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Indian military history case opened

The Arbitration Committee has opened an arbitration case titled Indian military history in response to an arbitration enforcement referral. You are receiving this notice because you are a named party to the case and/or offered a statement in the referral proceedings.

Please add your evidence by June 5, 2025, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage.

For a guide to the arbitration process, please see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction. For the Arbitration Committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Kindietunnel on User:Kindietunnel (08:11, 22 May 2025)

Hello how can i add a picture --Kindietunnel (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Kindietunnel, and welcome to Wikipedia. Please see HELP:IMAGES for instructions on how to add pictures to Wikipedia pages. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 17:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Need to report a user for vandalism

Hi @Asilvering, happy friday! I was hoping you could advise on the best way to report a user who repeatedly edits their own name or vandalises an article. It appears to be a conflict of interest, as they're editing a page about themselves which is not allowed, and I've had to revert the changes multiple times now (over a dozen click here). Several editors have left edit war templates on their page which they ignore. Would appreciate your guidance on the correct process—thanks so much. Kellycrak88 (talk) 17:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@Kellycrak88 be very careful about characterizing edits as vandalism as none of it Wikpedia's definition of vandalism unless what they are adding is a provable intentional hoax. It does appear to be disruptive though and looking at their history it appears their focus is Baronage of Scotland. Are their recent edits under different IPs or only 178.255.168.165? S0091 (talk) 19:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Understood, I think it's only that IP Kellycrak88 (talk) 19:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Wow this guy is really insistent. Recently, they've been by more often than once every two weeks, so I've given a two-week block to start in hopes they get the message. Experience suggests that they won't, however, so if they make that same edit again once their block expires and they still haven't managed to talk to anyone about it, let me know and I'll block for longer. -- asilvering (talk) 21:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from KrubhaLEJ (01:51, 24 May 2025)

Hello, how do i create a Wikipedia page --KrubhaLEJ (talk) 01:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @KrubhaLEJ, welcome to wikipedia! You can use WP:WIZARD to create your first article. I don't really recommend doing that, though - it's much easier to write new Wikipedia articles once you've already got some more experience editing articles that already exist. -- asilvering (talk) 03:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you KrubhaLEJ (talk) 07:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Malcolmpw (09:43, 24 May 2025)

Hello. Structure about 'John O' London's' weekly refers only to a literary reference in Angela's Ashes. However there are many references to this publication in. ' The Midnight Bell' a contemporaneous novel (1935) and the first part of The London Trilogy, Twenty Thousand Streets Under the Sky, by author and playwright, Patrick Hamilton. The protagonist of the novel, barman Bob, takes and reads this periodical regularly in order to educate himself and improve his chances of becoming a writer. --Malcolmpw (talk) 09:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello @Malcolmpw, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm a bit confused on what your question is, do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Grumpylawnchair (talk) 15:37, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
No I didn't have a q. I just was wanting to add a comment re the literary periodical, popular between the wars inp the 20th c., John O' London's' Weekly. 2A00:23EE:1308:5908:FFFF:2810:CE79:9CD (talk) 17:13, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

GS proposal closed

Hey asilvering, I wanted to let you know that I closed your proposal for a new community general sanctions regime at WP:VPR as enacted. You can find the permalink here. Thank you. -qedk (t c) 19:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Awesome. I assume this means I now have a lot of paperwork to do somewhere. -- asilvering (talk) 05:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
I think I handled most of it, feel free to update things if something is not done. --qedk (t c) 09:25, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Aruunn (05:08, 25 May 2025)

Hello, how can i protect my articles and edit from others as there is one guy who is deliberately undoing my edits either manually or otherwise. what can i do in this situation. for e.g. i have created article List of former chief justices of the high courts of India that guy is removing my list and is adamant on creating new separate articles for list of former chief justices of every Indian high courts. He removes the list in this article and gives explanation that this article is messed up and incomplete and too long. I reverts this edits but he instead of talking and reaching consensus everytime reverts my edits. How do i protect my list. Another example in article list of sitting judges of the supreme court of India in particular section of additional information about judges i made link of the article of list of former chief justices of high courts to show that sitting judge was the former chief justice of any particular high court and i made link of not the whole article but only of section for example if one sitting judge is former chief justice of tripura high court then i made link of that particular section List of former chief justices of the high courts of India#Tripura High Court but still that particular guy is removing links by giving explanation that aricles list of former chief justices of tripura high court do not exist. I am literally helpless about his behaviour he is not listening to my explanations and just reverting my edits and if i do the same he reminds me of edit warring policy. Kindly help me and guide me what can i do to stop this or if i am wrong in making this edits then tell me the right way please --Aruunn (talk) 05:08, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Aruunn, the short answer to how can i protect my articles and edit from others is: you can't. Everything you write on this website can be edited by others, and with every single edit you make, you have agreed to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and GFDL.
But that doesn't mean you need to give up entirely. Normally what happens is you go to the talk page to work things out. In the particular case of List of former chief justices of the high courts of India, I'm not really sure what the problem is, though. For example, here, you've reinstated a list, saying that you're doing so because there is no separate article for that, and the other editor reverts your edit, and points out that there is a separate article with that list already: . So, that seems solved, to me? -- asilvering (talk) 05:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
the problem is that the article I am talking about is consolidated list of all former chief justices of Indian high courts and other editors is talking about separate list of former chief justices of each high court but there are 25 high courts in India but list of former chief justices is of only 4 to 5 high courts so to create list of former chief justices instead of creating new 28 articles i have created a consolidated list just like List of sitting judges of the high courts of India which is consolidated list of all sitting high court judges. I have created consolidated list for all High courts but that guy is deleting the list of that high courts for which separate list exists but my point is if in consolidated list 4 to 5 high courts' list is not included then the list would be incomplete and couldn't be consolidated. That's why i am restoring that list but that guy is reverting it and told me to create 25 separate articles for all high courts by citing vague reasons such as this consolidated list is messed incomplete inaccurate and there is no record of former chief justices and so and so reason but i have created this list by adding references of list of former chief justices of each and every High court obtained from official website but still he is adamant on creating separate 25 articles and removing the lists of high courts from List of former chief justices of the high courts of India for which separate articles exist. What should I do in this? Aruunn (talk) 07:40, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Have you had a talk page discussion with this other editor? If so, can you provide a link to it? -- asilvering (talk) 12:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
yes but I don't know how to provide link of talk page but i can tell you that the said discussion is on the talk page of List of former chief justices of the high courts of India. Aruunn (talk) 15:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
You just add "Talk:" in front of it, like so: Talk:List of former chief justices of the high courts of India.
I don't think you've had much of a conversation with this other editor yet. They've explained their objections, so now you need to work with that - are they legitimate objections? Can you come to some kind of agreement that makes both of you happy? Try to understand their position first. If you can't agree, you can ask for a third opinion from an uninvolved editor at WP:3O. -- asilvering (talk) 18:27, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
okay thanks for your guidance Aruunn (talk) 18:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Removed from WP AfC Participants

Hello @Asilvering, I noticed that my username was removed from the list of participants for Articles for Creation. See this edit you made here. I'm just curious if this means I am out of AfC. Best, Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:03, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Ktkvtsh: Guessing by Asilverling's edit summary, the removal was because you became a new page reviewer. Per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#How to get involved, new page reviewers can review pages without being an AFC participant and do not require their names to be in the list to use the helper script. So yes, you can still review AFCs the same way you did before. Best regards, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 22:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Wonderful! Thank you. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:16, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Yep, that's correct. You're "out" in the sense that you have a real perm now and don't need the pseudo-perm anymore. The list would be pretty frighteningly long if we left all the admins and NPPers on it. -- asilvering (talk) 23:56, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Properties confiscated from Jews under Nazi rule

Thank you for the suggestion of Category:Properties confiscated from Jews under Nazi rule as a category. I've added a few properties, and will add more as I find them. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 00:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Notice of Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

A voice of reason may be needed about Talk:Ó Comáin. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
I can only hope one will show up. I've certainly had no luck. When extremely normal solutions like "email copies of inaccessible sources to editors who question them" and "when you know your major changes are likely to be disputed and need to reach consensus, demonstrate them in a draft and not the article itself" are dismissed out of hand, there's not much that can be done from an advisory perspective. -- asilvering (talk) 05:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
As I think you know, I meant that you had tried to provide a voice of reason at the MFD. What I am reading into your statement is that you are concluding that other editors are not listening to reason, and that you are not sure what can be done now. Neither am I. But if there has to be a dumpster fire, it might as well be at WP:ANI rather than in a content forum. Ick. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Hi Asilvering, this might be my last message here if Fram’s objective is fulfilled. I just wanted to say thank you—for your involvement, your efforts to de-escalate, and your willingness to engage in good faith throughout what has clearly been a stressful situation for everyone involved.
That said, I do think it’s important to note that if an ANI thread was going to happen, it really should have included Fram directly. He’s consistently treated me with hostility since the previous ANI he initiated against me was closed with no action. Since then, nearly every interaction has been marked by efforts to undermine, dismiss, or escalate—rather than offer constructive, collaborative feedback.
It has often felt as if Fram monitors all of my contributions, always waiting to challenge or discredit them. I believe he was the one who originally nominated the Ó Comáin surname origin article for deletion—and when it was kept after community discussion and consensus, the tone of interactions with me only grew more adversarial.
In the current ANI, Fram is making sweeping claims about copyright violations, POV content, and source misrepresentation—taken out of context and framed without regard to the image situation or edits I’ve made in good faith (or it being a Draft article which I asked for input).
His language at MfD—especially calling for me to be “booted off Wikipedia completely”—speaks for itself. Whatever content concerns exist, I don’t believe those kinds of comments have any place in a community-led editing project like this.
I’ve done my best to engage constructively, improve the quality of the article, cite reliable sources, and revise anything challenged. Without context, however, Fram is now attempting to paint a very one-sided picture.
Regardless of the outcome, I’m grateful for your efforts and neutrality throughout, and for your willingness to guide the process when very few others were willing to engage calmly.
It might be policy that this message belongs on the admin board—I honestly don’t know—but I’m posting here on your Talk page (I never privately message anyone) for transparency, so it’s open for anyone to read.
Thanks again, all my best Kellycrak88 (talk) 09:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
In conclusion, you're right that Bastun has issue with me because you sided with me on the Killone issue, that he was obstructing. Fram has issue with me because his last report to admin, in which I was thoroughly dissected, resulted in no action. That lingering animosity from both seems to be what’s driving this now. Kellycrak88 (talk) 09:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
"Fram has issue with me because his last report to admin, in which I was thoroughly dissected, resulted in no action." No, I have issues with you because the editing pattern which lead to the initial ANI section, and which were widely criticized there, have not changed despite your everpresent promises to do better (which basically lead to the previous ANI being closed without action then). That he-is-mean-because-he-lost-story doesn't explain why I was acting the same before I 'lost'. Perhaps my problem really is with your editing issues, and not with sour grapes? But feel free to claim that claims about e.g. copyright violations are "taken out of context" somehow, as if claiming someone else's photographs as your own work has a context that makes it acceptable. Fram (talk) 09:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Case in point — I didn't even tag him here, but all good you're here Fram. The image issue was a genuine misunderstanding, which I clarified with Asilvering and was corrected. I'd prefer not to be at cross purposes with you—truly. I'm not sure what it would take to get on the same page, but I'm open to that. Kellycrak88 (talk) 09:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
You are aware of the concept of a watchlist surely? I don't need to check your contributions to see you posting here. Fram (talk) 09:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Then my assumption seems correct—you’re monitoring all my edits, perhaps using an automated third-party tool. It often feels like you’re just waiting to pounce the moment I contribute. This is unnecessary, and frankly, a bit stalkerish, Fram.
Looking at your own edits, you seem to be on Wikipedia 12 hours a day, every day, hundreds of edits each day, policing others. That’s not healthy, and it creates an environment for you, that’s more hostile than helpful. I’d much prefer if we got along—and, like Asilvering, you offered helpful constructive feedback instead. Kellycrak88 (talk) 10:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
I don't think anyone could call me best buddies with Fram, but please do not say things like that, Kellycrak88. I strongly advise you take a short wikibreak, forget about this article, and look at something else. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Noted. Fram, I’m frustrated—but genuinely, I’d rather not be in conflict. I extend an olive branch in the hope we can find some reconciliation. If we could move toward a constructive feedback approach, I think that would be very positive. Kellycrak88 (talk) 11:15, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
(talk page watcher). Hmm. I think this thread speaks for itself.🙃 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
@Kellycrak88, I don't understand how you could possibly come to this conclusion. You have a watchlist. I've got a watchlist. We've all got one. They're like bellybuttons. -- asilvering (talk) 16:11, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Kellycrak88, I may have genuinely missed it, but how/where were the copyright violations "corrected"? In fact, looking over the O'Comain talk page, I see I missed three further uploads from you where you are still awaiting permission to use the images. You knew that this is not how we do things, if not previously, then at least from the 18th of May. Do you want to seek their deletion, now, or shall I? The ones in question are this, this, and this. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:19, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
I've tagged them appropriately. -- asilvering (talk) 16:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:17, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Indian Military History

Maybe the only evidence will be presented by neutral editors, and the ArbCom will have to wade through the history. Maybe. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

A list of hypotheses, some more plausible than others, for anyone who finds themselves in need:
  • there is in fact off-wiki collusion, and everyone is colluding to suppress evidence
  • there is in fact off-wiki collusion, and everyone is burying arbcom in half-relevant emails about it
  • too busy arguing about contemporary India-Pakistan issues to gather evidence for arbcom
  • too busy dragging each other to AE to gather evidence for arbcom
  • every individual party believes they have behaved badly enough to be tbanned and want to avoid being a juicier target by presenting evidence on anyone else
  • every individual party is in fact just a sockpuppet of one single master, who is able to stall the whole case just by not showing up
  • when named parties said they didn't think there was reason for a case, they really meant it, and have no idea what evidence to bring in the first place
  • when named parties said they didn't think there was reason for a case, they didn't meant it at all, and now are too embarrassed to bring evidence
  • everyone is hoping someone else goes to all the bother
  • everyone is hoping that if they ignore it, it will go away
  • this is the calm before the storm / everyone is just waiting for someone to shoot first / playing chicken with deadlines / etc
asilvering (talk) 04:12, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Women in Red June 2025

Women in Red | June 2025, Vol 11, Issue 6, Nos. 326, 327, 339, 340


Online events:

Announcements:

  • Who are the most overlooked and interesting Women in Red? We've no idea,
    but we're putting together our list of the 100 most interesting ex-Women in Red.
    We are creating the list to celebrate 10 years of Women in Red and we hope to present it at Wikimania.
    We are ignoring the obvious, so do you have a name or subject we should consider?
    Can you suggest a DYK style hook?
    If you are shy about editing that page, you are welcome to add ideas and comments on the talk page.
  • The World Destubathon, 16 June - 13 July, 2025

Progress ("moving the needle"):

  • Statistics available via Humaniki tool. Thank you if you contributed one or more of the 1,492 articles during this period!
  • 19 May 2025: 20.114% of EN-WP biographies are about women (2,066,280; 415,618 women)
  • 21 Apr 2025: 20.090% (2,061,363 bios; 414,126 women)

Tip of the month:

  • Every language Wikipedia has its own policies regarding notability and reliable sources.
    Before translating an article from one language Wikipedia into English Wikipedia, research
    the subject and verify that the translated article will meet English Wikipedia's policy requirements.

Other ways to participate:

--Lajmmoore (talk 06:02, 29 May 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Aimez-vous bien la baguette ?

Moi, j’aime beaucoup la baguette; elle est la mieux et plus dégoûtante type de pain. Croissant202 (talk) 16:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Et le croissant ?

Je l’aime aussi. Croissant202 (talk) 16:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Je vois que vous parlez français.

C’est une belle langue, non? Croissant202 (talk) 16:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Dastan Satpayev

Hey, are you able to REFUND or DRAFTIFY the page Dastan Satpayev, I found more references and am almost certain this passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

All yours, at User:Ortizesp/Dastan Satpayev. Re: commonname, I don't know about cyrillic for Kazakh specifically, but for Russian we have WP:RUROM, which we tend to use unless there's a really strong reason to prefer otherwise (eg, Tchaikovsky). -- asilvering (talk) 21:32, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Maliniranga (17:31, 30 May 2025)

Hi, how do you make a box on the right hand side for notable personalities, e.g. like the one here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Keshav_Gokhale --Maliniranga (talk) 17:31, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello @Sonepat2025, and welcome to Wikipedia! To answer your question, those are called infoboxes, and you can find more information about them here. Regards, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 20:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Disagreement

I always appreciate when you disagree with me. You take the time to clearly explain why and you always make me think. So, thanks! Keep it up! :) --Yamla (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks Yamla, that's always a nice thing to hear. And I'm glad I'm not driving you completely crazy. -- asilvering (talk) 19:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Question

Hello again, asilvering. Ever since the Harry Bruce article I've gone on a bit of a foray into the literature side of the encyclopedia, creating bibliographies and articles about books and such, and I've been pondering something that I'd like your opinion on. In many articles about books, you see a lot of "Bob Smith of the Daily Newspaper said the book was "a really great book" ". I'm wondering to what extent this is encyclopedic. I fell into it myself in the articles Flags of Canada and Frank Sobey: The Man and the Empire, although to a much tamer degree than I've seen elsewhere. Do you think there's ever room for prose like this? My gut tells me it's always better to put things in your own words, but this may also leave out a bit of context for the reader. Thanks for your time, MediaKyle (talk) 01:10, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm glad you're asking me this on my talk page so I don't have to try to make this sound diplomatic: in most cases I find this deeply unencyclopedic and, as a general Wikipedian tendency, I hate it. I don't think it's all that useful for readers, either. I could grouse about this at length, but that would be a bit too self-indulgent even for my talk page. If there's a really fire quote in a review, though, you should quote it. A blandly neutral summary of a review is a shame if the reviewer hated something with the fire of a thousand suns and really made sure everyone knows it. -- asilvering (talk) 06:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your reply, I think you're right. This is sort of what I was leaning towards but I thought maybe I was missing some nuance. I guess those sort of quotes are something like bare URLs as references - you hate to see it, but it's better than nothing I guess. I'll have to think about how I can rewrite my "Reception" sections to avoid this. Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 12:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
I've seen some pretty wild misinterpretations of book reviews before too, and I suppose I would prefer a (verified) quote to an erroneous "summary". But in general, I think if an editor can do better, they should. -- asilvering (talk) 17:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Move review by you

You moved a page from userspace to draftspace per that makes no sense as for your information Draft:Masud Rana Sheikh is nothing but copy (later they removed a part from full copy) of an existing article Shakib Khan. The user is just doing things that leads to think of them as WP:NOTHERE. You can go through their editing contribution. I think the draft should be deleted. Thank you. Agent 007 (talk) 04:32, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

If you want to make a case that the editor is WP:NOTHERE, by all means do so at ANI. But please don't tag anything that looks like an article draft with WP:U5, as drafts do not qualify for that CSD. -- asilvering (talk) 06:11, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Asilvering

@Asilvering, are you available? I have a favor to ask of you. Kartal1071 (talk) 09:39, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

@Kartal1071, if it's still relevant, feel free to ask. Just go ahead and ask in any case, no need to ask to ask. -- asilvering (talk) 16:37, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Hello @Asilvering, first of all I wish you a good evening. What code do I need to write to add the Asilvering draft afc template to the article. Also, I made some changes to the Alp Arslan page, can you take a look? If I made a mistake, I'll fix it. Kartal1071 (talk) 19:24, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
@Asilvering also, would it be a problem if I translate the articles I wrote on the Turkish Wikipedia into English and add them to the English Wikipedia using the same sources? Here are the articles I wrote:

Kartal1071 (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

@Asilvering If I create my articles this way, I won't be violating the policies, right? Kartal1071 (talk) 07:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
@Kartal1071, in principle, no problem with translating your articles onto English wikipedia. In practice, it's possible that some of them won't be considered notable topics by en-wiki standards. Given how short these are, I don't think they're likely to make sense as individual articles, and they also may not meet our notability guidelines. Typically we'd cover individual battles like these in an article on the overall campaign/war, or maybe just in the article about the rulers associated with them. On Alp Arslan, I'll have a look, but not right now - feel free to ping me if I forget.
To add the AFC banner to your draft, add {{subst:AfC draft|Kartal1071}} to the top and save the page. Then you'll have to press the blue button to submit it. asilvering (talk) 07:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you @Asilvering. I wish you a good day and good work. Kartal1071 (talk) 07:18, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

You may wish to become aware of this RFC

Please see meta:Requests for comment/Systemic Reviewer Incompetence Threatens Wikipedia Reputation where the editor you have blocked recently is attempting to kick up a brouhaha. I suspect you may wish to monitor their enwiki talk page for potential issues. I have no idea whether you wish to contribute to their (probably AI generated) RFC.

We do meet unusual people here, do we not? 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 21:17, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

I totally missed that you had commented there. It was lost in a miasma of bad faith. It has been closed, and they have been blocked on Meta. Since it was closed by an admin and a GS I wonder if the Global Locks threshold might have been passed, but I suspect not.
I love your taking personal responsibility for the systematic failure 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 21:24, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Integrity
For stating "I'm happy to take personal responsibility for this systemic failure." when referring elsewhere to the fact that "English Wikipedia is only interested in things that have significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources" without even sounding as if you are being ironic 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 21:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
I do try. -- asilvering (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

AfD format issue

Hi, your collapse of an opinion that you believed to be AI generated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spinny (company) wasn't terminated, so it collapsed all subsequent AfD entries today so none of them were visible. For this reason, I undid it (manual). If you feel the opinion needs to be hidden, feel free to re-do it, but it will need terminating I think. Sorry if I did the wrong thing. Elemimele (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

That... is very strange. I did terminate it, and you even left the terminating bit of the wikicode in there, but apparently it needs to go on its own new line? Fixed. Thanks. -- asilvering (talk) 13:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Oh sorry I didn't even notice the termination. Straaange! Elemimele (talk) 14:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Fake user help

Hello, I wanted to thank you for your comments on my thread after user Coinhote attempted to pretend to be an administrator and threatened to ban me. I am writing as that same user keeps updating pages with false info and when i correct them they just remove it and report me. The user is one Uriel Bromberg/UrielBRG, a known con artist and scammer. He is not a verified artist, Virgin and Universal music have confirmed in witing that he has never worked with them however hes trying to keep up the lie that he does. What do i do when hes abusing the system and im being silenced? JamesArther84 (talk) 04:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@JamesArther84, I see this is already at WP:ANI, so I won't answer here, so as to not split discussion. But some advice in general, for surviving ANI: that editor will probably respond, but don't let yourself get drawn into a protracted argument. The longer a thread gets, the less likely anyone is to take any action. If you need to respond to something, an admin or other experienced editor will tell you. -- asilvering (talk) 05:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
When I die, can someone blank my userpage and replace it with "I tried, man, I tried"? Thanks in advance. -- asilvering (talk) 05:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Deletion review for Urutau (3D Printable Firearm)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Urutau (3D Printable Firearm). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Superlincoln (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Eli Gross

Hello,

I recently submitted an English Wikipedia article about the Israeli graphic designer Eli Gross, but unfortunately, it was declined. As I am still quite new to Wikipedia editing, I would sincerely appreciate your help in refining the article so it can meet the standards for publication. You can find the original Hebrew article here:

👉 https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/אלי_גרוס

Eli Gross is mentioned in several notable publications, including:

TD 63–73: Total Design and Its Pioneering Role in Graphic Design

Ontwerp: Total Design. Design: Total Design (Utrecht, 1983)

The catalog of his retrospective exhibition Order Meets Chaos, held at the Ramat Gan Museum in 1994:

https://telavivmuseum-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=972MTL_INST_ALMA2119540490003901

I truly believe that Eli Gross's contributions to design, both in Israel and during his time with Total Design in the Netherlands, deserve representation on the English Wikipedia.

Again, I would be very grateful for any guidance or help you can offer. Thank you so much! Best regards, Liad shadmi (talk) 11:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Liad shadmi, it looks like Eli Gross is very likely to have enough significant coverage to have a standalone wikipedia article (see WP:42 for the basic guideline). The main issue with the draft is that it's not clear where most of this information is coming from. For example, who said His work is marked by precision, formal restraint, and a deep commitment to communicative functionality? There's a list of projects he carried out, but how would a reader double-check that's true? At a minimum, you need to have a Bibliography section that lists the secondary sources that a reader could look at to verify everything in the article. If you can place footnotes to specific sources at the relevant places, that would be especially helpful. -- asilvering (talk) 05:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Hi @asilvering, thank you for your thoughtful feedback.
You're absolutely right—the draft is currently lacking inline citations, and I appreciate the reminder about the importance of verifiability. The primary published source on Eli Gross’s work is the exhibition catalog Order Meets Chaos, published by the Ramat Gan Museum of Art in 1994, which provides detailed biographical and professional information:
https://telavivmuseum-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=972MTL_INST_ALMA2119540490003901&vid=972MTL_INST_V1
In addition, Gross is mentioned several times in articles on the National Library of Israel's website, including contemporary press coverage such as:
Haaretz, July 20, 1994: https://www.nli.org.il/he/newspapers/haretz/1994/07/20/01/article/131
Davar, May 11, 1977: https://www.nli.org.il/he/newspapers/dav/1977/05/11/01/article/52
Davar, May 9, 1980: https://www.nli.org.il/he/newspapers/dav/1980/05/09/01/article/224
He's also discussed in TD 63–73: Total Design and Its Pioneering Role in Graphic Design (Unit Editions, 2015), which highlights his work at Total Design and its relevance in the broader context of European modernist graphic design.
I'll work on incorporating these as footnotes and building out a proper bibliography section to improve verifiability and clarity.
Thanks again!
—Liad Shadmi Liad shadmi (talk) 15:52, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Dear @Asilvering,
I’ve added some quotes from written sources—unfortunately, these articles are not available online. The problem is that since his passing, Eli Gross has been almost entirely forgotten, never analyzed in depth, and largely absent from design history discourse. This project is, in part, an effort to recover and preserve a significant body of work that was at risk of being lost. Gross was active until 1994—before the Internet era—and most of the material exists only in physical form. I’ve already conducted over 20 interviews with former students, colleagues, and family members, so what I’ve written is based on thorough research. Liad shadmi (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
@Liad shadmi, physical only is fine. Ordinarily I'd be skeptical of a draft that is mostly based on print-only sources, but given the language and the timing here, and the fact that you're evidently a subject-matter expert, I'd be happy to accept something with that kind of sourcing. If you can convert statements like In the Tel Aviv local newspaper, curator Ran Shechori wrote the following on 29 July 1994 to footnotes instead of a long, in-text citation, it will make it easier for reviewers to see that you've explicitly listed sources. A reviewer will always skim the article and glance at the footnotes before reading in-depth, and if they're working quickly they're unlikely to notice that you've improved the sourcing. -- asilvering (talk) 21:04, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Please check! :) Liad shadmi (talk) 04:30, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Dear @Asilvering
I found some english and dutch atricles that mention Eli - online most of all about his work in total design
All the best
Liad Liad shadmi (talk) 10:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

User Aaaas216&

The user Aaaas216& has vandalised the indo-pak war of 1971 page and has made edits without talking through the page,requesting blocking of the user and reverting back the edits done by him. 120.61.226.13 (talk) 17:18, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi IP, simple vandalism is usually handled pretty quickly if you report it to WP:AIV. -- asilvering (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your advice,the user Aaaas216& should be blocked and barred from making edits to the requested page. Rhi12345 (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
@Asilvering could you define vandalism for me? because, I am unable to understand how the page has been vandalized when I have not done anything but modify the infobox a little without changing anything. Aaaas216& (talk) 19:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
@Aaaas216&, see WP:VANDAL. If you don't understand why you are being called a vandal, simply put, you are not a vandal. -- asilvering (talk) 19:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
As reported by the user Meghmollar2017, the user Aaaas216& is not engaging in the talkpage and editing the page to his own liking,even reverting it when the concerned user changes it back. 120.61.226.13 (talk) 21:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Your tedious statement is irrelevant to begin with and I am unable to understand your tedious behaviour when nothing has been change to begin with. If anything need to be re-solve within the article, I would then use the talk page instead logged out edit and accusing anybody or just insecure about themselves to speak articulately. 😂 Aaaas216& (talk) 21:41, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Folks, arguing on an admin's talk page about whether or not someone is edit-warring is typically not a good strategic move. Please try to resolve your differences on the article's talk page. If you're having trouble with that, remember to assume good faith, and consider potential paths forward as outlined at WP:DR. Go to WP:3RR for serious edit-warring violations. Don't call each other "tedious" or "vandals". Thank you. -- asilvering (talk) 21:45, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Evidence phase of Indian military history extended by three days

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AFC Reviewer script

Thanks for the permission. I could not find review option in my page. plz help. WikiMentor01 (talk) 04:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@WikiMentor01, have you enabled the script at ? Make sure "AFC Helper Script: easily review Articles for creation submissions (drafts)" is checked off. -- asilvering (talk) 04:25, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. I got this. WikiMentor01 (talk) 04:37, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Replying to your comment

You left this comment on my submitted article about architectural scholar Michelangelo Sabatino:

Comment: Hi, where did you copy this text from? asilvering (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

I wrote the text myself. It's my first attempt at creating an article. Constructive feedback appreciated. Zorrell (talk) 14:37, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Zorrell, you may well have written the text yourself, but you've copied it from somewhere. -- asilvering (talk) 05:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Not sure what you mean. Sure, I wrote it on my computer and pasted it into Wikipedia. Zorrell (talk) 20:55, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, @Zorrell, I'm happy to believe that and it's all all I needed to know. Apologies for the opaque question; I was trying to avoid feeding you any particular answer. Many new editors unintentionally violate copyright/licenses by copying text from somewhere online (including stuff they themselves wrote and haven't realized they no longer hold the rights to). -- asilvering (talk) 21:06, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
In case you were curious, Special:Diff/1294291114 in particular is what made it obvious. -- asilvering (talk) 21:07, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

82.46.25.83 IP hops again

Hi asilvering,

82.46.25.83 strikes again with IP hopping. All the IPs are close to Birmingham. Doing the same disruptive edits as 82.46.25.83.

You have blocked their sockpuppets just 2 weeks ago Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1188#Disruptive IP range across television articles. The original report Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1185#Long-term abuse (gaming the Article for Creation process) in which you blocked 82.46.25.83 for 6 months. — YoungForever(talk) 22:36, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@Daniel Quinlan, any chance we can catch this with an edit filter before I have to block half the Midlands? -- asilvering (talk) 23:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

CSD G11

Regarding your revert, thanks! I have some questions - does this mean that, for biography drafts, non-BLP drafts, even if promotional, should generally not be tagged for CSD per G11, and also, if this was an autobio or COI BLP, would this have been deleted? Thanks in advance, trying to use this as a learning opportunity :). Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 01:06, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@GoldRomean, there's variation in how admins handle G11s and how strict some people are about it, so don't take any of this as gospel. But in general, for WP:BITE reasons, I think it's a good idea to keep in mind that there's a difference between "not neutrally worded" or "not encyclopedic" and "promotional". If you're looking at an article for someone who's dead, chances are pretty high in general that you're not looking at something that could be all that promotional in the first place. (Who's going to get the $$?) Hyper fans and experts also often write things that aren't very neutral but aren't promo either, and we don't want to scare off the hyper fans and experts if we don't have to. We just want them to learn about WP:NPOV.
Me in particular, I don't like to G11 things that are in draftspace if there's anything salvageable in them at all. I will delete things in draftspace if I'm clearing out the G11 bin (I did delete most of the things that were in there when I went through it recently), but would I, myself, have tagged/deleted most of those things? No, I wouldn't have bothered. Remember that all drafts will expire by G13 in six months anyway, so if you don't think an admin needs to see it urgently for some reason, it can wait. And then you won't be biting anyone who just wrote a bad first draft.
Things that are worth tagging, imo:
  • true promo junk, beyond all doubt - not "so-and-so is an amazing up-and-coming singer!!" but "call us at 1-800-SPAMMER for a quote"
  • something that's really very promotional, where the editor's username violates the username policy (if the deleting admin isn't asleep at the wheel, they'll also block these guys)
  • something that's really very promotional, and you're like 85% sure it's a sockpuppet but you don't know whose and you can't be bothered to try to find out (if the deleting admin has had enough coffee, they'll also block these guys)
asilvering (talk) 01:22, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the thorough response! This truly & honestly helped me understand G11 so much better. Thank you again, and happy editing! GoldRomean (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Jameshinom (15:38, 6 June 2025)

Good evening, Sir/Madam. I hope you are doing well. I have a question I’d really appreciate your guidance on.” --Jameshinom (talk) 15:38, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Jameshinom, welcome to wikipedia! If this is about your deleted userpage, well, I'd have let it be, myself, but I can see why it was deleted. Have a look at mine, as a comparison. It's all about my wikipedia editing, not about me as a person. You're welcome to leave some facts about yourself if you like, but mostly, what we're about here is building an encyclopedia. -- asilvering (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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Question from SyncheYT (17:44, 6 June 2025)

Hello, i would like to create a new page about my YouTube channel, SyncheYT, to be known a little more on the internet, is that a possibility? --SyncheYT (talk) 17:44, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@SyncheYT, sorry, that would fall under WP:YESPROMO - basically, no matter how you try to do this, you're going to fall afoul of some guideline or another. I see from your channel that you're interested in videogames, though, so perhaps you want to join WP:VG, a group of editors who are working on games-related topics, and edit those articles instead? -- asilvering (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Lol it might sound funny, but the main reason I would want to make such a page, is to properly show up when people search my youtube name or real name, to sort of immortalize myself on the internet if you know what i mean. So im not really sure what the group you mentioned would help me. But thanks for the reply! SyncheYT (talk) 22:48, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
No, they wouldn't help you with that. But if you had any interest in editing Wikipedia, that might be a good place to start. -- asilvering (talk) 22:51, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halocene (2nd nomination)

  • The trajectory was clearly away from redirection; no non-keep !votes had been logged since May 14th, the day the discussion opened, when you closed it on June 7th. During that time, the article was substantially rewritten
  • The We are not here to relitigate the previous AfD. comment from CNMall41, indicating that user wanted GNG met on only the sources past the last AfD is not a correct reading of policy.
  • Even discounting IP input, the final was 3-3, with all of the non-redirects coming later, after the rewrite.
Overall, this looks like a very odd stretch to redirect this. Jclemens (talk) 07:41, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
How so? The only non-dodgy vote since the relist was a weak keep, and we didn't have consensus when it was first relisted. That's still no consensus. -- asilvering (talk) 07:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Average kurd

TPA needs revoking on this one. Pinging PhilKnight too just in case you are AFK. Patient Zerotalk 00:29, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Well, that's one way to not get unblocked. -- asilvering (talk) 00:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
Yup, tell me about it! Thanks for your help there. Patient Zerotalk 00:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
Btw DataNomad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) isn't marked as a sock on their userpage. Is this on purpose? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:32, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
Hm. My oversight. I didn't set the tags. Thanks for catching. -- asilvering (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Annoying Anonymous III on Afioco Gnecco (04:56, 8 June 2025)

i have ADHD i dont know but just to have help --Annoying Anonymous III (talk) 04:56, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, @Annoying Anonymous III, I can't say I have a clue what you're asking. Welcome to the club, though - lots of editors with various forms of neurodivergence here. If you've got any specific questions, feel free to ask. In the meantime, I've left a welcome template on your talk page that I hope you'll find useful. -- asilvering (talk) 23:40, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

your most recent comment at AN

Sorry to be a bother, but could you reword that for me? I am not entirely sure what you mean by "no indeed" but didn't want to clog up the thread asking. (Not an excuse as such, but I have conditions on the neurodivergent spectrum that make unclear language difficult to comprehend at times!). Best, -- Patient Zerotalk 23:29, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm agreeing with may not be strictly true from a userright point of view: the userrights in question are equal and there's no hierarchy there, strictly speaking. I'm also agreeing with a fear of overturning decisions. The point I wanted to highlight was "how much blowback am I willing to tank" - ie, that publicly disagreeing with another admin about one of their admin actions always comes with a risk of blowback. Sometimes a very low one. Sometimes a predictable one. Sometimes it's predictable and the blowback is likely to be catastrophic. And that's multiplied if you're a new admin, and multiplied again if you're a new admin who just came through a particularly bruising RFA.
In short: people tend to avoid doing things that get them yelled at. -- asilvering (talk) 23:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
I thought that might've been what you meant, but wanted to make sure. Thank you very much for explaining! I completely agree with you in that case. My personal view on the matter is that whilst there is no actual hierarchy with regard to the userrights, some may perceive one, especially in cases where admins are seen as "owning" an action such as a block, and that's what causes the fear of overturning decisions and speaking up - indeed, in case they get yelled at or admonished. Once again, really appreciate you getting back to me on that. Patient Zerotalk 23:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Teresa Harding AfD

Thank you for closing that cursed discussion -- but I do have to take issue with your close and I'm afraid perhaps prolong the discussion. I think an N/C close is unnecessary and in this case leaves several problems (even acknowledged by the page creator), including unverified claims in a BLP, original research and user-generated sources. When I tot up the !votes, I get 7 keeps (4 of them with draftify as a preference and/or an alternative to deal with the problems), 3 deletes/redirects (2 of them offering draftify as an AtD), and 4 outright draftify !votes. That adds up to 10 out of 14 participants supporting draftification to one degree or another, which seems like a fairly robust consensus. Your thoughts? Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:10, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

I waffled over this one. I think draftify would also have been a perfectly acceptable close of the AfD, but I don't think AfC review is likely to fix any of the problems, since AfC reviewers are looking for whether the topic is notable, and the answer is already "no idea". So that means it'll go right back to mainspace anyway, after having given at least one reviewer a headache they didn't need. Better is to remove the unverified claims, OR, etc. the usual way, and renominate if that makes it obvious there's nothing left to hang notability on. Maybe you can interest some folks from WP:BLPN in it so the creator doesn't think you're after them in particular. When I had a look at it earlier I did notice that there are some dead link tags that are erroneous (link worked fine), so hopefully it's not as bad as all that and you can find some stuff worth keeping hidden among all the dubious sources. -- asilvering (talk) 03:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Hulleys of Baslow

I appreciate your assistance at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AlexPCreports. Would you mind taking a look at their last edit at Hulleys of Baslow? I didn't revert again because I wanted to give someone else a chance to look at it, and I wanted to avoid inciting any further edit warring. -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Just to update, the edit was just reverted by another user. If Lefthandedcauliflower comes back after tehir block and tries to do the same thing again, then their intent will be clear. Can I just ping you in such a case or should it go to WP:AN3? -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
Just pinging me is fine, I'll conclude that there are no reasons to extend any more good faith and block them both. -- asilvering (talk) 21:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
Another administrator has closed the SPI and indefinitely blocked the account from editing the article. Not sure anything else needs to be done unless they show up again using a different account. Thanks for helping with this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Layout (Aircraft)

Since you commented here - that RfC has attracted even more functional-SPAs, including one that had been idle since 2011. If you wouldn't mind taking a look at it, since I'm very much involved? (If not, no worries). - The Bushranger One ping only 00:03, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Good grief. Honestly that sounds like even more evidence in favour of "canvassed from some niche forum somewhere"... I'll have a look. -- asilvering (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Only slightly hyperbolic conclusion: there is simply no way people are not being drawn to this discussion by some conversation off-site. Secondary conclusion: this RfC is a trainwreck and you have nothing to worry about. -- asilvering (talk) 04:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look. I've bowed out after one participant decided comparing me to the current VP was a winning strategy! - The Bushranger One ping only 07:42, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Did I miss that or is that one new? -- asilvering (talk) 08:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Mighta been after you looked. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Had another look. That falls into "too asinine to warn/block over" for me, but it sure isn't moving discussion forward in a helpful way, I'll say that. -- asilvering (talk) 21:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from DLD JAX (15:23, 11 June 2025)

Hello. How do I create an article about myself? --DLD JAX (talk) 15:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi @DLD JAX, welcome to Wikipedia! We really prefer that you don't write an article about yourself, honestly. See WP:AUTOBIO for more info. If you're undeterred, I suggest you read WP:FIRST and WP:BACKWARDS before you try it, but I really don't recommend it. Sorry. -- asilvering (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Sandesh Hiwale SPI Case

@Asilvering: Hello, there seems to be some confusion. This case is not about Suraj Yengde but about Sandesh Hiwale. Instead of searching for the website on Google, please check the link I provided above. The evidence clearly points to this individual. SachinSwami (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, to clarify, the website belongs to Sandesh Hiwale: Sandesh Hiwale's website. Callmehelper incorrectly added this link to Suraj Yengde’s page here: Edit on Suraj Yengde’s page. The evidence clearly points to Sandesh Hiwale, not Suraj Yengde. SachinSwami (talk) 19:47, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Previously, this same link was added by two IPs: 2402:8100:3009:C3A7:9DD5:208B:F28B:DB50 () and 2409:4042:2197:B165:D15A:2613:9DA0:E96C (). SachinSwami (talk) 20:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
@SachinSwami, I'm not sure what you're confused by. I have read the case and understand what you have said. -- asilvering (talk) 21:16, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed your response mentions "website by googling Suraj Yengde." To clarify, I have not referenced any website belonging to Suraj Yengde in this case. SachinSwami (talk) 21:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
No, but you mentioned a website with content about Suraj Yengde that had been written by Sandesh Hiwale. Since it is difficult to find via a google search, whereas many much more obviously reliable sources are very easy to find, that strengthens your suggestion that someone citing that website in particular is indeed Sandesh Hiwale. -- asilvering (talk) 21:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
@Asilvering: The website belongs to Sandesh Hiwale, and the link was added by Callmehelper. The information in the link was also written by Sandesh Hiwale. Here is the link: . SachinSwami (talk) 21:44, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Again, I have read and understood your report. -- asilvering (talk) 21:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Sorry I'm back

I took a break from Wikipedia I had a lot of things going in and it pushed it away but I'm back now(also why is almost every talk page having some sort of argument it doesn't make sense) Chezetat (talk) 21:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Sorry @Chezetat, most talk pages don't have any action on them at all, so I'm not sure how to answer your question. -- asilvering (talk) 22:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
oh this isn't a question it's a hello Chezetat (talk) 23:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from NORA222437 (02:20, 13 June 2025)

چگونه یک ویدئو بسازم --NORA222437 (talk) 02:20, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from PS Zahid (13:12, 13 June 2025)

Hello... Plz Change my username from PS Zahid to PS1360335 as per my Talk Page. --PS Zahid (talk) 13:12, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @PS Zahid You'll need to request this at WP:CHUS 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

Hi, are you following Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/73.158.120.223, where you responded on 11 June? I am not sure whether more evidence is needed or whether SPI is the best venue. 73.158.120.223 was blocked for 1 month on 12 June, does that the other 2 accounts discussed should be blocked as well if they are the same editor? TSventon (talk) 16:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon I was not, apparently. Thanks for the reminder. I see it has, uh, metastasized since. I'll take a look at it in some more depth later, but if there are any pages that urgently need page protection to handle this, ping me about it or take it to WP:RFPP so that gets done more quickly. -- asilvering (talk) 17:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for closing the SPI. If they do come back, my main concern is disruptive editing, because they focused on making minor changes to articles like University of Oxford and King's College London, which mostly didn't improve the articles. TSventon (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
If you get more obviously disruptive editing, no need to open an SPI - you can report that at WP:AIV, with a link to the SPI if you want. If it's not so obvious you might want to go for ANI. But hopefully we can get them to take me up on my offer to go through the unblocks process. -- asilvering (talk) 20:08, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
Also, thank you for trying to help the editor. TSventon (talk) 13:19, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Ican't understand why you blocked me

Candidly, my address had a block of 36 hours. I served the block and then you blocked me again for no reason. Unfair. 108.211.176.194 (talk) 20:49, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Creatively can we come to a solution on unlocking my IP please? Something just between you and I. I was new I was foolish. But I did follow the original block protocol. There's no trickery here no trying to evade anything in particular. I travel and have like 6 computers for various access needs and RAM requirements. Could you just say "Hey, I'll give you one more chance because we strive for inclusiveness at Wikipedia. Please don't disparage editors and check in on Talk before you make any edits."? I was stalked online before so I don't really want my own account plus I'm still reading the MOS:Wikis to learn what's up, you know? Let's make a deal. One more chance for the sake of inclusivity and learning. It really is a narrow band of editors chasing me around Wikipedia. You can see it took a long long time for anyone but this narrow few to actually say all of a sudden even edits that were literally backwards were wrong or numbers that were actually out of place was wrong. So, yeah, I flipped out, I said mean things. Let me learn from my mistakes and try again. I served my block term. It's unfair. Let's make a deal. 73.220.149.27 (talk) 22:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
"Hey, I'll give you one more chance because we strive for inclusiveness at Wikipedia. Please don't disparage editors and check in on Talk before you make any edits." This is exactly what I want to be able to do, and that's why I suggested you request an unblock and ping me to your talk page. If you keep jumping around on IPs, though, and evading your block, you're just going to keep getting reblocked. (Posting on my talk page, too, is block evasion.)
Regarding the stalking: I strongly encourage you to get an account. You will be much safer against stalking if you do so. Otherwise, you're leaving your IP data all over the place for everyone to see. Not to mention that repeated block evasion trains other editors to become very familiar with your interaction style so they can catch new socks/IPs when you evade again. Give yourself a username you've never used anywhere else before and has no way to be traced back to you. Do a WP:CLEANSTART. But first, you need to be formally unblocked. Put in an unblock request through WP:UTRS, ask for me by name, and we can work it out from there. -- asilvering (talk) 01:11, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
Ican't Talk on that page right now. I'm travelling for a while. Another editor told me to get quality edits up. I don't want an account. It seems Wikipedia allows for such a possibility. Can we just try again? I'm listening to a lot of different advice from different editors on Wikipedia. There isn't consistency. But I am trying to make a deal with you. I will stick to quality edits and explain each one. If they are reverted I will try one explanatory revert and just leave it at that. An account would definitely open me up to stalking for sure. That's why I don't have one. My IPs are being stalked. A username would be stalked even more.
I'll try this WP:UTRS thing you're describing. 107.182.47.171 (talk) 01:25, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Karo Billi$ (13:59, 14 June 2025)

Hello... how an I create an artist page on Wikipedia --Karo Billi$ (talk) 13:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Karo Billi$, welcome to wikipedia! Please, don't create an article about yourself here. This is not a social media website. If you'd like to help write the encyclopedia instead, WP:PRIMER is a good start. -- asilvering (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Arbitration case request question

Hi, I've just been added as a party to the arbitration case request. I've never been involved in a case, so I wanted to ask before I comment: what is the scope of the discussion there? Is it just whether the case is accepted, what its terms will be, who the parties will be, the underlying issues? People seem to have commented on all of these things. I have issues with the way the case request was framed, but I don't know if that's irrelevant or not. I'm asking you because you're an admin and you've been patient with me before, but no problem if you're not the right person. TIA Samuelshraga (talk) 07:36, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

@Samuelshraga, "the scope" is the scope of the discussion right now, and this one seems particularly muddied, so if you're feeling confused and uncertain, you're surely not alone. This part of arbitration is where the arbs decide whether to take up the case, whether any of them should recuse, what the scope of the case will be, and who ought to be listed as parties. If you object to being a party, think the scope needs to be narrowed, think the case ought to be tossed out altogether, etc, now is the time to say so. Read Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration#Responding to requests (it's brief) first. I'd advise that you not respond to other editors unless you really, really have to - you're speaking to the arbs. Don't let yourself get drawn into an argument with someone on the opposing "side" of the dispute. If you've got a more specific question, I'm the wrong person to ask. I can promise you that @HouseBlaster will be patient and helpful, if you ask them. -- asilvering (talk) 10:55, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! That guide is very helpful. Samuelshraga (talk) 13:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

The World Destubathon

Hello. You're invited to participate in The World Destubathon. We're aiming to destub a lot of articles and also improve longer stale articles. It will be held from Monday June 16 - Sunday July 13. There is over $3300 going into it, with $500 the top prize. If you are interested in winning something to save you money in buying books for future content, or just see it as a good editathon opportunity to see a lot of articles improved for subjects which interest you, sign up on the page in the participants section if interested. Even if you can only manage a few articles they would be very much appreciated and help towards making the content produced as diverse and broad as possible!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:04, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Relisted for deletion

Hello, I see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I-CTDi was just relisted for deletion. I have never nominated anything at AfD before (as far as I know); as the nominator am I supposed to do anything else or just sit back and see if anyone chimes in? Thanks,  Mr.choppers |   13:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

@Mr.choppers, no need to do anything. We just need more editors in the discussion to really get anywhere. Avoid responding to them unless you really have to, to avoid WP:BLUDGEONING. In particular, don't let Andy Dingley draw you out any further. -- asilvering (talk) 15:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I have stopped responding to those comments. Thank you,  Mr.choppers |   21:26, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Ongoing sockpuppettry

FYI for you and User:Godtres; WP:DUCK block evasion here User_talk:71.89.225.182. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:26, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Well, I tried. Alas. -- asilvering (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Tsedayephriem on User:Ferien (21:44, 15 June 2025)

How do I create a citation? --Tsedayephriem (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello @Tsedayephriem, and welcome to Wikipedia! To answer your question, here is a simple guide to referencing. Happy editing! Grumpylawnchair (talk) 02:43, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

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