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Request for Review
I've got a couple of Tech football game FACs in progress and upcoming, and I was wondering if you'd be willing to review and/or support them when they come along. The first is 2007 ACC Championship Game, which is in the review stages right now. The second is 2008 Orange Bowl, which will be put up for review once the ACC Championship Game article passes and I perform whatever changes need to be made based on the input from the first review. The third one that I'll be putting up for review in the next couple of weeks is 2005 ACC Championship Game, but it needs to still go through the GA review process first.
My ultimate goal is to create a Featured Topic consisting of all of Virginia Tech's bowl games, but that's still a long ways off. Until then, I'd appreciate anything you'd be able to contribute to those three articles whenever you've got the time. Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 06:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- How do featured topics work? What would it take to make all of Virginia Tech a featured topic or is that too broad? --B (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- It'd take a hell of a lot of work, I think. Featured topics basically (from what I gather) require a whole series of featured/good articles linked by a common category or infobox. Michigan State University had a featured topic, though, so I imagine that it can be done. The status of that topic is still kind of up in the air, however, and it seems to have been eliminated for not meeting the requirements. I think we could do a Virginia Tech featured topic, but do we even have a single Virginia Tech featured article beyond Virginia Tech Massacre? JKBrooks85 (talk) 11:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for the unblock. NiggardlyNorm (talk) 06:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
your recent user name block (I'm sure you know which one)
block
If you think that editor's behavior is acceptable, feel free to unblock him. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 07:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
....umm, I was complementing him on a job well done(hence the barnstar) besides If I felt the user hadn't done anything wrong(which he did) I'm not an admin. Thats beside the point, I was giving B a Barnstar.--Pewwer42 Talk 08:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Née
I'm sorry that you don't approve of my using a universal term (née) that many more than tens of people worldwide use. I thought the entire point of Wikipedia was to educate the masses.CymHastings (talk) 16:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again
Thanks for the unblock. I appreciate your speed and discernment. I hope I prove worthy of your trust, should I remain active.Jrichardstevens (talk) 05:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
UnclePaco
- UnclePaco (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- MiGustaToto (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 66.152.198.210 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 64.131.204.90 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
From the editing history, the IP appears to be UnclePaco. However, I'm confused by the actual edits. The IP essentially removed the entire violence section at Dominican Day Parade, and he removed the exact same content which UnclePaco restored on a number of occasions. I did notice some activity at Dominican Day Parade, and I think that 66.152.198.210 and MiGustaToto are UnclePaco's socks. Nishkid64 (talk) 06:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
ANI thread (blocks by JzG)
You commented on this earlier. Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Review of three of the above blocks. Carcharoth (talk) 00:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Bakaman 3RR
Protection of Bloods & Crips
I consider it not very civil since you haven't discussed anything about the edits disputes. You can refer to the creator of the article's talk page. I'd appreciate it. Thank you. If you wish to reply at this thread, please do so here. Tasc0 It's a zero! 03:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Would you prefer for me to protect the article or block you? I have no preference in the matter.Please see the relevant AN3 request. --B (talk) 03:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)- Is that a threat? I really wasn't expecting a reponse like that one from an admin. And I haven't broke that rule. Still, I hold my request to discuss the article protection. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I made no threat.I protected the article because it was the source of an edit war. This edit war was reported to WP:AN3 with a request for administrator action. You made an excessive number of reverts in a 24-hour period, violating the three-revert rule.I decided, though, that protecting the article to facilitate discussion would be more constructive than blocking you.--B (talk) 04:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)- I haven't broke the rule because I only made three reverts in a 24-hours period of the edits of a single user. If I have, would you please show me. I'd appreciate it. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're right. I apologize - I was mistakenly thinking of a different report. You are correct that you did not violate 3RR and I apologize for saying that you did. In this case, it was a slow moving revert war and I felt it best to protect the page rather than to allow it to continue. --B (talk) 04:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I understand. I have to admin that I didn't like your attitude at the beginning. There's been a year I'm registered on Wikipedia, and I do want to give this matter a solution. I think a third point of view would be a good a idea. Would you please read this? I'd like to see what's your point of view. Also check the article's talk page. Thanks in advance. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I took a look at it and honestly, I don't know enough to offer an opinion over whether or not this topic needs its own separate article. I obviously know who the Crips and the Bloods are and I think it's pretty interesting that they had a musical collaboration, but I don't know how significant that collaboration is in the musical world. --B (talk) 05:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time. Well, you really don't need to know much about the topics. It's pretty simple: two groups made those two albums. Not just one group, that's why I don't think it's correct to have an article about something that doesn't exists. Tasc0 It's a zero! 05:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I took a look at it and honestly, I don't know enough to offer an opinion over whether or not this topic needs its own separate article. I obviously know who the Crips and the Bloods are and I think it's pretty interesting that they had a musical collaboration, but I don't know how significant that collaboration is in the musical world. --B (talk) 05:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I understand. I have to admin that I didn't like your attitude at the beginning. There's been a year I'm registered on Wikipedia, and I do want to give this matter a solution. I think a third point of view would be a good a idea. Would you please read this? I'd like to see what's your point of view. Also check the article's talk page. Thanks in advance. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're right. I apologize - I was mistakenly thinking of a different report. You are correct that you did not violate 3RR and I apologize for saying that you did. In this case, it was a slow moving revert war and I felt it best to protect the page rather than to allow it to continue. --B (talk) 04:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I haven't broke the rule because I only made three reverts in a 24-hours period of the edits of a single user. If I have, would you please show me. I'd appreciate it. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Is that a threat? I really wasn't expecting a reponse like that one from an admin. And I haven't broke that rule. Still, I hold my request to discuss the article protection. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Frogsprog
I would like to unblock Frogsprog -- it has been well over a year since his block and he seems to actually want to contribute. I would volunteer to keep an eye on him and help him over the next few days.
If his disruption continues, I would endorse a reblocking. - Revolving Bugbear 20:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I find little hopeful in an unblock request that begins with essentially an attack on the blocking admin ... but if you want to unblock him, I don't plan on trying to stop you (or really care that much one way or the other). --B (talk) 20:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand -- is the attack in question his pointing out that MONGO has been desysopped? That's kind of a misguided reason, sure, but I'm not sure I see it as an attack. - Revolving Bugbear 17:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ping -- just wanted to make sure you had seen this. - Revolving Bugbear 21:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand -- is the attack in question his pointing out that MONGO has been desysopped? That's kind of a misguided reason, sure, but I'm not sure I see it as an attack. - Revolving Bugbear 17:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Bleek25
Can you explain 3RR to him in a more comprehensive way. He thinks my total of 5 edits means I've violated 3RR but I have not. I actually tried reverting my last but he had reverted before I could revert my last. Additionally, and this is what he misses, two of my edits were removing periods and adding episode information, clearly not 3RR. He just doesn't understand and has a vendetta against me. Thanks for any help you can offer. KellyAna (talk) 02:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
National sport
- THUGCHILDz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Guy0307 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- PIO (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- National sport (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
After this mediation THUGCHILDz and Guy0307 edit in disruptive manner like as a vandal!!!! Their edit warring in national sport is absurd. They insert Australia in list of nations where cricket is the most popular sport but in mediation's discussions Australian experienced editors assert Australian rules football and rugby league are most popular sports!!!! May you oppose them or advice them? Regards,--PIO (talk) 13:38, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like the article is protected now. I'll take a look, but if this is something complicated and requires admin intervention, it needs to be documented and explained at WP:ANI. If it doesn't require admin intervention, you could consider opening a request for comment. --B (talk) 13:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- After looking at it, it looks like you and they simply disagree. They aren't vandalizing the article and calling them vandals is incivil. You need to discuss your concerns with them on the talk page or use WP:3O if you need an outside opinion to help consider the issue. --B (talk) 13:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I made this action but some persons don't understand anything pertinent sports or come from other planet!!!! You can read this message.--PIO (talk) 14:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Rather than create a New User Name
and have people saying i'm circumventing a block. I figured i would send you this. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AUnclePaco&diff=186321560&oldid=184194869 I've been on block for over a month. Thanks for at least considering this. 64.131.205.111 (talk) 16:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Top 1000 Scientists: From the Beginning of Time to 2000 AD (second nomination)
I've nominated this article for deletion. It still has no sources besides the book itself, and having got hold of a copy of the book, I find that it actually makes no claims to be derived from an authoritative survey, so I see no notability. Since you've edited the article or participated in the old AfD you might like to comment. As there has been confusion about the book's actual content, I'd be happy to back up all the assertions I've made by Emailing you scans of the relevant pages. Best, Iain99Balderdash and piffle 21:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Prem Rawat photo
This has been up for a few days and by my count, of the seven editors who have not edited the Prem Rawat article, 6 say delete and one says keep. Isn't it time to remove it?Momento (talk) 06:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- That's a silly discussion. The image is a flagrant copyright violation. I don't really care one way or another about the cult wars and I don't think I had even heard of the guy until seeing it at AN3 (at least if I had, it went in one ear and out the other). The image is incompatible with our licensing requirements unless we plan on using it for critical commentary about the quality of Google Earth. --B (talk) 06:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
You put the photo up for deletion, what's that mean. Who presses the button that gets rid off it.Momento (talk) 07:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
IFD comment
I believe that Jossi's proding was the first attempt to list the image for deletion. ScienceApologist (talk) 15:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Godislove.png
Hello,
It was a good idea to delete that image, bad file name and original placement. Uploading that image was my first experience working with the editors of wikipedia. The file name should have been tiferets_paths_highlighted.png and it should have been placed on the tiferet page, after the listing of the paths already there (paragraph 5). I plead that it is credible and good, if not better than any of the other images on wikipedia relating to the kabbalah.
I would like to reduce the file size (just to go the extra mile), change the file name, and then place it (or link it) on the tiferet page in relation to the sentence (paragraph 5) that already lists the paths of tiferet. I do not see how it could be a poor choice.
As for the debate I started: I originally put the image on the freemasonry project discussion page. They were offended that I would even link the kabbalah to freemasonry, let alone ask them for help in placing the image because I wasn't sure where was best. (My POV on cannabis did not help either, but I'm new and thought it was good info to share) After about 30 pages of typing people started to get past the fact I'm new (and interested in cannabis) and actually listen to me. I can now link the kabbalah to freemasonry as proven and agreed upon on the freemasonry discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Freemasonry#Pike
I am dealing with information that should be treated with great respect, and I think everyone will find I am doing so. I also think I have proven the original assumptions of the freemasonry project dramatically wrong. Incase you are interested, here is the quote that reversed this for me on the freemasonry page after MSJapan deleted my image w/o any attempt to listen to me. (Which is fine, he's a volunteer, I'm just happy to have him around)
From the official Encyclopedia of Freemasonry by Albert Mackey speaking directly on the Kabbalah (Cabala): "Much use is made of it in the advanced degrees, and entire Rites have been constructed on its principles. Hence it demands a place in any general work on Freemasonry." The quote is found here: http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/mackeys_encyclopedia/c.htm
It is for these reasons that I believe the situation has been corrected and the image should be uploaded with a better file name.
Thanks/ God Bless, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 17:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Potential Featured Topic
I brought this up earlier, but I'm trying to create a featured topic about Virginia Tech bowl games. Basically, I'd have to get all the Tech bowl game articles (all 21) to GA class or higher, including the overarching article about Virginia Tech bowl games. There'd have to be at least three FA-class articles in there as well, but one (2006 Chick-fil-A Bowl) is already there, and a second (2008 Orange Bowl) is in the review process. Basically, I was wondering if you'd be willing to help along the way. I'm always having trouble getting reviewers for featured content, and it'd be a big help if you could let me know if I'm getting off track or am doing something wrong. Do you think you could give me a hand? JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Happy Valentine's Day!

A short/sweet little message, which I hope has made your day better! Happy Valentine's Day!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
64.131.205.111
I blocked 64.131.205.111 (talk · contribs) (UnclePaco's IP) for one year, as a result of his recent post-block edits. Nishkid64 (talk) 05:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome
I've been a fan of wikipedia for a while now, and enjoy using it to find information on just about anything that I need to look up quick. I know it's not a classic academic source, and I cross-reference anything really important, but all the same I really appreciate this site. I recently decided to get involved in editing because I found an article ( Ravi Zacharias ) nominated for deletion for not being notable enough, which I totally disagree with. I think there are ample sources to prove he is indeed a notable Christian apologist, and am working on writing an article relaying his bio and ministry information to show this (with ample citations of course). Is there anything I can do to get the deletion nomination taken off without the person who put it there putting it back up right away? Thanks for welcoming me into the community. I look forward to helpfully contributing to articles to make them better, more accurate and more well sourced. Kristamaranatha (talk) 06:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- It hasn't actually been nominated for deletion &mash; it has only been tagged as not having sufficient sources to demonstrate that he is notable. Sometimes (and obviously this is a horrible idea) articles will have that tag on them for a year or more. Once there are 3-4 good sources of information about him added to the article, the tag can just be removed. Please note that it's important that the sources be (1) external to the subject himself (in other words, not just his bio page from somewhere that he spoke), (2) non-trivial (more than merely a listing of apologists, a listing of people who are on BBN, etc), and respected (not one person's blog/personal website - news sources are good, well-known ministries that are more than just one person are good). For those of us who are Christians, we know full well he's notable and we know that he's one of the 10 or so most well-known modern day evangelists (really, I'd say top 3-4, but 10 conservatively). But "I know it" doesn't prove it - we need to have verifiable and reliable sources in the article. --B (talk) 14:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
RFC discussion of User:G2bambino
A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of G2bambino (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/G2bambino{{highrfc-loop|page=Wikipedia:Requests for comment|username=G2bambino|number=zzzz}}]]. -- soulscanner (talk) 12:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Involves 3RR decision by you from a few days ago. Thanks.--soulscanner (talk) 12:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Advice
Ciao friend, after your advice pertinent grammar, may you insert in correct manner with English language grammar this source and other source from this edit in introduction of association football? In first linked site you read section Australian Rugby Union and you read sentence the 2003 Rugby World Cup was the fourth largest sporting event in the world behind the Olympics, Soccer World Cup and the World Athletics Championships: Olympics is most followed sporting event in this source. In other source volleyball is most participated sport and Formula One Racing has the largest television viewing audience in the world. I would like insert other sources which consider various sports are most popular in the world but not soccer: sure several sources consider soccer most popular in the world but other sources no!!!!Regards,--PIO (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
3RR
why was i blocked but User:KellyAna Wasn't and she reverted 5 times in a 24 hour period. here is the evidence:
- 1st Revert:14:38, 10 February 2008
- 2nd Revert:23:44, 10 February 2008
- 3rd Revert:00:01, 11 February 2008
- 4th Revert:00:02, 11 February 2008
- 5th Revert:01:42, 11 February 2008
Bleek25 (talk) 16:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- When I looked at it, the first two did not appear to be reverts. #3 and #4 were back to back, not separate reverts. Thus my count was only 2 reverts. If the first two are reverts, that information is important to have at the AN3 report. --B (talk) 17:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
none of mine were reverts but you ended up blocking me.that seem unfair that i get blocked for something but User:KellyAna does the exact same thing and she geta a pass.Bleek25 (talk) 17:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't violate 3RR and out of that list, three edits were in a row with nothing between them. How can that be a revert if there's no edits between them? Familiarizing yourself with policy will help you understand why you were blocked and I didn't violate anything and therefore did not deserve a block nor did I "get a free pass." KellyAna (talk) 19:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Re:Tasc0 (talk · contribs)
OK, thanks for telling me. He really shouldn't have rollback; that was just inappropriate use of the button. jj137 (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Can you reply at my talk page, please? Thank you. Tasc0 It's a zero! 23:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Tasc0 and rollback
Hi B - in light of your exchange with User:Tasc0 regarding rollback, I'm giving it back to him at his request (which I gather you don't object to given your comment that "You're welcome to ask another admin..."). I don't disagree with your revocation of his rollback privileges, but I know him to be a good faith user and I believe him when he says that he didn't know that rollback was only for vandalism. Obviously if he abuses it again, it should be revoked and I'll look like an idiot, but I'm very confident that it won't be. I hope this isn't a problem. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 06:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Community bans
As you are considering a community ban against Hempbilly (talk · contribs), is it reasonable to request a community ban (where I would bring this up either at ANI or elsewhere) against CompScientist (talk · contribs)? This is a sock that I have been tracking for quite a while, and a new sock appeared today which I am awaiting action on. Would a community ban be appropriate here? Thanks, Seicer (talk) (contribs) 04:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like CompScientist was blocked for a month two weeks ago. Has he continued to sock during that time? I don't know this case at all so I don't know enough to offer an opinion one way or the other. In the case of Hempbilly, the main account TDC has a lengthy block history and has been previously sanctioned by arbcom. --B (talk) 05:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- The article I first came involved in, Nissan GT-R, was becoming saturated with random IP addresses which most were traced via CU to CompScientist. He was blocked for 96h at 01:58, 9 January 2008 for abusing sock puppets (namely, IP addresses), for 1m at 18:12, 21 January 2008 for the same, which was reset and he was reblocked for 1m at 11:17, 3 February 2008 for abusing sock puppets (this time, with Wikipeadian (talk · contribs)). I'm unsure if it worth going for a block for Mcknight11 (talk · contribs), who I am positive is yet another sock (identical edit patterns as previous), or if a community ban can be imposed which would take care of the issue at-hand. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 05:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Never mind, I found my answer at a CU for CompScientist. I know where I need to go now :) Seicer (talk) (contribs) 06:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- The article I first came involved in, Nissan GT-R, was becoming saturated with random IP addresses which most were traced via CU to CompScientist. He was blocked for 96h at 01:58, 9 January 2008 for abusing sock puppets (namely, IP addresses), for 1m at 18:12, 21 January 2008 for the same, which was reset and he was reblocked for 1m at 11:17, 3 February 2008 for abusing sock puppets (this time, with Wikipeadian (talk · contribs)). I'm unsure if it worth going for a block for Mcknight11 (talk · contribs), who I am positive is yet another sock (identical edit patterns as previous), or if a community ban can be imposed which would take care of the issue at-hand. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 05:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Bleek25
Bleek25 (talk · contribs) I need someone's help with this guy. He's now going to other users personally attacking me since his "sockpuppet" case against me was dismissed. I removed the personal attack from here but this is out of hand. He files false reports every chance he gets and is now doing this. Can you help? KellyAna (talk) 16:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- wow i hadn't even check that sockpuppet case until she just brought it up.if she thinks that is apersonal attack than it is one of the weakest personal attacks of all time.Bleek25 (talk) 16:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'll look into this tomorrow. --B (talk) 06:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Request
If you've got the time, do you think you could throw together a Virginia Tech bowl games navbox that we could throw at the bottom of the Tech bowl game articles? You're a lot better at box syntax than I, and I think it'd be a good thing to have to connect all 21 (and counting) Virginia Tech bowl game articles we'll have when I move beyond the keystone article. That, and it'd look really nice on the Featured Topic page one of these days. :) If you're too busy, I can try to tackle it; just let me know. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 00:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Done. See {{Virginia Tech bowl games}}. --B (talk) 02:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looks pretty snazzy. Nice work, and thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 04:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot... do you have any pictures that could be used for some of the older bowl game articles? I'll be asking on TSL eventually, I'm sure, but you're the guy on the spot, and if you have any, it'd be really helpful. I think I've got a few of the Insight Bowl, but I'll have to dig for them. JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Question
Hi B. I have a question about the way things work around here that I wanted to ask. How long does an article have to be tagged as sounding like a personal essay before it can be deleted (as in the case of the article on John Hick)? I tried to clean up the intro but it is so poorly written that I'm not sure if it can be salvaged. What is typically done in such cases? I am not necessarily interested in rewriting the article myself, but something has to be done about it. Thanks for your help. Kristamaranatha (talk) 02:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Those "maintenance tags" are not a part of the deletion process. Category:Articles lacking sources, for example, goes back three years. Those tags are basically just messages that say "someone else should take care of this problem". I'm going to go ahead and nominate it for deletion. There will be a link to a discussion page at the top once I'm done. See WP:AFD for more information on nominating something for deletion. --B (talk) 02:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Whitelist/blacklist issue
Hi - could you comment on this request please. You added the site to the blacklist but there seems to be nothing in the way of logging or other request that I can see. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is obviously a spammy non-notable blog with a very high ad/content ratio. There is a massive effort to spam a particular group of fansites - see User_talk:B/page2#Fansite_spam_investigation for a list of ones I have seen. All of these appear to be owned by the same person/company/whatever. The Tyrod site does not appear related to the rest of these, but I still don't think we should have it here. It doesn't meet our external link policy and actual content is lacking. One of the "articles" is just a link to buy fatheads with an affiliate ID (ie, advertising disguised as an article). One of them is selling "Fire Jim Weaver" t-shirts. (No serious source of Tech information would promote such a thing. Jim Weaver is unquestionably one of the best ADs in the country, TSL trolling notwithstanding.) Three of them are links to youtube videos. This is just a spam site and absolutely should not be permitted here. --B (talk) 15:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot - I've closed it --Herby talk thyme 16:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
Request
If you've got the time, do you think you could throw together a Virginia Tech bowl games navbox that we could throw at the bottom of the Tech bowl game articles? You're a lot better at box syntax than I, and I think it'd be a good thing to have to connect all 21 (and counting) Virginia Tech bowl game articles we'll have when I move beyond the keystone article. That, and it'd look really nice on the Featured Topic page one of these days. :) If you're too busy, I can try to tackle it; just let me know. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 00:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Done. See {{Virginia Tech bowl games}}. --B (talk) 02:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looks pretty snazzy. Nice work, and thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 04:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot... do you have any pictures that could be used for some of the older bowl game articles? I'll be asking on TSL eventually, I'm sure, but you're the guy on the spot, and if you have any, it'd be really helpful. I think I've got a few of the Insight Bowl, but I'll have to dig for them. JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- No - didn't have a camera at any bowl other than the CFA bowl in 06. --B (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Bummer. I'll have to email Autiger to see if he's got any pictures of the '05 Sugar Bowl, then. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I've nominated Virginia Tech bowl games as a potential featured list. Does it look all right to you? JKBrooks85 (talk) 06:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- It needs something more. What about a mini infobox for each game that gives the game name, opponent, date, and scoring summary? I'm going to make {{NCAAFootballSingleGameHeaderMini}} from {{NCAAFootballSingleGameHeader}} and try it out. --B (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I've added it for the first few ... you can decide whether or not you like having it in there ... but I just think that a featured list is going to need something visual (as opposed to prose) to get approved. --B (talk) 13:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Anything can get featured provided enough people view and give their approval of it. I really like the mini single-game header... now we've just got to get people to read the damn thing and give their opinion. I've got no problem fixing laundry lists of problems. It's just getting people to make those lists then give their approval when the items are complete that's the toughest part of getting things to featured status. JKBrooks85 (talk) 10:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Question
Hi B. I have a question about the way things work around here that I wanted to ask. How long does an article have to be tagged as sounding like a personal essay before it can be deleted (as in the case of the article on John Hick)? I tried to clean up the intro but it is so poorly written that I'm not sure if it can be salvaged. What is typically done in such cases? I am not necessarily interested in rewriting the article myself, but something has to be done about it. Thanks for your help. Kristamaranatha (talk) 02:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Those "maintenance tags" are not a part of the deletion process. Category:Articles lacking sources, for example, goes back three years. Those tags are basically just messages that say "someone else should take care of this problem". I'm going to go ahead and nominate it for deletion. There will be a link to a discussion page at the top once I'm done. See WP:AFD for more information on nominating something for deletion. --B (talk) 02:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Whitelist/blacklist issue
Hi - could you comment on this request please. You added the site to the blacklist but there seems to be nothing in the way of logging or other request that I can see. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is obviously a spammy non-notable blog with a very high ad/content ratio. There is a massive effort to spam a particular group of fansites - see User_talk:B/page2#Fansite_spam_investigation for a list of ones I have seen. All of these appear to be owned by the same person/company/whatever. The Tyrod site does not appear related to the rest of these, but I still don't think we should have it here. It doesn't meet our external link policy and actual content is lacking. One of the "articles" is just a link to buy fatheads with an affiliate ID (ie, advertising disguised as an article). One of them is selling "Fire Jim Weaver" t-shirts. (No serious source of Tech information would promote such a thing. Jim Weaver is unquestionably one of the best ADs in the country, TSL trolling notwithstanding.) Three of them are links to youtube videos. This is just a spam site and absolutely should not be permitted here. --B (talk) 15:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot - I've closed it --Herby talk thyme 16:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
East Carolina Pirates football seasons
Hey, you wrote
I don't think you need a separate color for NSC championship vs SC championship since each row tells what conference they were in. (In other words, pick one color for a conference championship.)
How do you feel about having one box that that says Conference Champions. i.e.
| Conference Champions | Bowl game berth |
And the reader can look on the line to see which conference ECU was in. Thanks, PGPirate 01:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Are you a cell borders wiz? I copied this table, hence, I do not know how to manipulate the table as you prescribed. Also, please look at the ref in 2005. How does it look explaining division rankings. If you have any direct questions/comments, please respond on my talkpage. Thanks, PGPirate 01:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I've fixed the WWII area. Feel free to tweak the text or add a ref to it. The colors and legend you suggest look fine. As for the 2005 change, I don't know what the right answer is, but if I didn't notice it, a reader might not either. I don't know what the right answer is ... maybe change the conference label to "CUSA Eastern" (or whatever the division is called), then it would be obvious what it is talking about. --B (talk) 01:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
| 2003 | Conference USA | 10 | 1 | 10 | — | — | — |
| 2004 | Conference USA | 10 | 2 | 9 | — | — | — |
| 2005 | Conference USA East | 4[1] | 5 | 6 | — | — | — |
| 2006 | Conference USA East | 2 | 7 | 6 | Lost Papajohns.com Bowl vs. South Florida 24–7 | — | — |
| 2007 | Conference USA East | 2 | 8 | 5 | Won Hawai'i Bowl vs. Boise State 41–38 | — | — |
| 2008 | Conference USA East | — | — | — | — | — | — |
Question re removing incorrect warnings
Here you wrote that "an incorrect warning can be removed by anyone". Is that the general rule? If a user has been warned incorrectly, for something that the warner mistakenly thought was vandalism but actually wasn't, is it OK to remove the warning? Hu12 insists that it isn't. I don't know how he came across this page unless he's been checking my contributions (to which I have no objection but it does seem to mean he's looking for something to take me down).
This IP has been used almost exclusively for vandalism, but it made one edit that, though of marginal utility, wasn't actually vandalism, and wasn't warnable. I assume that the warning editor, primed by the IP's record, didn't consider the case closely enough, and assumed this edit was just like all the others; it was a mistake, so I corrected it by removing the mistaken warning. Every other warning on the page was well-deserved, so I left them, and indeed added one of my own. My question is whether Hu12 is correct that I may not remove a warning that should never have been left, or whether your statement is correct, that incorrect warnings can be removed by anyone?
-- Zsero (talk) 20:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Are we talking about this edit? That looks like vandalism to me. I have no idea who Mr. Pena is, but the IP modified someone else's comments and added something that looks like irrelevant nonsense. To answer your question, I doubt there's a written rule anywhere about removing obviously incorrect warnings, but it falls into the category of "things that are obviously a good idea". If someone is a good faith user, we don't want to drive them away by falsely accusing them of vandalism. But in this case, I would not suggest removing the warning - you should only remove the warning (or replace it with a personal message) if the edit was obviously not vandalism. --B (talk) 23:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, my mistake. I got confused between that edit by a vandal IP, which was indeed properly warned as vandalism, and another edit to the same page by a different vandal IP (since blocked), which was marginally not vandalism. Sometimes these vandal IPs all blend into each other... In this case, of course Hu12 was quite right to replace the warning which I'd mistakenly removed. <emily-litella>Never mind.</emily-litella> -- Zsero (talk) 23:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Warning
Re:Unblock
Taulant image uploads
Portal:American football
clueless administrators
sub-Planck is a valid research area of physics for decades; I added 1 reference from NATURE the world's top journal -- just to make you all happy; I am sick of having to justify the significance of this topic to 5 different administrators today and also to witness a discussion among clueless users
It is not my personal reserach area..You are just totally ignorant of the area apparently and its reality; although not as psycho-vandal busting as other administrators... Your editorial and administrative powers (or actually those of others...) have exceded your content of knowledge resulting in a disasterous pre-emptive attack on less well-known but relevent issues.
I.e. if I put up a Millard Fillmore was president of the US page (assuming one didn't exist) it would be deleted instantly because 99% of your administrators don't know that HE REALLY WAS president even though this is common historical knowledge.
I'm sick of wikifascism on the part of administrators. If I wrote the article in sub-Planck wrong, or in the wrong "styel" then leave it for other people to correct and contribute.
If you disagree with wikifascism at least have the courtesy to put it up (where it belongs wether a talk thread or somewhere so that it can be debated instead of censored...
- You're right. I don't know a thing about it and had a grand total of one physics class in college, nor do I pretend to know much other than that force = mass * acceleration. That aside, most any article that addresses the reader as "we" or contains little other than unsourced speculation is going to be deleted on sight. The RIGHT way to handle the issue is to give a list of academic or other reliable sources (not blogs, not message boards) that discuss the concept. The WRONG way to handle it is to start making personal attacks on administrators. As for wikifascism, that's obviously not an encyclopedic topic. --B (talk) 23:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Templating
Whoa. Time out. How was I supposed to know he was expeienced? After all, WP:DTTR stands for Don't Template The REGULARS, and, looking at his talk page, he's only been welcomed today. Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 01:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Other than deletion templates for inappropriate pages, repeatedly templating any good faith user is a bad idea. Leaving templates instead of responding to the concerns he raises just inflames a situation. --B (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. I see. I tend to use the "Revert and Warn" button a lot on Huggle, so that should explain the repeated templating. As for good faith, did you see the message he left you? Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 18:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- EDIT: Pardon me if I sound defensive, but I'm just citing my reasons.... Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 18:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
CFB images
RE: Marcs Monk
Model Nonprofit Corporation Act
The username that created it was blocked indef as a sockpuppet, but the main account (now editing as User:Obuibo Mbstpo) has been unblocked on the condition that he not engage in any further disruption or sockpuppetry. I undeleted the article on his request. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 00:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Turn Up the Wick
I'm not sure if you've ever read it, but I'd highly recommend reading "Turn Up the Wick, by Beamer and Chris Colston. It's a great look behind the scenes at Tech football, but it was written in 2000, so everything reads like it's from some odd parallel universe. The unintentional comedy scale blows up for it, but it's got some really insightful parts, too. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
DC Meetup on May 17th
Your help is needed in planning Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 4! Any comments or suggestions you have are greatly appreciated. The Placebo Effect (talk) 18:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
My request for bureaucratship

Dear B, thank you for taking part in my RfB. As you may know, it was not passed by bureaucrats.
I would, however, like to thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns about my candidacy. Unfortunately very few of the opposes gave me advice on points I should improve upon (bar the examples of incivility), and I ask you now, very humbly, to visit my talkpage, should you have any concerns about any of my actions here.
I remain eager to serve you as an administrator and as an editor. ~ Riana ⁂ 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Patrick Nyarko
I have nominated Patrick Nyarko, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Nyarko. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. robwingfield «T•C» 20:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Unblocking Shirley
That did it. Thank you Jayron32, Tiptoety and B, you are each both brilliant and more importantly, kind gentleman.ShirleyPartridge (talk) 06:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
RFC
I'm willing to combine my RFC Any advice? I do personally think I was spoken to in a disrespectful manner Uconnstud (talk) 06:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- There's nothing to combine. The best thing to do would be to drop it and move on with life rather than beating a dead horse. Sometimes you have to pick your battles and arguing over what amounts to an extremely minor discourtesy doesn't accomplish anything. --B (talk) 06:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I guess it'll stay. Thanks for your thoughts. Uconnstud (talk) 06:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Order of the Arrow
You were recently involved in discussions on the article Order of the Arrow. Some of the issues brought up then were not resolved. If you are interested, please participate in the continued discussion at Talk:Order of the Arrow#Safeguarded material. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Possible UnclePaco sock
See Bigdaddy718 (talk · contribs). This user is edit warring with TiconderogaCCB (talk · contribs) on St. John's University (Jamaica, NY). Bigdaddy718's account was created just three days ago and he's fully aware of policies (as demonstrated by the sockpuppet tag additions and his 3RR report). I just wanted to let you know. I was going to ask for a CU to reveal any sleeper socks, but I'm about to go to bed. If you get this message while I'm offline, could you file a request at RFCU? Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 06:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Scratch that. Blnguyen got a direct hit with the CU. Blocked indef. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 06:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Question
- 128.252.254.20 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- Ravi Zacharias (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hi B. I had a quick question, and since you've been so helpful in the past I thought you might be able to help. IP address 128.252.254.20 has repeatedly vandalized the Ravi Zacharias article. Is there any way to block them? Their talk page says they are a Washington State University computer that may be shared by multiple users. Thanks for your help. Kristamaranatha (talk) 20:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Looking. --B (talk) 20:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- That IP hasn't edited in 12 hours so I'm kinda hesitant to block it right now. It's obviously a static IP (doesn't change) but I can't tell if it's shared or one person. There are non-vandalism edits from that IP, but it could be all one person just with an ax to grind. I'll keep an eye on it and if it continues, I'll soft block the IP for the rest of the academic year. --B (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Great, thank you! Kristamaranatha (talk) 20:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- That IP hasn't edited in 12 hours so I'm kinda hesitant to block it right now. It's obviously a static IP (doesn't change) but I can't tell if it's shared or one person. There are non-vandalism edits from that IP, but it could be all one person just with an ax to grind. I'll keep an eye on it and if it continues, I'll soft block the IP for the rest of the academic year. --B (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced user block
I would like to comment in relation to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User: 72.0.180.2 reported by Andyvphil (talk) (Result: 31 hours). I believe that in this case, the block you placed on User: 72.0.180.2 (who is an established editor, despite the use of an IP address) is unjustified for two reasons. Firstly, the reversions to Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2008 (a daughter article to the WP:BLP Barack Obama) may fall under the auspices of the special rules governing reversions for biographies. Secondly, the reporting user) has consistently attempted to use Wikipedia policies as a tactic to block editors from maintaining certain articles in a way that he dislikes. In otherwords, I believe he reported User:72.0.180.2 for a 3RR violation for personal, rather than sensible reasons. I suggest you reconsider the block you applied with these facts in mind. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Just shouting BLP doesn't make it so. There is no BLP necessity whatsoever for making any of these edits - , , , . Also, these edits - , , - though BLP was claimed, that is an incorrect claim as the source article says "Martin raised all kinds of strange allegations about Obama but focused on him attempting to hide his Muslim past". Neither version is a BLP violation as both accurately reflect what the source says. If there is an editorial reason to prefer one version of the wording or the other, that's fine, but it's not a BLP exception. Pick any four of the above and there is a 3RR violation. If Andyvphil is editing in an unconstructive manner (don't know - didn't look beyond to see if he violated 3RR on the article), there are other venues for resolving that issue. --B (talk) 21:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
IP is shared, it's 72.0.160.0/19. check whois report for 72.0.180.2 Momusufan (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
for taking the time this afternoon. it would have been easier to just walk away but you didn't. 72.0.180.2 (talk) 05:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your comment . If I get into an edit dispute with a user, I usuallt try to find some middle ground. It is usually possible to find a way forward by discussing at the talk page and consider each other's arguments. When there is a matter of opinion, this preferable solution usually succeeds. As I'm sure you know even better than I do, that's less easy with people who are on Wikipedia more to push a nationalist agenda (or any agenda at all for that matter) and are uninterested in other's views. Unfortunately, users dealing with the topic of Macedonia often fall into this category, be they Greeks or Macedonians. As you might have seen, this dispute was even featured in the Economist recently. In the case you refered to, the user didn't even bother to explain why he was deleting the existance of Macedonians in Greece from many different articles. As can be seen from his edit history and his user page, he's a Greek Macedonian refusing to accept the existance of Slavic Macedonians in Greek. With this category of users, it is unfortunately harder to find a middle ground as they are less interested in exchanging opinions than in imposing their own view. Luckily, users like these are very much the exception in all topics I've come across on Wikipedia except those related to Macedonia. Cheers JdeJ (talk) 17:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Help Needed at BLP noticeboard
Hi, after all the block activity yesterday, the concerning text has been readded today. I know you don't want to get involved, but much of this issue would not have happened, if the BLP noticeboard had provided some timely guidance. So I am asking you, if possible, to get the BLP admins to please respond to the open request on the noticeboard. I am sending this message to admin: B and admin: Jayron32. Thank you for your consideration. 72.0.180.2 (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- I looked at it, but honestly, nothing there changes my view. The BLP policy does not necessitate or forbid either wording. I don't like the "secret Muslim" wording any more than you do, but that's a personal opinion that can be talked out on the article talk page, not something that is a BLP issue. --B (talk) 23:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Request for Review
I've submitted 2005 ACC Championship Game for an FAC review, but am having a hard time attracting comments. If you get a chance, do you think you could stop by, take a look at it, and leave a few comments? Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 22:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
New editor review
Hey. I am currently undergoing a new editor review to see how much I've improved since my first nearly five months ago. If you could, even though we haven't been in contact for quite some time (I'm leaving you this message because you commented on my first review), I would greatly appreciate if you could give me whatever criticism of my activity you can. Thanks for your time, Ksy92003 (talk) 00:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Lindsay658
User talk:Naep1
You offered this user a second chance in an unblock review. The user has requested unblocking again. My policy is, you're the one offering the second chance, so you have to decide if the proposed edit is good enough. Mangojuicetalk 05:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bcamenker
Removal of maternal grandparents.jpg
You appear to have delete dthis image because I did not respond to a comment about its copyright status. I'm sorry I'm not a fluent wikipedian and really don't have the time to deal with this sort of thing. The photo was taken to commission from the family concerned by a photographer who died in the 1910s. It is owned by my family who were pleased to see it available online. If you can, please restore it. I don't log into Wikipedia more than once every few months so I wasn't able to respond before you deleted it. Alex —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexgray (talk • contribs) 22:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have restored Image:Maternal grandparents.jpg. Please edit the description if there is any more information you can provide about the source. --B (talk) 01:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
User:Bardcom
You didn't block Bardcom after his 3RR case, but that's ok. I'm more worried about the general pattern. He seems to be a single-issue editor, entirely focused on locating and changing any use of "British Isles", often in ways which are destabilizing or outright false (as with History of Jersey). At [[Talk:User:Bardcom]] I've listed a number of examples; they were easy to find. I don't know the best way to proceed. I have requested him to stop his procedure, but I rather suspect he won't. What is the best thing to do, short of simply ignore his POV-pushing? Surely it violates WP:NPOV to decide that one is going to pursue a single term and obliterate it wherever possible? Tb (talk) 02:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Greg Glienna
Thanks for your efforts on Greg Glienna. greggymark (talk · contribs) is continuing in the same vein - his contributions are rather telling. Is there anyway a short block could be applied to him as it seems its just a way of evading a block with more "fact vandalism". I've already done two reverts on the page and been warned for WP:3RR and I don't want to get into any trouble for "warring". -- BpEps - t@lk 02:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for making a definitive statement
Both Cheeser1 and myself do not have an amiable relationship, precipitated by some difference in style guidelines and his insistence on not accepting good faith. In turn, I monitored and interceded in his uncivility on another editor's talkpage and hence forth was labeled a stalker which I will admit in that particular instance definitely gave an appearence as such. I've attempted to show a sincere gesture of WP:WIKILOVE which he states is further stalking, unjustifiably in that sense. Suffice it to say, I thank you for concluding this matter so definitively. Netkinetic (t/c/@) 03:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)