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Pageswap

Having recently gained page mover rights I've used your pageswap script to make a few non-controversial cleanup moves. A couple of observations:

  1. As I read WP:ROBIN, "Page A" has the preferred title and "Page B" has the preferred content; initiating the move on Page B rather than the other way around seems to give that page the cleaner edit history.
  2. Using the scrip to swap talk pages only (i.e. where a talk page has become misplaced) results in awkward title constructions like Draft:Move/Talk:Seoul National Capital Area. I guess this doesn't matter though?

Anyway, thanks for providing the script and since I'm new to this I'd appreciate any constructive advice you may have. PC78 (talk) 20:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@PC78: I'm usually not too concerned with "clean" page histories, but yes, starting on "B" should give you less clutter there. I'm also not too concerned with the title of the Draft page since it is quickly deleted. You could route it through Draft talk:Move, but I think that makes the edit histories a little harder to read. --Ahecht (TALK
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@PC78: Sorry, I read your message a little too fast the first time, and missing that you also asked for any advice. The best I could give would be to always check all four moved pages from your contributions page until you get a feel for the sort of weird things that can happen with redirects after multiple moves. I'd also brush up on your WP:RCATs so that you can categorize moves properly (the most common ones I come across for moves are {{R from former name}}, {{R from alternative name}}, {{R from incorrect name}}, {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}, {{R from incorrect disambiguation}}, {{R from other capitalisation}}, {{R from miscapitalisation}}, {{R from alternative spelling}}, and {{R from misspelling}}). --Ahecht (TALK
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Speedy deletion nominations

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@QueerEcofeminist: Thanks for catching that. That text on those pages had been in place in the Climate of Brazil article since 2010, so I had just assumed that someone would've caught any issues with it over the past 9 years, but according to the Internet Archive, the text on brcactaceae.org predates it by at least a few years. I should've done a copyvios check before forking the article. --Ahecht (TALK
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Climate of Brazil by region

A tag has been placed on Category:Climate of Brazil by region requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 18:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Redirect reverted

2019 Brazil wildfires

Could you do it please? It was requested on the talk page for this article. Thanks.Oceanflynn (talk) 01:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for supported my recent, albeit unsuccessful RfA. Your support was greatly appreciated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:51, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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"Page notice" template: List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters

Hello! You added the "Note to editors" page notice template to the original list in July 2018. Due to size, the list has been divided into one for 1970s–2000s, and one for 2010s. The new split-off list needs the Page notice. Could you please add the template to: List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters (2010s). Thank you! Pyxis Solitary (yak) 09:16, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

@Pyxis Solitary:  Done. Are you planning on moving the page with older characters to List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters (1970s–2000s)? --Ahecht (TALK
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Hi. Thank you so much. I did move the "part 1" page to List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 1970s–2000s.
I followed the preference in WP:NCSPLITLIST for split article titles. Now I have to figure out how to rename the 2010s ("part 2") split as List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 2010s -- but not do it as a redirect. Pyxis Solitary (yak) 07:32, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
@Pyxis Solitary:  Done I have page mover permissions, so I was able to move the page without creating a redirect. In the future, you can request things like that at WP:RM/TR. --Ahecht (TALK
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Ahecht, thank you. You might think it silly, but I am overwhelmed by your thoughtfulness and initiative. You are a generous and kind editor. Thank you. Pyxis Solitary (yak) 00:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Modifying the source in the GTA table template

Have a template question for you regarding Template:GTA table. Historically, Amusement Today would release their annual Golden Ticket Awards publication listing the top 50 wood and steel coasters in the same PDF (100 coasters total) and we'd simply provide one reference to cover everything. Since about 2016 or so, it changed to only list the top 25 in each category in that publication, but on their website, they would publish the entire list at two separate links (one for wood and one for steel). So this creates a reference issue at roller coaster articles that use this table. The citation still points to main publication only, so roller coasters that rank lower than 25 aren't being cited correctly.

I know just enough to copy over the same configuration each year and update the URL at the template, but I'm not sure how to incorporate separate URLs for each year. If you can fix it for 2019, I can go back and replicate what you did for the other years that need it. Basically, when the "type" parameter in the table is specified as "wood", the reference used in the table needs to point to 2019 Top Wood. And when it's "steel", it needs to point to 2019 Top Steel. Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can lend! --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@GoneIn60: I created a version of the template that uses the website for years since 2016 at Template:GTA table/sandbox. Try it out on a few pages, and if it works, I'll copy the code over to the main template. --Ahecht (TALK
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Just tested it on a wood and on a steel coaster...works great! Excellent work! Thanks for figuring it out and already gathering the URLs for each year. I'll drop a note on the talk page as a formality. Again, many thanks for your help! --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Just checking in to see if you could circle back around to this when you get a chance, thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 06:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
@GoneIn60:  Done. --Ahecht (TALK
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Orlando's Summer of Love Sourcing question

Ahecht,

Help! A few years ago you pointed out a flaw in my sourcing in a stub article that was subsequently merged and deleted. Talk:Orlando,_Florida#Merger_proposal

(768073072 2017-03-01 Term coined by a single reporter is not notable enough for its own article. Merged to Orlando, Florida#Local culture)

That source was from 1998 but there is also a new 2017 source that also use the term that was not previously discussed and I wanted to ask you whether the WP:SUSTAINED coverage of the term Orlando's Summer of Love was sufficient coverage to use as the title of an article on this era in Orlando. This era in Orlando has the sourcing to show notability but needs expanded content and a title.

I need to know what to fix besides just citations and content and whether the other concerns about the subject and sources supporting deletion are actually legitimate or policy-based. I have asked the nominator and others and strangely none accept the quite valid single reporter concern or understand why the new source is relevant.

However, the nominator for deletion has/is making absurd claims. He is claiming that the single reporter concern was never the reason it was nominated for merge/deletion. His reasoning, was just it bad, not one comma of context, and that none of the fifteen sources added after our (you and I) interaction had anything to do with the subject and/or weren't expansive. etc. I am to date, having trouble reaching the deleting editor and was hoping you could somehow offer or provide some form of clarity somewhere, or help, or sanity...

please see (this will take some time):

Thank you again, Johnvr4 (talk) 19:29, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

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