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Objective vs Subjective:
Subjective information is one person's opinion. In a newspaper, the editorial section is the place for subjectivity. It can be based on fact, but it is one person's interpretation of that fact. In this way, subjective information is also analytical.
Student research papers are usually subjective, in that the writer formulates a thesis statement and uses sources that support that thesis. Bear in mind that there is usually another equally valid viewpoint that can be supported with other sources.
Objective information reviews many points of view. It is intended to be unbiased. News reporters are supposed to be objective and report the facts of an event. Encyclopedias and other reference materials provide objective information. from https://www.lib.odu.edu/genedinfolit/1infobasics/subjective_vs_objective.html MLKLewis (talk) 20:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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Promotional editing
You seem to think it is ok to add promotional junk into WP:BLP. I removed the "Subsequent work" sections as its highly promotional with poor references but seems to think that ok to post such promotional trash into Wikipedia. scope_creepTalk 00:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Scope creep Please provide specific examples of promotional statements from the "Subsequent work" section and what references you find objectionable. we can work together to craft something better. The more specific you can be the better we can make the entry.MLKLewis (talk) 02:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Editwarring (yet again)
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Werner Erhard
Hi @MLKLewis: Your behaving as though you have some kind of relationship with Erhard. What is it , because currently at the moment, your going to end up at WP:ANI for adding in the WP:NPOV junk. scope_creepTalk 16:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Scope creep Please say what part of the material you removed you see as promotional Again the more specific you are the better we can work together. MLKLewis (talk) 02:50, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- The first three references are interviews and seem him relaunching his career. We can go through all the references in that block if you want. The rest of the references are less than salubrious. Its not well sourced at all. scope_creepTalk 07:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Here is the content I put back in to the article about Erhard's work in the Soviet Union after you removed it along with other material about Erhard's later work. "In 1993, Erhard participated in a Larry King Live episode titled "Whatever Happened to Werner Erhard?" via satellite from Moscow, where he was working with the All Union Knowledge Society and a number of the members of the newly formed Russian parliament. What possibly could be seen as POV here (or promotional)?
- The references for this are not from interviews. They are from reputable sources:
- Here is the content I put back in to the article about Erhard's work in the Soviet Union after you removed it along with other material about Erhard's later work. "In 1993, Erhard participated in a Larry King Live episode titled "Whatever Happened to Werner Erhard?" via satellite from Moscow, where he was working with the All Union Knowledge Society and a number of the members of the newly formed Russian parliament. What possibly could be seen as POV here (or promotional)?
- Hilton, Ronald (1986). "World Affairs Report". California Institute of International Studies. 16–17. (Not an interview - "The Institute of International Studies at the University of California, Berkeley is a multidisciplinary organized research unit. IIS represents an interdisciplinary arena of scholarship characterized by the analysis of connective and systemic dynamics in global politics and economics.")
- Friends Committee on National Legislation (1989). "Surviving Together, Institute for Soviet American Relations". Committee and the Institute, University of Michigan (17–22). "The Werner Erhard Foundation, in its fifth year of sponsoring an exchange with the USSR's Znaniye Society, recently hosted a US visit by a Soviet delegation of scholars, economists, and high-ranking officials. The group took part in a symposium with Erhard dealing with the phenomena of managing change." (Not an interview - "The Friends Committee on National Legislation is a national, nonpartisan Quaker organization that lobbies Congress and the administration to advance peace")
- "Lunch with the FT: Werner Erhard". The Financial Times. April 28, 2012. "Erhard tells me that paramilitaries in Northern Ireland had a bit of trouble too, but when they did get it they disarmed as a result. He also worked with members of the first Russian parliament in 1993." The Financial Times
- Haldeman, Peter (November 28, 2015). "The Return of Werner Erhard, Father of Self-Help". The New York Times. "For several years before his latest professional reincarnation, Mr. Erhard consulted for businesses and government agencies like the Russian adult-education program the Znaniye Society and a nonprofit organization supporting clergy in Ireland." The New York TimesMLKLewis (talk) 02:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
If you want to discuss the contents of the article, please do so over at its talkpage instead of here. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 05:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Editwarring redux the sequel yet again ad nauseam
Just a reminder:
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I hope you will refrain from editwarring this time; but if you don't we will end up at ANI again. Repetition is boring. Please stop it. Polygnotus (talk) 17:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)