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are you planning on blocking those accounts i templated as vandalism? i saw that you deleted the pages but didn't block the accounts. which were vandalonly/nothere 217.74.150.213 (talk) 15:36, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

I wasn't going to, no. Blocks are meant to be preventative, and I don't see what imminent damage we would be preventing by blocking a user whose last edit was several months or even years ago. These were probably just burner accounts, but if they do come back and resume the vandalism, they can always be blocked then. That said, thanks for finding and reporting these vile edits, they certainly needed deleting, no argument there! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:04, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

What would you consider adequate for the article I submitted? Award nominations, references, over 37 million streams to their name. Also credits with artists who do have wiki articles.

Just wondering why such the speedy decline. Envyandother (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Envyandother: award nominations don't normally establish notability. Award wins may do, but the award itself must be notable enough, meaning must have its own article, which I don't think the MPG Awards do. Grammys are notable, of course, but then the award needs to name the person as the recipient, it's not enough that the person has worked on something that wins an award. In any case, these considerations apply to musicians and ensembles, per WP:MUSICBIO, which doesn't AFAIK include producers and engineers. Otherwise we're relying on the general notability guideline WP:GNG, which doesn't consider awards or any other such merits at all, it is solely concerned with significant coverage in multiple secondary sources. (Having "37 million streams" is not a notability criterion under any of our guidelines, nor is that even mentioned anywhere in the draft.)

And then there is the problem with referencing. The draft cites two sources, the first of which is user-generated and apparently controlled by the person in question, so it is neither independent nor particularly reliable. The second is the MPG Awards website which only mentions Vaughan once, as a shortlistee. This leaves the draft very insufficiently referenced. Which source gives his DOB, or his birthplace as Redditch? Where does it say that he first started playing the piano, and later switched to drums? Or for that matter, which source says that "his work has been considered for 3 Grammy Awards"? Articles on living people have particularly strict referencing requirements, and pretty much every statement you make, and certainly anything potentially contentious or of sensitive nature (such as DOB, which many people are rightly protective of), must be clearly supported by a citation to a reliable published source.

Hence, the "speedy decline". -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:25, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

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What exactly is wrong with the sources for article Soviet Meme Fucking Jackal? Can you respond with something other than a standard runaround? What depth do you expect from sources for an article about an internet meme? Or did you fail to read the sources in Russian? But the Wikipedia rules say that sources can be in any language. Is this discrimination based on language? Here is an article where all the links from the References list lead to something other than what is written. Here is an article where only one of the five links in the References list works. Here is an article where only one link in the Sources list does not work either. Answer honestly, do you think that the links in these articles cover the subject in sufficient depth? It turns out that the Wikipedia administration applies double standards, right? NikolayTheSquid (talk) 17:35, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

@NikolayTheSquid: three of your four sources are user-generated, and therefore not considered reliable. The fourth is just a YouTube upload of the cartoon (actually, also user-generated, but we'll let that one slide). Therefore none of the four contributes anything towards notability per WP:GNG, and can't even be used to verify any of the information. That, exactly, is what's wrong with these sources.

My job as a reviewer is not to go hunting for better sources which may (or may not) exist somewhere out there. I evaluate the draft based on the sources it presents. If you know of better sources, feel free to cite them in your draft, and resubmit. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

May i know the exact reason behind decline the article if possible could you please share with me how can I improve the article if possible. Saysky2 (talk) 12:52, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

@Saysky2: the problem was, and still is, that the contents are not sufficiently supported by inline citations to reliable published sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:01, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi @DoubleGrazing,

Could you please review this draft too Draft:2025 Tharali Flash Flood? Momosnep (talk) 12:44, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Sorry @Momosnep, I don't do on-demand reviews. The draft is in the pending pool, someone will review it sooner or later. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:51, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Momosnep (talk) 13:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Why the draft is declined ? I wanna know the problem and solve it Monemt (talk) 13:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@Monemt: the decline reason is given in the decline notice, but I guess you didn't read that? TL;DNR = the sources do not demonstrate that the subject is notable according to the WP:ORG guideline. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:09, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I read but if you check university like this Istanbul Kent Universityyou can see just 2 sources how this is accepted i have added 3 sources Monemt (talk) 14:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@Monemt: thank you for flagging up the Istanbul Kent article, that does not establish notability, either, therefore I have moved it into the draft space.

That article hadn't been 'accepted' by anyone, it had been published directly in the encyclopaedia by the author. It had not been reviewed by New Page Patrol yet, at which time it would have been moved to drafts, which is what I've just done.

In any case, we don't assess drafts by comparison to articles which may exist out there, but instead by reference to current policies and guidelines. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:34, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you i understand that but im trying to add more sources Monemt (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I added every single source from times higher education and any thing you can search whats the problem sir what should i do Monemt (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@Monemt: what you should do is wait for the draft to be reviewed again (although I can already tell you now that it won't be accepted), and meanwhile read some of the messages posted on your talk page: one of them asks what your relationship with this subject is, and the other tells you not to remove again the earlier declines and comments from the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I dont have any realtions with subject i wanna learn and this one is which listed in TR. wikipedia but not english also Bingölspor and some people so i just wanna learn and have one which accepted Monemt (talk) 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

• IceCreamToaster (talk · contribs)
  • Anchor Green Primary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  • Draft:Anchor Green Primary School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I don’t know why my article is not independent on the topic

IceCreamToaster (talk) 14:23, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@IceCreamToaster: your draft cites only one source (twice), the school's own website. We need to see significant coverage of this school in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and independent of it. Your one source doesn't meet any of those criteria. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:29, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

So I just have to find more sources to fix my draft and make it better as a whole? IceCreamToaster (talk) 14:34, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@IceCreamToaster: there is more to it than that.

Wikipedia articles should summarise what such sources have previously published. Your draft is clearly not based on any such source, therefore the information in has come from somewhere other than acceptable sources. If you were to now find some sources that meet the WP:ORG guideline and add those as citations, then you would end up with a draft where the content does not match the sources, which would not be acceptable either. What you need to do is start by finding appropriate sources, then summarising what they have published, and citing each source against the information it has provided (see WP:42 for more on this). You will almost certainly end up with a wholly different draft from what you currently have.

Note also that everything you say must be backed up by reliable published sources. Your draft is currently almost entirely unreferenced, therefore we have no way of knowing where this information has come from and whether it is true. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:39, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Wait when I want to specify a specific part of a source how do I do it? IceCreamToaster (talk) 23:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

So you go to smry dot ai and then you throw the url of the article in there and boom. removepaywalls dot com also exists, allegedly. Polygnotus (talk) 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I've heard rumours. :) No, I was being lazy, and saying I just couldn't be arsed, because a single source wouldn't be enough anyway. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:17, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

These rumors are all false and disgusting lies spread by the enemy! Ok. Polygnotus (talk) 17:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello @DoubleGrazing:,  

I have revised the "Media coverage" section by summarizing key points from reliable sources and citing them properly.  

Could you kindly review the draft again to see if it now meets the encyclopedic value and notability requirements?  

Thank you for your feedback and guidance.

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The 'Media coverage' section is pretty pointless. It only lists media outlets where this orchestra has been featured – what encyclopaedic value does that bring? It is then left to the reader to visit each link individually to see what if anything is said there. If you wish to give the reader an idea of what reviewers etc. have said, please quote their salient points and cite each source against the quotation. That could also help establish this orchestra's notability, which in the light of the currently cited sources is at best borderline. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:28, 25 July 2025 (UTC) Nanasarna.pers (talk) 00:56, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

@Nanasarna.pers: I don't do on-demand reviews, sorry. But I can see that you have resubmitted the draft, so it will be reviewed in due course once a reviewer gets around to it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

I see you just rejected this user's latest draft article. Note also that their other article is also up for AfD and it looks overwhelmingly like it will be deleted. When you look at the edit history for both, and especially at the style of editing, the complete ignorance of (or refusal to accept/comply with) process, and the almost total lack of edit summaries, I think we have an editor whose competence to edit Wikipedia and build an enyclopaedia has to be seriously called into question. I don't whether this needs ANI, but is there a way to stop an editor creating articles / draft article and limit them to just editing extant stuff? So far it's been a huge waste of multiple contributors' time. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:58, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

I see you just blocked the IP. It's very likely sockpuppetry. I hear very very loud duck quacking that just reinforces my point above. 10mmsocket (talk) 07:49, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the IP is this user logged-out, but who are you saying is whose sock? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:22, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

I suppose editing while logged out isn't sockpuppetry as such, unless it's done deliberately. On reflection I suspect it isn't, rather it's more of the same incompetence. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:25, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

If not an outright block, then I do think you should consider a topic ban on the draft article. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:30, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

I think we're dealing with a young individual going through a Wikipedia learning curve and clearly getting somewhat frustrated by not getting their way. I don't want to be too heavy-handed, they are making mistakes but hopefully will start to learn from them. Admittedly, I'm not particularly optimistic, based on their progress so far, but I don't think it's (yet) beyond rescue, either. I'd say let's give them more time, but if you feel otherwise, you can always take them to AN/I (not saying you should, only that it's an option). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:42, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

I see he is not learning anything. Today he moved a his sandbox directly into article space without anyone reviewing it. Of course it was deleted, but that involved people having to clean up after him. Wikipedia is not a nursery for children. 10mmsocket (talk) 17:27, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

I saw that you deleted this page per WP:G7, but I can't see a circumstance where doing so makes sense. It's a very straightforward list of the two people in Wikipedia sharing the surname. BD2412 T 03:26, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

I can't remember what, if anything, I was thinking, but as it was being requested by the user who had only recently created it, I guess I figured if they want it gone then where's the harm? (Why they've now decided they want it undeleted, I've no idea.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:45, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help! I've unblocked myself — I wanted to see if "unblockself" worked on PBLOCKs — so everything is now resolved. Now please don't take me to ARBCOM for unblocking myself :-) Nyttend (talk) 10:36, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Nyttend: big mistake, pal! I've been waiting for years for an excuse to drag you in front of ArbCom, and now you've handed it to me on a platter... cheers! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello @DoubleGrazing! Just wanted to follow on from the questions I was asking about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sanjib_Bhattacharjee.

I've added a few more references - please let me know if this improves the notability of Mr Bhattacharjee:

• Tripura Bhabishyat (2 August 2025) – A Bengali-language feature titled “Honoured in the Country, Son of the Soil of Assam”, detailing Bhattacharjee’s grassroots activism, UK-based reforms, and educational philosophy.
• Headlines(August 2025) – A digital article highlighting his British Empire Medal and cross-cultural contributions to road safety education, training, and community service.
• NRI Today – A profile titled “Sanjib Bhattacharjee BEM: Transforming Driver Education”, which contextualises his campaigns within the global NRI (non resident Indian) community and outlines his structured reforms in both India and the UK.

I’d also like to clarify that the Statesman article is an interview, yes, but it also shows the journalist explicitly stating that Bhattacharjee’s campaign is “gaining traction in India”, with outreach expanding state by state. Additionally, The Statesman is known for profiling individuals with demonstrable public impact, and their decision to feature Bhattacharjee suggests notability in itself (I believe).

Overall I do think Mr Bhattacharjee meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria through multiple independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of his public service and road safety advocacy. He is the recipient of the British Empire Medal (BEM), awarded by His Majesty The King for services to community safety in London. This recognition is covered in full-length articles by The Pioneer, Assam Tribune, Road Safety GB, Intelligent Instructor, and DIA, which detail his campaigns, training programs, and civic impact.

These sources are editorially controlled, fact-checked, and unaffiliated with the subject. No interviews, self-authored content, or promotional material are used to establish notability. Each article discusses multiple aspects of Bhattacharjee’s work, including his leadership in eco-safe driving, mentoring of instructors, and cross-cultural outreach in the UK and India. The subject is notable not just for receiving an honour, but for sustained national and international impact in public safety and education.

Appreciate your time reviewing this — happy to make further refinements if needed before submitting 😊

Thanks!! Flyhigh223! (talk) 15:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Flyhigh223!: I've had no real involvement with this draft, and don't wish to start now that it has already been rejected. If you believe evidence of notability is now available which wasn't considered earlier, you should appeal directly to the rejecting reviewer and/or, given that you resubmitted this after the rejection, possibly to the most recent reviewer. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

That's fine, thank you so much either way 😊 Flyhigh223! (talk) 19:08, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

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Which word or thing should i replace

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You recently reviewed Draft:Crowley High School (Louisiana) after an editor accidentally deleted information. Would you mind doing the review again a second time? The Knowledge Pirate (talk) 06:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello DoubleGrazing, thank you for the quick review of my Draft:Believe in People! I'm usually writing for the German Wikipedia trying to get around the different rules in the different language versions. Am I right in my understanding, that there is no media independent criteria for relevancy? So as authors, we are reliant on media outlets to report? For me, that's interesting because the German rules are complicated as hell, but have specific rules for different areas. Nonprofits with a certain power (by members, employees or assets) are worth writing about, of course only if there is enough quality information (first and secondhand). How does WP:EN handles issues, where media for different reasons is not reporting? In case of Believe in People I myself don't understand why there is no coverage of this enormous donation. I could only find one other source with a philanthropic journal. Best NGOgo (talk) 19:59, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi @NGOgo,

Here on en.wiki, the rules are (per WP:ORGSIG) that every single organisation, without exception, has to satisfy the WP:ORG notability standard (which is essentially the same as the WP:NCORP one, and they're both somewhat stricter variants of the basic WP:GNG one). This is regardless of whether the organisation is big or small, old or new, global or local in scope, profit or non-profit, public or private or third sector, etc. The ORG standard requires significant coverage (not just passing mentions), directly of the subject (not of indirectly related matters), in multiple (= 3+) secondary sources that are reliable and entirely independent of the subject and of each other. The independence requirements means that anything originating with the subject or sources associated with it are excluded; this means eg. interviews and anything where someone related to the subject is commenting on things, press releases and content based on them, routine business reporting (financial results, appointments, new products/markets/locations/partners, M&A, etc.), as well as any sponsored content (advertorials, churnalism, commissioned content, etc.).

If you cannot find sufficient sources to meet ORG, then it is quite likely that this organisation isn't notable enough to justify an article. That's not just because they don't pass the notability rule, it's also, and much more to the point, because there aren't then sufficient sources to base an article on. Wikipedia articles should be primarily (and in the case of companies and other organisations, almost exclusively) written by summarising what independent and reliable sources have previously published. If such sources don't exist, they cannot be summarised, and hence a Wikipedia article cannot be written.

Probably also worth mentioning that for organisations, notability is very much the exception, not the default position: the vast majority of organisations are not notable, and if that turns out to be the case with this organisation, then that is not in any way unusual.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:22, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello. I have tried to add more references and depth in Draft:Katie Lynch (nursery manager); this is my first attempt to create an article. I can say that nursery professionals receive very minimal recognition in general. A British Empire Medal (BEM) is something unique, that may be enough to pass Wikipedia:Notability (people). I believe I made a thorough research, and I cannot find anything more to add as independent sources, beyond primary information. I don't know what other publications, apart from local ones, can discuss nursery managers, and how such professionals can validate notability. For me, the BEM national recognition, combined with local publications about herself and the nursery (mentions, presentations), is enough; however, let me know since I gain experience to understand how to make articles. For example, in Draft:Rebecca Jensen-Clem that I also made, it is much easier to validate notability with sources because of the field (astronomy). That may be discriminatory against specific fields. I don't know, these are some of my thoughts, because I try to understand how Wikipedia:Notability (people) is justified in lesser-known fields, like childcare services. I cannot add anything else for Katie Lynch, especially from national publications, it's all I found after a thorough research and I thought is enough. Please let me know your thoughts, thank you! Chiserc (talk) 10:30, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Chiserc,

Yes, I'm sure you're right, in that people in the nursery (as well as primary and secondary education more widely) are under-represented in Wikipedia. I don't believe that is due to discrimination, as such, it's just that our definition of notability, which is a core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia, is based on coverage in secondary sources, and people in many fields simply do not get that sort of coverage. This isn't unique to the early years education sector, it also applies to many others, such as medical and healthcare staff, local politicians, campaigners and charity workers, and many other besides.

I don't believe the BEM is significant enough an award to satisfy the WP:ANYBIO #1 requirement. It is given to hundreds of recipients each year, and I fail to see how they would all be automatically notable simply by virtue of receipt of this medal. That's just my opinion, though, I don't think there is a policy or guideline on that, so if you wish to pursue this further you're certainly welcome to do so.

As I said in my comments when declining the draft, I would be very surprised if this person turned out to be notable enough to warrant an article, but I'm more than happy to be proven wrong on that. That wouldn't be in any way unusual, of course; after all, the vast majority of people are not notable.

Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:39, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for the review! There are 2 BBC articles, one from local publication (Leicestershire Live), and 2-3 nursery magazines specifically for this person and her nursery as main focus, beyond simple mentions or comments on childcare. I have to say that if the definition of notability for people is so strict, then I don't think that the article will ever pass such requirements. So, I will abandon this draft, you can also delete it or I may do it.

Because, in the past, I was involved more in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, I have to say that numerous articles with much less notability were finally survived deletion, and actually quite easily even with the smallest hint of notability. It is weird how Wikipedia works differently in creation and deletion of articles. I hope I will gain some experience to understand more on that. Thanks again @DoubleGrazing! Chiserc (talk) 18:36, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Chiserc: in a way, there is a difference between AfC and AfD in what comes to notability. At AfC we try to ensure that drafts are accepted if they have better than 50:50 chance of surviving a hypothetical AfD discussion. The burden of proof is with the draft author, to show that the subject is notable enough for the draft to be accepted. Whereas if an article is taken to AfD, the burden of proof is on proponent to convince others that the article should not be kept. Inertia is a powerful force, and sometimes articles are kept which should be deleted, simply because there isn't sufficient motivation to change status quo.

Also worth noting that our notability standards have increased over time. In the early days of Wikipedia, there was a 'land grab' situation, when articles were created, sometime with very shoddy standards, just to reach critical mass. A lot of these legacy articles still exist among the 7m+ in the English Wikipedia, which often causes editors to ask why their draft isn't accepted when something even worse already exists. But the current thinking is that we must now prioritise quality over quantity in what comes to notability as well as verifiability (I don't know if it was ever expressed in quite so many words, but that's what it boils down to), and that's why a draft isn't accepted today which probably would have been ten or twenty years ago. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:59, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

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I believe they all should be blocked indefinitely, and here is the final straw: Benerbener added unreferenced death dates to 5 biographies: Not a single source for anything. Also the claims were not even credible: an Olympic cyclist dying at age 48 from lung cancer? None of the Olympians' alleged deaths are verified by Olympedia, the death of the Norwegian person was not verified by a Norwegian search (I am Norwegian myself), etc. Benerbener also wrote that he died "in [[Ramsvik, Vestland]]" which was itself a hoax article. I see no hope whatsoever here. The answers in Eterin's user talk did not do anything to rectify the matter, on the other hand they admitted to being meatpuppets. Keeping them around for any longer would be disastrous to Wikipedia, their vandalism presents itself as factual and is really sneaky. I checked out the alleged reference "Dawny spór. Legenda o Zychym i Wisie" which they have added to Zychy and Wisy. According to Google, this publication does not exist. Geschichte (talk) 20:06, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

You have already discovered this member of the bunch, and I also wonder why someone makes a (blank) user page for someone else. Geschichte (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Geschichte,

Yes, I've been going through their edits since I came across your G3 noms. In hindsight, I should have probably blocked them on the spot, and not tried to engage. Alas, I did engage, and now I feel (rightly or wrongly) that I can't really block them, unless and until they do something else wrong. The hoaxes and other problems have been, or are being, dealt with, and they've sort of promised (well, Eterin has) to get their act together, so I guess I should give them the chance to prove that.

I am keeping an eye on them, and as far as I'm concerned they are exactly one wrong move away from being blocked, the lot of them. If you spot anything, do please let me know.

Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:35, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

DFO not know. (faces camera) DFO only pawn in game of life. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:57, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

At least you're a pawn. I mostly feel like I'm a draughts piece in a game of chess. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:19, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I need to know more why my page is deleted whereby its in a draft? Need assistance as a new volunteer here. ResearchHaven (talk) 08:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@ResearchHaven: I deleted it, because it was clearly made using LLM. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:45, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

I was using chatgpt to help me write in a better flow. How can I fix it? ResearchHaven (talk) 08:47, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@ResearchHaven: you need to write it yourself, in your own words. And you need to base it on actual sources, not fake ones like what ChatGPT gave you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:54, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

okay, what can I do now? ResearchHaven (talk) 09:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@ResearchHaven: the process for using sources to create article content is outlined at WP:GOLDENRULE. The notability guideline your draft needs to satisfy is WP:NCORP. Study both carefully, and then start by researching sources.

I still believe you have a relationship of some sort with this business, in which case you need to disclose that. See WP:PAID for more on this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:31, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm not so sure if I should reply to you or 331dot. But I am not associate with this company. I have deleted the image as well. This company is same country as me and they recently did a big giveaway https://www.malaymail.com/news/life/2025/08/16/how-a-youth-who-cant-even-drive-yet-won-a-rm180000-byd-seal-in-the-bjak-mega-giveaway-2025/187811. I want to start doing a wiki page and thought to start with them since they have more information and well-known in my country. having my name at the bottom of the article will be my satisfaction. So, now how can I move forward with my new article regarding this company? ResearchHaven (talk) 09:37, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@ResearchHaven: my advice would be to find a different topic to edit about. This one has been attempted so many times by undisclosed paid editors and sockpuppets, that I wouldn't go anywhere near it, if I were you.

But if you insist, that's your call of course. I've already given you the advice you need to prepare a draft. I don't know what else I can tell you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello DoubleGrazing, Thank you for your clarification. I am not being paid for any of my contributions and have no personal or professional relationship with Ms. Mitkutė. I created this article because there was no page about her on Wikipedia, she is only mentioned in the article about Vinted, and I wanted to provide verifiable, reliable information about her career as an entrepreneur. MultiLingVoice (talk) 09:16, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@MultiLingVoice: it would be much better if you replied on your own talk page, because anyone wanting to look into this question will be doing so on your user page / user talk page, not mine.

You say on your user page "When I notice that a subject does not yet have a Wikipedia article, I often create one." Yet you have not created any other articles. Fully 100% of your edits on English Wikipedia are about Ms Mitkute, as are half of your edits on the Spanish one. You appear to know things like her DOB, but are unable to cite a reliable source for that – so if the information doesn't come from a published source, where does it come from?

I have another question, possibly related, possibly not: is this your first time editing Wikipedia, or have you had other user accounts before? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:21, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

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sksatsuma 09:25, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I recommend you to take a look at these two diffs, both users are making the same request. Kajmer05 (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2025 (UTC)