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on surya Namaskar you write: "The origins of Surya Namaskar are vague; Indian tradition connects the 17th century saint Samarth Ramdas with Surya Namaskar exercises, without defining what movements were involved.^[1]"

i checked the quote and it did not define "what movements were involved". is that what you meant to say when you wrote "without defining what movements were involved"? Catchpoke (talk) 22:44, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

"without" in British usage indeed means the negative of "with". I'd always supposed this to be universal in English, how interesting to find it's seemingly not; but even if it's a tad unfamiliar, it's hard to imagine that anyone would suppose it meant "with". I think it might be better, if copy-editing is indeed needed (not very much, as my English is careful, and the article has been formally reviewed), if a British copy-editor were to attempt the task. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:23, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, we just got caught in an edit conflict and I'd just gotten through filling the meaty and complicated citation template so I felt forced to save it. Sorry for any inconvenience. Hope it can be fixed. 92.24.246.11 (talk) 19:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries about the article. Welcome to Wikipedia! Always best to keep a copy in a subpage of your user page, or in a text or Word file, if doing anything very complicated - or just build it up in stages, of course. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Cheers! I've dipped in before, so it wasn't horribly complicated, but I often mess it up a few times before being able to save. :) Thanks for sorting it out. 92.24.246.11 (talk) 19:20, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Chiswich Chap, Kiernan has gone free and online--the website has a lot of ins and outs and I haven't seen all of it, but here is the text. Note that the line numbering is different--he ends up with 3,184, I'm not exactly sure where he differs from the "standard" version that you had cited. Andy Orchard summarizes some of the arguments for and against emendation; a much-discussed passage is around line 389, where Wulfgar tells Beowulf he can come on in--maybe you can read this in Google Books. I don't know how far you are in your Beowulf studies but his book is a standard. Klaeber's edition is now in its fourth installment, redone by Bjork, Niles, Fulk. Citing that edition or Kiernan's is preferable to citing Slade's website. Take care, Drmies (talk) 21:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I've added Kiernan. Luckily he offers a 'traditional' numbering mode so there's no tangle. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm working on Indian roller for a couple days. I'd get back to you when I'm ready. We can use this subsection for coordination. LittleJerry (talk) 22:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll get to turtle when we get the roller nominated for GA. LittleJerry (talk) 20:54, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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Hi! I was just reading our article on Gollum and was intrigued by the image File:Large Gollum by Tove Jansson.jpg. When I looked at the image page, though, I noticed that the publication date was given as 1979, but that date contradicts the accompanying article text, as well as the rest of the description of the image describing it as "early". I haven't read the earlier Hobbit that apparently didn't elaborate on Gollum's size and having seen the Bakshi film before reading either The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings I never would have assumed him to be large, but his small size is mentioned (or at least assumed) many times in the latter novel, which was published more than twenty years before 1979, so I guess it's just a typo, but would you mind checking? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. Jansson did the illustrations from 1960 for the 1962 Swedish edition Bilbo: En hobbits äventyr. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, that's still later than the revised Hobbit and the first printing of LotR, but not by so much that it couldn't be assumed she was working with an earlier text; in 1960 I imagine the vast majority of Hobbit copies floating around were still the earlier one, and I'd hate to imagine an illustrator being required to read an as-yet-untranslated Two Towers (1959-1961?) to produce images for The Hobbit. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

She certainly didn't; and the TT that you know incorporates JRRT's changes to make it clear that Gollum wasn't huge. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:17, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that you are responsible (according to "Who Wrote That?" tool) for the section of Yehudi lights which reads "Pilots noted that in a crosswind, the nose of the plane would not point directly at the enemy, but could be, say, 20 degrees off, to compensate for the wind. Since making the beams bright enough at such a wide angle was impracticable, pilots were instructed to fly on the curving approach path which keeps the nose pointed towards the enemy at all times, rather than a straight-line path with the nose pointed upwind."

I think this is interesting and I followed the links to the PDF referenced. What I found is that the strategy was much simpler than you make it sound. Instead of pilots being instructed to fly a specific curve (which would need to be plotted, I'm not sure how, and would vary as the crosswind varied) they were "instructed to 'home' on the target". This much simpler proposition than sticking to a curving approach path—essentially they're being told to disregard the crosswind and just keep the nose pointed at the target. The "slightly curved course" is a consequence of that simple rule. I think your wording implies that the pilots were told to follow a curved path, which would I suppose be practical (see Oboe (navigation)#Technical_details) but only if the desired path could be calculated/located easily and not be subject to change when the wind changed.

I didn't want to just jump in and reword your text. Let me know what you think. Theoh (talk) 00:52, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Well spotted. I've turned the sentences around to make this clear. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:12, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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> thanks for the thought...

-) You're right. Merge needed. Thought my rv would be correct from having looked at the edits I was reverting. (Re. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1019592890)--50.201.195.170 (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

But in your summary, you wrote "I already restored the one that was deleted". You actually restored one of the several that were deleted, most of which remain so.--50.201.195.170 (talk) 03:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Ah, if that's so then the others will obviously need to be restored too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:18, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

When I moved your hook for Khraniteli into the queue, I found it incomprehensible. So I changed it from

• ... that Tom Bombadil, dropped by Peter Jackson, appears in a Russian film of The Lord of the Rings?

to

• ... that the character Tom Bombadil, omitted by Peter Jackson in his later version, appears in a Russian film of The Lord of the Rings?

I am just mentioning it here in case you object to the change. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:01, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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Thoughts on nominating this article at FAC? At this point, I don't see how the article could be significantly improved. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

That's very bold. I don't think it's as straightforward a case as Clark Hall, but I'm glad that the article has made the transition from AfD case to FA candidate in your mind. If you're confident, why not. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:36, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

It's bold, but I think the work we did put any good-faith arguments about notability to rest. In some respects, this article reminds me of Sutton Hoo Helmet (sculpture)—another AfD to FAC example—where I wasn't entirely confident about its chances at FAC (there, due to size; here, due to history), but where I ultimately nominated it because I thought it was at or close to the best possible version of itself. So fingers crossed, but I'll probably put this one up too. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Excellent. Well I'll be happy to help. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry, Cwmhiraeth - the article has accreted a considerable volume of material since FAC, quite a lot of it cited to wobbly sources reporting on primary science a) for universities (i.e. the 'Harvard news' sort of science-based puffery) b) for popular science sites on the web c) for light magazines reporting on fascinating and disgusting science facts, from New Scientist (just about bearable) to Wired and worse d) books for the general public doing much the same. All of these, I think, would get a roasting at FAR, not a pretty thought. We ought to replace these with either the original primary science reports, or better, find scientific review articles or updated textbooks that discuss the findings in a decent secondary way. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:36, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm sure you're right. :) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:07, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

All contributions appreciated; good work all round. I've fixed a dozen of the worst of the atrocities. The Thomas Carefoot / A Snail's Odyssey source is borderline flaky, it'd be nice to get rid of its multiple appearances. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:14, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

For the excellent work on Tolkien's legendarium and associated articles. I particularly enjoyed Tolkien and the modernists and Tolkien's frame stories. By the way, is your list of your Tolkien diagrams complete? I think this one is missing (and this one and this one), but maybe that is intentional? Carcharoth (talk) 09:29, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, and I've added [the first one, edit conflict]... I fear that whereas getting LOTR to GA means a better experience for millions of readers every year, work on literary aspects of the legendarium may give pleasure to thee, me, and old Falstaff's dog... still, I'm glad there are three of us! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

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Okay, I'm ready. I'm going to start on Anatomy and morphology. You can work on Taxonomy/Evolution. For cultural depictions, I think we should stick to examples given by general sources like this and or peer-reviewed cultural articles. We probably shouldn't cherrypick a source that just happens to mention TMNT. See what I did for Wolf, Orangutan, Zebra and Beaver, for examples.

The book "Biology of Turtles" is available on zbooks. I could email you a file if needed. I also think we should use US English since there are no native species in the UK. But I promise we'll use UK English next time. LittleJerry (talk) 22:38, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry: Welcome back. I already did a chunk of work on phylogeny and culture back in, ah, December. On Culture, why don't you cut any sources you think inappropriate now, to show me what you mean exactly? I'll have another look soon. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:10, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I guess I could write the culture section. Could you work on a "Distribution and habitat" section. Lifecycle (egg-laying and growth) can be merged with reproduction ("Reproduction and lifecycle) and diet added to behavior. LittleJerry (talk) 18:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

OK, why don't we start like that, and then maybe we can switch about if we feel like doing a bit on the other sections...? Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:07, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Should I continue to write for anatomy or wait for Brownkr to respond? LittleJerry (talk) 20:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I think you continue, it'll probably work out. Students tend to sign up for multiple options, and there are choices both in this article and in other articles. If not, you can share your notes with him and do the culture etc instead. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure I really want to wait for Brownkr to get to finishing the head subsection. Should we just work on the article wherever we want and let him decide what he can do? LittleJerry (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry: I guess so; it often happens that students do nothing until their deadline, then fire their section edits and forget – which doesn't really matter, if it's usable we use it, if not we don't. I think we just get on and see what happens. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:58, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry: It's looking a bit better already... Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:06, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry I think we're OK to edit now tho not sure what that student is up to ... the bot rescued 2 of the refs ... maybe we can guess where he got the others from! I've fixed many small issues and have updated the phylogeny and written a bit on Culture and Conservation. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay then, but I would like to rewrite the Culture section. If that's okay. LittleJerry (talk) 20:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Rewrite ... that's quite a word choice. The section has many reliably-cited and certainly relevant facts already. Revise, extend, reorganise even. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:06, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, I'm just not a fan of the sources. Like I said above I feel we should use general sources like this and this and look at examples they use, instead of cherrypicking from different online sources. Hog Farm and Nikkimaria have pointed out the problems with doing this. LittleJerry (talk) 23:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry: Hm, well, let's see what you come up with then. I feel however that the images are well-chosen and the text covers the right areas under basically the right headings. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:18, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I'll get back to culture later. For now, I'll work on feeding. LittleJerry (talk) 14:50, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I've purged the flakiest of the sources and the associated text. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

BTW I've completed a first pass on the topics you suggested. I notice that two major topics for marine turtles, swimming (hydrodynamics etc) and migration, are barely mentioned. Do you have a suitable book chapter you can send me? The serious textbooks are extremely expensive. I can make a start from some of the journal papers.

There's a chapter "The Endless Journey" in Orenstein's book. I'll try to get a scan. The book "The Biology of Sea Turtles" is also available on zbooks. LittleJerry (talk) 13:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

That's great. I'll see if I can find it on zbooks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:11, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I notice, too, the old issue of the difficulty (aka impossibility) of separating "anatomy and morphology" from physiology and function, e.g. the clumsily-named "Limbs and tails" is actually about locomotion, which would be the natural title for the section, were it not for people's desire to fit it into "anatomy", which it obviously isn't. Maybe we should just go right ahead and change this. "Anatomy and physiology" is still awkward (and not the whole story, swimming isn't physiology exactly) but at least an improvement; "Form and function" would actually be more truthful. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Feeding is more complex than I thought. There's a lot to unpack. I think I'm going to structure it like we did for bat. LittleJerry (talk) 18:23, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, ch. 8 of Wyneken, Godfrey, Bels is fascinating. As for Bat .. ah, I see .. yes, a paragraph on meat-cutting and one on plant-grinding jaws would be in order. But I don't think we need a terribly long summary for the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:27, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Could you write a "thermoregulation" section? LittleJerry (talk) 00:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Give it a go. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:39, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry: my copy of Turtle by Louise M. Pryke has just arrived. Its 160 small pages provide a detailed history of the natural history of the turtle in the world's cultures (with quite a good overview of the biology too). It'll be more than enough for the Culture section, indeed it could be the foundation of a substantial revision of Turtles in culture, with its many citations. I'll read it through and potter about the subject a bit. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Cool! I'll rewrite the subsection on eggs and hatching. LittleJerry (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

OK; the temperature thing is related both to development and to the effect of climate change on turtle conservation. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

As far as main topics are concerned, I think all we need are circulation, senses and defense. I'll write the last one and am still waiting for Faendalimas on circulation. LittleJerry (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I'll have a nose around Senses. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello there! I must thank you for your advice and your welcome message. I will definitely review the information you provided!

Thank you! Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:26, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Help copy edit. Thank you. Vnosm (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking of me, but you need the copy-editing task force. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:37, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again for the review! And, for that matter, for your willingness to indulge in my penchant for digging deep. --Usernameunique (talk) 09:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you today for your share in Scorpion, about "an iconic group of deadly predators"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda, your work both on articles and encouraging other editors is beyond price. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Scorpionism § Proposed merge of Scorpion sting into Scorpionism. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Chiswick Chap

We encountered each other in the past on the asana articles and I noticed you are interested in bringing them up to GA. Since you've done so much on them and because I haven't reviewed most of the articles in the series, I would recommend you do what you did on trikonasana, with regards to my latest feedback, to the other articles in the series. Maybe I can review them when they are GAs or maybe sooner. Warmest regards. Catchpoke (talk) 21:53, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Do you think we should create an asana (manual of style) guideline? Catchpoke (talk) 22:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

On your first point, maybe, I'll take a look. On the second, no, the total number of articles has been stable for a while now, and frankly there has been little editing to them; further, I went through them to assess GA potential and have brought all that I felt worth bringing to that status. So basically it's not worth a style guide to tidy up some Variations sections. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:35, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Chiswick Chap, just to let know that John Thirtle, which you reviewed when it was a GAN, is now a FAC, please feel free to leave any comments here. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 12:40, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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Have been aware of some of the latest editing imbroglios, but been too busy to follow it properly (and I see I am actually nearly a month behind!). Thought I should pop in even if only briefly, and see if you would like these two links: Woke of the Rings and The Woke J.R.R. Tolkien. I probably shouldn't say too much more! I may view the talks afterwards as I think they are put up on YouTube for anyone to see. Carcharoth (talk) 23:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Carcharoth ridiculous... and Birns has graced it with his presence. It's a thing when discussion is based on mob think rather than logic, it couldn't happen on this project. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

A notice, due to the bot's shortcomings handling co-nominator situations, that I've begun reviewing Turtle at GAN. It's a pretty strong article so far -- good work. Vaticidalprophet 13:21, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you very much. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:33, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hello again. I replied to your criticisms of my proposed changes to Template:Yoga a while ago, but you've not yet replied back. I'd appreciate a reply at Template talk:Yoga so that things can move forward and I can draft a version of the template that we might both agree is an improvement. Scyrme (talk) 22:16, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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Not asking to fight about it, I'm hardly a fan with a theory. Just read about the guy decades ago and forgot about him till he ran by in a dream the other day and one of my "slumber party" exclaimed "That's Tom Bombadil!" So I looked him up when I awoke, partially bringing us here today and partially reassuring me he was a character, not an item. Strange character, of course, likely not literally "just one man", but surely some sentient masculine being of sorts. If "item" means something else in literary England, you might have a point. Anyway, I agree the section is clear enough about its purpose as a list, three cheers to you! InedibleHulk (talk) 19:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Er, the items in question were the "primary" mentions by Tolkien of Bombadil, not the guy himself. Whatever. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I'd have never even thought to think of the mentions, thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:30, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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Please see talk page of "Template:Yoga". I like to believe you know the topic well. I had a concern and want someone, who knows the topic better, to address it. I presume you are the right person because the template edit history shows you have been watching it. In case you are not the right person, then please get someone else to fix that template please. I leave it in your capable hands, and I am out of both here and that template. Thanks in advance. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 21:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

I'll nominate turtle for FAC this coming week. There are some other things I would like to take care of this weekend. In the meantime, I think all we need is a cite for the last part of the second paragraph of the breathing subsection and perhaps some of the cites in the culture subsection could be replaced with Pryke. I'm pretty sure she mentions the fable, TMNT and the Mock Turtle. LittleJerry (talk) 22:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I'll take a look. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry Well, the fable is cited to Aesop, but I've added Pryke; the myth is already cited to Pryke; the Mock Turtle very properly to Carroll himself - Pryke doesn't seem to cover it, oddly; and TMNT to New York Times; added Pryke there too. I didn't know I was doing respiration but I've fixed the passage. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll nominate it tomorrow. I need to make some changes to the giraffe article first. You can do it sooner if you wish. LittleJerry (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Need your help at the FAC page. LittleJerry (talk) 11:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Well, I've had a go. All the sources need to be checked before we request another source check, which had better pass without a glitch. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

There's a cite error for citation 2. LittleJerry (talk) 13:48, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

The citation had been duplicated (long ago) but the bot only added archive data to the first one ... now merged. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Reproduction, breathing and suborder differences should be good now. I think the whole Anatomy, Behavior and Reproduction sections are cleared. Any text leftover from before we started should be checked. LittleJerry (talk) 02:44, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry, well that seems to be that for this attempt, let's call it off now. I think that starting from a wobbly text is simply too dangerous for FAC, one needs to start afresh and be clear, tidy, and careful from the outset - it's much less work and it yields a better product. If you want to polish the article up and push it through peer review, I guess I can lend a hand. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay, then I have withdrawn the nomination. LittleJerry (talk) 17:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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On 7 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Insect flight, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that unlike most other insects, dragonflies have direct flight, the muscles being attached directly to the wing bases (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Insect flight. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Insect flight), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

I do not know where this rule "must have the same term" comes from. However, the article sculling does not talk about the sculling draw stroke that canoists use, which is what the sentence is about, while the sculling draw stroke is listed, and explained, in the article canoe paddle strokes. Did you look at the two articles? I think it is clearly more informative to a reader to have a link to an article that explains the term being used, whatever the name of the article is. Please reconsider your reversion. Would you feel different if there was a redirect from sculling draw stroke to canoe paddle strokes? AJim (talk) 04:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

WP:EASTEREGG. I've created and linked a redirect. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:29, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

On 13 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Duke of Sussex, Acton Green, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Duke of Sussex has been providing drinks in Acton Green for over a century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Duke of Sussex, Acton Green. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Duke of Sussex, Acton Green), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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On 13 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Acton Green, London, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Duke of Sussex has been providing drinks in Acton Green for over a century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Duke of Sussex, Acton Green. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Acton Green, London), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:04, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I know you must live around there, but I get the feeling that Acton Green is not particularly well-defined as a neighborhood. I could find only limited sourcing describing it as a neighborhood, and no maps showing its boundaries. The pdf in the article shows more of a planning area. To me it seems more of a gradient within South Acton, "the residential area in the vicinity of Acton Green (the Common) that is in South Acton". In my neck of the woods, I've often found that one can get very granular when talking to people who live there with me, but it doesn't translate well when I go to find the edges. It's vague. Abductive (reasoning) 14:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Abductive: It's rather sharply delimited to the north and to the west by railway lines, to the east by the estate boundary of Bedford Park, and to the south by the green (the common) itself. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

What streets are the estate boundary? I ask in order to check if the coordinates I put in the article need adjusting. Abductive (reasoning) 18:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

West is Ivy Crescent, Weston Road... North is Bridgman Road, Fletcher Road, Southfield Road... East is St Alban's Avenue... South is the common itself i.e. Acton Green, with Hardwicke Road, Bolton Lane, Colonial Drive. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:18, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

My coordinates are pretty good, then. Thanks. Abductive (reasoning) 00:43, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Jonathan Carr (property developer) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Pamzeis (talk) 15:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Pamzeis, thanks for review, I've replied there. Hope that's OK, I've never been too sure of DYK practices. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

How about expanding the "Cultural references" for gorilla using this book? LittleJerry (talk) 17:23, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Give it a go. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

A couple of weeks ago you created the dab page Queen Anne Revival architecture along with your work on British Queen Anne Revival architecture. This created around 100 links to the dab page. I am trying to sort these out based on whether the building/architect is UK or US/Canada/Australia etc but could you take a look and check I have not linked to the wrong one.— Rod ^talk 15:37, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

OK, it's worth it as the old links only had the option of linking to a multi-topic page. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:40, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I've done most of the links on this list but there are some left & a few odities I wasn't sure what to do with:

• Queen Anne Revival redirect
• Category:Queen Anne Revival architecture in the United Kingdom
• Index of architecture articles
• Category:Queen Anne architecture

Help appreciated.— Rod ^talk 15:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Done a bit of dabbing and labelling. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:Rodw and Chiswick Chap. I revisited Rodw's disambiguations to find all U.S. places and use links to Queen Anne architecture in the United States article instead. This was for 20 or 30 articles or so, presumably getting rid of about 30 or so links from U.S. places to the term "Queen Anne Revival". Please see Talk:New World Queen Anne Revival architecture. For the U.S. there are _many_ thousands of articles in Category:Queen Anne architecture in the United States by state, all or most of which link to "Queen Anne architecture in the United States". I did not create that article, but someone did in general agreement with you that what is termed "Queen Anne" in the U.S. is not really old Queen Anne but rather is a revival. I am not sure, but I suspect the usage in the U.S. of "Queen Anne" rather than "Queen Anne Revival" is valid and preferable, even though one might make the argument they "should" all be called Queen Anne Revival (but they are not called that, and you can't fight general usage...). I would be happy to participate in some central discussion if there is to be a proposal to change all the U.S. usages, but please for now let's leave all the U.S. ones linking to the "in the United States" article, okay? Thank you to both of you for your good work. --Doncram (talk) 22:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, in the US it's not a "revival" of anything, anywhere, but originally a marketing term for an eclectic new style. I've commented at the other pages. I suppose Rod overlooked the US page, hence all the wrong links. It would be much better to discuss all this before! Johnbod (talk) 23:28, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Dear Chiswick Chap, today I was exploring some math art pages and I found you. Congratulations for your impressive contributions. I am a new user in Wikipedia and the main reason I wanted to edit Wikipedia was to add a few useful sections to Hamid Naderi Yeganeh. It is about a few years that I've learned about Hamid Naderi Yeganeh's art and I became extremely interested in his work. After I created my account, I added a few sections to Hamid Naderi Yeganeh. After a few minutes I received a message saying that my edit was possibly vandalism. I got surprised since my edit was very useful and valuable and was from authentic references. I tried to add the sections for the second time more cautiously. My edits was reverted again and this time I became accused of using multiple accounts. I don't know why I became accused of having multiple accounts but I guess that's because I imitated the edits of other editors in Hamid Naderi Yeganeh. Since I'm new to Wikipedia I needed to learn a few things from previous editors. Now I became so disappointed since believe me my edits were very useful and valid but they became reverted without a logical reason. I'm sure they undid my edits without scientifically reviewing it. I'm sending you this message because I would like to ask you to take a look at my edits: (this revision is the most perfect version: 1040033504). I vehemently believe that they are valuable and they can give the readers vital information about Naderi Yeganeh's art. They undid my edits twice without reviewing them. I think that's unfair because it took me a few hours to make those edits and I tried my best to do them accurately. I eagerly look forward to hearing your opinion about my edits. Math CRXVC (talk) 02:10, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I'm sorry you had a rough start. Editors are constantly looking out for vandalism and they can get it wrong, especially with new accounts where they have no history to help them. You certainly can edit the article; I'd advise you to start small with little fixes that nobody would object to, and small additions, very carefully cited to the best sources, so you are as safe as possible. Restoring deleted materials is a bold move; probably best to discuss that first on the article's talk page, as it looks argumentative. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, Chiswick Chap. Recently I've begun reviewing GAN in the literature section, so as to reduce the backlog there. I skipped this article because its sources are in Swedish, which I don't speak. So I want to ask you if you'd be okay with me reviewing it (possibly using google translate or asking for you to translate sections when/if needed) or if you'd rather I skip it so someone else with knowledge of the language might review it at a later point in time. Thanks, Isabelle ^🔔 16:21, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Isabelle Belato, I'd be delighted if you did it. Of course I'll lend a hand with anything in Swedish. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:24, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Unless someone decides to pick it up, I'll start a review in the next day or so. Isabelle ^🔔 16:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hi! I recently reviewed your Chiswick High Road article and I found it very well written. If you have any other GA nominations in the following category's, just tell me in my talk page and I will be happy to review it.

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Hi Chiswick Chap, thank you for amazing articles that you've produced! I always wondered how people find source materials, either academic source or from media for their articles. I'd like to know what are some of the methods that you personally find useful. I, as an IP, generally use google scholars for finding academic source materials (along with of course, few googling to get some sources from media). But what other methods that you personally use? Curious to know, Thanks! 2A0E:1C80:E:0:0:0:0:18 (talk) 19:22, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the same. Then read the books and papers, follow the major authors. The newspapers for current developments. The usual things. Chiswick Chap (talk) 22:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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On a side note, if this is a topic that really interests you, you may be interested in David Rowe's book, The Proverbs of Middle-earth -Pax Verbum 07:13, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello again! I've finished going over the article and left a couple of comments on GA section 3. I will wait 7 days before finalizing the review to give some time to respond and address those comments. Overall an interesting topic that I enjoyed quite a bit. Thank you! -Pax Verbum 05:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

On 5 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jonathan Carr (property developer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jonathan Carr's 342 bankruptcy petitions set a record? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jonathan Carr (property developer). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jonathan Carr (property developer)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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For the Pryke Book. Do did get a physical copy or use the web verison? If the physical version, then could you correct the page numbers I added (cites 63, 160, 166) Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 13:11, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Done those three. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:23, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Do you think we should add a section to the Smaug article comparing his defeat to Achilles' heel?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 17:06, 16 September 2021 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

Source? None of the scholarly books on my shelf make the comparison. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:26, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

All the books on page 1 of this Google search and the first book on page 2.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

https://www.google.com/search?q=achilles+heel+smaug&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWtN7IqITzAhW9VTABHSMMDvQQ_AUoAXoECAEQCw&biw=1536&bih=722&dpr=1.25

OK. I've used Pearce, who (with care) is a helpful viewpoint on Tolkien. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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I only just noticed Khraniteli, that is amazing! Also loved Chiswick High Road (I spent several years travelling to work on a bus that ran along the entire length of that road). Quick request, if you are interested in evolutionary biologists. The latest laureate at Heinrich Wieland Prize is Thomas Boehm, who I think is an evolutionary molecular biologist (OK, on closer inspection, he is a molecular geneticist, maybe even an epigeneticist, but that work is relevant to evolutionary theory). There is no en-Wikipedia article, but there is an article in the German Wikipedia. Do you think an article is possible here? (Maybe ditto for the 2019 laureate - the other redlinks may be more difficult). Carcharoth (talk) 10:36, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the warm words, it's much appreciated. I'll take a look at Boehm, we can surely translate the DE article at least. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

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I think everything's fixed. Should I re-nominate? LittleJerry (talk) 22:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Talk page item seems not to have been addressed ..... Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I deleted it. LittleJerry (talk) 11:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Then at least you need to respond to the talk page comment explaining the resolution of the issue (why was deleting the 2nd mention correct?). Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I brought it back and rearranged the wording. The user didn't read the entire section, though, as it went on to show several studies placing turtles closer to archosaurus. LittleJerry (talk) 12:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

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I removed the first sentence because was out of place. It was unnecessary, being contained entirely within the next section of literary analysis verbatim. I did not remove any information, simply improved the clarity of the style. Captgouda24 (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC) Captgouda24

Ah, I see what's happening... you are giving mentions that are just slightly misleading. There, you meant "in the second subsection" but said "next"; here you meant "The Lay of CoH" but just said "CoH" without linking the axtual target --- a different book and article --- so I had to go and search for it. Well, restore your edit; the section would benefit from an introduction but that isn't it. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Captgouda24 You may like to know that you managed, for the second time, to accidentally delete the citation that remained in use, 2 sections down; you were saved by the bot that rescued and repaired the citation from the article history. Deleting links of course triggers a tag next to your edit, which (you may note) serves as a possible-vandalism alert to all other editors. They then put "deletion" and "removal of citation" together and go to the article to try to work out what happens, Twinkle or Huggle in hand. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

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	I noticed today that Professor Corey Olsen: A) Has a Wikipedia page B) It's actually, like, good, well-written and sourced and everything - apparently due to your hard work a few months ago. Thank you! I really enjoy his classes, it's great to see him represented here with such a nice page. Wikignome Wintergreentalk 00:20, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much, it's appreciated. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:11, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

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Could you add mention of Franklin the Turtle in Cultural depictions of turtles? I know its in Pryke's book. I don't have the physical copy so page numbers are different. LittleJerry (talk) 13:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:56, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Chiswick Chap, hope all is well. Could you elaborate on how Eyal Shifroni is a recognized expert? Nothing against them, but I genuinely cannot find any independent sourcing establishing this to be the case. Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:01, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

OK I've removed it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:10, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, I am here to ask that does Bellis perennis have any subspecies? BloxyColaSweet (talk) 21:48, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on that species, but B. perennis perennis is listed on GBIF ... so there must be others. The GBIF species page lists numerous subspecies but apparently as synonyms of the species itself, looks as if you'll have to investigate it all a bit. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:10, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

I shall find some reviews in Mythlore and JTR when I get a moment.--Verbarson (talk) 15:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Verbarson – Ah, good. I've had a nose about, and there is nothing on him at all academically, so we can't in all conscience list him as a "Scholar/Biographer" as per the template. Serious biographers like Garth get scholarly reviews. Early Mythlore was more or less fan-based; it has become much more serious in recent years so it's usable for notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:54, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

And something must be done about Sexuality in The Lord of the Rings#Tolkien's background - it makes it sound as if he barely spoke to a woman in his life! Passionate love affair? Romantic re-union after guardian's ban? Life-long marriage? Inspiring dance at Roos? Four children? Devotion to BVM? Not a hint, not even his wife's name. It's completely unbalanced. I'll get round to that as well.--Verbarson (talk) 16:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

That was certainly uncollegiate, and "I'll get round to that as well" hints at inappropriate motives on your part, something that I will remember. The article is reliably sourced and does no editorialising. As it happens I have great respect for Tolkien and his personal life, and I'll note that the article is no sort of attack upon his person. Since I always try to take suggestions constructively, I'll just say that there is no reason why we shouldn't add some background about him, and I'll take a look at that now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I apologise. I have no intention of being either uncollegiate or inappropriate. I observed that the background given, while entirely accurate in its facts, omitted any part of Tolkien's life that had an overt connection with female sexuality or heterosexual relationships. Given the topic, I felt that this was an unbalanced view of Tolkien. While I agree that he can be seen as both stodgy and sexist, I believe that there are other important aspects to him that should also be considered. As for "I'll get round to that", I was merely intending (as a good editor should) to make the proposed changes myself, rather than expecting you, or someone else, to do the work. I see that you have added a balancing paragraph, for which I thank you.--Verbarson (talk) 19:15, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. It's certainly an improvement to the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:48, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hi. I emailed you an article. Would you be able to make a cladogram based on Figure 2? Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 00:37, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

LittleJerry - le voici, as they say in France. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Aw, thank you! Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:54, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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'You have made the grammar less clear, less active, and more complex'. I contend that the passages in question read rather as though they were written in a sort of weird modern shorthand or Orwellian 'Newspeak' and, for that reason, stood out strangely on your page. I'm not going to undo your reversion or get into some tedious slanging match, given that you obviously care deeply about the page and are tigerish in its defence and, furthermore, that we are unlikely ever to agree about this. I was merely trying to be helpful: I hardly think my contribution rated as vandalism.
By the way, nice to see a fellow West Londoner on Wikipedia. yours in good faith Flobbadob (talk) 08:24, 25 November 2021 (UTC)Flobbadob

Many thanks. Obviously vandalism was nothing to do with it. I'll take another look at it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:31, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Your edits are mostly unobjectionable, but deleting the mention of the Gnostic demiurge is somewhat obfuscatory -- see the previous discussion on Talk:A Voyage to Arcturus... AnonMoos (talk) 20:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

AnonMoos - Thanks. Do you have a reliable source for it? Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

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— Maile (talk) 12:02, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

This phrase actually does occur once in the Lord of the Rings, as established in the talk page archives, but it's not really one of her common titles. AnonMoos (talk) 18:30, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

That would seem to be a very good reason not to use it. Tolkien went through literally thousands of drafts, and he tried out countless names and appellations (in many languages) for all his characters. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not advocating that the category should be added to the article page, but the phrase occurs one time in the published form of the Lord of the Rings, not just drafts... AnonMoos (talk) 21:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Noted. That just means that the chaos of the drafts continues with the "final" versions (yes, also multiple), it's "drafts" too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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Gosh, thank you very much! Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:37, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Chiswick Chap. I've got a question for which I can find surprisingly little info: what is the relation between Advaita Vedanta and yoga? That is, what did Shankara think of yoga, what influences can be found in his commentaries? And how was the later AV tradition influenced by yoga (see Madaio (2017), Rethinking Neo-Vedanta). Regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:03, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Y: Gosh, a vast subject way beyond my pay grade. However, Patanjali implicitly assumes quite a bit of dualist Samkhya philosophy, with its distinctions like mind/manas, intelligence/buddhi, and ego/ahamkara, without really talking about these aspects of nature/prakrti. Samkhya's goal of liberation/kaivalya at least fits closely with Patanjali's view. Advaita obviously sits uneasily with all this; if Advaita "was" Shankara then the answer would be, well, the traditions are different, even opposed; but post-Shankara Advaita certainly was influenced by yoga. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

He is venting spleen. He remade Mercury in fiction in his own image and likeness (removing comics, film and games) and took umbrage when I said it was restricted to several encyclopaedia of science fiction. I am tempted to remove the tag. --Whiteguru (talk) 22:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Noted. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:08, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Do you think Doga (yoga) title name should be primary and moved into Doga? 2001:4455:1A9:E100:C48:A690:9151:1BDF (talk) 23:58, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

I doubt if it can be justified as the primary topic. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:30, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Since you did a page for the cuisine of the Channel Islands, do you plan on making one for the Isle of Man's cuisine as well? It is the only Crown Dependency without one now, and their chips, cheese and gravy could use a page and image.Vesperius (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Vesperius: Thanks for the thought. I don't, never having visited the place, but you are correct that an article would fit in the scheme of things. As someone who evidently has some familiarity with the cuisine, you might like to copy the general style of the Channel Islands article and create at least a Start of an article... Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:09, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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A suggestion:

Moving masses of content to another Wikipedia article is Okay. Thanks for starting List of appearances of the Moon in fiction.
But WP:Copying within Wikipedia still applies. It should have been noted in the history pages, and at the talk pages of both articles. Do better next time, please.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen - another user deleted the content and went on editing for several months, having changed the purpose of the Moon in fiction article. I went into the history and rescued the deleted content, noting the fact in the first edit comment of List of appearances. So, your remarks could be better directed, really. The alternative, which I did consider, was to revert the Moon in fiction to its pre-deletion state, but as you've found, that would have been a contested action. I think the result, that we now have a passable text article as well as the list, isn't a bad one, and we were dealing with a "determined" editor. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

As yes. A determined user; who tears up the tracks.

I still have not recovered from the desecration of Mountain dog.

The other user finger pointed at you.

In any event, I was only trying to fix the problem, not fix the blame. Three cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:46, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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