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About the blocked IP and its use of multiple IPs

Answered in the page review. 148.101.39.37 (talk) 06:44, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Looks like you got blocked as Therainbowsend, Wooeyparks and Kyleoconnor. Binksternet (talk) 15:20, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
You're wrong, You're wrong, I'm not that Wooeyparks, I have not had accounts associated with him because he was correcting some of the items that were in disorder and apart from having had a mess with AngusWOOF, that I get involved with someone who has had edition wars with me, I explained in the recently blocked IP discussion page about the real name of the Japanese voice actress on the first occasion and really knowing that it is difficult for me to find the maiden name in the database and I mentioned the same as the previous one and now they tell me that I evaded the block knowing that all the time I was going through Wooeyparks as their multiple IPs. 179.52.198.7 (talk) 00:31, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks trivia etc re that Titanic/Lincoln LTA

Re your revision at Assassination of Abraham Lincoln: Thank you for keeping an eye on that article - much appreciated. And it's interesting to me...that statement by the eyewitness (David Dorn) would seem to somewhat be in error. These are the issues:

  • so far as I can tell there was no curtain at the back of the Presidential Box at Ford's
  • unless Mr. Dorn was seated on the other side of the Dress Circle, it would be virtually impossible for him to look squarely into Booth's face. He was not seated across from the Box - Dorn was seated somewhere in the orchestra.
  • Dorn says "I think Mr. Lincoln, Mrs. Lincoln, Major Rathbone, Tad Lincoln and possibly another man and woman were in the box". Tad was most definitely not there, he was watching a production of Aladdin at another theater.
  • The photo of Dorn that is included in that newspaper account of unknown date is not contemporaneous to the Civil War. It shows a middle-aged/elderly man so the statements were not contemporaneous to the events - probably at least ten years later and maybe even 20 or 30, so Mr. Dorn's statements should probably be considered as being somewhat unreliable.

Heh well, that's all. Shearonink (talk) 18:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Our LTA friend seems to throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks. Binksternet (talk) 20:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Switched-On Bach and electronic rock

I didn't add Switched-On Bach to {{Electronic rock}} and don't have an opinion about its inclusion or your revert of my edit, but here's a friendly reminder to complete the task and remove the link from the navbox as well, to preserve the bidirectionality of the navbox. Thanks, and happy editing! Ibadibam (talk) 01:16, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

If you're keen on bidirectionality, you might want to add to your armamentarium the question of whether the first link deserves to be in its place, before you add the second link. Binksternet (talk) 01:20, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
The thought crossed my mind, but as I said, I'm not prepared to render an opinion as to the suitability of its inclusion. I was merely doing the gnomish work of ensuring the navbox was properly transcluded. I appreciate your providing the domain knowledge I lack to produce a better outcome. Ibadibam (talk) 01:27, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Jack Vixion

Seems he's the latest version of a chaos maker on Wikipedia as of late. Do you think he's deserving of an LTA page? He just made a lame attempt to troll me based on my band userboxes on my userpage. It was rather humorous, I'll admit. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 15:34, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Sure. You would want to start with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jack Vixion/Archive. A really complete case page would go back further than his registered accounts to list the Indonesian IPs that alternated between lousy changes to hard rock and heavy metal articles, and fairly constructive changes to racing topics. Binksternet (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Such as Special:Contributions/36.84.226.215 and Special:Contributions/36.84.226.155. Binksternet (talk) 16:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I tried to explain that this latest incarnation was an obvious sock, but I was still brought here because they couldn't see it. He ended up being blocked for a different reason, not for sockpuppetry, and as a result, they're still investigating. On a somewhat related note, now I/we have this to worry about too. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 16:14, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

About St Germain - Tourist

You asked me to join sources in the genre section of the infoox when I did my change, something that I can comprehend, but can you tell me where the sources are for the "pop, rock, electronic" genres?

It's more for the genres previously mentioned that I would personally like to see a serious source, because I don't think it's a question of "point of view" that St Germain's music has nothing to do with pop and rock, and vice versa.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.161.19.252 (talk) 20:17, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

A problem with your sources: The www.albumoftheyear.org website allows user reviews, which are not deemed reliable. The genre "electronic music" is already covered by nu jazz and acid jazz. Binksternet (talk) 01:42, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I have noticed a regular editing patten within the Coldplay related articles by you and the Kent IP addresses. It is very good how you manage to spot the sock puppetry edits that these IP addresses have made. Iggy (Swan) 18:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the support, Swan. I track a bunch of problem editors in my own namespace. In this case the page is User:Binksternet/Kent IPs. Binksternet (talk) 19:24, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
They're back again (86.165.144.41). I've noticed this through Coldplay related articles again plus others. Iggy (Swan) 10:48, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
I've also seen that you've posted a message re multiple IP addresses so presumably you knew this IP address came from Kent anyway. There should be enough edits made by the IP address for a sock puppetry block like a couple of others. Iggy (Swan) 10:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
I just filed a report at WP:AIV. Let's see what happens there. Binksternet (talk) 15:43, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Discogs

Discogs is a reliable source, because they accurately reproduce credits from album sleeves, so you must have sent this message by mistake and please be careful of you who single out. I have previously used Discogs as a source, especially when adding the studios for Linda Ronstadt's "Heart Like a Wheel", but nobody reverted that edit. 60.240.8.249 (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Discogs is listed specifically as an unreliable source at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. The reason is that users can change the content without editorial oversight. Binksternet (talk) 06:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Your message

Excuse me, but my edit on the Gina G page is not vandalism. I never said she was dead, simply that she was not musically active anymore, which is correct considering she hasn't released anything since 2011 and doesn't perform anymore either. Perhaps I misunderstood what "years active" means in which case I apologise but call it vandalism is ridiculous.

Secondly, your reversion of my edit on the Daria Kasatkina page is even more absurd. I simply updated her career high ranking in the lead sentence, which was out-of-date and now, because of your revert, is once again (as per the infobox and her WTA profile).

FYI, I have never vandalised Wikipedia, and the other earlier warnings on my page are also from admins who have misunderstood my edits which are ALL in good faith. No wonder this site is losing editors with such an attitude of thinking everybody is a vandal. 86.17.57.21 (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I assumed that your edits were a continuation of the previous disruption from the same IP address. Binksternet (talk) 23:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Your input on List of Christian rock bands's talk page was appreciated. I'd like to see something done, not just have it left as is. 2600:1702:1690:E10:5DB1:E494:B72E:DDE8 (talk) 21:04, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree with you, but I don't think the issue is urgent. To me, it seems like it would be a good idea to have a discussion about inclusion criteria on the talk page, and if the interested editors end up at a standstill, start a WP:Request for comment about the issue, to bring in new eyes. Binksternet (talk) 21:23, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Please do not attack editors without knowing all the facts nor put personal information/comments on talk pages. If you have any problems with me go to a noticeboard about it not on articles. I was nice to you and don't need you or WG bringing up the past when it doesn't matter. Others involved have also been disruptive (ie. recently on JG and BG articles). Be fair and respectful. Your messages on talk pages are inappropriate. I asked for your help but you decided to turn on me. I don't want you contacting me or harassing me. WG is guilty and has been blocked too. I'm sure if I do some checking i'll see you have before also. Would you like me to put where you edit from? Knock it off. It has nothing to do with the task at hand for that article. This is why editors get angry on here. Give the benefit of the doubt and assume good faith. Your comments on the talk pages were disruptive and unwarranted. Leave me alone. 2600:1702:1690:E10:388F:8A9D:EDC1:B48 (talk) 20:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
The history on the Jon Gibson article shows that you added unreliable sources, poor sources, and bad writing. When you start taking responsibility for your own bad editing and poor behaviour, you might have fewer problems on Wikipedia. Binksternet's comments were quite correct. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:54, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Hitler / white genocide

Hello, I understand you bringing up WP:SYNTH, I was expecting it at some point as I had tried to open a discussion on the talk page while the page was locked. Anyway, the way I see it is that the page is either about the term "white genocide" or the conspiracy theory that Jews want to corrupt white people with African blood. If it is the second, then Hitler can be included:

  • United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: "In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler charged that “the Jews had brought the Negroes into the Rhineland with the clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily-resulting bastardization.”"
  • Holocaust Memorial Day Trust: "In Mein Kampf, Hitler charged that ‘the Jews had brought the Negroes into the Rhineland with the clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily-resulting bastardisation’. Nazi propaganda posters, showing friendship across racial groups, referred to ‘a loss of racial pride.’"
  • Medium.com: "Hitler, in his autobiography, Mein Kampf, described blacks as tools in a plot by “international Jewry” to take over the world: “It was and it is the Jews who bring the Negroes into the Rhineland, always with the same secret thought and clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization, throwing it down from its cultural and political height, and himself rising to be its master.”"
  • Huffington Post: "“Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate.” Words by Adolf Hitler, from his diatribe, Mein Kampf (My Struggle)"

Personally, I am of the belief that this can be included even though the exact words "white genocide" were not used by Hitler. If a modern far-right leader said that Jews were bringing in black people to corrupt the white race – without using the exact words "white genocide" – this would be included in the article. However, Wikipedia is not my personal website so I respect consensus and will not revert you. Anarcho-authoritarian (talk) 17:47, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

The bit you introduced from the Holocaust Museum website fails discuss the Mein Kampf quote in relation to conspiracy theory. That's what is needed. Binksternet (talk) 18:53, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Heart (band)

  • Why remove mention of Mike Fisher? (It doesn't say he was a bandmember, so you haven't removed him as a bandmember.) He was, however, a significant factor, and at one time about ~25% "owner" of the band, so it's relevant to mention that both he and Roger left, not just that Roger left.
  • Why remove "See: List of Heart band members" and leave the "past_members" field empty? I fail to see how having a pointer to a list of past members is contrary to WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE, and would be interested to read why you think it is. (In fact, I would have thought having a pointer to a list, rather than a long list of names, was exactly in harmony with WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE).

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:03, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Mike Rogers was not a musician, just a guy who liked to hang out with the band. Yes, he thought of a name for the band, and he moved to Canada, which eventually brought the band to follow behind him. But I don't see any sources calling him a band member. If you know of any sources that define Mike's role as more important, then bring those in and tell the reader about it.
Regarding INFOBOXPURPOSE, the guide says, "Avoid links to sections within the article; the table of contents provides that function." So that's why I removed the section link from the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 08:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Who is Mike Rogers? Mike Fisher is Roger Fisher's brother who had a live-in relationship with Anne Wilson in Canada whilst he was draft-dodging. To say he was "just a guy who liked to hang out with the band" is arrant nonsense and displays considerable ignorance of the history of the band. Please re-read the article; there are already plenty of references to and about him. But if you are unsatisfied, please ask and I will happily point you to them.
But I don't see any sources calling him a band member. - I don't understand why you continue to mention this. He wasn't, and it's irrelevant. What's the point that you are unsuccesfully trying to make? Please re-read what I wrote above, and if it's still not clear to you, please ask and/or clarify your point (which I don't understand).
If you know of any sources that define Mike's role as more important - Suggest you re-read the article - the mentions are numerous. Again, if you're unsatisfied, please ask.
Regarding INFOBOXPURPOSE ... - Thanks for that, I'd missed that section. However, it's irrelevant. List of Heart band members is a separate article, not a subsection of this article.
Thanks for your polite response. It's refreshing to have an intelligent discussion, rather than a brawl, with an editor who has a different POV. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
BTW: You're removal of "See: List of Heart band members" has already (not unreasonably) resulted in an editor filling the blank hole with Howard Leese. Hence, given your faulty justification for removal of the link, I've reverted both the Leese edit, and your removal. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
BTW2: Should we be having this "discussion" on the Talk:Heart (band) page? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the notes. You're right, I should not have removed the link to another article. Binksternet (talk) 18:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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Van Halen "Dreams"

I apologize for that.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.173.173 (talk) 21:35, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

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Sorry for asking here

...but I've really no idea where to send "personal messages / mail" within this system. I've a question for you, for the simple reason you were the person who welcomed me to the site some time back. Could you let me know if there is a more appropriate forum / method for my asking you questions regarding the finer points of wikipedia-ing? Thanks in advance! :oD Saturn comes back around (talk) 16:07, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Saturn comes back around, I know there is a tutorial for "getting started", but you're asking for something beyond that. Instead of a general "finer points" tutorial, there are various tutorials for specific tasks, for instance there are Wikipedia:Graphics tutorials, and lot of Category:Wikipedia how-to guides, and other tutorials. I think a particularly powerful skill is referencing, as unreferenced text is far more likely to be deleted by the next editor. See Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources.
Otherwise, ask me whatever you like. Binksternet (talk) 16:30, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you most kindly. I simply wanted to ask whether there is some sort of (sane) authoritative body for resolving edit wars, as I seem to be embroiled in one, and would rather settle the matter in a sane manner. However, my constantly being reverted for fixing (what appears to me, anyway) to be a most glaring and obvious error regarding grade-school-level math is starting to make me feel I've stepped into the Twilight Zone. Perhaps I am quite wrong, but it seems people are reverting the edit by kneejerk instinct, without bothering to actually read the context and see that what is currently on the page is utterly self-contradictory. And so, while I very much do not wish to pull you into this maelstrom unnecessarily, I am hoping you can point me towards some method of resolving this. I am aware we should strive for consensus, but mathematics is not open for debate. It is either correct or it is not. Is there anyone who can make the call? Thanks, and I apologize again for (possibly) getting you "involved" in this matter. Saturn comes back around (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)@Saturn comes back around: there are a couple of options that can help with an editing dispute. First and foremost, stay cool, no matter what, never ever focus on the editor and realize that something you see as cut and dried can be viewed differently by someone else in good faith. That said, the dispute resolution page has some helpful advice and options for handling disputes. Ravensfire (talk) 17:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Ravensfire. I'm happy to see and follow the correct procedure; after all, I just might be the one who's wrong here. (Needless to say, I rather doubt that is the case, but must admit it's certainly possible.) Again, thank you. Saturn comes back around (talk) 18:37, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Routine calculations are allowed per WP:CALC. The only leverage the other editor has to support deletion is whether the math result is relevant to the topic, and how important it is to tell the reader.
Wikipedia has several levels of dispute resolution:
Let me know which one of these methods you prefer to use first. Binksternet (talk) 19:10, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Whoops, didn't immediately catch your last line here before initially replying... Hmm... well, it seems to me the most correct thing here would be the second option, and to get more eyes on the issue. Hopefully, at least one of these eyes will be attached to a mathematically/astrophysically-trained mind, among whose most compelling interests or hobbies are to A) strive for objectivity, and, B) help resolve wikipedia disputes. =^_^= (Hope springs eternal...) Saturn comes back around (talk) 18:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Checking out your recent editing history, it appears that ratio of the resonance of the moons of Pluto is the issue. Is it the case that you are measuring a graphic representation of the moons, and coming up with a ratio from the graphic image? If so, then a stronger argument would be to collect a handful of published sources and share with the other editors what they say. You probably have some sources in mind, but left to my own initiative, I would peruse the sources discovered through searching on Google Books and Google Scholar. Just my two cents. Binksternet (talk) 00:28, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
My great thanks to both you and Ravensfire for the recommendations. To clarify, my issue is only indirectly related to the diagram, and is at heart somewhat simpler: the article as I found it was in a state of self-contradiction (the existing diagram is incompatible with the stated resonance), which requires deletion or emendation of one or both of the conflicting "sides", so far as I understand the point of wiki editing. To my mind, the actions I then took in editing the piece were to achieve these aims. This was reverted. As my history shows, my normal response in such cases is to then step immediately away and let the community review and decide. (Life is too short, and all that.) In this case, however, I felt compelled to keep "fixing" the content, as the math there is either incorrect or self-contradictory — or presented in a confusing manner which makes it appear so. The sole two explanations for the reverts have been to point at paywalled source, and a mathematical explanation which appears to be not applicable. To my mind, the editing history that follows my initial two edits strongly suggests the other party/ies did not thoroughly consider the matter in context... although, of course, I may be wrong about the whole thing. In any case, once again my sincere apologies for involving you in this nonsense, and my gratitude for the quick and sober-headed responses. All the best, Saturn comes back around (talk) 18:37, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

There is a discussion involving you on the Administrators incident board

My edits for Peter Gabriel Awards

Why did you remove my edits. Haven't you checked out what I edited? There are many mistakes by links for example the album Us is a link of the United States, the video album P.O.V. shows a television thing which has nothing to do with Peter Gabriel and so on. And I added Academy Awards, Golden Globe Awards and brought it all in a good looking form. By the way the overediting you did is worse and looks awful. Check it out before removing my (improving) edits!  Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.20.171.32 (talk) 02:25, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Hello. I don't believe that any of my edits were disruptive, and we're all properly referenced as you asked.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicksfromvenus (talkcontribs) 05:42, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

You are adding inappropriate names to the associated acts list in the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 05:53, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
No.. all those names had close relations with the artists (look at the given sources). I don't understand the point of deleting them all is though.Chicksfromvenus —Preceding undated comment added 05:58, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Chicksfromvenus, the guideline for associated acts is at Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts. The bar is set higher than just one hit song together. Binksternet (talk) 04:08, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Binksternet. I understand. But for example, on my edit for artist Wiz Khalifa, all the acts I added had at least 7 or more collaborations with the artist. Another example, on my edit for the artist French Montana, the acts that were reverted (Future and The Weeknd) only have 2 and 3 respective collaborations with the artist. According to the cited sources, the acts I added had at least 7 ("Acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together").

Jeff Howell linked to Outlaw Page

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