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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).

Administrator changes Barkeep49 Beetstra • KillerChihuahua • Kusma Arcadian • Extraordinary Machine • Xeno JamesBWatson → JBW Interface administrator changes Evad37

CheckUser changes Courcelles • SilkTork • Timotheus Canens Oversight changes Courcelles • SilkTork • Timotheus Canens

Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

Technical news

• As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.

Arbitration

• The 2019 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place October 4th to 10th.
• The arbitration case regarding Fram was closed. While there will be a local RfC focus[ing] on how harassment and private complaints should be handled in the future, there is currently a global community consultation on partial and temporary office actions in response to the incident. It will be open until October 30th.

Miscellaneous

• The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Statue of Thomas Cass until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. From AnUnnamedUser ^{(open talk page)} 03:05, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

*sigh* ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Another Believer. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Unfollow the Rules".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (📧) 09:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

CptViraj, I've requested restoration. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

No problem, Happy Editing! -- CptViraj (📧) 17:06, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Another Believer

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Onel5969 and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Broken Tour, should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Broken Tour.

You might like to note that such discussions usually run for seven days and are not ballot-polls. And, our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Onel5969}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ . Thanks!

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

• On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
• There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
• Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar

• In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
  • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
  • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
  • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
• Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theo Germaine until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Bearcat (talk) 21:00, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Stub just needs expanding... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:34, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

	US Banknote Contest
	November-December 2019
There are an estimated 30,000 different varieties of United States banknotes, yet only a fraction of these are represented on Wikimedia Commons in the form of 2D scans. Additionally, Colonial America, the Confederate States, the Republic of Texas, multiple states and territories, communities, and private companies have issued banknotes that are in the public domain today but are absent from Commons. In the months of November and December, WikiProject Numismatics will be running a cross-wiki upload-a-thon, the 2019 US Banknote Contest. The goal of the contest is to increase the number of US banknote images available to content creators on all Wikimedia projects. Participants will claim points for uploading and importing 2D scans of US banknotes, and at the end of the contest all will receive awards. Whether you want to claim the Gold Wiki or you just want to have fun, all are invited to participate. If you do not want to receive invitations to future US Banknote Contests, follow the instructions here

Sent by ZLEA at 23:30, 19 October 2019 (UTC) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk)

Miss'd America was just listed as a good article, but Legobot appears to have processed this incorrectly, removing the entry from WP:GAN as "maintenance" rather than "passed". Have you seen this sort of thing happen before? Is it possible the bot will catch its own error, or is it acceptable in this case to add the GA icon to the article manually? Armadillopteryx^talk 02:44, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx, To be honest, I'm not sure, but I'd go ahead and try adding the icon manually and just keeping an eye on things. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:58, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I just noticed that the reviewer posted a question about this at Wikipedia talk:Good articles, so I'll wait a little while and see if someone replies there. Otherwise, I'll just add the icon manually and keep an eye on it, as you say. Armadillopteryx^talk 03:02, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Adam Cuerden (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 91 featured pictures, including 32 in the final round. Our finalists this year were:

1. Adam Cuerden (submissions) with 964 points
2. Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 899 points
3. Casliber (submissions) with 817 points
4. Kosack (submissions) with 691 points
5. SounderBruce (submissions) with 388 points
6. Enwebb (submissions) with 146 points
7. Usernameunique (submissions) with 145 points
8. HaEr48 (submissions) with 74 points

All those who reached the final will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field. Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

• Casliber (submissions) wins the featured article prize, for a total of 7 FAs during the course of the competition.
• Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 14 GAs in round 5.
• Yashthepunisher (submissions) wins the featured list prize, for 4 FLs overall.
• Adam Cuerden (submissions) wins the featured picture prize, for 91 FPs overall.
• MPJ-DK (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 7 articles in good topics in round 2.
• Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 14 did you know articles in round 5.
• Muboshgu (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 7 in the news articles in round 1.
• Ed! (submissions) wins the reviewer prize, for 56 good article reviews in round 1.

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition, not forgetting User:Jarry1250, who runs the scoring bot.

We have opened a scoring discussion on whether the rules and scoring need adjustment. Please have your say. Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2020 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth 14:18, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Administrator changes GermanJoe • Girth Summit • Kees08 • Nosebagbear DESiegel • GB fan • MSGJ • Voice of Clam • WilyD DeltaQuad • Fang Aili • Pakaran Bureaucrat changes DeltaQuad • Pakaran Interface administrator changes MSGJ

CheckUser changes L235 • Mz7 • SQL • ST47 Ivanvector DeltaQuad Oversight changes L235 • Mz7 • ST47 • Stwalkerster • The Blade of the Northern Lights • Xaosflux DeltaQuad • DGG • Julia W

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.

• The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).

• A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration

• Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.

The article Odd Man Out Tour has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No assertion of notability; cursory search does not reveal sources that suggest why this particular tour is notable standalone from musicians' careers.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 20:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your work on Boston-area buildings and monuments and so on -- particularly your quite good images. I have a request, and a proposal.

The request is that seen at Talk:Statue_of_John_Harvard#Photo_ideas, though I think better than a closeup would be a retake of File:JohnHarvardShinyFoot24June07.jpg more carefully done so that the inscription shows clearly, if that's possible. But be sure to include the window (or the window over J.H.'s other shoulder, if the lighting is more favorable or whatever) to serve the caption.

The proposal is that we collaborate on List of gates of Harvard Yard, which I stubbed at . If you'll take the photos I can do the text. And if you're a glutton for punishment, List_of_Harvard_College_freshman_dormitories and Category:Harvard_Houses need a lot of improvement, image-wise. EEng 05:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

EEng, Thanks! I was in Boston/Cambridge recently for a conference. I'm still in the process of uploading my photographs from the trip, including some of the Harvard gates, but I can't really respond to image requests since I don't live locally. I am very interested in the Harvard gates list, and even creating new stubs for specific gates. I will be traveling again soon, but I will keep this on my radar and continue uploading and organizing my pictures at commons:User:Another_Believer/Boston and commons:User:Another Believer/Cambridge, Massachusetts. I have hundreds more to share. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Great work! I don't have a good camera and anyway I'm not a very good photographer. If you'll be returning to Cambridge at some point contact me and perhaps I'll have some suggestions. Offhand I didn't see any MIT pics so there's fertile ground there, and in particular we could use a better version of File:MIT_RageWarehouseIreProof.jpg (about which I plan to write a short article).

At the link above the gates are listed in circumferential order (I think) so if the spirit moves you, you could make a complete round. Thanks again for all your hard work! EEng 17:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

EEng, Yup, I've already left Boston/Cambridge and I don't have plans to revisit, so I can't really honor requests but I'll continue to upload my photographs at the aforementioned links. I've also watchlisted your sandbox with the gates list, which I'm looking forward to seeing expanded. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for adding all those images! EEng 17:40, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

EEng, Sure thing! I'll add more as I continue uploading and labeling my photographs. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

If you want, you could move/copy content over to Draft:Harvard Yard gates or Draft:List of Harvard Yard gates so other editors might help out. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:43, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I want to hold it close for now because I've got a lot on my plate for the foreseeable future, and I intend it to be a DYK, which has that stupid 7-day rule. If someone moves the draft to live the 7-day clock starts. Once I've got time I'll get the hardcopy sources and get going. EEng 20:12, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

EEng, Just FYI, someone is unlikely to move the draft into main space without asking, especially if there's a note or template at the top of the page explaining the 'work in progress'. I hope you have a moment to revisit this list soon. Either way, Happy New Year! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:48, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

The day will come that I'll be able to give substantial attention to this topic, but it's going to be AT LEAST another 6-12 months. I'm committed to getting Moors Murders into shape first and that's a huge job on which, because of personal matters, I've been able to do very little beyond reading a two the book-length sources. In the meantime you're doing invaluable, wonderful work which I hope you'll continue. You're right about drafts but I've had bad experiences along those lines so if it's all the same to you I'd rather keep things as they are; if I die you have my permission, of course, continue our noble work in whatever way you see fit. EEng 21:59, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hello American friend, I would like you to answer me a question and I want to know if the people in your country have hated Mexicans, my editions are seen as pro white, they cause rejection, I only add the paintings I see in online books or in museums but of who the fault is if all paintings are awesome. I want your opinion if you like to answer must I continue expanding Mexican articles and highlighting Mexican history because the only thing I have seen is serious insults towards Mexicans made even by the Latinos themselves and all other groups, and wikipedia is seen by everyone, and I am almost certain that it is because of the editions that I make--BrugesFR (talk) 16:28, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

BrugesFR, I'm not sure I follow what you're asking, nor do I care to speak on behalf of Americans as a whole. Are you experiencing problems on specific articles, or with specific editors? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:34, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I say this because of the amount of comments on the social networks that talk about it. but I ask you why you follow me each of all the articles that I edit of Mexico but it was just a random question, it's not important that you answer--BrugesFR (talk) 16:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

BrugesFR, I'm sorry you're seeing negative comments on social media. The Internet can be so ugly sometimes. I'm not sure how to reply, but to your second point, you should know I'm not following your work. I created a lot of stubs for sites I saw in Mexico City and Puebla last year, so I often see your name in my watchlist as you make changes to those articles. I've appreciated your feedback re: naming conventions as well. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:07, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for answering, I thought you said like you don't want, as you pleased, to speak on behalf of Americans as a whole, "nor do I care" translated in Spanish is "no me da la gana" which is a form of expression to cut a conversation badly, as if you care about a brown cake not speaking on behalf, stupid spanish and its words full of offense, and excuse me for answering you like that, I got it wrong, I think so. Ok but what I was going to ask you that, because it has become viral to offend and hate Mexico, since I think one week ago, and obviously it has to do with my work in Wikipedia, and that hate, words and videos and everything on Youtube, Twitter and FB (and even sometimes in a tv channel of my country! haha), it comes from the countries of the rest of Latin America, the United States, Canada, latinos, whites, blacks, anyway, am I doing wrong? I am not even from that country, I am only from a country with much less things to be proud of, from a one of poorest South American country, so, I ask you to tell me, let's see, I continue filling the wikipedia of articles, paintings, and old photos, of Mexico? or stop? Am I doing wrong or good for the prestige of that country? If I continue at that rate I don't know what will happen, if they are going to make a world touristic fience to Mexico, and the rest of Latin America, and nobody is going to say that he is Mexican. I'm sorry if I'm asking you something that doesn't concern you, but I ask because I once thought that you also cared in some way about the Mexican country, or its buildings.--BrugesFR (talk) 21:49, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

BrugesFR, Sorry for how the sentence translated, but when I said "nor do I care" I was not trying to be rude, I was just saying I don't want to speak on behalf of others. I'm not really sure how else to response here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't want to be rude either, but I felt like I was talking to my dog--BrugesFR (talk) 21:57, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi :-) a few days ago I sent you an e-mail, did you receive it? --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 10:42, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Superchilum, I did! However, I am currently traveling in Japan, so I'm not sure I have time to take your survey before the deadline. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 10:43, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

You can have more days of course if you need them, don't worry :-) it's less than 10 questions, quite quick. Let me know if you're available. --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 10:44, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Superchilum, You're welcome to send the survey and I'll see if I have time. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 10:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much ;-) --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 10:48, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

@Superchilum:  Done I completed the survey real quick while taking a break in my hotel room. Hope this helps! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 10:59, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

It does! Thank you very much for your help ;-) good bye. --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 11:01, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

There isn't enough content for an article. There's 117,000+ malls in the US alone, so not every mall can be added just because it exists. Additionally, if it's only point of note is the Daikanransha ferris wheel, then the notability is not inherited and it'd likely be merged/deleted to that article. — IVORK _Talk 00:47, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

IVORK, Palette Town is an entire complex. I am currently traveling (in Japan) but will add more sourcing ASAP. I'd still appreciate a move over the redirect into main space (with a tag to add more sourcing), but understand if you're unwilling at this time. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

I'll restore the request on WP:RM/TR and leave it for another editor should they wish. The fact wasn't about US malls specifically, but just the overwhelming commonality of malls worldwide meaning WP:EXISTS&WP:NOTINHERITED applies in my opinion. — IVORK _Talk 00:57, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Agreed with the above. Even the error at Draft talk:Palette Town specifically states that "Template:Requested move is not for moves from draft or user space.", followed by instructions. Add the sourcing before the move, there's no need to move to the mainspace just so you can add more sourcing. -- /Alex/₂₁ 01:07, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Alex 21, I've moved plenty of drafts into main space via RM (when I can't move over a redirect), but no worries. Thanks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's no reason you can't write right over the redirect if you want. Just copy and paste the draft, since you're the only author and there's no attribution history to worry about. Station1 (talk) 03:29, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Else you do have extended mover perms Another Believer. The only difference between you and I is that I use the WP:PAGESWAP tool. I can't write over a redirect if it has anymore than just creation in it's history either. That tool is all you need to conduct these moves yourself. — IVORK _Talk 01:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019).

Administrator changes

EvergreenFir • ToBeFree

Akhilleus • Athaenara • John Vandenberg • Melchoir • MichaelQSchmidt • NeilN • Youngamerican • 😂

CheckUser changes

Beeblebrox

Deskana

Interface administrator changes

Evad37

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
• Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

Technical news

• Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

Arbitration

• Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 2 December 2018 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous

• The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF will no longer use partial or temporary Office Action bans... until and unless community consensus that they are of value or Board directive.

Guild of Copy Editors December 2019 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the December 2019 GOCE newsletter, an update of Guild happenings since the September edition. Our Annual Report should be ready in late January. Election time: Nominations for the election of a new tranche of Guild coordinators to serve for the first half of 2020 will be open from 1 to 15 December. Voting will then take place and the election will close on 31 December at 23:59 UTC. Positions for Guild coordinators, who perform the important behind-the-scenes tasks that keep our project running smoothly, are open to all Wikipedians in good standing. We welcome self-nominations so please consider nominating yourself if you've ever thought about helping out; it's your Guild and it doesn't run itself! September Drive: Of the thirty-two editors who signed up, twenty-three editors copy edited at least one article; they completed 39 requests and removed 138 articles from the backlog, bringing the backlog to a low of 519 articles. October Blitz: This event ran from 13 to 19 October, with themes of science, technology and transport articles tagged for copy edit, and Requests. Sixteen editors helped remove 29 articles from the backlog and completed 23 requests. November Drive: Of the twenty-eight editors who signed up for this event, twenty editors completed at least one copy edit; they completed 29 requests and removed 133 articles from the backlog. Our December Blitz will run from 15 to 21 December. Sign up now! Progress report: From September to November 2019, GOCE copy editors processed 154 requests. Over the same period, the backlog of articles tagged for copy editing was reduced by 41% to an all-time low of 479 articles. Request archiving: The archiving of completed requests has now been automated. Thanks to Zhuyifei1999 and Bobbychan193, YiFeiBot is now archiving the Requests page. Archiving occurs around 24 hours after a user's signature and one of the templates {{Done}}, {{Withdrawn}} or {{Declined}} are placed below the request. The bot uses the Guild's standard "purpose codes" to determine the way it should archive each request so it's important to use the correct codes and templates. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators; Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist. >>> Sign up for the December blitz! <<< >>> Participate in the Coordinator elections! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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A tag has been placed on O'naturel requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, a group of people, an individual animal, an organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content, or an organized event that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. SunCrow (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Good job on catching those sources, that's what I'm looking for the articles. I actually searched before but I could only find anything but album reviews. Sp many articles that shouldn't exist at all and they do, mainly regarding music. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:16, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

MarioSoulTruthFan, Happy to help, but please be careful about nominating articles for deletion unnecessarily. These were obvious keeps, to me, if you simply go some online searching at Google News. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:17, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I have to try google news more often I guess. I had other stuff nominated if you want to help. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:21, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

MarioSoulTruthFan, The point is to check for sources before nominating. I am not interested in following up inappropriate nominations by expanding articles, but I suggest you withdraw nominations if you think sourcing exists for the others. I am only interested in saving articles I've started or worked on before and have on my watchlist. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:23, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

The sources on the articles or on the talk pages weren't good enough. I even added one in a page that was missing it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:25, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

Administrator changes Dreamy Jazz • Newslinger • Rosguill Deor • Spartaz • Xeno Angusmclellan • clpo13 • Edgar181 • Matthewedwards • NCurse

CheckUser changes Bradv • Casliber • David Fuchs • Maxim • Newyorkbrad • SoWhy • Xeno Oversight changes Bradv • Casliber • DGG • David Fuchs • Maxim • Newyorkbrad • SoWhy • Xeno Someguy1221

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
• A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
• Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.

Arbitration

• The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
• Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Bradv, Casliber, David Fuchs, DGG, KrakatoaKatie, Maxim, Newyorkbrad, SoWhy, Worm That Turned, Xeno.

Miscellaneous

• This issue marks three full years of the Admin newsletter. Thanks for reading!

The article Nail in the Coffin has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unfortunately fails every opportunity for notability given in WP:NALBUM: It has only one media mention, has not charted, is not certified gold/platinum, not nominated for an award, no notable medium, was not (AFAIK) in national radio rotation, and was not covered by national broadcast TV reporting.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Shrinkydinks (talk) 08:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imago Theatre (Portland, Oregon) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

*sigh* ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Plaza del Sol (Gresham, Oregon) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:30, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

letmegooglethatforyou.com ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

So, tell me: Why is it that you are trying to convince everybody to contribute to Draft:Stupid Love (Lady Gaga song) and yet, you ignore the fact that there is already an existing draft for Draft:Birds of Prey: The Album? You clearly saw this when creating Birds of Prey: The Album, as articles that don't yet have mainspace entries but do have drafts pop up with a box saying "There is a draft on this" while you're editing. The draft is an obvious tactic to have your work overwrite someone else's. You obviously don't care about working on others' drafts, so why should anyone else care about yours? Ss112 20:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Ss112 I am genuinely confused. When I searched "Birds of Prey: The Album" on Wikipedia, I saw a red link. I saw a notification saying a previous version of the page had been deleted, but I did not see that Draft:Birds of Prey: The Album existed. I honestly thought I was creating a new article because a draft did not exist. I'm not sure what I overlooked. Also, we've been over this before. I'm fine drafting when an article in the main space is not yet possible. If others want to collaborate on those drafts, great. If not, that's fine too. I don't have a problem moving drafts over redirects in the main space, regardless of who created the redirect (myself included). If someone moves their draft over a redirect I created, I move on to other things. Not a big deal. We're beating a dead hose here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Ss112, To clarify, when I searched for "Birds of Prey: The Album" and clicked on the red link, I saw the page had been deleted/moved to Birds of Prey: The Album (Draft), which also appeared as a red link (and still does). This is why I did not know about the other draft page. Does this make sense? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

I feel like you're acting like you don't know what I'm talking about. You created Birds of Prey: The Album in mainspace only yesterday (January 25). By that point, the draft had already been moved to the correct location for drafts (in this case, Draft:Birds of Prey: The Album) several days prior. Yes, it was originally moved to Birds of Prey: The Album (Draft) and this would have shown, but as I just said, it had already been moved to the "Draft:" title. Please don't act like you don't know that you saw a "There is a draft for this article" box when you created/edited the Birds of Prey: The Album. That shows up when you go to make a new article and there is already a matching Draft: space article for the same title; you know this. For a random example of a draft: Draft:Food Aid Dependency in Ethiopia is a draft. If I go to create Food Aid Dependency in Ethiopia, before you even click "Create this page", the page displays that there is a draft for the article. Even then, if you click "create this page" and go to start editing, before you even get to the editing box, it shows there is a draft for the article. You would have seen this. I just don't think you care. You would have made the article regardless of whether there is a draft on it or not. That shows a disregard for your fellow editors' work and a care only, or at the very least, primarily, for your own. Ss112 22:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

The only reason you're "not doing this again" is because you just got called out for ignoring the box showing that there was a draft because at first you played dumb. In future, I will not care if you have drafted an article and the box shows: I'll make it regardless, since you don't care for anybody else's draft, therefore I don't think anybody should care for yours. Move my comment into the collapsed box or revert me, I don't care. Your actions on Wikipedia like this go to show that you are very dishonest, sneaky and self-important. You like to put up a front that you're a benevolent do-gooder who stays out of drama and is only here to better the encyclopedia, but your actions speak louder than your words. Remember that. Ss112 22:54, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Maybe instead of removing tags on ridiculous stubs that you've created, you could spend some time and add the missing information instead of hoping, or expecting other users to do it for you? You know, you spend all this time doing other things of a day but can't seem to be bothered working on articles you've created. Regardless, don't remove valid tags that highlight concerns about articles you've created. Thank you. Ss112 00:56, 31 January 2020 (UTC)