-0-19-517610-0) doesn't mention Sauropoda afaiks. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 12:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I want to correct my earlier note! Having gone back and checked a few of my commentaries on Job, I was flat-out wrong! They don't mention sauropod as a candidate! Quite honestly, I'm shocked! It has definitely been in modern discussions I've heard on this passage. It is correct that Metzger (the cited source) does not mention it in his list of options. But since it is so clearly an option discussed in modern circles and resources, should we limit the statement to the options mentioned in only one source? That's a bit slavish. For instance, in Word Biblical Commentary on Job (by D.J. Clines, of which the same Bruce Metzger was the general editor), rhinoceros is not mentioned, but dolphins are. So do we want to list the "range of options" from only one source? My point is, since sauropod is a very commonly discussed option in the modern debate, it should be included in the range of options offered. I suppose I could just cite an additional source that discusses sauropods and add it to the citation alongside Metzgers. Would that satisfy you? Appreciate your work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobwiley22 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

It isn't really about satisfying me, as I only try to follow our policies and guidelines. I just checked the source provided, and, as you saw yourself, Sauropoda wasn't included in the list of options. You're of course free to add more alternatives if you provide sources for them, but I would keep in mind that not every possibility has to be included in the lede (as we only want to entice the reader to read the full story). I can see plenty of guidance how to do things here in Wikipedia has been left on your talk-page. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 12:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey,

A couple of days ago, you implemented pending changes on the The Short-Tempered Clavier and other dysfunctional works for keyboard article following my protection request at WP:RFPP die to persistent disruptive edits. However, even with the protection the IP anon is still being disruptive and edit warring at the article. While the pending changes prevents the edits from actually appearing in the article, myself and other editors have still had to revert this edit warring repeatedly. Pending changes doesn't seem to be sufficient. Is there a chance you could upgrade the protection to semi-protection? It would save us the effort of having to continually revert. oknazevad (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, disruption isn't still great enough to warrant semi-protection (3 edits in about 5 days), and more so as the edits are not vandalism per se, but just a different approach of doing things (stylistic or otherwise). As it is, communication via edit-summaries is rarely really satisfying for those concerned. I would say to bring it up on the talk-page, and form a concensus. Then it would be easier to label edits as disruptive. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 09:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Can you explain why you declined to protect Repunit? The most recent addition was two hours ago. Is that not recent enough? Six edits were made on 6 June, including this revert. Id that not frequent enough? The user was warned here but has chosen to carry on regardless without discussion. I really don't want to be involved in a tedious edit war to keep out uncited material, so please tell me what you think the way forward is. SpinningSpark 09:33, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, yes...the six edits by the same IP were not recent enough (and just by one IP), so they could have been warned more after the initial warning, and subsequently reported to AIV. Disruption which lies days apart does not necessarly warrant protection of any kind; please read our protection policy if you have not done so already. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

It's pretty clear that they intend to continue reinserting this material, but I'll revert them again and see what happens. The problem here is unsourced material, not vandalism, so AIV is not appropriate at all. I don't agree that policy prevents you from protecting the page in this case, it's a matter of judgement. SpinningSpark 09:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Reinserting the same things over and over again after being challenged not to do so in the end amounts to vandalism (which in this case takes the form of edit warring, and can be processed via said noticeboard); looking at the article history I stand by my judgement in this case, as the frequency of disruption is rather on the low side; if days go by without edits at all, it's not a case for semi-protection. Pending changes protection might be an option then. Lectonar (talk) 10:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting this page from random vandalism. However, Kraków-Płaszów concentration camp should be extended confirmed because of ArbCom restriction in this topic area. buidhe 11:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi. The Arbcom restriction says admins may use ec-protection preemptively. When I protected, there were no autoconfirmed edits which could be seen as disruptive, so semi-protection did (and still does) the trick. Lectonar (talk) 06:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting this page from random vandalism. However, A.C.A.B. is gone through a couple of reversions and is being hacked at rather aggressively. Would you consider locking it down? I believe [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A.C.A.B.&oldid=970063299 this is the stable version. --evrik ^(talk) 04:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I looked at it yesterday, and I looked at it just now....discussion is ongoing, tempers flare (in due measure), but since the discussion has picked up some speed, the article is not heavily edited at all. I still think that full-protection is not necessary atm, but the article is on my watchlist. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:15, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, could you please check the protection you put on Shalom House? The lock icon is not appearing and a bunch of error messages have appeared at the bottom of the page. Cheers! 𝄞: JohnnyB𝄬 ^{𝅘𝅥𝅮 Sing with me𝅘𝅥𝅮} 10:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

The article is protected (I checked again), the lock icon will be put in automagically by a bot during the next hours, and the error messages are due to an IP fiddling with the article shortly before I protected (this can be solved by normal editing). I won't do that, as I am now involved as I protected the article. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 10:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you. 𝄞: JohnnyB𝄬 ^{𝅘𝅥𝅮 Sing with me𝅘𝅥𝅮} 10:23, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, you have let someone edit a page with slander and then locked the page after the person edited it .. it is a business helping people. Please change it back to the Original set up before it was edited and locked . Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.16.97.142 (talk) 12:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP, feel free to bring this up at the article's talk-page. Editing by IPs on the article was disruptive, and so I protected. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 12:32, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

JohnnyBflat is actually the vandal of the Shalom House page .. please restore the page to it orginal edit .. isn’t ok to let a vandal slander a business and then lock the page so the business isn’t able to change it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.83.182 (talk) 12:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

If you require proof they are the vandal of the page please let me know and this can be provided — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.83.182 (talk) 12:41, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

As I said before....bring this up on the article's talk-page. FYI, Wikipedia is not a business directory. And if you are in any way connected to Shalom House, it would be better to mind COI. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 12:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Strange as it says at the top this is a talk page please leave your message below. I’m am not connected to Shalom House, I just so not agree with the changes that have been made to slander an organisation that helps many people. I realise Wikipedia isn’t based on any facts and in fact isn’t a creditable source. I would think you’d be smart enough to see the person above is the person vandalising a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.83.182 (talk) 12:58, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, the same IP's are also doing the similar disruptive editing to Community Newspaper Group page, possibly because it's used as a source on and has reported often on Shalom House. Could you also please consider placing protection of that page as well. Thanks in advance. CatCafe (talk) 13:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

The disruption there is not big enough to warrant protection. Better to warn the disruptors off and report at AIV or another pertinent noticeboard. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Lectonar for sending that message to ask me to clarify any doubts. However, it seems that the Wikimedia forums (or an equivalent that I've never used before) are down at the moment and won't be active or enabled for a time on my computer. For the time being, I would kindly like to state my position. Having seen similar pages with a similar format of honorifics from before I began editing. Most of the German field marshal pages I have perused (Erwin Rommel, Werner von Blomberg, Fedor von Bock, Hugo Sperrle) and selected high-ranking SS officer pages (Gottlob Berger) had military honorifics attached to them, so I added accordingly. I understand that what you messaged me about was not necessarily out of anger or feeling that my editing was vandalism, just a format that is undiscussed. On another note, 'matching' one page to another seems to also have no consensus, though this issue seems too universal and vague to ever reach a middle ground of any sort.

As for bringing this up, where should I? This seems too prevalent and widespread for a single page user talk discussion and also for a lack of a better term, not a type of frequently asked question since it requires consensus, so that rules out Teahouse. Aside from your brief thoughts on the rank prefix not being an honorific, I'd like to know your other thoughts on the matter.

If this discrepancy fails to go through on anything, I will politely abandon mass editing in such a fashion so as not to induce annoyance in the Wikipedia community.

If I'm correct, you sign like this.SuperWIKI (talk) 11:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC) {{u|SuperWIKI1||

Just the fact that it is used in other articles is no valid argument for doing it with articles allover (see WP:OSE). What struck me especially is that is almost exclusively used for Wehrmacht and SS personnel (which for me smacks at least slightly as a form of pov-editing, so lacking neutrality); if you have a look at Bernard Montgomery, e.g., there is no honorific used in the picture. To get another viewpoint, I also had a look at the German Wikipedia; de:Walther von Brauchitsch and many other articles don't use it, although some do. To bring this forward, I would start asking over at WP:MILHIST, and refrain from adding the honorific to articles for the time being. Lectonar (talk) 12:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Understood. I'll heed your instructions. SuperWIKI (talk) 13:43, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Quick facts Two years! ...

Precious

Two years!

Close

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Is it possible to protect my page for a day or so, I have been receiving very disturbing messages, which I ignore but distract me. Cheers Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 08:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Done, for 18 hours. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 09:09, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

You declined to semi-protect Milton Leitenberg. Could you confirm you understood an IP claiming to be Leitenberg wants to replace the article about himself with the official biography from his University, and when I reverted that he wrote "WE WILL TRY AND RETURN THE CORRECT BIOGRAPHY, AND CAN I PLEASE BEG YOU NOT -- NOT -- TO REMOVE THAT AGAIN."

Maybe I don't understand the mandate of those who close semi-protection requests, but surely stopping their announced plan to re-insert a WP:COPYVIO that also lapses from WP:COI would be sufficient reason to exercise discrection and apply semi-protection, even if it did not fall firmly within that mandate?

This was a huge COPYVIO. Geo Swan (talk) 15:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Good morning...yes, I did understand all that. The last edit by the IP on the article was on July 21st, and the other new users who edited the article might have been the same person or not. As it was, the article was (and is) not disrupted enough to warrant semi-protection, and for their declared intention to reinsert the same content: it was on your talk page (although in all-caps), but I am not the mind police....As it is: I watch the article since yesterday, and I would much prefer the IP to make more edits, and be blocked down the road for different reasons than to shut down the whole article. So I would warn the IP when a new disruption occurs, and proceed from there. If you think not protecting the article was a big thing, feel free to bring this up on an apporiate noticeboard. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:08, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

This is official LEN medals table for European championship! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.155.46.253 (talk) 13:55, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Please use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard to make a request at the talk-page of the article, as the page is semi-protected. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

While you were declining to protect Dorsett Wanchai Hong Kong Hotel, I gave it pending changes protection for a month. I will reverse that if you consider it unsuitable. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

That's ok....no need to change it. Personally I prefer to use blocks (after warning) if the perpetrator(s) are as clear as in said case. Protection, even pending-changes, is a crude tool to stop disruption, with much more impact, kind of like shooting on sparrows with cannon. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 08:08, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, I am new to this protection business, and I think that was the first time I had done a pending changes. I thought it suitable because the article was little edited by unconfirmed accounts in general, and it would prevent the CoI editors from spamming. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:18, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Admin's discretion :); there are many ways to do things. Lectonar (talk) 10:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Can user:150.104.190.139 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 14:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to have been late to the party; has been taken care of. Lectonar (talk) 07:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

• Protection log 05:32 Bradv talk contribs protected Newsmax [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (expires 05:32, 2 January 2021) ‎(Persistent disruptive editing) Tag: Twinkle

Bradv got it, I guess they didn't note it in the requests page. Thank you for checking on it! IHateAccounts (talk) 15:39, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Glad to be of help :). Lectonar (talk) 08:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I hope you are well? I wanted to ask you about the page you helped me move to Serbian Wikipedia last time. This time I wanted to add a Translation to English and I did translated it and moved it to English Wikipedia. The same article, that got approved, with same citations and sources this time is not enough. Can you please be so kind to help me with this issue. Thank you in advance. Dusan Rajic (talk) 19:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Dusan Rajic

Each Wikipedia has different rules for inclusion, so the existence of an article in one Wikipedia doesn't guarantee an article in another one. Just follow the hints given on the draft-page. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 08:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you unprotect this page to autoconfirmed user Susovan Sonu Roy, I want to edit this page.117.227.111.131 (talk) 09:45, 29 March 2022 (UTC) 117.227.111.131 (talk) 09:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Please talk to Ohnoitsjamie, but I don't think they will unprotect. An article should be written via a draft. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 09:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Lectonar: I have one question ... After creating this draft can this page move by Extended Confirmed user or not ?

First it would be better to get the draft accepted. As you know how to ping, I suppose you can also read protection logs of deleted pages? For the moment, you would need an admin to move the page to mainspace. Lectonar (talk) 11:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Lectonar: If I create this draft ... Will you help me to move that page ?

I am not a reviewer; I don't meddle. Lectonar (talk) 13:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Lectonar: ok, can you change the protection log to the Extended Confirmed ? So this can help me to create the draft.

See my first answer. Lectonar (talk) 13:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Sir I want to discuss with you for some information like cite and linking for create a page.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by POTIMANCH (talk • contribs) 16:07, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

And what is your question? Lectonar (talk) 11:23, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, can you please help me build this page back, and do it by Wikipedia standards and requirements, please. This is the info I got: 12:46, 29 September 2020 Lectonar talk contribs deleted page Rodolfo Correa Vargas (A2: Article in a foreign language that exists on another project: ES-Wikipedia, thrice deleted there for not meeting GNG) (thank)

As you explained, it was deleted three times. I would like to know how to recreate this page so that it is approved. Dr Vargas is a well known and appreciated personality in Colombia.

Thank you much!

As you said in your first email: "WE" would like to have the article back. Who is we? So let me point you first to our guideline about conflict of interest; please act accordingly if necessary. That being out of the way, there is still a draft to be found at Draft:Rodolfo Correa Vargas on which you could work; this will provide guidance for that endeavour. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 11:09, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello! I saw that you were the one to delist Relax (song) from semiprotection to PCR. I noticed that the page has almost all of the edits accepted and very little sourcing issues, so I was wondering if it could be un-PCR'd. Sennecaster (What now?) 02:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I have set pending-changes protection to expire in 3 weeks time...will still watchlist until then. Lectonar (talk) 06:46, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Quick facts Three years! ...

Precious

Three years!

Close

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

How time flies when one has fun. Thanks a million @Gerda Arendt:. Lectonar (talk) 09:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you must know that I suffer from rejectitis, a disease in which Wikipedians like you reject me. So if you try reject me, think again.

Doctorine Dark (talk) 09:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Always a good idea, talking to a long-time user like that :). Lectonar (talk) 19:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar. I understand you are a native speaker of German. I will be grateful if you will offer an English translation of the byline of this Deutsche Welle article, and as much as the remainder of the article as you have the inclination for (paragraphs 3, 4, 5 are the most relevant for WP purposes). It's for use in the article Julian Assange.

Google translate gives "A key witness for the indictment against the imprisoned Wikileaks founder revokes his testimony and MPs from almost all parties appeal to US President Joe Biden - but also to Chancellor Angela Merkel."

Thanks for your help. Cambial foliage❧ 13:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Cambial Yellowing: Hi....google translate is getting better, but I would translate it as follows: "A key witness for the prosecution against the imprisoned Wikileaks founder recants his testimony, and MPs from almost all parties appeal to US President Joe Biden - but also to German Chancellor Angela Merkel.".....tbh, I don't find the German byline to be terribly well written as such (it reads like it's been re-translated from English to German). I am not sure I can get around to translate the rest in the next days, though. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 13:38, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Lectonar. Cambial foliage❧ 14:11, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

to Block User:Kuwarjeet1996 and User:Eostrix for edit war in Sanātana Dharma157.49.252.124 (talk) 07:46, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Block User:Kuwarjeet1996 and User:Eostrix for edit war in Sanātana Dharma157.49.252.124 (talk) 07:47, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

This is continuing block evasion by 157.49.158.221 (blocked 31 hours for block evasion) stemming from the reversion of User:Indianculture2 and other edits by User:Sweetindian sockpuppets. Perhaps a range block would be called for given their continued activity.--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 07:52, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Article has been fully protected in the meantime, so this is stale. Lectonar (talk) 14:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Wishing Lectonar a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Best wishes! CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:37, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a million...16 years and counting. Lectonar (talk) 15:45, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey I was wondering why you deleted my sandbox page? The Tips of Apmh (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

I didn't, sorry. Lectonar (talk) 18:33, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Nevermind, I mistaked you for someone else The Tips of Apmh (talk) 18:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I see you you translate from German to English. I am in the process of creating an English article of a Dutch company, based in Enschede, near the German border. I have found a potentially useful resource, but the article is in German, so I am unable to read it, and since it's a pdf, I can't use online translators either. Are you able to translate this German article from page 79 to 82? It's for the the article Hollandia (matzah)(Hollandia (matzes)), and this article appears to have useful information about the Woudstra family, who opened the matzo factory in 1933, after escaping the Nazis in Germany. Jizzygizzyfoshizzyyy (talk) 13:24, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I probably will not have time for that. Lectonar (talk) 17:40, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Lectonar: Hello my name is RomanceLove88, so i was curious and thinking about Lucina page, if the page locked was expired, the other anonymous user will continued to vandalized again, can you change indefinite protection please? RomanceLove88 (talk) 07:33, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

@RomanceLove88: There is no need for that at the moment, as there are still about 11 months of protection left. And the goal is not to keep pages protected, but to leave as many pages as possible unprotected. Please have a look at our protection policy, if you ave not done so already. Lectonar (talk) 18:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi!

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18:13, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Lectonar,

I ran into something puzzling, it looks like here, you protected Sabareesan V so that only extended confirmed editors could create this page but a very new editor was able to move an unapproved draft on to this main space title. I've seen this happen before when page titles are protected, that editors who should not be able to create these pages are able to move pages on to these titles in main space. It seems like a way around page protection.

Am I missing something or should this problem be brought up elsewhere? Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm... I looked at it, and it seems the protection I applied before the deletion of the article died with said deletion. When I looked at the redlinked article-page now, it was only possible to create-protect it. So it seems to depend on the order in which you do things like deletion and /or protection. I will look at it a little more, but my guess is it might be intended. We just have to be careful for now. Thank you for pointing that out, @Liz:. Lectonar (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

To be fair, I do self identify as a dog on my talk page. Must be a friend of Trappist's. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I didn't block him for the black dog part...and I like Westvleteren beer, so also helping a trappist monk is the least I could do :). Lectonar (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

As a better source, I added a link to a longform interview that Kyle Kulinski did with Noam Chomsky.

I previously listed a twitter source, which, understandably, is not considered reputable.

I also added a discussion on the talk page.

-LyonsDen LyonsDen1995 (talk) 16:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello. As you're currently listed as a host at the Teahouse, I wanted to make sure you're aware of the imminent rollout of new Growth Team Features which every new account will be getting by default. Each users will soon see a new 'Homepage' tab next to their User page. It contains two main elements which might impact on your involvement - and you'd be welcome to get involved and help out directly with one of them.

• Firstly, they will be offered a range of 'suggested edits', and encouraged to make simple improvements to pages that interest them. (Being aware of this feature would be helpful for all Teahouse hosts if you're likely to offer advice on tasks for them to start out doing.)
• There's also a 'Your impact' box to show them how many people have seen the pages they've just edited.
• Finally, each new user is randomly assigned a 'mentor' from a list of friendly, experienced editors, like yourself. If they get stuck, they can ask a question directly to them via a Your mentor box, and hopefully get a swift, friendly answer from that mentor. Currently, this feature is given to 2% of new users, but it's set to increase to around 10% in the very near future.

To spread the load on our current list of around 65 mentors, I'm reaching out to ask if you'd like to help out and sign up as one? The workload is relatively small; User Panini! reports receiving four questions a month, on average, all of which were simple ones of the type we already get at the Teahouse and elsewhere, and I've had just the one in the last 3 weeks. To view a list of every question asked of all mentors over the last 14 days, click here.

If becoming a mentor and being available to help new users on their first few days here interests you - just as you already do at the Teahouse - then please consider signing up at Growth Team features/Mentor list. Existing users can already 'opt-in' to seeing the Newcomer Homepage features via their Preferences.

Thank you! Nick Moyes (talk) 10:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I signed up. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 13:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)