User talk:Legoktm/February 2013
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Adminship
Hi Legoktm! Are you by any chance interested in running for adminship? I noticed you while patrolling CAT:CSD and from my quick look it seems you are more than ready. If you like I can do a more in-depth review of your contribs, and if everything looks good, I can nominate you. Let me know what you think. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Go for it Lego. You've got my support.—cyberpower ChatLimited Access 14:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I had already talked to a few other editors about doing an RfA rather soon, I guess I'll go poke them again. Though if you do have some free time and are willing to take a look, I would appreciate it :)
- And thanks Cyber :) Legoktm (talk) 18:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Just to let you know, the kerfluffle about username policy would lead to an "oppose" from me right now (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Kerflufle about username policy? When?—cyberpower ChatOnline 22:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- See above. He answered a helpme totally wrong, got a new editor totally mixed up ... they ended up filing an RFC/N which meant a lot more work for others. Basics like the username policy are, like, basic. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 23:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Admins aren't expected to be perfect... I wonder how many admins are aware that email addresses are no longer permitted. --Rschen7754 00:14, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Just going to footnote that even though I've been an admin for over 7 years, I still have to glance over policies a lot of the time (especially considering that several came well after I passed RFA). What matters more is how an admin responds to a mistake, in my book. As long as they have proved themselves reasonably competent, we don't expect perfection; we expect admins to be teachable. --Rschen7754 08:08, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, admins who don't learn from their mistakes are what are bad. Everyone makes mistakes, basic, complex, large, small... it's a wiki. We fix them, we learn, we move on, and we do not bite people for honest mistakes when they are acting in good faith, even if they broke the entire site. It's only if they don't learn that it becomes an issue, which is why it's also good to see a potential candidate make mistakes ahead of time so we have some idea if that's going to happen when it can really matter. -— Isarra ༆ 08:45, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Just going to footnote that even though I've been an admin for over 7 years, I still have to glance over policies a lot of the time (especially considering that several came well after I passed RFA). What matters more is how an admin responds to a mistake, in my book. As long as they have proved themselves reasonably competent, we don't expect perfection; we expect admins to be teachable. --Rschen7754 08:08, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Admins aren't expected to be perfect... I wonder how many admins are aware that email addresses are no longer permitted. --Rschen7754 00:14, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- See above. He answered a helpme totally wrong, got a new editor totally mixed up ... they ended up filing an RFC/N which meant a lot more work for others. Basics like the username policy are, like, basic. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 23:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- @Bwilkins: I'm sorry a mistake like that would lead to an oppose from you. I wasn't aware that my mistake led to more work by others, if there's anyway I can reduce that please let me know. At least one positive thing came out of all of that, I spent a good amount of time reading and re-reading the username policy the other day, so I can safely say I won't make a mistake like that again :) Legoktm (talk) 07:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Kerflufle about username policy? When?—cyberpower ChatOnline 22:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Just to let you know, the kerfluffle about username policy would lead to an "oppose" from me right now (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi! You've got mail. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hello again. Did you have a think about what I said in that email? Let me know what conclusion you come to. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Hegins
Hello, when you say not available to anyone else, does this mean, no one can view them? Sorry I'm still new at this, just making sure. Do I need another reference? Thanks for the input. βrỴḇṛỹ1999 (talk) 10:28, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Ok I figured it out, I believe you were meaning, that my reference just went to the home page, but then you had to search from there. I figured it out. βrỴḇṛỹ1999 (talk) 10:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Question
What's Wikimedia I? A google search didn't turn up anything for me. Also the noticeboard is designed to support English Wikipedia requests for WMF attention/collaboration, not Wikimedia in whole. Biosthmors (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- It's the Wikimedia mailing list, see this for more info. Legoktm (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- If it's only for the english Wikipedia, would you propose also having one on every other language and project that the WMF community liaisons would need to follow as well? -— Isarra ༆ 07:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #43

- Development
- Deployment on the Hebrew and Italian Wikipedia ( )
- Switched the Wikipedias over to a new, more scalable dispatching changes script for propagating changes from the repository to the clients
- Fixing various deeply buried bugs and a few minor bugs reported after deployment
- Preparations for next deployment on wikidata.org
- Working on property parser function for the client
- Implemented robust serialization of changes for dispatching
- Resumed work on linked data interface
- References can now be created, edited and removed on existing statements
- Several minor user interface fixes
- Styling of the user interface for statements
- Selenium tests for references
- Selenium tests for non-JS SpecialPages
- Worked on puppet
- Discussions/Press
- Abuse filter guidelines
- Policy on properties
- First external tool for output in RDF: and
- Running your own instance of Wikibase (for science!)
- Events
- We’ve set the date for the next office hours
- upcoming: FOSDEM
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Admin reconfirmation is still ongoing
- Deployment of first parts of phase 2 on wikidata.org are planned for February 4 and deployment on English Wikipedia for February 11. See this blog post for details and more dates.
- Open Tasks for You
- Test statements on the [demo system before the roll-out to wikidata.org on February 4
- Hack on one of these
A brownie for you!
The Signpost: 04 February 2013
- Special report: Examining the popularity of Wikipedia articles
On February 12, 2012, news of Whitney Houston's death brought 425 hits per second to her Wikipedia article, the highest peak traffic on any article since at least January 2010. It is broadly known that Wikipedia is the sixth most popular website on the Internet, but the English Wikipedia now has over 4 million articles and 29 million total pages. Much less attention has been given to traffic patterns and trends in content viewed.
- News and notes: Article Feedback Tool faces community resistance
Article feedback, at least through talk pages, has been a part of Wikipedia since its inception in 2001. The use of these pages, though, has typically been limited to experienced editors who know how to use them.
- WikiProject report: Land of the Midnight Sun
This week, we took a trip to WikiProject Norway. Started in February 2005, WikiProject Norway has become the home for almost 34,000 articles about the world's best place to live, including 16 Featured Articles, 19 Featured Lists, and nearly 250 Good Articles. The project works on a to do list, maintains a categorization system, watches article alerts, and serves as a discussion forum.
- Featured content: Portal people on potent potables and portable potholes
This week, the Signpost's featured content section continues its recap of 2012 by looking at featured portals, a small yet active part of the project. We interviewed FPOC directors Cirt and OhanaUnited.
- In the media: Star Trek Into Pedantry
On 30 January 2013, Kevin Morris in the Daily Dot summarised the bitter debates in Wikipedia around capitalisation or non-capitalisation of the word "into" in the title of the upcoming Star Trek film, Star Trek Into Darkness.
- Technology report: Wikidata team targets English Wikipedia deployment
Following the deployment of the Wikidata client to the Hungarian Wikipedia last month, the client was also deployed to the Italian and Hebrew Wikipedias on Wednesday. The next target for the client, which automatically provides phase 1 functionality, is the English Wikipedia, with a deployment date of 11 February already set.
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Bots project on Labs
Hello, Legoktm. I want to join the Bots project and you are a member of it. A simple reason can be found here. Would you please add me to the project? Thanks. --Makecat 06:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
WMLabs Tag
Thanks for that WMLabs Cluster tag at User:VoxelBot Legoktm... just being helpful as usual
. Didn't even know it existed. Vacation9 02:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
CCI update
| Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Ktr101 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI. |
--Wizardman 04:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #44

- Development
- Deployment of the first parts of phase 2 (infoboxes/statements) on wikidata.org done - see it live for example here, here and here
- Diffs for statement edits can now be shown
- Started work on query definitions
- Edit links are now disabled in the interface when the user does not have the rights to edit
- Edit links are now hidden when viewing old revision
- Worked on search field for WikibaseSolr
- More work on Lua templates for Wikibase entities
- Worked on bugfixes in the statement user interface
- New features in the statement user interface (references counter/heading)
- JavaScript editing for table showing labels and description of the same item in different languages
- Repaired and updated the demo system
- Resumed work on Linked Data interface
- Support for enhanced recent changes format in client
- There are automatic comments for statement edits as well in the history now
- Special page for unconnected pages, that is pages on the client that are not connected to items on the repository
- Added permission checks for statements, so a user that can not edit will not be able to edit or that only a group can be allowed to do some changes like creating statements
- Discussions/Press
- Signpost
- Lots of discussions about the usage details and policies of phase 2 on d:Wikidata:Project chat
- Events
- FOSDEM
- upcoming: office hour (English; German later)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Deployment of phase 1 (language links) on the English language Wikipedia is still planned for Monday late evening UTC (pending a performance review)
- List of existing properties and their usage
- List of new proposed properties
- Open Tasks for You
- d:User:PinkAmpersand is looking for someone to write a script that once someone has been made an autopatroller, retroactively patrols all of their prior edits
- d:Wikidata:Press coverage could use some love and care
- Hack on one of these
Help me
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Hi! I could use some help. I just got a message from someone who said I've been over-linking. Here's a page for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary%27s_Anglican_Girls%27_School What are the rules or guidelines for linking? I thought I should link people in case a page is made for them later on but I wasn't sure.
Thank you.
TheWisestOfFools (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- The guideline you're looking for is Wikipedia:Red link. In a nutshell, you are encouraged to make red links when you intend to write a new article on a notable subject, or when you feel a subject is notable enough that someone else will create the article. There are other important parts of that guideline that you may also want to read. Hope this helps. – PAINE ELLSWORTH C L I M A X ! 01:08, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Stendan
I've taken your warnings off the author's page, and GB fan has restored the article. It's very unlikely that characters from Hollyoaks would sue us for libel. It wasn't very clear in the article that this was about a soap opera, however. I've prodded it as being unencyclopaedic (if it's a real plot line) or made up (if it hasn't appeared on screen). Peridon (talk) 13:42, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 11 February 2013
- Op-ed: An article is a construct – hoaxes and Wikipedia
Wikipedia has a long, daresay storied history with hoaxes; our internal list documents 198 of the largest ones we have caught as of 4 January 2013. Why?
- Featured content: A lousy week
Six articles, one list, and fourteen pictures were promoted to "featured" states this week on the English Wikipedia.
- WikiProject report: Just the Facts
This week, we got the details on WikiProject Infoboxes.
- In the media: Wikipedia mirroring life in island ownership dispute
Foreign Policy has published a report on editing of the Wikipedia articles on the Senkaku Islands and Senkaku Islands dispute. The uninhabited islands are under the control of Japan, but China and Taiwan are asserting rival territorial claims. Tensions have risen of late—and not just in the waters surrounding the actual islands.
- News and notes: UK chapter governance review marks the end of a controversial year
Wikimedia UK, the non-profit organization devoted to furthering the goals of the Wikimedia movement in the United Kingdom, has published the findings of a governance review conducted by Compass Partnership.
- Discussion report: WebCite proposal
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- Technology report: Wikidata client rollout stutters
The WMF's engineering report for January was published this week.
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Wikidata is here; please disable any interwiki bots on the English Wikipedia
Thanks for the info, i update my bot quickly --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 10:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems that my bot has updated automatically and stopped working on interwikis here. Thanks for your notification. --Makecat 02:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Great! Legoktm (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Legoktm, I saw your note on the user talk pages for two or three bots, such as this. I don't think MastiBot (talk · contribs) is aware, because I just came across this edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- I notified User:Masti on their plwiki talk page (most were contacted on a different project, see this list). If the bot is actively causing problems, I would block it, but from a quick glance this doesn't seem to be the case. In the note I sent around, I said we would start blocking on Saturday (11 hours from now), however there is some relevant discussion on WP:BON about what interwiki tasks are still needed. Legoktm (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I've been threatened
Future Perfect at Sunrise has threatened to block me if I edit a word he doesn't like. In other words, it's ok for some people to edit an article as many times as they want and threaten others who change it, but when I ask him not to threaten me, then I'M the one who threatens????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitrakana (talk • contribs) 14:18, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- You created a category called Category:Stop harassing the site, effectively saying FPaS is harrassing you, when s/he isn't (WP:Harassment). They gave you a legitimate warning for edit warring. You should read WP:EW and use the talk page to discuss your changes before making them. Legoktm (talk) 14:20, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #45

- Development
- Deployment to English Wikipedia
- Fix various minor bugs in client, including watchlist toggle with preference to default to always show Wikidata edits
- Added the new Baso Minangkabau Wikipedia (min)
- Fixed wrong revision of statements being shown in diff and old revision view
- Diff visualization for claims (simple version for main snak)
- Diff visualization for claims (extended version for references, qualifiers, ranks)
- Tooltip that notifies about the license your contributions will be covered by while editing (can be disabled by each user)
- Started with valueview refactoring
- Started with user interface handling of deleted properties
- Started with refactoring of local partial entity lookup
- Started with refactoring of toolbar usage in jQuery.wikibase view widgets
- Finished improvement on jQuery.wikibase.claimview’s edit mode handling
- Improved search by using entity selector in search field instead of normal MediaWiki search field
- More work on Lua-based templates for entities
- Specified the capabilities of the query language we need
- Created query object
- Proper bot-flagging of edits (bugzilla:44857)
- Use of ID to directly address an item or property
- Search should give more of the complete matches now
- Special:ItemByTitle should work for canonical namespaces and later on for local namespaces
- More robust format for notifications of changes on the repository to the client
- Started work on refactoring API and autocomments code
- Started to maintain documentation of configuration options in git
- Discussions/Press
- Events
- Upcoming: Wikipedia Day NYC
- Upcoming: office hour in English tomorrow
- Note: changed day of next German office hour to March 8
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- We have a time scheduled when Wikidata will be read-only for a database migration. The window for that is Feb 20 19:00 to Feb 21 2:00 UTC.
- New features and bugfixes on Wikidata are planned to be deployed on Monday (Feb 18). This should among other things include:
- Showing useful diffs for edits of claims (they’re currently empty)
- Automatic comments for editing of claims (there are currently none)
- Ability to add items to claims by their ID
- Better handling of deleted properties
- More results in the entity selector (that’s the thing that lets you select properties, items and so on) so you can add everything and not just the first few matches that are shown
- We’re still working on the issue that sometimes editing of certain parts of items or properties isn’t possible. If you’re running into it try to reload the page and/or change the URL to the www. version or the non-www. version respectively.
- Deployment on all other Wikipedias is currently planned for March 6 (a note to the Village Pumps of all affected projects will follow soon)
- Check out a well-done item
- Open Tasks for You
- Help expand en:Wikipedia:Wikidata
- Help expand and translate Wikidata/Deployment Questions
- Hack on one these
A beer for you!
| On da house! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC) |
Legobot on bots-nr1
Dear Lego. I noticed that you added a legobot to bots-nr1. Last time, on bots-3, there was an issue with your bot and my bots fighting for memory (well, your bot was eating it all :-/, which was the reason to move my bots to another instance ...), and I have also noticed some strange crashes on bots-nr1 lately, and I did not find a real cause.
Can you inform me of the next couple of times that your bot will run (mine run continuous) - I'd like to see where the issue is (whether it is my bots which are the problem, or whether .. we are incompatible on the same instance).
Hope to hear from you. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Dirk, right now none of my bots are running on nr1 because of a weird issue with my python-virtualenv (I don't think they've run at all actually). The script that was an issue on bots-3 is staying on bots-3 since it hasn't brought down the instance again, nor do I have time to fix it. All the scripts that I copied over to nr1 are very simple, and should be less than 10 minutes of run time. I usually try and keep User:Legobot/cron up to date, so that should give you an idea when my scripts will run (after I fix the virtualenv issue). Legoktm (talk) 13:49, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- OK .. so it is something else (memory leak somewhere in my bots ..?). Thanks for the link to the cron, I'll see if I see a match there if and when it happens again. Cheers. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:19, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Notice to talk page stalkers: New tool
I have been working on a new tool, wikidata/checker.py. It takes a "Q##" as input, and gives information whether it is ok to remove the langlinks. It can even detect if the local link is a redirect pointing to the wikidata one. An example is Q1, which states that Legobot will automatically process the page (this doesn't work yet). If you look at Q42, it says the page has been migrated to Wikidata. Q8454 has errors, and are highlighted in red.
Please treat it gently for now, it hasn't been optimized yet. It's quite possible it has bugs, if you do find any, please report them :) Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 15:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 18 February 2013
- WikiProject report: Thank you for flying WikiProject Airlines
This week, we put our life in the hands of WikiProject Airlines. Starting in July 2005, the project has improved articles relating to airline companies, alliances, destination lists, and travel benefit programs. WikiProject Airlines has accumulated over 4,000 pages, including 4 Featured Articles and 26 Good Articles.
- Technology report: Better templates and 3D buildings
As of time of writing, twenty wikis (including the English, French and Hungarian Wikipedias) are in the process of getting access to the Lua scripting language, an optional substitute for the clunky template code that exists at present.
- News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation declares 'victory' in Wikivoyage lawsuit
On February 15, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) declared 'victory' in its counter-lawsuit against Internet Brands (IB), the owner of Wikitravel and the operator of several online media, community, and e-commerce sites in vertical markets. The lawsuit clears the last remaining hurdles for the WMF's new travel guide project, Wikivoyage.
- In the media: Sue Gardner interviewed by the Australian press
Sue Gardner's visit to Australia sparked a number of interviews in the Australian press. An interview published in the Daily Telegraph on 12 February 2013, titled "Data plans 'unnerving': Wikipedia boss", saw Gardner comment on Australian plans to store personal internet and telephone data. The planned measure, intended to assist crime prevention, would involve internet service providers and mobile phone firms storing customer usage data for up to two years.
- Featured content: Featured content gets schooled
Two articles, nine lists, and thirteen pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week.
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Question
Wikidata and the WP:EN article Enclave and exclave
Hi. I've been experimenting with Wikidata, adding various statements and correcting interwiki links were necessary. But I've come across an issue with the WP:EN article Enclave and exclave, which covers two linked concepts in one article. This makes it very hard to provide links for the Wikidata concepts of enclave and exclave, especially as Wikidata does not appear to let me set up interwiki links pointing at redirect pages. I've discused this further at Talk:Enclave and exclave#Reconsideration of merge of enclave and exclave, mostly from the perspective of whether we should demerge the article. As somebody who seems to be involved in the integration of Wikidata and WP:EN, you may like to comment there. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you
For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. I appreciate it. :) Greengreengreenred 02:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 February 2013
- In the media: Ex-WMF trustee creates "Wikipedia Corporate Index" for PR agency
On 13 February 2013, PR Report, the German sister publication of PR Week, published an article announcing that PR agency Fleishman-Hillard was offering a new analysis tool enabling companies to assess their articles in the German-language Wikipedia: the Wikipedia Corporate Index (WCI).
- Recent research: Wikipedia not so novel after all, except to UK university lecturers
"Wikipedia and Encyclopedic Production" by Jeff Loveland (a historian of encyclopedias) and Joseph Reagle situates Wikipedia within the context of encyclopedic production historically, arguing that the features that many claim to be unique about Wikipedia actually have roots in encyclopedias of the past.
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- Discussion report: Wikivoyage links; overcategorization
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- Featured content: Blue birds be bouncin'
Six articles, three lists, and twelve images were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this month.
- WikiProject report: How to measure a WikiProject's workload
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- Technology report: Wikidata development to be continued indefinitely
Wikimedia Germany (WMDE) this week committed itself to funding the Wikidata development team, ending fears that phase three would be abandoned.
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