User talk:Legoktm/April 2013

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Adminship again

Looks like you might have missed this, but how about it? Would you like to give RfA a shot? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to put it on my watchlist. Sure, why not? :) Legoktm (talk) 04:49, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
You've got mail. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:16, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

-— Isarra 03:43, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting my edit on Motor (disambiguation). In fact, I was just about to undo my own edit. Cre81ve master (talk) 03:34, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Question about Toolserver

Hello Legoktm, I am running a bot and some web scripts on Toolserver. One of my python web script requires of support of wide unicode character (compile with --enable-unicode=ucs4), which python in web server doesn't.

So what should I do to make my tools works. Thank you :) --Nullzero (talk) 11:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm really not sure. I suppose you could compile a custom version of python with that enabled and then set that to the shebang line? Maybe try asking on the toolserver mailing list? Legoktm (talk) 11:38, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I have tried that. The result is that httplib is unusable due to lacking of something related to openssl. I will ask on the mailing list as you suggest.
Btw, I'd better move some scripts to Wikimedia Labs. Could you add me to bot and tools project please? ;) --Nullzero (talk) 12:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Sure, a labs admin has to approve your request for shell access and then I can do that. Legoktm (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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Database report request

A few months back you created a list of active/inactive AWB users for MBisanz. I'm going thru Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage and removing inactive editors. I've already removed inactive bots. Whenever toolserver decides rejoins the world and not play possum, could I get two reports? One of all users on that list who have not made an edit since January 1, 2012 and another of all those who have made an edit since January 1, 2012. I'm going to be removing more people than MBisanz did. Bgwhite (talk) 07:45, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Legoktm. You have new messages at OrenBochman's talk page.
Message added 12:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

BO | Talk 12:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

About "strange" AFC declining arguments

About that, could you also review this AfC? While declining the album appears correct (given the lack of secondary sources), the used argument not (a music album is not "an event" and should not be judged through WP:NOT#NEWS and WP:ONEEVENT, otherwise almost every music album should be rejected). New editors that use AfC (and that have obvious gaps about our policies and guidelines) could be confused by the use of such "strange" arguments. --Cavarrone (talk) 05:49, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Automatic purging / null editing

Hi Legoktm. At Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 53#Page purging Null edit bot you said your bot could perform a purge or null edit on request. Is it possible for the bot to automatically purge or null edit all pages that have say some specific template on them? If that were the case, then I could for example modify {{File page NFCC concerns tag}} so that it also transcludes that template when being placed on a page. Would that be possible? The rationale for this is that for files tagged with {{File page NFCC concerns tag}} to appear in Category:Non-free files lacking a non-free use rationale for more than 7 days a null edit to the file page containing the template is necessary (I don't know whether a purge would be enough). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 08:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

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Admin

Hey. I was surprised to see that you weren't an admin, given how much I've seen you around with all your bot work and the like. If you're considering adminship I'd have no problems nominating you, so long as there aren't any hidden demons I'm unaware of :) Wizardman 16:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure. As for demons, I haven't been active as much as I used too (and would like to be) in the past few weeks since I've been focusing on Wikidata and schoolwork has been ramping up. I also do have an open RfB on another project so I'm not sure if people will see it as hat collecting. Thanks for considering me though :) Legoktm (talk) 03:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Legobot

Hi. Could you take a look at User talk:Legobot, please? You seem to have missed a couple of posts (including one from me) about Legobot tasks that have stalled. Thank you! Maralia (talk) 12:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I ran the GA task manually and will look into getting it scheduled on another server. Things got moved around on wmflabs and I wasn't keeping track of where everything went. Legoktm (talk) 03:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

labsconsole

Hello again! Now an admin has approved my request for shell access. You could add me to bot and tools project. Thanks a lot :) --Nullzero (talk) 19:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Should be  Done. Legoktm (talk) 09:01, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Database report request

A few months back you created a list of active/inactive AWB users for MBisanz. I'm going thru Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage and removing inactive editors. I've already removed inactive bots. Whenever toolserver decides rejoins the world and not play possum, could I get two reports? One of all users on that list who have not made an edit since January 1, 2012 and another of all those who have made an edit since January 1, 2012. I'm going to be removing more people than MBisanz did. Bgwhite (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, sorry I was still waiting for the toolserver to stabilize :) I'll take a look tonight. Legoktm (talk) 21:38, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Pffft. Toolserver was up 15 consecutive minutes at one point. That is plenty of time.  :) Bgwhite (talk) 22:53, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Running..., I hope it's ok to include indeffed users in the "not made an edit since Jan 1, 2012" list, since the code I wrote for Matt already did that. If not, I can easily take it out. Legoktm (talk) 03:18, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
  • User:Legoktm/Active - made at least 1 edit since Jan 1, 2012
  • User:Legoktm/Inactive - made 0 edits since Jan 1, 2012 or are indefinitely blocked.
Let me know if you want anything different, and feel free to delete those subpages once you're done. (And for my future reference, the script is located at ~/queries/mbisanz2.py). Legoktm (talk) 03:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
That is exactly what I wanted, including the indeffed users. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 07:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)


  • Something is wrong. 123Hedgehog456 95j and 21655 haven't edited since atleast 2011, but are on your active list. There are many more. Bgwhite (talk) 07:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
    • Ugh, it seems I had the date of Jan 1, 2009 that Matt had wanted hardcoded in 2 places rather than one. Fixed and re-running. Legoktm (talk) 07:45, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
    • Ok updated both lists and did a brief spotcheck that looked good. Legoktm (talk) 08:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Darius Dhlomo Drive

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SPI

Thank you for this edit. However, I notice that since the SPI investigation wasn't initiated in the standard way, it is not listed at WP:SPI. Can something be done about this? Thank you. Toccata quarta (talk) 17:38, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Legoktm (talk) 17:40, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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Commons category

Hi, I noticed you have requested a change to {{Commons category}} and would suggest the equivalent change should be made to the inline version {{Commons category-inline}}. Keith D (talk) 11:41, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure, wasn't aware of that template. I'll tweak the code and submit a request for that one too. Legoktm (talk) 11:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:OTRS noticeboard

If you'd given me another 30 seconds you'd have seen me self revert with the comment "misclick". Dpmuk (talk) 04:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries :) Legoktm (talk) 04:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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The Center Line: Spring 2013

sock investigation

Howdy! I'm just curious on how you fixed the template and what did I do wrong?Coffeepusher (talk) 15:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Well to be honest I'm not quite sure. I just took out your evidence, saved it so the template would substitute, and then re-added your evidence. Legoktm (talk) 15:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok, well thank you! It was driving me nuts, and I kept going over and over the instructions and couldn't figure it out. Cheers!Coffeepusher (talk) 15:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I see at least one spot where you had imbalanced brackets ("At a [[User talk:Coffeepusher/Archive 1#Nestle again|conversation on my talk page], BTfromLA...") ... plus, having piped information inside a template that's looking for pipes at specific places can sometimes be problematic (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:54, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Following my comments at User talk:DoRD#Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NestleNW911 broken template, I've since determined (by experiment elsewhere) that the actual problem was not the bulleted list at all, but two mismatched brackets within |evidence=. Specifically, the link [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANestleNW911&diff=535747509&oldid=535528075 they start editing other articles] should have opened witha single square bracket, not double; and the link [[User talk:Coffeepusher/Archive 1#Nestle again|conversation on my talk page] should have closed with a double square bracket, not single. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Got it. Thank you, I'll pay closer attention the next time I fill one of these things out. Cheers. Coffeepusher (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Legoktm. Could you add an explanation as to what this tracking category is for and how it is resolveable? Apparently I'm not the only one wondering! Thanks. SFB 19:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I've added some text on the category. Let me know if you have any more questions or if that doesn't cover it. Legoktm (talk) 20:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Yep, I've got two:
  1. How about the other four cats in Category:Commons category Wikidata tracking categories? Should they have the same explanation as Category:Commons category without a link on Wikidata, or do they have a different purpose?
  2. It seems to me that any article using {{commonscat}} is going to be placed in one of those five, so which one are we aiming to get them into? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:41, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
  1. Well it would be slightly different, but I'll add it in a few minutes.
  2. Correct. We're aiming for either Category:Commons category with local link same as on Wikidata or Category:Commons category with page title same as on Wikidata.
I'm thinking now that it might be a good idea to have a template provide the boilerplate template message so someone doesn't have to add it for every set of categories we create.... Legoktm (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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