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Heads up. I tagged it for an RD1 request, but I think it may be public domain since it was published in New Zealand. However, I don't want to trigger any filters. I apologize for any disruption. Scorpions13256 (talk) 04:25, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Rationale behind these revdels

Hi Nthep, thank you for answering so many revdels! I just wanted to get your thought rationale behind these two requests of mine (Abba Estifanos and Litani River Dam), as I see them as pretty similar cases. Why was Abba Estifanos declined while Litani was accepted? Sennecaster (Chat) 00:46, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

@Sennecaster there's a variety of things (a non exhaustive list) that I consider:
  1. how far back does the copyright go?
  2. what proportion of the article is a copyvio?
  3. how many other editors have edited the article in the interim?
  4. how significant are those other editors contributions to the article?
  5. how blatant was the original copy violent?
If, for example, a copyvio has gone unnoticed for several years but the only edits since then have been gnomeish things like typos, categories, small additions, then I'd probably revdel the lot. If it was a more recent copyvio but there have been considerable and substantial changes to the article text by other editors, I might decline the revdel under the large scale use clause of WP:REVDEL.
I try to be reasonably consistent but probably don't manage to be so. Nthep (talk) 07:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Alright, thanks! I figured it was probably admin discretion/inconsistencies, but just wanted to make sure :) Happy revdeleting,Sennecaster (Chat) 18:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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For your significant contributions over the years.. Keep it up! Volten001 ☎ 07:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 51

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Thanks for tirelessly working through revdel requests and keeping articles clear of copyvios! Your work is greatly appreciated. Complex/Rational 21:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@ComplexRational Thanks, but I think the harder part is yours and the others who identify the copyvios and there sources. Nthep (talk) 22:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Indeed, it is a challenging and thankless line of work, though someone needs to do the tedious job of taking out the trash... Complex/Rational 22:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

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  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
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Regarding Harry Potter and 9/11

Can I get a more detaled reason why my artcle was rejencted? 70.56.147.118 (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a repository of reddit discussions speculating on obscure and hypothetical topics. If the topic is truly notable then you could provide multiple, reliable sources about the topic, not a single reddit drama board. Nthep (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I have more Reddit posts and a Fandom W*nk link if you want 70.56.147.118 (talk) 20:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
No, it needs reliable sources - please read the links I gave above, not just fan speculation, theorising and discussion. Nthep (talk) 20:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
And any such edits would fall under a discretionary sanctions regime regardless of how well-sourced they were. But we do not allow original synthesis or crackpot theories, especially so where discretionary sanctions are involved. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Chinese Military Exercises Near Taiwan

You redacted (revdel'd) some material from this article about twelve hours ago. A request was filed at DRN to discuss the deletion, by an editor who says that Mr. Blinken's words are in the public domain. I closed the DRN request as outside the scope of DRN, because we are not a copyright forum. I would appreciate if you would review my closure and provide any additional information to the filing editor. I can't see what was deleted, but, from your edit summary, I am inferring that the editor who copied the material was copying an account of Mr. Blinken's statement that was published in a news medium, in which case the news medium has copyright on the reporting of his words. Please check whether I closed the matter correctly. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon I agree with your close. The material was copied from a news medium and there was no way of ascertaining if the news outlet were quoting Blinken accurately or summarising his speech. Nthep (talk) 10:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
(Hi Robert McClenon and Nthep, just so you know, the discussion seems to have moved to Talk:2022_Chinese_military_exercises_around_Taiwan#Restore_statement_by_US_Secretary_of_State_Antony_Blinken.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:00, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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Championship Rugby Table

what's the difference between having 0|0 next to the results on the championship results page?... i'm confused (lol)... on the super league results page, it doesn't have it. i don't really understand what it means...

regards - L1amw90 01:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


The template {{0}} allows you to keep the scores in alignment with each other by inserting invisible characters so you can balance the number of characters each side of the dash i.e. the dash is always in the centre.

More information without {{0}}, with {{0}} ...
demonstration of using template to pad
without {{0}} with {{0}}
6–4 6–4 padding not needed, equal number of characters each side of the dash
12–6 12-6 one character needed on right to pad out
12-22 12–22 padding not needed, equal number of characters each side of the dash
4–48 4–48 one character needed on left to pad out
100–4 100–4 two characters needed on right to pad out
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Nthep (talk) 07:05, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@L1amw90 ps. Table captions are not optional, see MOS:TABLECAPTION. Nthep (talk) 07:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Library of Congress query

Hi Nthep, just a quick query as I would like to be clear myself regarding content from LOC, especially as you took a view regarding a recent revdel request from their site. I was (mistakenly, perhaps?) of the view that it isn't necessarily the case that all content on LOC is PD, and their copyright page seems to support that as a general idea (admittedly it generally refers to items, rather than prose, but implies that not all content published there is PD). Please can you kindly confirm for me why the prose content on the page https://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/matpc/background.html would be classed as PD (as I observe from the bottom that the content is attributed to individuals)? It would help me to understand better if I encounter any future copy-pastes from pages within the LOC. Many thanks. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:46, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bungle The text at https://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/matpc/background.html is credited to "Verna Curtis, Curator of Photography, and Arden Alexander, Cataloger". From the titles it implies they were at the time employees of the LoC and as such their work is PD as the text is "a work prepared by an officer or employee of the United States Government as part of that person's official duties." Nthep (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

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