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Revision of the page: Delete Skype History (software)
Seanwud (talk) 18:15, 11 November 2014 (UTC) Hi Ahecht, today you marked my first wiki page Delete_Skype_History_(software) for deletion. As far as I understand the reason is that it contained references to the program web-site. I've removed the reference in the article body. Is it Ok now or I should review something in addiotion?
- @Seanwud:That wasn't the reason it was nominated. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delete Skype History (software) for more information. Your article didn't establish the notability of the software, which must be done by providing references to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. —Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)- @Ahecht:Thanks for pointing me to the real reason. I've created the article as the programs have a big number of thankful users who want to recommend the applications to others. I've reviewed similar articles at Wikipedia and don't fully understand why you consider our software is less notable. The programs offer unique features (that no other software does) and, in deed and not in name, sometimes save our customers in very delicate situations. Probably you haven't found many relaible external references as the program name contains normal English words and there are many discussions on Internet using these words. Independent software reviews have been published on industry-influencing web-sites, e.g., and we expect several others soon. Therefore I want to ask you to leave the article for a couple of weeks and then reevaluate the software significance. - Seanwud (talk) 19:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Seanwud: Softpedia is not an independent source, it's user-generated content, as they simply publish whatever the submitter of the software writes (I know, I have my own software published there). Your article needs to show what other people are saying about your software, not what the software publisher says about it. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:22, 11 November 2014 (UTC)- @Ahecht:In general, you are right about submitter's content at softpedia. But I would never point you to such article if I said the independent editor (Mihaela Citea) wrote the review. And be sure we didn't request the overview. Examples of our descriptions are and . If you like, I will collect a list of independent overviews for your convenience. And if the programs help users to resolve their particular needs, i.e., protect their privacy, why don't give the uses a chance to read the article (written in a neutral language without any promotion voice) and supplement it with their opinions? Seanwud (talk) 21:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Seanwud: Softpedia is not an independent source, it's user-generated content, as they simply publish whatever the submitter of the software writes (I know, I have my own software published there). Your article needs to show what other people are saying about your software, not what the software publisher says about it. --Ahecht (TALK
- @Ahecht:Thanks for pointing me to the real reason. I've created the article as the programs have a big number of thankful users who want to recommend the applications to others. I've reviewed similar articles at Wikipedia and don't fully understand why you consider our software is less notable. The programs offer unique features (that no other software does) and, in deed and not in name, sometimes save our customers in very delicate situations. Probably you haven't found many relaible external references as the program name contains normal English words and there are many discussions on Internet using these words. Independent software reviews have been published on industry-influencing web-sites, e.g., and we expect several others soon. Therefore I want to ask you to leave the article for a couple of weeks and then reevaluate the software significance. - Seanwud (talk) 19:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
quires about the declining of article of interference of biological sociological and psychological actiity
Hello, Sir I want to ask some questions from you about the declining of article that I can also give the references to my article from the books of well known phillosophers of ancient times like Cant Bergsant and another but I did not know their publishing history and did not know how to cite thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamid bin qasim (talk • contribs) 12:29, 15 November 2014
- @Hamid bin qasim: All statements in your article should cite a source. You can get instructions on how to cite sources at WP:REFBEGIN. If you need publishing information on a book, you can usually find it at Google Books or Amazon. However, you must make sure that the books are specifically talking about "interference of biological psychological and sociological activities in fighting activity" and that you aren't writing a synthesis of published sources. In addition, you need to edit your submission to correct the grammar, capitalization, etc, and it needs to be broken into paragraphs and have a proper introduction to provide context for those not familiar with the subject. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:51, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Cambiar el nombre de usuario
I wish to usurp username ahecht at es Wikipedia for SUL. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, see usurp request. Greetings Hprmedina (talk) 17:47, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
{15:39:06, 17 November 2014 request for review by AmarnathManju}
Thank you very much for all your help. Really appreciate it. I have made the changes and re-submitted the draft. Just wanted to clarify if it is okay to link to other articles in Wikipedia via Wikilinks feature. If so could you please explain how to use this feature - your explanation makes it very easy! :) Thank you once again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmarnathManju (talk • contribs) 18:19, 17 November 2014
- @AmarnathManju: To make a wikilink, use the name of the article in your text and surround it with double brackets. For example, if you wanted to link to the article on Calcutta, you would type
[[Calcutta]]. If the link you have created shows up in red, it means that the name in brackets doesn't exactly match an existing article title (and capitalization matters). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Help with Robert A Needham page
Hi Ahecht! I appreciate your input on the page I'm creating for Robert A. Needham. I saw you noticed a discrepancy about not using the proper citation for content derived from the book Collaborative Commonwealth. I was wondering if you could give me some input on what was the potential copyright infringement in the draft for the page and if it's a direct quote or should be paraphrased. Also, I grabbed content from the About the Author section and was wondering if I have to cite that or since it's from Robert's bio not cite it. Thank you so much for your time!
Alexprplus (talk) 18:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Alexprplus: The issue wasn't improper citation, the issue was that you either copied or closely paraphrased from a copyrighted source, which is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. All text in your article must be written in your own words (not just copied or closely paraphrased) AND should include a citation for where the information came from. Even if you cite your source, you still must use your own words. See WP:COPYVIO and WP:PARAPHRASE for more info. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for responding so quickly! So I'm not supposed to use quotes at all? I'm a little confused because I see quotes on other Wikipedia pages. Are you only allowed to use direct quotes from what people say then? Like in interviews? Thanks! Also, were using what Robert wrote on his Wikipedia page and I figured that would be okay to cite from the author his own content for his Wikipedia page. So it's still copyright infringement if we use content from the person we're creating a Wikipedia page for?
Alexprplus (talk) 18:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Alexprplus: Direct quotes can be used in certain limited situations, such as quoting a few words from a review of a book, but they must be indicated as a direct quote and in quotation marks. However, Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and direct quotes from primary sources have very limited use. See WP:QUOTE and MOS:QUOTE. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:33, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I see! Thanks!
Alexprplus (talk) 19:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
20:41:46, 17 November 2014 review of submission by 82.245.127.107
82.245.127.107 (talk) 20:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- @82.245.127.107: The entire "Biography" section didn't reference any sources. See WP:REFBEGIN for more info. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews
Hello Ahecht. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.
The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.
If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)
If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using {{db-g12|url=URL of source}}. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with {{subst:copyvio|url=URL of source}}.
Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors.
I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC).
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draft:Avatar (Avatar album)
Dear Ahecht,
I noticed that my article was refused, in order to mention more reliable sources. But, as a proud fan of Avatar (Swedish band) since 2008, I know all the information I detailed was exact, true, genuine. I was only unable to find some good sources to prove you and the rest of the viewers that these infos weren't false. The band wasn't really known when this album came out, and good sources would be found in the search engines' suggestions of Sweden regions (where the band is coming from). If you could give me a little help about, I would sincerely appreciate it. Regards,
Gabriel Patrick Cabana (talk) 00:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Gabriel Patrick Cabana: Unfortunately, the standard on wikipedia is that information be verifiable, not that it be true. Because Wikipedia can be edited by anybody, and anyone can add or change information anonymously, people that use Wikipedia need to be able to see where the information came from to verify that it is correct. However, assuming that you can understand the Swedish sources and that no English-language sources can be found, you can cite Swedish sources. See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources for more info. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:26, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
External links
Hello! Thank you for your feedback on my article. I was just wondering: you mentioned I would have to remove external links. Apart from references, I don't really have too many external links. What should I do?
Thank you!
Looking forward to your guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 478 58m (talk • contribs) 10:09, 19 November 2014
- @478 58m: I still see several external links. External links will have a
icon next to them -- there should be no
s in the body of your article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:11, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Ahecht: Thank you! I didn't realise those were the external links - I was considering them references. Yes, now they are gone.
The Orchard School
Good Morning! First of all, thanks so much for your help!! I really appreciate it. I thought my least submission yesterday met all of the guidelines, but I'm clearly doing something wrong. Below is what I wrote:
'The Orchard School is a private, independent school in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States of America. It was founded in 1922.
It is located at 615 W. 64th Street, near Holliday Park. It has Preschool through Grade 8 and enrolls 600 students a year.
Is that okay? Thank you!
Good Morning! First of all, thank you for your help!! I really appreciate it. I thought my last submission would be okay, but it was rejected. Can you help me, please? I wrote something like the following:
The Orchard School is a private, independent school in Indianapolis, Indiana. It was founded in 1922. It is a Preschool through Grade 8 school that enrolls 600 students a year.
For more on The Orchard School, you can read the book, The Path Well Chosen. You can also go to www.orchard.org
Thanks so much! Grodecap (talk) 14:46, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Grodecap: That's fine from a copyright standpoint, but from a content standpoint I don't see any evidence of what Wikipedia calls notability. All Wikipedia articles must be about subjects that are notable, and for a K-8 school this must be demonstrated by meeting the standards of WP:ORG or WP:GNG with citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE ) 15:11, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! I added a link to a book that was written about the school. I also added a link to the school's website. Is it okay now? Should I take off the website and just leave the link to the book? Thanks again for your help. Grodecap (talk) 15:22, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Grodecap: Please see WP:REFBEGIN for the proper way to cite websites and books. It's fine to include the official website as a reference to verify information, but it doesn't indicate notability. "The Path Well Chosen", while also a good source to verify information, was published by the "Orchard School Foundation" and is therefore not independent of the subject and doesn't indicate notability. In order to show notability, you have to cite what other people are saying about the school, not what the school says about itself. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:51, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Draft:Eoin Mcnamee (Irish Republican)
Hi - Im a new contributor and Im having problems understanding exactly how to cite a online newspaper article. Ive inserted the reference for the above article but still get an error message. I appreciate any help/fix you might offer, you have my permission to correct any errors. Thanks. Palisades1 16:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Palisades1: I cleaned up the code of the draft a bit. You just need to put
<ref>before your reference and</ref>after it, not<ref><ref>and</ref></ref>. You also should put the reference in the part of the article's text where you want the footnote to appear, not at the top of the article. Everything between the<ref>and</ref>tags will show up automatically in the "References" section and a link to the reference will automatically appear in the text. However, I removed the reference you added entirely because the linked article had nothing to do with Mcnamee. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:53, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Eoin McNamee reference
Thanks for helping out on my first posting. I understand the reference process and will use that format in the future. I did open the link for the Irish Echo newspaper article and McNamee's time in Chicago and his activities are mentioned in the 7th paragraph. Palisades1 20:20, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Palisades1: I was referring to the reference about Rupert Murdoch. The Irish Echo reference is fine and I left it in the article, but I removed the reference to http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1601858,00.html which seemed unrelated. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:15, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
The Orchard School
The Orchard School is a private, independent, progressive school in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States of America. It was founded in 1922. It is a Preschool through Grade 8 school that enrolls 600 students a year.
The Orchard School is accredited by ISACS, or the Independent Schools of the Central States.Grodecap (talk) 21:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Please read through WP:ORG and WP:GNG that I pointed you to before. A listing from an accreditation agency is considered routine coverage and is not considered to be an indication of notability. I very much doubt that this school is notable enough for its own Wikipedia page (most schools with grades below High School are not notable), although it might be worth a mention in the Washington Township, Marion County, Indiana article per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Request for re-review : Simon Montague Russell
Thanks for your quick review and feedback. I've made the updates required and resubmitted. I was wondering if we could make the title Simon Russell (actor) rather than Simon Montague Russell?
Thanks again
M77m (talk) 03:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- @M77m: You can move it yourself to the new name. Click on "More" in the upper right and choose "Move". --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:46, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Ahecht: Thanks again for the response but there is no "More" in the upper right of any page I can find? I'll keep looking but some further info would be great. Thanks.
M77m (talk) 11:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Done @M77m: Sorry, it's been a while since I was a new user, I guess you have to be WP:AUTOCONFIRMed to move pages. I'll take care of it. —Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Ahecht: Thanks very much for that! Much appreciated.
M77m (talk) 11:23, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
"SHOOTING CLERKS" KEVIN SMITH BIOPIC
Hi Ahecht,
We are trying to help get the page through, we have added some more articles that proves it's notable, one is in Entertainment Weekly! Not sure what else we can do? Kindly assist. -- thank you.
- http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/11/26/kevin-smith-clerks-biopic/
- http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/shooting-kevin/241693/kevin-smith-to-cameo-in-kevin-smith-biopic
- http://www.inquisitr.com/1637996/kevin-smith-will-cameo-in-his-own-biopic/
- http://www.avclub.com/article/kevin-smith-appear-crowdfunded-kevin-smith-biopic-212379 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.38.129.125 (talk) 14:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Eoin McNamee (Irish Republican)
Thanks for your help in cleaning up my first attmept at posting. Ive added two pictures and three refernces. I think the article is ready but hope that you can take a minute to verify that Ive used the correct formatt etc. Again, thanks for your help. Palisades1 15:34, 30 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palisades1 (talk • contribs)
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