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I would like to take the time to apologise to those I've had arguments with over the years and to those that I've essentially been a dick too over the years too,

I remember in 2014-2015 essentially finding my feet here and by 2016 making a good few friends .... and then unfortunately by 2017 I sort of changed essentially becoming someone I'm not - Telling everyone to F Off and simply not caring about the way I treat people,

If 2019 has taught me anything it's that you can lose friends and those closest to you easier than you gained them (if that makes sense), "Appreciate what you have before it turns into something you had" is a quote I wish I followed and it's a quote that certainly applies now (Not death-wise thankfully but friendship/relationship-wise),

Coming in to 2020 I would like to stop getting into or inserting myself into unneeded disputes (or commenting on disputes (Such as ANI, AE etc)) and instead focus my time and energy on articles, putting our readers first and building friendships with people along the way,

Anyway I again apologise to those I've had arguments with over the years and I would like to offer this olive branch for peace between us,

Anyway I wish everyone a very Happy and Healthy New Year and I wish you all the very best for 2020 🎇 🍻. Dave /// –Davey2010Talk 13:14, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!

Hi Crystallizedcarbon, You're very welcome and thank you for your greeting too :),
Thanks and I too hope you're enjoying 2020 and the final hours of the very first day,
I wish you all the very best for 2020, Take care, –Davey2010Talk 20:13, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
My very best wishes for you too as well Davey. The final hours of last year with friends and family were great, the first day of the year just doing nothing was also good. Now fully energized to take on this new decade!. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 10:08, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hey -Crystallizedcarbon, I'm glad you enjoyed your time with family and I'm glad you did nothing on the 1st :) - Like you I spent it with family and too did nothing,
Haha well 2nd, 3rd and 4th January I'm currently doing 8 hours shifts so I don't feel very energized at all lol,
Anyway all the best for 2020, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Time with loved ones and time with yourself is a good start, and that's what counts. Cheers. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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The pilot in command of an aircraft is the person aboard who is ultimately responsible for its operation and safety during flight. This would be the captain in a typical two- or three-pilot aircrew, or "pilot" if there is only one certificated and qualified pilot at the controls of an aircraft.
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Could you direct me to the move discussion for School bus? Sammy D III (talk) 01:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey Sammy D III, To my knowledge there wasn't one....... Other countries got moved out of the article and then someone unlaterally thought "hey, school bus should point to school buses in North Ameria..... That's my reading of it anyway, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 10:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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Hey Davey2010, just thought you'd want a heads up that both your links at AN/I lead to my talk page. I didn't want to overstep by changing them. --Pinchme123 (talk) 21:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey Pinchme123, Many thanks for the heads up, I've (hopefully) fixed them now :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

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thanks for pointing how that was not the right space for what i was looking for there...

but it still kept me wondering why there's no mention of chrome://flags in the article. isn't this something worth mentioning and discussing? cregox (T | C) 13:14, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi cregox, Please don't link months etc in your signature as this causes a wide range of problems, You're more than welcome to ask for flag mentions on the talkpage, thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

cool. i'll try. got little idea what you mean for the signature... but i also probably don't care enough to fix it now. that signature was coded over a decade ago. 15:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)  Preceding unsigned comment added by Cregox (talkcontribs)

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You could have just asked

That was nothing against you, I thought those were dead and confusing. I thought that Quad's last section was where things went to. If you want me to not post here just say "go away" in your summary. Sammy D III (talk) 15:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I never said it was nor did I ever think that ? ... I just didn't see a need to hat them that's all, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:54, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I just didn't want you to think it was nationalist censorship crap. Have a nice day-night. Sammy D III (talk) 16:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Not at all :), Thanks you too. –Davey2010Talk 16:21, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

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... for your recent thankyou, it made me happy. Bishonen | talk 19:41, 3 February 2020 (UTC).

Hey Bishonen, You're welcome, The fact someone felt the need to get upset over an admin topicon being on an ex-admins talkpage really does say a lot about that individual, It's a shame people like this exist here tbh, Anyway hope you're well :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:45, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Regarding a edit you made last month

Hello Davey, I would just like to request for your comments on a rather bold edit you made to List of bus routes in Singapore, specifically this edit: .

1. I should point out that the removal of the "direction" column and its replacement with "Origin" and "Destination" columns is... misleading at best, and is factually incorrect information at worst, since the table (as it currently stands now) now implies that every bus route listed is one-way from origin to destination, with no return trip (which is false; many bus services in Singapore ply in both directions). As a result, the list as it stands now currently makes no distinction between dual-direction bus services and single-direction bus services (and loop services); the purpose of the "direction" column was to make this distinction clear. Could you please clarify why this change was required?

2. You also removed the "Remarks" column in the same edit. I find that the remarks in many of the bus services essentially function as the histories of the respective bus services. Such content should be kept, as per WP:PRESERVE. I understand that a significant number of the sources in this section are from SBS Transit, and is thus considered a primary source; however, as per WP:PRIMARYCARE, this does not mean that the content should be removed (and besides, having information that is "useless to people outside Singapore" shouldn't be grounds for removal of content.) Moreover, other sources found in the Remarks are from secondary sources, such as the Land Transport Authority, and should also be kept per WP:GNG (and in fact, since it just concerns content in a list, WP:GNG does not apply, see WP:NNC instead. This means that the only policies that would apply here would be the content policies [specifically the policy on verification], which both the primary SBS Transit source and other secondary sources meet.) Any comment on this?

3. I support your last remaining change you made in the same edit, namely the removal of the section "Former Routes"; as SBS Transit has recently removed/deleted all of their press releases from December 2013 and earlier, most sources in that section are dead links now anyway, and I'm unsure if the vast majority of them have been archived.

Cheers from JaventheAldericky (talk) 16:51, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi JaventheAldericky, Not to be awkward in way, shape or form ... but I really have nothing else to say that I didn't already say in my edit summary,
The table is there to sort of state the to, from and via destinations and who runs that service .... The parameters such as Direction, Remarks (such as "White plate travels via Bedok North Street 3. Green plate returns via Bedok North Street 3. Extended to 1.00 am on the eves of Public Holiday" and Looped at Holland Drive until 17 December 2006.[143]") mean absolutely nothing to any one outside of Singapore,
Compare this article with say List of bus routes in London - Generally speaking that's how an article is supposed to look like,
You're more than welcome to reinsert the deleted material and then start an WP:RFC on the talkpage however my feeling is that be that it would be agreed the content I removed was correct and that even tho the remarks were sourced it would be deemed as "bus entuisast" content or again content that means nothing to anyone else, That being said I can't read minds and may well be surprised myself!,
Hope this reply helps, Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010Talk 17:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for the reply! I was, in fact, using the List of bus routes in London article as a comparison with the List of bus routes in Singapore article. One key difference I've noted is that a significant number of the bus routes in London have standalone articles of them (compared to none for Singapore). Most of those bus routes with standalone articles each have a significant history section detailing a specific bus route's history. This kinda is more or less what the "Remarks" section's content was all about (with some exceptions) - that is, that section was where the history of each of the bus routes was placed, in summarised form (as seen in your example of Looped at Holland Drive until 17 December 2006.", as well as other examples like Route extended from Tanah Merah Ferry Terminal to Airport Logistics Park Of Singapore (ALPS) from 15 December 2014., or like this rather wordy Amended to operate from Resorts World Sentosa from 29 January 2010. Route extended to serve Marina Bay Sands from 7 May 2010. Route heading toward City ceased from 30 April 2014.); since no bus routes in Singapore are notable enough to warrant their own articles, that "Remarks" column was pretty much the only place to put the route's history in.
What I think I can do tomorrow is to reinstate the deleted content (save for the "Former routes" section, unless I can actually find archived sources), but edit it for further clarification (e.g renaming the "Remarks" section to "Route history" maybe) and then remove really unnecessary detail like Express along TPE, and condense wordy history descriptions like the wordy example I gave above. Should someone else disagree with my change and revert it, I can go get a RfC going (though it would be my first time creating a RfC, oh well) for further discussion to reach a consensus.
Cheers from JaventheAldericky (talk) 15:46, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi JaventheAldericky, I'm not a great lover with having the "introduced" column(s) back however sourcing wise it'd obviously go in the articles favour and helps keep the article here atleast in the long run so i guess it can be added back providing each and every one is sourced,
I also have no objections to you reverting any of the edits providing obviously the cruft aspect of it isn't brought back if it is we can discuss it :),
Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010Talk 16:26, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

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stop deleting all the Translink SEQ route lists from pages. you arent even from Australia so it shouldnt affect you.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.22.177.139 (talk) 11:29, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Sorry 120 that isn't how this Encyclopedia works, Anyone and everyone is/are entitled to edit any article of their choosing,
The content you reinstated I removed back in 2016 and no one appeared to had cared so therefore the onus is now on you to get consensus on the articles talkpage to reinstate the list, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

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Mercedes-Benz Citaro page improvements

Hallo,

at first, I apologize that I undid your edits yesterday several times. I just tried to recover deleted contents, so I ask you to have understanding.

However, I have questions on you. You said that several newly added images on this page were awful. I have added these new images because I thought more necessary images will help people to understand the topic better. I didn’t know that the images must meet certain criteria to appear on the page. Could you explain what the picture requirements are?

So for example, the current title picture is about a Citaro C2 with Euro V standard. The most recent version of Citaro C2 is however with Euro VI standard, so an update of this image is required. I replaced the old one with a picture of BVG Berlin Citaro (with Euro VI), but you still want to keep the old one. Is instead an usage of a title image currently used on other wikipedia pages e.g. German version (de.wikipedia.org) allowed on English page? Or I must search for other images on Wikimedia Commons?

The same problem is also valid for an image of eCitaro. I’m waiting for your answer.

Kind regards Mingyu Tang Technology enthusiast (including buses) Mingyu Tang (talk) 21:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mingyu Tang, No need to apologise, This was entirely my error so my sincere apologies to you for yesterday,
Having compared both revisions today I realised you had actually improved the article and its images and I realised the images were related to the article headings,
My only problem is the infobox image (File:Mercedes C2 Berliner Verkehrsbetriebe .jpg) - That image is not as good as the now current image, I don't see anything wrong with this image,
Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010Talk 21:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Hallo Davey2010,
thank you for your fast answer. I understand that you want to improve the quality of title image, BUT the bus model shown in the picture is no longer current. The newest version of Citaro C2 is with Euro VI standard. You can recognize a bump on the back roof of Euro VI version, which is missing on the Euro V version.
So I still have to ask you: Is it ok when I update the title image to that used on German Wikipedia page? The Citaro is shown in the newest model there.
Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 21:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi Mingyu Tang, So is File:Mercedes Citaro C2 TANGO n°372 Romarins (cropped).jpg Euro VI ?, I assume so but wanted to double check, The image is from the German Wikipedia but I've cropped it :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Hallo Davey2010,
yes, this is the file what I mean. I see that you cropped the image. Nice work!
So do you mean I could update the infobox image to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mercedes_Citaro_C2_TANGO_n%C2%B0372_Romarins_(cropped).jpg? When you permit, then I can carry out this action right now.
Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 08:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Mingyu Tang, Ah okay brilliant many thanks for updating the image :),
Have a great day, Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010Talk 09:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Davey,
your welcome. I’m always available to improve Wikipedia pages. Have a nice day!
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If someone is storming off in a huff, it is usually not helpful to bully or taunt them on their way out. 28bytes (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

28bytes - It would be hypocritical of me to defend my edit summary whilst myself telling people to fuck off in the past in a huff, I was slightly annoyed with that talkpage message but agreed I could've been nicer, Thanks for your message, Kind Regards, –Davey2010Talk 17:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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I haven't created any pages User:PCHS-NJROTC ? .... –Davey2010Talk 18:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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List of bus routes in Singapore images

Hello there, I left a talk section on the talk page of List of bus routes in Singapore.

I feel you should replace the image on the top. It looks very untidy with the product placement, and besides it is only partially lush green; whereas the images I put up before you replaced them appear neater, nicer and are fully lush green. Don't you think so?

The ones that I have put up previously:

You may leave the the other image as it is, but please replace the image on top because it's really uncomfortable for users to read. 2679D (talk) 12:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Replied on the article talkpage, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

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Yeah, that IP was dealt with...it was their fifth IP address though! :D ——SN54129 12:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi User:Serial Number 54129, Wow!, Well the moment I reverted they then popped up under a new one so knew it wasn't going to stop anytime soon lol,
Shame really, All that energy spent on being a moron could've been much better spent on improving the articles here. –Davey2010Talk 12:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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