User talk:Explicit/Archive 30
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Restore Farida Bedwei
Hello,
Thanks for deleting Farida Bedwei based on WP:Notability. Too bad I wasn't around in time to contest. In the Ghanaain context this is a notable individual individual. What was the basis / reference used to determine this articles notability from your side? A quick search should tell you about this person CNN cc @Reddogsix:. Can this article be restored. Thanks. →Enock4seth (talk) 10:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Enock4seth:
Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. Please note that any article proposed for deletion usually gets deleted after a grace period of seven days if uncontested. For further information regarding it being nominated to begin with, you should contact the user who tagged the page directly. ℯxplicit 23:32, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Restore File:Sher-e-Punjab Maharaja Ranjit Singh.jpg
Hello, this is to tell you that you had deleted File:Sher-e-Punjab Maharaja Ranjit Singh.jpg as the article Sher-e-Punjab: Maharaja Ranjit Singh was deleted on which the image was used. Now the article has been created. So I request you to restore the image so that it can be again used. Mr. Smart LION 09:02, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr. Smart LION:
Done, file restored. ℯxplicit 09:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
File:Scout Club of Hainan.png
There was no posting for discussion of this file before it was deleted, as there had been with others. Request that it be restored to at least allow time for defense of it.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:28, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Kintetsubuffalo: The file was tagged with {{Di-fails NFCC}}; nominations at WP:FFD are not required. Are you asking for it to be discussed there solely for bureaucracy's sake? ℯxplicit 04:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- I don't have all of the hundreds of Scout images on my watchlist, nor does anyone in our WikiProject. As per "nominations at WP:FFD are not required", no, but as there is an existing WikiProject for Scouting which takes an interest in such things, and does try to defend them when they can be defended, a nomination or a notice would have been polite, just as when one AFDs an article, let the original author know. One recent posted image was actually saved by an editor who knew how to fix the problem, save the image and improve the article, all because it had been posted for discussion. As per "Are you asking for it to be discussed there solely for bureaucracy's sake?", I have never been curt or abrasive to you, to my knowledge, and I don't appreciate being bitten. A quick look at my userpage/talkpage/edit history shows I disdain mindless rulebound bureaucracy (and bureaucrats) in all forms. In short, no I'm not. What I _am_ asking is for you to take an extra minute to post so that interested communities can see that image might not pass muster.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:43, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Kintetsubuffalo: My comment was not made as an attack, it was a simple question. I do recall logos used in a similar fashion were discussed at FFD in the past. If I remember correctly, most didn't pan out well for the "keep" arguments. This is why I asked if you were requesting for the file to be restored based on the previous logos. File:Scout Club of Hainan.png was used in Scouting and Guiding in mainland China. This is the logo of a different organization, which is not justified by WP:NFCC. Your re-addition of File:Scout Association of the People's Republic of China.svg to the article here, which was subsequently nominated at FFD, appears to show your disregard to policy. I would be surprised if, at the previous FFD discussions, it was not clarified that simply adding a fair use rationale for a use of an article is not enough to justify the use a file in that article. I am simply not seeing a valid policy-based argument to have this file restored other than citing past FFD of similar images, which resulted in exactly the same outcome as this one. ℯxplicit 23:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- I don't have all of the hundreds of Scout images on my watchlist, nor does anyone in our WikiProject. As per "nominations at WP:FFD are not required", no, but as there is an existing WikiProject for Scouting which takes an interest in such things, and does try to defend them when they can be defended, a nomination or a notice would have been polite, just as when one AFDs an article, let the original author know. One recent posted image was actually saved by an editor who knew how to fix the problem, save the image and improve the article, all because it had been posted for discussion. As per "Are you asking for it to be discussed there solely for bureaucracy's sake?", I have never been curt or abrasive to you, to my knowledge, and I don't appreciate being bitten. A quick look at my userpage/talkpage/edit history shows I disdain mindless rulebound bureaucracy (and bureaucrats) in all forms. In short, no I'm not. What I _am_ asking is for you to take an extra minute to post so that interested communities can see that image might not pass muster.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:43, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- As I said, I'm not the only one with an interest in these images. My views/justification aside, it's not just me watching and fixing these things. See I'm not going to keep parleying about this with you, I'm asking you to spend an extra minute when you do these things, because it's not just that-poor-sod-who-honestly-doesn't-give-a-****-abut-policy-so-I-can-delete-without-notice. You're right. I personally couldn't care less about WP:NFCC. I think there are far more important issues to be worried about, and frankly I know some users get a sick thrill deleting other editors' work. But other editors do care about the images, which is why I am asking you. "most didn't pan out well" isn't a reason not to inform others. I occasionally see an article worth AFDing, if some "didn't pan out well", it doesn't stop me from informing interested editors. There are rules and there are ethics, and growing up in a police family, I learned most times they have very little in common. I believe you to be an ethical person from our past dealings, and I think this sneaky Pete style of deletion without publicly informing the interested WikiProject is beneath you and something I hope you will reconsider in future.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Sherif Gaber and Megan Phelps-Roper photos
Hello Explicit,
Recently you deleted this picture of Sherif Gaber because there supposedly was a free equivalent (NFCC #1). Where can I find and upload this free equivalent then? Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:56, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Same question for Megan Phelps-Roper. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw: Hi, WP:NFCC#1 does not require for a free equivalent to exist at the moment, but that it can be created. As both subjects are still living individuals, that possibility still exists, which is why the two images were deleted. ℯxplicit 23:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, I did not know that. Thank you. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Refund request
Please restore File:Do17z 20mm.jpg
Hello ℯxplicit @Explicit:, please undo the deletion of the file File:Do17z 20mm.jpg so I can change the image and its status. The purpose of the image is the show a very rare image of the cannon mounted, and I challenge you to find a replacement for that. I wish to change the entry. Regards. Flightsoffancy (talk) 17:18, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: Please see WP:FREER. There are already several freely licensed images of the aircraft. The inclusion of a non-free image of the same aircraft simply showing a mounted cannon runs afoul of WP:NFCC#1. ℯxplicit 23:45, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- ℯxplicit @Explicit: I have said many, many times I am changing that. Besides that, there is no free version image subject. In the attack on RAF Kenly, cannon armed 17's where used, but sources conflict on this. Here is photo proof of this, supporting some sources (not all published historical sources are accurate). Flightsoffancy (talk) 04:49, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- ℯxplicit @Explicit: Please restore image so I can make the needed changes to it. Thank you Flightsoffancy (talk) 15:33, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: Overwriting a non-free image for another non-free file would not address the issue. If sources have incorrectly identified the cannon used, this can be mentioned in the article's text. As mentioned above, WP:FREER states this directly. ℯxplicit 23:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- ℯxplicit @Explicit: I am changing the status of image, because I can. Anyone read my posts? Flightsoffancy (talk) 17:06, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: By changing the status, do you mean changing it to a free license? If you have found a photo under the public domain that is different from this one, it is best uploaded separately instead of overwriting the file. ℯxplicit 23:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Explicit: At the very least the image is over 70 years old (was not when I first posted), and is digitized and manipulated thus not a direct copy of original. It is also from a wartime propaganda film which may not have copyright (and again over 70 years since defeat of Nazi's). This will be the same frame from film, but much better quality. Flightsoffancy (talk) 04:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: By changing the status, do you mean changing it to a free license? If you have found a photo under the public domain that is different from this one, it is best uploaded separately instead of overwriting the file. ℯxplicit 23:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- ℯxplicit @Explicit: I am changing the status of image, because I can. Anyone read my posts? Flightsoffancy (talk) 17:06, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: Overwriting a non-free image for another non-free file would not address the issue. If sources have incorrectly identified the cannon used, this can be mentioned in the article's text. As mentioned above, WP:FREER states this directly. ℯxplicit 23:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
@Flightsoffancy: Feel free to upload the image. Restoring File:Do17z 20mm.jpg for this purpose would make no sense, as it would just require {{Split media}} and lead the restored content to be re-deleted. ℯxplicit 02:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Explicit: This will not be a "multiple independent media files", it is the same image with new edits for quality, so related and dependent. Flightsoffancy (talk) 16:15, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: Very well, the file has been restored. Please update the description page by adding {{Information}} and the appropriate public domain license. ℯxplicit 06:55, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. Was a lot of work making the needed changes, hope I addressed all issues. Flightsoffancy (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: Very well, the file has been restored. Please update the description page by adding {{Information}} and the appropriate public domain license. ℯxplicit 06:55, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
We Can't Study (manga)
Hello. I noted that you deleted this article several months ago as an expired PROD, also adding to the fact that it didn't seem to be notable enough at the time. In any case, it was recently announced that the series may soon be getting an anime adaptation, based on a number of reports. Based on this, perhaps it's okay with you if you restore the article either to the mainspace or to draftspace so that it can be worked on again? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:
Done, I have moved the content to Draft:We Can't Study (manga). It is quite skeletal in its current form... ℯxplicit 23:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Refund
Matty Brooks
Would you consider...
You deleted the article on the Pakistan Times, as an expired prod.
Since then someone drafted a new article.
Would you consider grafting the earlier revisions to the current article's history? I am curious as to who placed that prod.
Pequeno português
Hi Explicit, you deleted a page that I PRODDED, thanks. It just occurred to me that I assembled quite a few good sources in my argumentation for deletion on the talkpage and I am wondering if you would be able to rescue the discussion and get it to me either by email or on my talkpage. I would really appreciate it and do apologise for the inconvenience. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 00:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Rui Gabriel Correia: Hi, I have instead restored the talk page and tagged it with {{G8-exempt}}. ℯxplicit 01:53, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thnaks, Explicit. Really appreciated. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 02:01, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Jinfonet page
Hi there, it seems our page Jinfonet was deleted. We are a software company that provides data analytics software called JReport. I have been maintaining the page mainly for updates on new versions and any messaging changes for the past few years. Could you explain to me why our page was deleted? Thanks, -Dean Yao dyao@jinfonet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deayao (talk • contribs) 22:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Deayao: Hi, Jinfonet was proposed for deletion by another editor with the following concern: "Unable to find anything resembling the independent analysis and sourcing needed for WP:NCORP". It went uncontested for seven days and was deleted as a result. You are highly encouraged to read the aforementioned notability guideline for organizations and companies, as well as the general notability guideline to understand what constitutes "notable" on Wikipedia. I would also like to point you to the conflict of interest page, as you are directly associated with the company. ℯxplicit 23:50, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
your assistance please...
You deleted File:Guantanamo captives leaving after their debriefing by Afghan security officials on 2003-03-25.jpg, as F4.
I was kind of busy at the time, and it looks like I was not able to give this challenge the attention it deserved.
Could you see your way clear to supply me with the contents of the {{information}} template, or reasonable equivalent, I supplied for this image?
Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 01:31, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- File:Badr Mohammed Nasser al-Shihri.jpg too, if it is not too much trouble... Geo Swan (talk) 01:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
The content on the description page of File:Guantanamo captives leaving after their debriefing by Afghan security officials on 2003-03-25.jpg can be found here. This link will expire in 24 hours.
File:Badr Mohammed Nasser al-Shihri.jpg was simply deleted as orphaned. The article link provided was for Badr Mohammed Nasser al-Shihri, which doesn't exist. This one can simply be restored if it will be used on the article about the subject. ℯxplicit 01:40, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
File:Hail_to_the_Sunrise.jpg
I saw that you deleted my picture, and I'm wondering how to restore it and correct the fair use stuff. Because, like I said, it is a picture I took myself pretty much specifically for posting on Wikipedia, which as far as I know meets the guideline other than me not using the exact wording you wanted. Please let me know how to fix this. ToddC4176 (talk) 01:27, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- @ToddC4176: Hi, can you specify which file you're referring to? File:Hail to the Sunrise.jpg has never existed on Wikipedia. ℯxplicit 00:06, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Explicit: That link is the direct link you posted on my page, copied straight over. So I'm not sure how it can't exist if you had to delete it for lack of documentation.... ToddC4176 (talk) 23:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- @ToddC4176: Ah, I see it now. The correct link, which was added to your talk page by a bot, is File:Hail To The Sunrise Statue.JPG. I have restored the file, please add an appropriate fair use rationale. ℯxplicit 03:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
File talk:University of Dayton Research Institute logo.png
Is there a reason for deletion here that I'm missing? Assuming it's the same file, seems pretty PD-text-logo to me. GMGtalk 14:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- @GreenMeansGo: The logo is different, but you're right in that it is {{PD-textlogo}}. I have transferred the image to Commons at File:University of Dayton Research Institute old logo.png. ℯxplicit 03:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
File:Do17z 20mm.jpg under Dispute resolution
Hello @Explicit:. Well, there is a dispute by editor who does not like the image despite sound rational for it. I have called for discussion with other editors and opened a DR, you can see it here. Talk:Dornier Do_17#Restoration_of_File_talk:Do17z_20mm.jpg. I expect the judgement will go my way, but will the moderatos see the image? Cheers, Flightsoffancy (talk) 02:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC) Good morning @Explicit:. Other editors cannot see image, can you please undo deletion for the review? Sorry for bother. Flightsoffancy (talk) 13:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi Flightsoffancyfancy. Just a general comment in that it would be better to provide a link to the source url (if one exists) for the file instead where others can see the it. If the file was deleted per F5, then it will only continue to be flagged for deletion for the same reason as long as it’s not being used in any articles. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Hello Marchjuly, there is on-line source for the image or anything like it, otherwise this would not be an issue. BilCat never produce an image with the same subject despite my repeated requests. Had he, I would have dropped the matter. I might as well just create a new upload of the same file on Wiki, and then start another round of discussions where once again BilCat will fail in producing an substitute image. @Explicit: please undo delete so editors can view and approve. Thank you. Flightsoffancy (talk) 14:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Images without sources
As you do a LOT of image work:-
Some queries that need their results set reducing to zero :
https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/29813 https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/29748
Most are probably upgradeable by adding {{information}} blocks, and if the licensing is okay they should be placed on Commons.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Canowindra-2804-postmark.jpg
Apparently you deleted this image. What could have been the issue. If you had an issue why not raise it with me on my Talk page? 23:38, 22 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silent Billy (talk • contribs)
- (talk page watcher) There is a notice on your talk page about the problem: § File source problem with File:Canowindra-2804-postmark.jpg — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:03, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Silent Billy: Hi, you uploaded File:Canowindra-2804-postmark.jpg and tagged it with {{cc-by-sa-4.0}}, but did not provide any evidence that supported this license. It was accordingly tagged—you were notified as noted above—and deleted under F4 for lacking a source. ℯxplicit 00:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- what does file source mean? It was a photo I took of the post mark the local Post Shop rubber stamps on postal articles submitted over the counter. It was a defence against the officious twats who query the statement that the town is dubbed the "Balloon Capital of Australia". Silent Billy (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Silent Billy: Ah, that better explains it. You did not indicate you took the photo. I have restored the image, but there may be an additional issue, which I've made note of on the file's description page. ℯxplicit 00:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll have a gander. Silent Billy (talk) 06:41, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Silent Billy: Ah, that better explains it. You did not indicate you took the photo. I have restored the image, but there may be an additional issue, which I've made note of on the file's description page. ℯxplicit 00:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- what does file source mean? It was a photo I took of the post mark the local Post Shop rubber stamps on postal articles submitted over the counter. It was a defence against the officious twats who query the statement that the town is dubbed the "Balloon Capital of Australia". Silent Billy (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Silent Billy: Hi, you uploaded File:Canowindra-2804-postmark.jpg and tagged it with {{cc-by-sa-4.0}}, but did not provide any evidence that supported this license. It was accordingly tagged—you were notified as noted above—and deleted under F4 for lacking a source. ℯxplicit 00:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Question
Is this license okay for Wikipedia? "This photo is free to use for research and academic purposes; please contact ACOR for non-watermarked images. Commercial use is granted on a case by case basis.". Photos that deals with Arabian archaeological heritage -under creative commons- are relatively scarce, so ACOR online library would be of great importance in that field for future editors, however I am not sure if it is eligible to use in this platform or not. Nabataeus (talk) 14:17, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Nabataeus: Creative Commons licenses must allow commercial use and derivative works. A "case by case" basis for the former is rather vague, and it doesn't mention derivative works at all. It may be worth contacting the organization for clarification on the matter, or if it is willing to offer its images under a more flexible, specific license. ℯxplicit 05:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yes indeed, a case by case basis is vague. However, since its use is permitted in non-commercial, speculatively, non-derivative manner, isn't it okay to use it under fair use? (it doesn't need to be, but merely to discourage prohibited usage). Therefore there are really no legal consequences. Nabataeus (talk) 21:39, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
CFD
Would you want to close a number of (old) CFD discussions again? The backlog has increased quite a bit in the past weeks. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
About the "PC Jeweller logo"
Hello,
You deleted File:PC Jeweller logo.jpg on 23 September 2018 (because it was an unused non-free media files for more than 7 days). But it was unused due to a vandalism on the article PC Jeweller on 12 September 2018.
I have canceled the vandalism so is it possible, for you, to restore the file?
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 17:00, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoScribe:
Done, file restored. ℯxplicit 23:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
File:Deji olatunji.png
Hi Explicit. You already deleted this once before per WP:F7, but the uploader re-uploaded it again. I’m not sure whether they understand why the it was deleted before, but it’s basically the same issue as before. — Marchjuly (talk) 07:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Well, there isn't much to do at the moment unless that user attempts a third upload after the file is deleted. Not quite sure where they expect to use the image, since Deji Olatunji has been deleted an incredible amount of times and was salted six months ago. ℯxplicit 23:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a look. The uploader is currently working on a user space draft at User:MikeyScott01/sandbox/Deji Olatunji and seems to want to use the image there, but that wouldn't be allowed per NFCC#9 even if NFCC#1 wasn't an issue. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:38, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Please restore File:Do17z 20mm.jpg
Hello ℯxplicit @Explicit:, please undo deletion of File:Do17z 20mm.jpg so I can resolve dispute with image. This will be more straight forward procedure to resolve issue. Thank you. Flightsoffancy (talk) 19:25, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: I really do think it's time to drop the stick. Two separate administrator have declined to restore the image and there has been opposition of the image's inclusion from at least two other editors. Your constant forum shopping does not help matters. ℯxplicit 00:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good morning Korea! Dear @Explicit:, only one editor is opposed to the image, and his arguments are weak at best. Other editors have agreed the image has merit, but BilCat removes the image as soon as I restore. I am being diplomatic about this and using proper channels, but being a volunteer system persons who do the reviews did not see it before the image was deleted, thus complaint closed without even looking at it! So, nothing has been settled, this issue is unresolved, the process still moves forward. Regards. Flightsoffancy (talk) 17:50, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: As I mentioned in the section above, this image resoundingly fails to abide by WP:NFCC, specifically what is outlined at WP:FREER. I will not restore the file. ℯxplicit 05:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Explicit: with all due respect, it was indeed accepted by a wiki copyright reviewer under "No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." section 1 of that referred to section. I swear to you had he denied it, I would NOT be pursing this.
- For example a second variant of image showing the entire piece of film (with holes and audio strip) was posted in Film stock and in that case there was Free equivalents images, so I did not argue for its inclusion. In this case we have an editor who is actively removing the file simply because he does not like it. I am making case about his abuse, but image was "deleted" before issue was reviewed. Regards. Flightsoffancy (talk) 18:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: I haven't the slightest clue what "wiki copyright reviewer" refers to, as there is no such user group. You are also completely misrepresenting BilCat's removal of the image from the article, as he has also cited the WP:NFCC policy. I have been heavily involved in the application of the fair use policy on Wikipedia for well over a decade now, and I simply can not further elaborate on how this image violates policy to a T as I have done so in the most simplest terms. This "I can't hear you" approach is truly time-wasting at this point. ℯxplicit 02:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Dear @Explicit:, you did not acknowledge my efforts to resolve a dispute, I am just explaining the situation. As I have typed, I intend to have this unsettled dispute resolved one way or other, it would help all if the image was restored (it is needed for dispute resolution). This is nothing about "I can't hear you" approach as I do understand the concern of images WP:NFCC status. All best. Flightsoffancy (talk) 03:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Flightsoffancy: I haven't the slightest clue what "wiki copyright reviewer" refers to, as there is no such user group. You are also completely misrepresenting BilCat's removal of the image from the article, as he has also cited the WP:NFCC policy. I have been heavily involved in the application of the fair use policy on Wikipedia for well over a decade now, and I simply can not further elaborate on how this image violates policy to a T as I have done so in the most simplest terms. This "I can't hear you" approach is truly time-wasting at this point. ℯxplicit 02:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Explicit: with all due respect, it was indeed accepted by a wiki copyright reviewer under "No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." section 1 of that referred to section. I swear to you had he denied it, I would NOT be pursing this.
- @Flightsoffancy: As I mentioned in the section above, this image resoundingly fails to abide by WP:NFCC, specifically what is outlined at WP:FREER. I will not restore the file. ℯxplicit 05:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good morning Korea! Dear @Explicit:, only one editor is opposed to the image, and his arguments are weak at best. Other editors have agreed the image has merit, but BilCat removes the image as soon as I restore. I am being diplomatic about this and using proper channels, but being a volunteer system persons who do the reviews did not see it before the image was deleted, thus complaint closed without even looking at it! So, nothing has been settled, this issue is unresolved, the process still moves forward. Regards. Flightsoffancy (talk) 17:50, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Excuse me
I'm working....it's not finish.Đông Minh (talk) 04:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Đông Minh: The members of Black Pink are not notable outside of the group, so there should be no article for any of them at this time. ℯxplicit 04:28, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- so you will delete page Lisa and page Jennie mine ? right ? I'm their fan, I just think many fan wanna have a page about even them, many fan want to know about their family, their country, their personal information, include clear things all them. And that thing we can not put it in Black Pink page. If you think my page so simple or my english not good, that's other problem. Or: Black Pink page is your article, It's your created. right? Đông Minh (talk) 04:38, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- You are an administrators, but you do not explain clearly your reason why, and no answer when a man talks you.
Deserved Korean under rules of Great Japan empire. Deserved! Deserved! do not cry with world. Deserved ! And your nation should back under Japan rules again. Now I'm come to other wiki to write about them, follow me and show me how can you stop me ! DMM !Đông Minh (talk) 05:01, 30 September 2018 (UTC)- (talk page watcher) Hi Đông Minh. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for more information, but Wikipedia is not the right place for fan pages, etc. If want to create something like that, try something like Wikia instead. Finally, please try to keep your posts WP:CIVIL and avoid anything which might be interpreted as a personal attack against another editor. The best way to try and get an article written about these people is to show how they meet Wikipedia:Notability (people); otherwise, it's likely that any article written about them will end up being deleted. — Marchjuly (talk) 07:14, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- You are an administrators, but you do not explain clearly your reason why, and no answer when a man talks you.
- don't tell me about code of conduct. I was read 2 pages about 2 members of a music band on french wiki, es wiki, vi wiki... so why, why ? why english wiki can not create it. He talk a short answer and keeping silent when im talk him after that, an administrators not polite. Not clearly explain, and not keeping polite.
How can him become to an administrators. If he like do silent, Korean should silents like that, do not talk about: "Japanese empire crime, hu hu hu (cry)". They should be silent and stop lies in their history, that not real things".Đông Minh (talk) 08:01, 30 September 2018 (UTC)- Each language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines established by its respective WP:COMMUNITY; so, just because an article exists on one of more different Wikipedia doesn't mean it should exist on all Wikipedias. The policies and guidelines, particularly with respect to WP:N, of English Wikipedia tend to be much more strict than most other Wikipedias mainly because English Wikipedia has the most articles and the most editors, and in turn these policies and guidelines tend to be more rigorously applied than perhaps they are in some other Wikipedias. If you want Explicit to give more details as to why he redirected those articles, you need to be patient a give him a chance to respond. Administrators are WP:VOLUNTEERs and they also get WP:BUSY. However, if you'd rather continuing posting rants against Explicit, Korean people, or anyone else either here, your user page or any other Wikipedia page, then you're quickly going to find your behavior being discussed by a lot more editors at WP:ANI, which may lead to your account being blocked. While editing can occasionally be frustrating, that's no excuse for WP:BATTLEFIELD or WP:MASTADON type of behavior. — Marchjuly (talk) 10:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- don't tell me about code of conduct. I was read 2 pages about 2 members of a music band on french wiki, es wiki, vi wiki... so why, why ? why english wiki can not create it. He talk a short answer and keeping silent when im talk him after that, an administrators not polite. Not clearly explain, and not keeping polite.
@Đông Minh: To begin with, I am not ethnically Korean, I just live in Korea. Please see WP:MUSICBIO, particularly the final note in that section: Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Not a single member of Black Pink acquired notability outside of the band. This is the standard, and can be reflected in other articles like B.A.P where only two of the six members have an article, none of the members of Seventeen have their own article, and so on. What other editions of Wikipedias do is irrelevant here, as all project function independently from one another. ℯxplicit 23:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Oh. so I was wrong, how can I delete my bad worlds about KRN. How ? I want to tell you : My english not good and Im not through about Kpop article what could write what could not. Im love my band so i write about them. Im lost a hour to write and you just lost little second to deleted it. oh, how can I understand the meaning what you say with little words in short sentence. You leave and put a sign: now you busy, send you message. You not busy to delete, but busy to explain clearly. What's your name meaning ? i lost time to write and you tell me I will lost my time to waiting you like waiting a girl, right ? for what ? for you come back to explain me clearly. I respect administrators's work when an administrators delete any page not accordant, but never your way your type. Im think Marchjuly is an administrators, i like the way he explained me. He real administrators, never you. You should be demission your work an administrators. You not deserved, just only Marchjuly deserved administrators. good bye ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Đông Minh (talk • contribs) 01:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- I am not an administrator, but Exlplict is and has been an administrator in good standing for many years. If there was something you didn't understand about Explicit's first reply to you, then you could have civilly asked for clarification without trying to insult him or the Korean people. As I posted above, administrators sometimes get busy and might be unable to post extremely detailed reponses to every question they are asked; so, sometimes you just have to be patient and ask for further assistance when there's something you don't quite understand.Other editors are going to be willing to assume good faith and be understanding when it comes to your ability to communicate in English. They will most likely be willing to overlook most mistakes you may make; personal insults, however, are not going to be tolerated in any language, so you need to Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks as much as possible. My advice to you would be to stop making them here about Explicit before you things go too far and you find yourself blocked. Not only Explicit, but any administrator can immediately block your account without warning if they feel it's necessary to do so, and personal attacks are one of the things editors often get blocked for.Now, if you would like to take back some of the things you posted on this talk page to show your good faith and willingness to move on, the way to do so would be to follow the instructions in WP:REDACT and strikethrough the inappropriate comments. You can do this by using the code
<s>inappropriate comment</s>so that it looks likeinappropriate comment. This is the proper way to acknowledge that you might have posted something inappropriate in one of your previous talk page posts and want to take it back. Just make sure to leave an edit summary which explains why you're making the edit. As for the content on your userpage, you can just removed that completely if you want.Finally, it's possible that someday some of all of the these band members might become Wikipedia notable in their own right for a stand-alone article even though at the moment it is Wikipedia:Too soon for one to be written; you shouldn't, however, try to preserve copies of the articles on your user page because that's not really allowed per WP:FAKEARTICLE. What you should do instead in move the content either to a user subpage as a Help:Userspace draft or to the draft namespace as a Wikipedia:Drafts; this will allow you to keep working on improving the content and adding sources until you think your work is ready to be submitted for review. At that time, you can request a review per Wikipedia:Articles for creation. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- I am not an administrator, but Exlplict is and has been an administrator in good standing for many years. If there was something you didn't understand about Explicit's first reply to you, then you could have civilly asked for clarification without trying to insult him or the Korean people. As I posted above, administrators sometimes get busy and might be unable to post extremely detailed reponses to every question they are asked; so, sometimes you just have to be patient and ask for further assistance when there's something you don't quite understand.Other editors are going to be willing to assume good faith and be understanding when it comes to your ability to communicate in English. They will most likely be willing to overlook most mistakes you may make; personal insults, however, are not going to be tolerated in any language, so you need to Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks as much as possible. My advice to you would be to stop making them here about Explicit before you things go too far and you find yourself blocked. Not only Explicit, but any administrator can immediately block your account without warning if they feel it's necessary to do so, and personal attacks are one of the things editors often get blocked for.Now, if you would like to take back some of the things you posted on this talk page to show your good faith and willingness to move on, the way to do so would be to follow the instructions in WP:REDACT and strikethrough the inappropriate comments. You can do this by using the code
Alright Marchjuly! ....thank you for your guide. Explicit - i'll have to be patient. Sorry. Have good job you both ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Đông Minh (talk • contribs) 04:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
File:QEHnews autumn08.jpg
Hi, could you please undelete the above file? It was originally replaced at Queen Elizabeth's Hospital by File:QEH News Spring 2018.jpg, but this has now itself been deleted from Commons as lacking permission. If you undelete it I'll restore it to the article. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Deletion of another media image
Hi Explicit, I see that you deleted File:MMAlam-1965.jpg for having no source and there is another file by the same editor which has the same issues File:Gen Musa Khan at Khem Karan - 1965 War.jpg. Can you please have a look at it? Please let me know if you have further questions. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 21:52, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Checking backlinks after deletions
Hi, I noticed that you deleted the page Exsuperius Weston Turnor, but did not remove list entries pointing to it (, ). This is best practice as recommended at Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#Procedure_for_administrators.
Pardon me raising this if you normally do this but overlooked it on this occasion. – Fayenatic London 08:48, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
File:1987 God-is-overal ©Estate-Philippe-Vandenberg.jpg
Hi Explicit. This seems to be a reupload of something you deleted about a week ago per WP:F11. Uploader probably did so in good faith when they noticed the older version had been deleted, but they do not seem to understand that something more formal like an email to OTRS is needed for proper verification. — Marchjuly (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
File:Paul Harrop - host of AOPA Live.jpg
Hi. You deleted the subject file under WP:CSD#F11. I have alleged permission for it in Ticket:2018051210000827 in OTRS. Would you please undelete it temporarily so I may verify the permission? — Jeff G. ツ 01:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)