User talk:Ham II/Archive 2016

Hullo old friend! I've added the rest of the London public artworks designated Grade II/II* by Historic England in January. Sorry if I've messed up your formatting, feel free to rename them all as well! I'll try to add all their HE numbers later... Keep up your excellent work :) Gareth E. Kegg (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Cheers! Don't worry about the formatting! Ham II (talk) 21:55, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

When you replaced dashes on Encarta you ended up breaking a comment start. I reverted the change. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 13:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks – I've tried again and taken care not to break the beginning of the hidden comments. Ham II (talk) 18:28, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Quick facts architecture and public art ...

A year ago ...

architecture and public art
...you were recipient no. 1111 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

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 Done Ham II (talk) 11:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

This month:

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Want to nominate that again now? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 18:49, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, can you/Sionk find another 15 articles to make it 250 for architecture and another 5 for economy to make it 100? I still have a bit of history and politics to do, but trying to even up those figures now. I should be finished in the next day or two.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:22, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ham, I've now completed the core list. Go ahead now, hope I've left enough time for you to copy the list to Welsh wiki and you don't feel too rushed!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:39, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately Ham you've stopped communicating on this so I have no idea where we are. I have just added some ships to the transport section to balance it out a bit, hope that doesn't disrupt anything you've done. Is there a Welsh page up and running yet? I'd thought a few of the Welsh editors would have signed up by now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:07, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm sure you've not forgotten but the WP:Awaken the Dragon contest starts in 4 and a half hours time. I wish you the best of luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Cheers! And sorry for the radio silence so much of the time. The core list has already been very helpful to the Welsh Wikipedia, as will become clear when I get a chance to make the relevant additions to Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon#Creations/expansions prior to April 2016. Ham II (talk) 18:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

No worries, I'm glad you've responded now though haha! Thankyou for your patience with the core list. It was tough to compile, but should cover a lot of the basics now anyway! Thanks for the effort you've put into the other things too and getting two Welsh editors on board!. I'll try to keep adding more missing entries to the hotlist at the month progresses, I need to add a lot more missing biography dictionary articles. The List of Welsh women is looking good now though thanks largely to Ipigott!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's been taking up most of my time over the past two or three days but it will probably be worth it when it has been completed. There are probably lots of sports women still to be added.--Ipigott (talk) 19:59, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ham, I've added some detail and one or two sources to the article in question. Hope it was the sort of thing you were looking for. Thanks for the kind words regarding Rachel Barrett's article and another thank you for cleaning it earlier today. Regards FruitMonkey (talk) 19:50, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, can you try to get John Jones to answer to and I'll give him the points. The paragraphs do need sourcing for this contest.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:11, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

For this week I'm introducing a sort of game to blast away those stale old stubs with a prize at the end of it. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Stub Obliteration 2016. Expansion rules don't apply to any articles done through this, all you have to do is ensure every article you submit is minimum 1.5kb readable prose in total and adequately sourced and readable and remove the stub tag and update the project tag on the talk page. It could be that the article is 1.2kb readable prose and you simply add 0.3 kb prose and just quickly smarten up the sources and give a minor copyedit. The goal is reducing the number of stubs we have and making them more consistent, minimum start class entries. Read the top for the rules and more details and add your name to it in the style of the main entries page if you want to participate. It's open to contestants and anybody who is participating in the editathon independently. Potentially a lot of points can be earned from mass basic expansions with this!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:17, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, can you add Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff International Sports Stadium, Leckwith development and Ninian Park to the core list on Welsh wiki? Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:55, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld:  Done. Ham II (talk) 15:15, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. It's inevitable that we'll spot some ones which should have been on the list along the way. Better to add them than forget about them later!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

BTW if you have time to destub anything in Category:Wales railway station stubs by minimum 1kb prose by the end of the day you'll get 50 for each and get on the scoreboard! You've been very busy though with the gnoming work on Welsh wiki and here though! Thanks for all your help.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, this is running from Friday. Any extra bulk you can add to those missing lists between now and then would be a great help. I'll try to add more missing ones on the dictionary entries tomorow.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Four more missing ones for the Welsh core list ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld:  Done. I'll also add Twm Siôn Cati and Wales Office (NB a separate article from Welsh Office). Ham II (talk) 17:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, very worthy. Thanks for also the gnoming work you've been doing for this, it's not gone unnoticed. Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:52, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Cheers! A lot of the gnomework by me has been on Wikidata, linking all the new Grade I- and II*-listed WP articles to the existing WD items created for Wiki Loves Monuments 2013. I'm a great believer in joining the WM projects together! Ham II (talk) 09:09, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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Fixed. Ham II (talk) 10:16, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

If you read the announcement at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon, next weekend there will be a focus on diversity of content and a challenge to start an article for every county of Wales. For this we will need a fair missing list of articles by county of Wales, ones which we might most want started, so contestants can save time looking for things to start. I was wondering if you could help identify a dozen or so articles from each county which we want started as there's a good chance a lot of them will be created next weekend. A healthy range of content if possible, not just listed buildings, villages and train stations, a few biographies and anything else as well like roads or historical events. @Sionk:, @FruitMonkey:, @Tony Holkham:, @Robevans123:, can we work on a Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Missing articles by county list this week in preparation for this? Existing articles in the missing list can partly be used and reorganized by county.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:21, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

The Listed Building articles are generally already listed by county. Could we simply split the other lists by county, rather than duplicating on another project page? Sionk (talk) 17:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I have only just seen this, having been offline over the weekend. Tony Holkham (Talk) 20:21, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: By counties do we mean the current ones? I notice the red link at {{Awaken the Dragon}} for the "Preserved County Challenge", so I assume it's these? I've made a start on the list with castles. Ham II (talk) 05:39, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Cheers Ham. Sionk Yes, I suppose we could reorder the existing list by county. Actually the missing articles will be part of Wales in Red next weekend, but that is to kick off the Preserved County challenge for the week after it. Basically the same thing, cover each area of Wales, but that will be a destubbing one, with two preserved counties to tackle each day. So by the end of the competition we'll have tried to improve coverage across the whole country too.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:15, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

This month:

In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

• The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
• The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, three more added, can you add to the Welsh list? I think there should probably be more related to mythology on it but that's something anyway!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld:  Done. Good thinking! Ham II (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Cheers. There's still alot of missing notable ones from the list, fortunately this contest has a way of identifying some. The whole culture section could do with development I think and some subsections within, it's very broad.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:58, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi. I've altered the ruling for new creations so we might see some blue links later on Grade I and II* listed buildings. Are there still any missing Grade I buildings to add to Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Missing article hotlist? ideally there needs to be more Grade II* ones listed on there too for convenient starting by county.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Planning on runnng this without prizes on June 13-20. If you're interested in contributing put your name down at the bottom of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:10, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Nice. Diolch. Robevans123 (talk) 18:53, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

@Robevans123: Croeso! Ham II (talk) 19:19, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Check out this month's issue of the WikiProject X newsletter, featuring the first screenshot of our new CollaborationKit software!

Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Re: this diff, which I was disappointed to see: Of course I wish you the very best, but I hope you're not a total stranger around here. Regardless of your future editing, thanks for your many contributions to Wikipedia. :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:51, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh Ham! You're a brilliant editor! You've stitched together so much of the memorialized fabric of London, and bought so many people pleasure. Long may you contribute! Gareth E. Kegg (talk) 12:28, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi there. I've started a new initiative, the Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. It's a long term goal to bring about 10,000 article improvements to the UK and Ireland. Through two contests involving just six or seven weeks of editing so far we've produced over 1500 improvements. Long term if we have more people chipping it and adding articles they've edited independently as well from all areas of the UK then reaching that target is all possible. I think it would be an amazing achievement to see 10,000 articles improvements by editors chipping in. If you support this and think you might want to contribute towards this long term please sign up in the Contributors section. No obligations, just post work on anything you feel like whenever you want, though try to avoid basic stubs if possible as we're trying to reduce the overall stub count and improve general comprehension and quality. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I'm writing about Template:Long dash where you reverted my change… You mention that it shows up as a box rather than a dash. I suspect that you don't have any typefaces installed that include the long dash character. The correct way to fix this, in my opinion, is to use the actual Unicode character (since Wikipedia is Unicode-based) and to resolve the rendering issues by including it in whatever webfont Wikipedia uses and/or documenting what typefaces include it at Help:Special characters. The current "solution" isn't a dash — rather it's three dashes, with CSS used to try to make them overlap. There are a few problems with that way of doing it:

1. The rest of Wikipedia uses Unicode to display characters when possible.
2. Since it's not actually a dash, it will break when copied and pasted into other apps.
3. Searching for a real dash will not find it.
4. It displays and behaves incorrectly for users with standards-conformant browsers:

1. Attempting to delete, select, or use the arrow keys to skip over it will violate expected behaviour (to have it be indivisible), as it is not a single character.
2. In environments that do not use CSS (for example, when copied into a word processor) it will be glaringly obvious that it is not a dash.
3. Users with screen readers or plain-text browsers will get three one-em dashes, instead of one three-em dash.
4. The CSS hack is unreliable, and may appear differently to different browsers due to differences in the typeface being used (the ends of the three dashes don't always meet each other, turning it into a dashed line, and it is not guaranteed to actually be three ems wide).

—{{u|Goldenshimmer}}|✝️|ze/zer|😹|T/C|☮️|John15:12|🍂 17:43, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Just so you know, I've restored my edit since I didn't hear back from you. —{{u|Goldenshimmer}}|✝️|ze/zer|😹|T/C|☮️|John15:12|🍂 20:30, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi, at Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge we're striving to bring about 10,000 article improvements and creations for the UK and Ireland and inspire others to create more content. In order to achieve this we need diversity of content, in all parts of the UK and Ireland on all topics. Eventually a regional contest will be held for all parts of the British Isles, like they were for Wales and the Wedt Country. We currently have just over 1900 articles and need contributors! If you think you'd be interested in collaborating on this and helping reach the target quicker, please sign up and begin listing your entries there as soon as possible! Thanks.♦ --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:40, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Germany, Italy, the Benelux countries, Iberian Peninsula, Romania, Slovenia etc, much like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for Europe and your specialist country like Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every country of Europe, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any country sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thank you. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 09:00, 6 November 2016 (UTC)