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WikiCup 2013 February newsletter
Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.
Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:
Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), primarily for an array of warship GAs.
Miyagawa (submissions), primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
Casliber (submissions), due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with
Keilana (submissions), this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.
Other contributors of note include:
Sven Manguard (submissions), whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.
Sasata (submissions), whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
Muboshgu (submissions) and
Wizardman (submissions), who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.
Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.
Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by
The C of E (submissions): did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...
March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!
A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 01:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Talk:United States, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Defining the United States of America. TFD (talk) 19:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Your vote has been removed by the volunteer. TFD (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
| Possible compromise resolution | ||
| The Dispute Resolution Noticboard volunteer, Noleander has offered a compromise solution here. Please take a minute to add your response as to whether you agree or disagree with this solution. There are no "ground rule" limitations but please consider using brevity if commenting . Amadscientist (talk) 00:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC) |
The Signpost: 04 March 2013
- Op-ed: We must do more to turn readers into editors
Recently I was having a casual conversation with a friend, and he mentioned that he spent too many hours a day playing video games. I responded with a comment that I, too, spent way too much time on an activity of my own – Wikipedia. In an attempt to reply with a relevant remark, he offered something along the lines of: "So have you ever written anything?" After a second, I quickly answered yes, but I was still in shock over his question. It seemed to be rooted in a belief on his part that using Wikipedia meant just reading the articles, and that editing was something that someone, hypothetically, might do, but not really more likely than randomly counting to 7,744.
- News and notes: Outing of editor causes firestorm
"WP:OUTING", the normally little-noticed policy corner of the English Wikipedia that governs the release of editors' personal information, has suddenly been brought to wider attention after long-term contributor and featured article writer Cla68 was indefinitely blocked last week. This snowballed into several other blocks, a desysopping by ArbCom, and a request for arbitration.
- Featured content: Slow week for featured content
Three articles, six lists, and three pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week, including the article on "Laura Secord", who was a Canadian heroine of the War of 1812 best known for warning the British of an impending American attack.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Television Stations
This week, we tuned to WikiProject Television Stations, a project that dates back to March 2004. WikiProject Television Stations primarily focuses on local stations, national networks, television markets, and other topics related to television channels in North America, the Caribbean, and some Pacific countries. The project has a fair bit of work ahead of them with over 4,000 unassessed articles and only one Good Article out of 626 assessed articles, giving the project a relative WikiWork rating of 5.262.
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- EdwardsBot (talk) 20:08, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
National Register Information System at AFD
Because the nominator of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Register Information System and the page's creator have just been interaction-banned, I've closed this discussion. Because it's not fair to participants like you to force you to start all over again, I've reopened it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Register Information System (2nd nomination), and I've copied your comments over there. Feel free to participate further over there. Nyttend (talk) 13:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 11 March 2013
- From the editor: Signpost–Wikizine merger
I am pleased to announce that the Signpost and Wikizine have reached an in-principle agreement that will see Wikizine published as a special Signpost section at the beginning of each month.
- News and notes: Finance committee updates
During March, three of the Wikimedia Foundation's grantmaking schemes on Meta will reach important crossroads, which will shape how both the editing communities and Wikimedia institutions handle the distribution of donors' money across the movement.
- Featured content: Batman, three birds and a Mercedes
Twelve articles, five lists, and eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week, including an image of the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, a front-engine, 2-seat luxury grand tourer automobile developed by Mercedes-AMG.
- Arbitration report: Doncram case closes; arbitrator resigns
There are three open cases, and a final decision has been given in the Doncram case.
- WikiProject report: Setting a precedent
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court Cases.
- Technology report: Article Feedback reversal
The WMF has aborted a plan to deploy version 5 of the Article Feedback tool (AFTv5) rolled out to all English Wikipedia articles.
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Kingston Road
Kingston Road (disambiguation) redirects to Kingston Road so I've changed the link back.--Launchballer 11:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Intentional links to disambiguation pages are supposed to use the form with "(disambiguation)" regardless of whether it is a redirect. Please revert yourself. older ≠ wiser 11:11, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- What, even if the link was piped (i.e. [[Kingston Road|Kingston Road (disambiguation)]])?--Launchballer 11:16, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- No, the link should go to the form with "(disambiguation)". In What links here, this differentiates intentional links to the page that do not need to be fixed from mistaken links. older ≠ wiser 11:21, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- What, even if the link was piped (i.e. [[Kingston Road|Kingston Road (disambiguation)]])?--Launchballer 11:16, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
KING
hi man, i know the band KING personally so all the information i put up is legit. please dont delete my hard work. i know these guys!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tetrapak3 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- That's nice, but anything in Wikipedia articles must be verifiable and especially any details regarding living persons. older ≠ wiser 14:03, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
"Black Jack"
How can I properly list the song "Black Jack" by Baciotti in the Black Jack disambiguation page?
Ctempire (talk) 21:16, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Is there any article that mentions the song? It looks like there is not even any article for the artist or the album, so it is doubtful that a individual song warrants inclusion. Disambiguation pages are navigational aides for existing Wikipedia content, not directories of possible content. older ≠ wiser 21:21, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 18 March 2013
- News and notes: Resigning arbitrator slams Committee
Just two months into his second term as an arbitrator on the English Wikipedia, Coren resigned from the Committee with a blistering attack on his fellow arbitrators. At the heart of a strongly worded statement, posted both on his talk page and the arbitration notice board, was the claim that ArbCom has become politicised to the extent that "it can no longer do the job it was ostensibly elected for".
- WikiProject report: Making music
This week, we composed a tribute to WikiProject Composers. The project was created during the final hours of 2004 and finalized in early January 2005. It has grown to encompass over 8,000 pages, including 26 Featured Articles and 23 Good Articles. WikiProject Composers faces a difficult workload, with a relative WikiWork rating of 5.45.
- Interview: Meeting in the middle: Wikipedia and libraries
Ask librarians what they think about Wikipedia and you might get some interesting answers. Some will throw up their hands about the laziness of the Google generation and their overdependence on Wikipedia. Some see it as the "competition". And some will tell you it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
- Featured content: Wikipedia stays warm
Nine articles, seven lists, eleven images, and one topic were promoted to "featured status" this week on the English Wikipedia.
- Arbitration report: Richard case closes
On Thursday, arbitrator Coren resigned, following closely on the heels of Hersfold's resignation on Wednesday. There are two open cases. A final decision has been given in the Richard case.
- Technology report: Visual Editor "on schedule"
The WMF's engineering report for January was published this week, giving an overview of all Foundation-sponsored technical operations in that month.
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- EdwardsBot (talk) 06:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Removed information about cat: slang for a man
If you remove information about cat which is slang for a man, you must also remove information about chick in which it may refer to slang for a woman.
Meteor (disambiguation)
Thank you for your interest in Meteor (disambiguation), Bkonrad. I note that you reverted my addition of "* Meteor, the visible streak of light from a meteoroid or micrometeoroid, heated and glowing from entering the Earth's atmosphere, as it sheds glowing material in its wake.", noting that it was already listed. I am completely open to the possibility that I can't find what's right in front of my nose, but in the scientific-type entries, see Meteoroid and Meteorite, which are not the same, there is no mention of Meteor. Perhaps you could paste the pertinent text in a reply, here, so I can see what I missed. Otherwise, perhaps you would consider restoring my contribution. Yours in good faith, User:HopsonRoad 16:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- The primary topic for the term meteor is given at the very top of the page. older ≠ wiser 16:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- So it is! Thanks, User:HopsonRoad 21:07, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 March 2013
- WikiProject report: The 'Burgh: WikiProject Pittsburgh
Our travels have brought us to Pittsburgh, the American city known for steelworks and bridges.
- Featured content: One and a half soursops
Seven articles, one list, six pictures, and one topic were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
- Arbitration report: Two open cases
This case, brought by Mark Arsten, was opened over a dispute over transgenderism topics that began off-wiki. The evidence phase was scheduled to close March 7, 2013, with a proposed decision due to be posted by March 29.
- News and notes: Sue Gardner to leave WMF; German Wikipedians spearhead another effort to close Wikinews
Sue Gardner, executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation since December 2007, has announced her plans to leave the position when a successor is recruited. Ranked as one of the most powerful woman in the world by Forbes magazine, Sue Gardner is widely associated with the rise of the Wikimedia movement as a major custodian of human knowledge and cultural products.
- Technology report: The Visual Editor: Where are we now, and where are we headed?
Since its inception in May 2011, the Foundation's Visual Editor project has grown to become one of its main focuses. As the project nears its two-year birthday, the Signpost caught up with Visual Editor project manager James Forrester to discuss the progress on the project.
- Recent research: "Ignore all rules" in deletions; anonymity and groupthink; how readers react when shown talk pages
A paper presented at last month's CSCW Conference observes that "Mass collaboration systems are often characterized as unstructured organizations lacking rule and order", yet Wikipedia has a well developed body of policies to support it as an organization.
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- EdwardsBot (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Syntactic predicate
Hi, you have changed 'parsers'-> 'formal grammar' in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Predicate&diff=547703689&oldid=547673267. Might be formal grammar sounds more important but we had no syntactic predicates when studied it. Syntactic predicates appear in parser technology, when you try to build one. The predicates are useful to guide the parser telling which branch it should take. Actually, I think that the Syntactic predicate article must point this out. Why do you say that it is a part of formal grammar instead? --Javalenok (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I merely updated the disambiguation entry to match the lead text in the linked article. If there is something that needs to be clarified, the target article should be updated. Also, each entry on a disambiguation page should have only one blue link. If there is a distinct topic covered by the parsing article that is ambiguous with the term predicate, then perhaps a separate entry might be appropriate. older ≠ wiser 15:03, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Alba
My instinct was to revert as you've done ... but unfortunately that editor has moved what was at Alba to Alba (name). Undiscussed move of a long-established article with many incoming links - I've put in a request at Technical Requests to have both moves reverted (he's moved the dab page too). There could be a discussion whether Scotland's ancient name is or is not primary usage, but it's not uncontroversial. PamD 11:40, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
About 8
The Signpost: 01 April 2013
- Special report: Who reads which Wikipedia?
The Wikimedia Foundation has released its latest report card for the movement's hundreds of sites. The WMF has published statistics about the sites since 2009, but only recently have these been expanded in scope and depth to provide a rich source of data for investigating the movement and the world it serves. Dutch-born Erik Zachte is the driver of the WMF's statistical output, and he writes that the report card and accompanying traffic statistics comprise "enough tables, bar charts and plots to keep you busy for a while".
- WikiProject report: Special: FAQs
This week's Report is dedicated to answering our readers' questions about WikiProjects. The following Frequently Asked Questions came from feedback at the WikiProject Report's talk page, the WikiProject Council's talk page, and from previous lists of FAQs.
- Featured content: What the ?
The Signpost interviewed prolific featured content creator and former Signpost "featured content" report writer Crisco 1492 about ? and Indonesian cinema. ? was the "Today's featured article" for 1 April 2013. 1 April is popularly known as April Fools' Day in many countries.
- News and notes: Grants given for Wikipedia Library, six others; April Fool's Day ructions
The first round of individual engagement grants (IEGs) have been awarded, disbursing about $55.6k (€42.7k) to seven applicants.
- Arbitration report: Three open cases
A case brought by Lecen involves several articles about former Argentinian president Juan Manuel de Rosas (1793–1877).
- Technology report: Wikidata phase 2 deployment timetable in doubt
Users of ten Wikipedias got access to phase 2 of Wikidata following its first rollout to production wikis.
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The Signpost: 08 April 2013
- Wikizine: WMF scales back feature after outcry
Numerous Wikimedia Commons editors have chimed in on the Wikimedia Foundation's deployment of a new feature to its mobile website. Allowing anonymous users to register and upload pictures for use in an article, the feature was placed prominently at the top of Wikipedia articles in multiple languages.
- WikiProject report: Earthshattering WikiProject Earthquakes
This week, we felt the world tremble in the presence of WikiProject Earthquakes. The project was started in May 2008 to deal with articles about earthquakes, aftershocks, seismology, seismologists, plate tectonics, and related articles. While the project has seen success building 14 Featured Articles, one A-class Article, and 21 Good Articles, a fairly heavy workload remains, with a relative WikiWork rating of 4.94. WikiProject Earthquakes maintains a portal, a list of open tasks, a popular pages listing, and an article alerts watchlist.
- News and notes: French intelligence agents threaten Wikimedia volunteer
Last Friday, the Wikimedia movement awoke to news that one of their number—Rémi Mathis, a French volunteer editor—had been summoned to the offices of the interior intelligence service DCRI and threatened with criminal charges and fines if he did not delete an article on the French Wikipedia about a radio station used by the French military.
- Arbitration report: Subject experts needed for Argentine History
The arbitration committee is looking for expertise in Argentina and the Spanish language for a case involving former Argentinean president Juan Manuel de Rosas (1793–1877).
- Featured content: Wikipedia loves poetry
Four articles and two pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
- Technology report: Testing week
The deployment of phase 2 of Wikidata to the English Wikipedia, originally scheduled for 8 April but delayed due to technical problems, may be rescheduled again as the result of community resistance.
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File:Jacob Merritt Howard.png missing description details
is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors make better use of the image, and it will be more informative to readers.
If the information is not provided, the image may eventually be proposed for deletion, a situation which is not desirable, and which can easily be avoided.
If you have any questions, please see Help:Image page. Thank you. Theo's Little Bot (error?) 09:46, 14 April 2013 (UTC)The Signpost: 15 April 2013
- Op-ed: How do we fix RfA inactivity?
The RfA process is widely discussed here on the English Wikipedia and it has been well documented that less and less new Requests for adminship are being filed. There are an abundance of bytes devoted to the discussion and analysis of this situation and plenty of hands have been wrung over the matter. Various RfCs have attempted to find a way to fix the problem. Many proposals have been made offering solutions, some more potentially drastic than others, with the goal of making the changes necessary to kick–start RfA back into regular action. However, Wikipedia operates based on consensus and, to this point, there are have simply been too many disagreeing views for us to reach a consensus on how to increase RfA activity.
- WikiProject report: Unity in Diversity: South Africa
This week, we ventured to WikiProject South Africa. The project was started in February 2005 and is home to thirteen pieces of featured material, two A-class articles, and twenty-one good articles.
- News and notes: Another admin reform attempt flops
The most recent move to reform the requests for adminship process on the English Wikipedia has failed, after a complex and drawn-out three-step procedure for community input was subject to decreasing participation as time wore on and came up with no clear consensus.
- Featured content: The featured process swings into high gear
Four articles, twelve lists, and seven pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
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The Signpost: 22 April 2013
- In the media: Wikipedia inaccurate, says Florence; New Wikipedia app for breaking news
An article by John Sweeney published on 22 April 2013 on scnow.com, the website of the Florence, South Carolina Morning News, reported that Florence city officials have taken to monitoring and correcting the Wikipedia article on their city.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Editor Retention
This week, we spent some time with a project that develops tools and methods for improving the user experience in the hope that new users will continue editing the encyclopedia. The project was started in July 2012 and has grown to include 124 members. The project's members partner with the Teahouse and the Welcoming Committee to spread WikiLove, welcome new users, encourage civility, and other related activities.
- News and notes: Milan conference a mixed bag
The Wikimedia Conference is an annual meeting of the chapters to discuss their status and the organisational development of the Wikimedia movement. For the first time it included groups that wish to be considered for WMF affiliation as thematic organisations and one of the three groups that was recently affiliated as a user group. The conference was also attended by members of the Wikimedia Foundation's (WMF) Board of Trustees, the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC), the WMF Affiliations Committee, and a representative of the Wikivoyage Association.
- Featured content: Batfish in the Red Sea
Nine articles, four lists, eight pictures, and one topic were promoted to "featured" status this week on the English Wikipedia.
- Arbitration report: Sexology case nears closure after stalling over topic ban
The Sexology case is nearing completion after arbitrators were unable to agree on a topic ban for one of the participants.
- Technology report: A flurry of deployments
On Monday, the English Wikipedia became the 12th wiki to be able to pull data from the central Wikidata.org repository, with other wikis scheduled to receive the update on Wednesday.
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- EdwardsBot (talk) 12:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
PROD tags should not be replaced
Hi. This edit of yours to Los Teke Teke was improper: once a PROD tag has been removed by anyone, including the article author, for any reason or none, it may not be replaced - see WP:PROD#Objecting. The point is that PROD is intended for uncontroversial deletions, to save unnecessary work at AfD, but if someone removes the PROD template the deletion is evidently not uncontroversial, and any further deletion proposal must be done by AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:33, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Proposed deletion
Notify author/project: == Proposed deletion of Los Teke Teke ==

The article Los Teke Teke has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- no sign or source of notability. Poorly written. Not encyclopedic. WP:Fart
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:52, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Timestamp: 20130428194656 19:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:52, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- FYI Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Los Teke Teke 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
County government in the United States
You had recommended that someone start an article titled County government in the United States and now that it exists, the reactionaries are proposing to merge it away. Please see: Talk:Local government in the United States. I think it would be a great loss.Greg Bard (talk) 08:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- @ Bkonrad Any reason why you don't like the mentioning of the models and edited them out? To me it merely opened up an opportunity to explain the differences in the Virginia model, the Pennsylvania model and the New England model. Something I could have done, once I had a bit more time. Or if someone else didn't. It's a great level 101 way to open up education on why exactly our county governments are structured the way they are.Redddbaron (talk) 13:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- It seemed out of place and partially redundant with the last sentence of preceding paragraph. And the source provided did not actually support the statement (it was on other pages in the same site, but that is a rather sloppy sort of citation). I don't object to describing these different models more clearly, but a somewhat cryptic, unsourced, one-sentence statement isn't very helpful. older ≠ wiser 14:13, 4 May 2013 (UTC)