User talk:JFG/Archive Fun

I'm being completely earnest here; those pages need more comments like the one I responded to. Too many people get too caught up in it (and I'm not just referring to the political right; the lefty editors and even apolitical editors do this, too) and get waaaaay too upset. It would, IMHO be a damned good thing if a few threads were to degenerate into back-and-forth comedic quips from time to time, rather than petering off when the most vocal editors lose the page in their watchlist, or exploding into shit-stirring AE fodder. Those (too few) of us willing to crack wise on those threads really should band together and Make Talkspace Great Again. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 22:03, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Word. Alas, taking oneself too seriously is a modern-day Wikipedian^[1] pastime. Seems you and I have thick enough skin not to be intimidated by holier-than-thou WP:RGW warriors! Keep the jokes coming! — JFG ^talk 23:11, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@MPants at work: Speaking of vocal editors and shit-stirring, do you have an opinion on this recent instance of drama escalation? IMHO, we could all be indeffed under that standard; quite the chilling effect. — JFG ^talk 23:20, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Hmmm. I was unaware of that particular fecal weather pattern. I remember the ANI thread that kicked it off; that was quite the orgy of drama itself, and I think it's a bit of a shame that Niftz wasn't blocked right away based on their behavior in that thread alone. Having taken a read through HT talk page (my god, what a read. I think I'll be re-reading the Cryptonomicon next, just to take things down a few levels) I have to say that I'm seeing it much the same way I'm seeing politics on WP in general. Essentially, all the editors with political views have lined up in opposing lines and declared their sides. Simultaneously, all of them deny having taken a side. The more moderate editors argue cogently and (more or less) civilly, while the more extreme editors hurl accusations back and forth, mostly remembering to phrase them in ways that won't earn them sanctions.

I'm going to avoid giving an opinion on the central question of "Should HT face sanctions and if so, what sort?" mostly to save you the hassle of reading the two or three paragraphs it would take to get through my thoughts on that. But I will say this: A lot of people claim that WP has a systemic liberal bias. I'm not entirely convinced of that (though I don't dismiss it out of hand at all), but I am convinced that WP needs to do something about the partisanship going on. I can count the number of editor I've seen take both left-wing and right-wing stances on political disagreements on one hand with fingers to spare. Honestly, if it were feasible, I'd go through a list of all the editors working in the topic and topic ban every single one who hasn't gone against their predominant POV at least once, on an issue that wasn't blatantly obvious. (So, a liberal editor declining an edit request to call Trump a piece of shit in wikivoice wouldn't count, but if that same editor took sides with conservative editors on the wording of a statement about Trump, that would count.) ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

You had me at Cryptonomicon. I think I'll go on a binge of Snowcrash, Neuromancer, The Diamond Age, the complete works of Tolstoi in Russian, and finish myself off with À la recherche du temps perdu, Pléiade edition on bible paper (magnifying glass sold separately). For the rest, 111% agree with you. Good night! — JFG ^talk 20:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Compared to some of the drama on this site, that sounds like toilet reading fare. (I actually keep a copy of War and Peace next to the toilet, with a bookmark in it, just to screw with guests). ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 21:07, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Last night I dreamed that you advised me in article talk that the Chrome browser doesn't immediately show my edits to existing comments, something to do with how it handles its browser cache for improved performance. I should therefore avoid modifying existing comments. I responded that that makes the Chrome browser largely incompatible with Wikipedia talk spaces. I hereby ban you from my Wikipedia dreams. ―Mandruss ☎ 06:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

I believe that "editing while dreaming" scores well on the Wikiholism test. I distinctly remember answering "yes" to "have you ever edited from your bath?" (question 94: 5 points). Now you out-scored my tub exploits with 17 points (question 105: "Do you edit articles in your sleep?") Let me gladly award you an extra 3 bonus points for crafting a realistic talk-page mediated tech support discussion. — JFG ^talk 07:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm a drunk, but I'm a happy drunk. ―Mandruss ☎ 07:50, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Mandruss, drinking is supposed to make you forget Wikipedia. You must not be drinking correctly enough. ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:31, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Atsme That was metaphorical per Wikiholism. I'm not really a drunk. Sometimes a glass of red with dinner, more during the holidays. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead and modified it to fit metaphorically. 😆 ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:40, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Hilarious - not. CNBC = not sure what to do with this info. The term was removed here but Google had already picked it up. ^{Atsme📞📧} 13:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Just a random glitch, nothing to get excited about. Some vandal must be laughing today. — JFG ^talk 16:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. --mfb (talk) 22:29, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

We all miss him. (her? zer? zee?) — JFG ^talk 22:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I was surprised to see this, the title of which reminded me of the movie Free Willy. I was even more surprised to see the outcome, and lack of participation. Why was it not listed in any of the WikiProjects? There is now a proposal to merge it into the main article. I kinda sensed our pedia was in trouble when I saw what was happening with the jacket caper but I didn't realize to what lengths we were letting tabloid journalism rule over the pedia... ^{Atsme📞📧} 21:31, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

You must be talking about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Melania (2nd nomination)? Well, it sure reminds me of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Americans Against Insecure Billionaires with Tiny Hands (2nd nomination). As you like to say, — JFG ^talk 22:56, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

I, too, was surprised by the lack of participation the first time around. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:25, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For your auditory contribution to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Melania (2nd nomination). Thank-you. Ifnord (talk) 00:51, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

This soundbite is a gift from Heaven. We should try it at the drama boards… — JFG ^talk 00:53, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes it is, indeed!! I used it (twice) sigh, after being accused that writing *sigh* before/after my comment was casting aspersions. Making a template was so creative and makes it so much easier! Will you please, please, make 2 more templates for the following 2 ogg files: I recorded my guinneafowl because it reminds me of the back and forth on controversial article TPs or "media buzz", and the applause I use as needed. Suggested names: {{fowl}}, and {{clap}} (or foul and claps) *lol* ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:43, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: Glad to be of service:

• {{Applause}} 👏👏👏
• {{Fowl}}

The latter I find quite unnerving; use with caution. — JFG ^talk 10:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

😂 - I promise to not engage in template sound effects overkill. Thank you!! ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:25, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Where should we have the won deposited for keeping dear leader's pictures looking good? PackMecEng (talk) 13:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. — JFG ^talk 17:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Just remember 낮말은 새가 듣고 밤말은 쥐가 듣는다, keep it on the down low. PackMecEng (talk) 17:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Funny - I had been planning to move this article today to remove the year, and when I went to remove it I discovered it's already gone - you beat me to it! Have you been reading my mind, or is it just a case of GMTA (great minds think alike)? --MelanieN (talk) 18:10, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

In my interpretation, we are all meatware in service of the Mighty Wiki… — JFG ^talk 18:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

All hail the great and powerful Wiki. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 19:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Re this, "apparently resolved" is not "closed", which is what #13 says. I've treated "answered" edit requests as "closed" but otherwise applied a bright line that has worked just fine up to now. It wouldn't have hurt anything to keep that around for another 5 days—even if there were four times as many threads in the TOC—and I can safely predict that a blurred line will create problems with premature archival. ―Mandruss ☎ 09:40, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Understood; I had wondered why you archived one thread and not the other. I saw the second one as a distraction, and a continuation of the same editor's misplaced questioning. No biggie. I'm not going to attract attention to this by un-archiving it now. — JFG ^talk 09:47, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't either. How many non-Americans say "no biggie"? I've often felt you don't talk much like a ferner. ―Mandruss ☎ 09:55, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Ouch, you blew my cover! — JFG ^talk 10:01, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

You evidently like to slow down the Wikimedia servers, wasting computing cycles and as much electrical energy as possible by employing horrifically inefficient code. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)^{T @} 06:43, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

?? — JFG ^talk 09:38, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

That was weird. You know, someday I'll find that useful idiot research. It's here somewhere. EEng 04:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

There's hope: the most acrimonious propagandists on this article have disappeared: one was banned as long-term sock, one rage-quit after being placed under neighbourhood watch. — JFG ^talk 08:23, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Aaagh! I just blocked your account by mistake, when I intended to block another editor. I've unblocked you a few seconds after realising my mistake. Many apologies, The Anome (talk) 11:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Really? I didn't even notice. No worries; just please could you clarify whether this error will create a permanent record in my heretofore spotless block log? — JFG ^talk 11:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Alas, yes, it will. However, I don't think anyone will think any the less of you for having it; I've had it done to me (see my block log), and it hasn't caused any problems. Note also the unblock message making it very clear that you were blocked in error. Again, apologies... -- The Anome (talk) 12:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks. — JFG ^talk 12:34, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

I've actually considered blocking myself in the past, just to make the point that a non-empty block log is no big deal. ~Awilley (talk) 14:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

I've been building my block log for years just to make the same point. EEng 15:49, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Is this move vandalism? PackMecEng (talk) 02:54, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

I wondered that myself. Where is JFG hiding these days? ^Atsme _Talk 📧 11:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@PackMecEng and Atsme: May I know what you are talking about? — JFG ^talk 15:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Apparently Generic username1312 moved your talk page and user page to User:Genericusername but JJMC89 moved you back this morning. PackMecEng (talk) 15:18, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

What PME said. I wasn't sure if you decided to change your name or what. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 17:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. I'd be slightly more creative if I ever changed my name. — JFG ^talk 17:39, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

So you are saying you would pick a less generic user name? PackMecEng (talk) 19:28, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I'd pick something simple and distinctive like User ^talk or Talk ^talk… — JFG ^talk 06:58, 1 May 2019 (UTC)