User:Wikieditor662/fairness
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"its foundation in a public sense of fairness that all humans possess. And because all humans possess this sense of fairness, there is no need for me to fix blame or praise." -Qian Mu
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I am planning on creating a group, and eventually a Wikiproject designed to ensure the rules and common sense among other things are followed on Wikipedia. This is a user page designed to map out the ideas in it.
Ideas for the project
Reaching out to users who feel mistreated
Members of the project could scan discussion boards, and offer help to users who are frustrated or otherwise seem like they need support. Users who are treated nicely will be more likely to be nice in return, follow the rules of Wikipedia, and do the same for others, creating a ripple effect.
Offering advice to users who ask for it
There could be a page designed for offering advice, in compliance with the rules of Wikipedia.
Reviewing articles or discussions to make sure that they are aligned with Wikipedia's rules (where users/members could request reviews)
It would be important to first remind users that we do not have administrative authority, and to avoid canvassing.
There could be a page dedicated to requesting having articles reviewed, under which members could check articles or discussions to ensure that they apply with the rules, such as civility and a neutral point of view.
Discussing ways Wikipedia can improve its fairness and treatment of users
This could be a page for dedicating discussions on how Wikipedia can maintain that its treatment of users and the information put out in articles is fair.
This could include discussing proposals for new policies and guidelines. An example of this would be to propose a new policy or guidelines designed ensure that Wikipedians have inalienable rights (which could apply differently from legal rights but would nonetheless apply).
What we believe
- We strongly oppose all forms of personal attacks, for any reason.
- You are allowed to hold any political and religious belief you want, as long as it doesn't interfere with the policies or guidelines. According to the WP:HID essay,
people who write articles about botany without letting on that they think the Holocaust was a hoax, or fix lots of typos and never mention that they think it was a mistake to let women vote. Wikipedia policy does not concern itself with people's private views.[6] The disruption caused by hateful conduct lies in the expression, not the belief.
This essay is accurate in its message, although it is mostly a hyperbole in two ways: first, the majority of users here are not holocaust deniers, nor do they oppose women's suffrage. Second, this doesn't only apply to writing articles about highways -- you can write about political topics even if you have strong opinions about them, as long as they don't interfere with the rules.
- Users should be treated with impartiality.
- Users should not be hit with a ton of bricks for making a mistake, nor should they be made into a constant state of fear of such thing happening.
Stages
Early
Improve this page, map out and discuss ideas.
Middle
Once we get at least 6-12 members, and we agree, we could propose this page becomes a Wikiproject. At this stage, we should maintain quality over quantity, and thus, instead of indiscriminately asking people to join, we instead ensure that our members are active, in good faith, and are useful for the project.
Once project succeeds
We could then expand, share the project with more people, use wikiboxes, banners, and maybe even drives.
Difference between this and the retention Wikiproject
| Difference | Retention Wikiproject | Our project | Things in common |
|---|---|---|---|
| Goal | Users staying on Wikipedia | Ensuring fairness | Helping others |
| Target | Users | Users and articles | Users |
| Focus | Wikilove | Reliable sources, neutrality, preventing conflict of interest. | Civility |
| Methods | Encouraging users to stay on Wikipedia | Sections dedicated for article or discussion review requests, discussing rules to see whether any chances would improve fairness among users | Outreach methods to users |
| Scope | Individual | Wikipedia-wide | Individuals affected |
| Other differences | - | Countering not just individual problems, but systemic bias across Wikipedia | - |
Rules to follow
- Notability/GNG. Pay attention to General notability guideline (when someone says your article fails GNG, they mean this one)
- Significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV): ensure that your topics have decent coverage in scholarly works or the media (especially these green sources mentioned here, for the media). Generally, but especially regarding the scholarly sources, pay attention to the matter of self-published sources. Wikipedia does not ban self-publishing sources, but it can only be used in a limited way (only when it comes from the subject themselves, but avoid promotion content; in any case, all articles should be built on mostly third-party, high quality sources).
- If the subject is a living person, please notice that biographies of living persons have additional requirements, and contentious materials that are backed by a single source or a few fringe sources tend to be deleted.
- If they are a professor/scholar, see WP:PROF, as there are specific sets of requirements.
If you want to see how rules and guidelines are often interpreted in practice, it is useful to look at previous debates, such as Wikipedia deletion debates by countries and topics
If you meet an user with ideas different from yours, try to engage with them directly through dispute resolution (use the page's Talk page or that user's own user page), but if the user displays behavioural problems that you believe might violate Wikipedia policies, you can bring it to Administrators' noticeboard
In all cases (except for these), even if you face a very annoying user, don't step on Three reverts (3rr)
List of current users
This was taken from the members list of the guild of copyeditors.
Feel free to add yourself to the top of the table below. For further instructions, click "edit source" and read the light grey text (instructions) or, for editors using the original wikitext editor, click "edit" immediately above and read the hidden commented text. Some users on this list may no longer be actively editing.
| Name | Date of joining | Comments |
|---|---|---|
| Wikieditor662 | 29 November 2025 | Founder |
| Deamonpen | 29 November 2025 | |
| RogerYg | 29 November 2025 |
Miscellaneous
Despite our differences, most Wikipedians just want what's best for Wikipedia and for the world.
Sun Tzu said it best:
"For the men of Wu and the men of Yueh are enemies; yet if they are crossing a river in the same boat and are caught by a storm, they will come to each other's assistance just as the left hand helps the right."