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How do you ban people from editing a page?
Hello. I have an issue with my page. My draft has been edited by imposters that explains my article as pornstars and strippers. They include my slimy basement, prostitution, and breast abuse. I tried reverting changes, but that corrupted the article. Can you please tell me how to place a semi-protected block on my page, so this can stop ASAP? Thank you so much. P.S. My draft name is Draft:Tom Gibson (series), Draft:Tom Gibson (character), Draft:Henry Redman, and Draft:Emily Roses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaddai Wright (talk • contribs) 00:00, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Shaddai Wright, thanks for pointing this out, and I'm sorry you have to deal with that. I have issued a warning to the user who vandalized the pages, and I will block them if they continue their vandalism. I don't think it's necessary to protect the pages unless the problem continues; I have placed the pages on my watchlist and I will take action if necessary. As a more general answer to your question, the best way to get help with things like this is to leave a message at the Administrators Noticeboard for Intervention: WP:ANI Hopefully this will not continue. Feel free to reach out if it does, and if I don't spot it myself. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:24, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
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DGG ( talk ) 04:28, 23 October 2019 (UTC)- Thanks for reviewing it DGG, I think it still needs substantial expansion (at its present state, it's as much a reflection of my limited knowledge as it is of the topic as a whole) -- but it's probably worth keeping in main space in the meantime. I put a cautionary banner at the top in the meantime. Much appreciated -- and hope I might see you at Wikiconference next month? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 06:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
A goat for you!
Thank you for your help with getting me started on Wikisource, especially on Some Cities and San Francisco, and Resurgam!
Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 14:48, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Thatoneweirdwikier: Thanks for the goat! It's a very good goat. I'm pleased to have your help with this interesting text. If you're interested in another project, maybe you'd enjoy The Souvenir of Western Women. It was a nice layman's guide to Portland prepared in conjunction with the Lewis and Clark Centennial Exposition, an World's Fair that spurred interest in Portland, Oregon and the American west more generally. I think it's not very well known because the author did not put much effort into marketing, and then met an untimely death shortly after publication. But it's a pretty interesting snapshot of western history, and IMO a very nice thing to have reproduced on Wikisource. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 00:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Meek's Cutoff

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Your draft article, Draft:Rogue River Press

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Lapablo (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
PR request
Hello Pete, I was wondering whether you would like to add your opinions to an ongoing peer review for SpongeBob SquarePants (character). It's OK if you haven't got the time. Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 06:11, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for James A. Redden
On 2 April 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article James A. Redden, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Indefensible (talk) 16:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Newspapers
Pete, I have been working on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Newspapers to update the metrics so that it is easier to keep track of what is accomplished and yet to be done. I have added to the Tutorial tab to help users update the State lists and newspaper articles. I am convinced that the most important thing to do is to start with an update-to-date List of newspapers in each of the States, first I have worked on Minnesota, North Carolina, Washington, D.C. and several of the other countries in North America. Each U.S. state and every sovereign country in North America now has a list of newspapers. The Library of Congress Chronicling America database and state newspaper associations are the best way to update these lists. A link can then be added to newspapers that are notable using the project notability definition. I always start the article with the full infobox, since the basic information can be found in the Chronicling America database. First newspapers or first newspapers in a given language are notable for any state. National newspapers have articles for the most part. I have also made sure that all newspaper articles have an importance, which is another way of seeing what should be done and what is left to be done. I patrol the unassessed newspaper articles and newspaper articles without an importance to make sure they have those values after created. If you have people to work on this, you might think of giving them an assignment of a particular state to check the list and identify notable newspapers. County newspapers that have been around for a while are notable. Another thing that could be done is work on upgrading Start or C class articles that currently exists to at least B level. It takes some more skill in Wiki and researching abilities to bring articles to a GA or FA level. We probably also want to bring some state lists to the FL class. Washington, D.C. is probably close to FL level. This takes a lot of work, as I have found when tring to make a FL article in another project.
I am home schooling two of my grandchildren, so my days are pretty full now. Feel free to start a discussion in the Project Talk page. I usually get to work on WikiPedia first thing in the morning or late at night.
G. Moore 00:01, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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Writing Wikipedia Articles course
Hello Peter. I came across Wikipedia:Writing Wikipedia Articles course and Special:PrefixIndex/Education Program talk:Peer to Peer University/Writing Wikipedia Articles, and am trying to figure out how they relate, why they are in two different namespaces, and why some pages are blank except for a non-breaking space. Also, I see that you redirected Education Program talk:Peer to Peer University/Writing Wikipedia Articles (2013 Q2), but the page is still linked from Wikipedia:Writing Wikipedia Articles course/Archives and other pages, not to mention there are still other pages associated with this course (e.g., /Blackboard, /Lab). I see you were an instructor for this course (perhaps not the 2013 version) and edited a lot of these pages, so I am hoping you may be able to provide some quick context. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
George Floyd protests in Oregon
Thanks so much for your updates to George Floyd protests in Oregon. If you have any interest in updating the PDX page as well, that'd be great, I'm falling behind yet I feel busier on Wikipedia than ever! Either way, thanks again and stay safe. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:32, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: No problem, I wish I'd jumped in earlier. I can see there's plenty to do! I'll be working on both of them in the coming days. If there are specific areas you'd like me to focus on, let me know. I do have a number of photos I'm planning to upload to Commons, mostly from over the weekend (Franklin High School, Buckman Elementary, and Revolution Hall/NE 15th). So far they're on my Twitter feed. For instance these. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Peteforsyth, Oh, great! Looking forward to more images at Commons. No specific requests -- just need to fill the gaps for recent days, where I know there have been smaller protests all around town and still nighttime scuffles downtown. If I were just focused on PDX, I could keep up, but I'm working on so many other pages right now. Much appreciated! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Online news sources around the world
Het Pete,
It was good talking with you in Stockholm. I recently posted a question on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Newspapers#Prominent_news_sources_for_each_region_of_the_world that you may be able to help with. Alternatively, I'd need to build this list - but I'd rather avoid it if I could. Thanks for looking into it, effeietsanders 01:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Oregon collapsing section top
Template:WikiProject Oregon collapsing section top has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Thank you for your work at the article on the historic protests ongoing in Portland, Oregon. Your contributions are important, they are noted, and they will help the world make sure a city's and a nation's struggle are seen and recorded. Ocaasi t | c 22:53, 20 July 2020 (UTC) |
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- Thank you Gerda Arendt. Very gratifying. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Replacement Images
Hi, Peteforsyth.
I'm new and I was trying to find an admin to ask a question. I've seen you in a few places, so I'll give it a shot. Are users allowed to upload replacement images. And if so, may I upload an image to replace a certain image using the same destination area? Please let me know. If I can, that'd be nice. If I can't, alright. That's also fine. Thank you!
- @LocalContributor281: No administrator is needed. The place to discuss the file is on the article where it's used, on its talk page: Talk:Mickey Mouse. You need to state clearly what problem you perceive, and are trying to solve. Making changes that accomplishe no apparent purpose, to files that are widely viewed, is behavior that looks to most Wikipedia editors like vandalism. The way to avoid that perception is to state clearly what it is that you're trying to do, in the relevant place (the article's talk page). -Pete Forsyth (talk) 15:55, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thank you so much! LocalContributor281 (talk) 16:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Category:African-American journalists of Omaha, Nebraska has been nominated for merging
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Article Dispute
Hello, it's me again. I have a question regarding information in an infobox. Over the past month, there's been a dispute whether a certain one-shot character should be added in the infobox or not. A user named TheDoctorWho keeps placing her as a main cast member. I strongly disagree with this as the character has been a one-shot and after that, was completely scrapped. The article that this issue is occurring in is Psych and the actress's name is Anne Dudek. Once you get the chance to review it, could you please state your final decision to conclude the debate? Thank you. LocalContributor281 (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- @LocalContributor281: I think by that message you seem a little confused on how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia disputes can be solved using multiple methods one of which should not be canvassing (which you are doing here). It's also worthy to note that one person does not get a
"final decision"
to conclude any dispute, disputes are solved by consensus, which involve multiple editors coming to a general agreement. The proper place to seek resolution in a dispute would firstly be the article talk page which you correctly did. When that did not fix the problem you should not remove the discussion as you did here, that actually goes against the talk page guidelines, nor should you go to a single editor you think may agree with you as you did on this page. A proper next step, after the talk page discussion yielded no results would be to seek a mediated discussion at a forum such as the dispute resolution noticeboard or a wider consensus on a related talk page such as the Manual of Style/Television talk page. As I previously stated though, this is the standard for other short-lived cast members such as with Kelly Hu on The 100 (pilot only) and Nia Peeples on Pretty Little Liars (pilot only), so if you're looking to change something it would need a wider consensus so that the decision could be applied across all television articles. Thanks, TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:21, 28 November 2020 (UTC)- I think you're missing the point. I've known this user for a little while and he tends to correct a lot of my errors, even if the way he puts it out can very well trigger me. I'm not trying to get a "pal" to take my side here. This is just someone that has helped me and I'm requesting that he takes a look at this stuff. You can check his talk page to see that everything I'm saying is in fact legitimate. LocalContributor281 (talk) 07:45, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- @LocalContributor281: Perhaps it was just the way it was worded but it certainly came across as canvassing the first time I read it, it is entirely possible though that I misinterpreted it and if that is the case I do apologize. I definitely don't mean to trigger anyone, I fully believe we both have a common goal of making sure that everything is listed correctly. Instead of just pointing you to MOS:TVCAST this time I will explain how MOS:TV applies and quote the specific text I'm referring to:
Even if not your typical starring cast member Dudek did receive main billing (which is a hard and straight fact not up for debate). So per that text above she should remain listed despite the low popularity, screentime, and episode count because she was a main cast member at one time as the series producers credited her that way instead of a guest star. I hope that clears up my stance on the issue? TheDoctorWho (talk) 08:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)Articles should reflect the entire history of a series, and as such cast members remain on the list even after their departure from the series. Please keep in mind that though "main" cast members are determined by the series producers (not by popularity, screen time, or episode count) and generally have a set order in the credits.
- @LocalContributor281: Perhaps it was just the way it was worded but it certainly came across as canvassing the first time I read it, it is entirely possible though that I misinterpreted it and if that is the case I do apologize. I definitely don't mean to trigger anyone, I fully believe we both have a common goal of making sure that everything is listed correctly. Instead of just pointing you to MOS:TVCAST this time I will explain how MOS:TV applies and quote the specific text I'm referring to:
- I think you're missing the point. I've known this user for a little while and he tends to correct a lot of my errors, even if the way he puts it out can very well trigger me. I'm not trying to get a "pal" to take my side here. This is just someone that has helped me and I'm requesting that he takes a look at this stuff. You can check his talk page to see that everything I'm saying is in fact legitimate. LocalContributor281 (talk) 07:45, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the inquiry LocalContributor281. I can see how TheDoctorWho would regard this as an instance of canvassing (especially since you state "state your final decision to conclude the debate" -- I don't have any authority to do that). However, I take your request at face value, and I'll leave a comment on the article's talk page. Since I'm not an expert on this topic (far from it), my comment will not be at all definitive, but hopefully it's a little helpful in bringing things to consensus. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:04, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, both of you. We have talked out a deal and decided to keep TheDoctorWho's changes for now. LocalContributor281 (talk) 02:14, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Deletion discussion for Interest on past due child support
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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability § Aligning WP:Notability (periodicals), WP:Notability (media), and WP:Notability (academic journals)
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I got an echo, but nothing arrived. Double checked, either it's massively delayed or something is broken. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tried again - let me know if it gets through. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- It arrived. The original also got through, delayed several hours it seems. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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I added this to the York talk page "Was York the first Black American to see the Pacific Northwest?" because during my coast research, I learned that Captain Robert Gray had a Black servant, Marcus Lopez, who was killed when they landed at Tillamook Bay. Lopez was from West Africa's Cape Verde Islands, per O story More interesting though is I found this report: The Unwanted Sailor - Exclusions of Black Sailors in the Pacific Northwest and the Atlantic Southeast (2016 Oregon Historical Society). I thought it might be useful to others who are researching the Black history of Oregon. As I type this I realize there is probably a discussion page where I can share this... Art to Tech (talk) 08:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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Well done lightning presentation
I just stumbled across your "News on Wiki" lightning talk from last year's WCNA, on YouTube . Fantastic talk, clear explanation of the issue and clear call to action. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks Bri! Great to hear this. I've done a number of presentations on this campaign, and it's really helpful to know when one "lands." I'm rewatching this one now, trying to absorb how to make compelling lightning talks in the future. Appreciate the feedback very much. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 22:45, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
for future ref
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Assistance_requested -Pete Forsyth (talk) 17:41, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Traffic report: James Bond and the Giant Squid Game
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- Technology report: Wikimedia Toolhub, winners of the Coolest Tool Award, and more
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- Serendipity: How Wikipedia helped create a Serbian stamp
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- Book review: Wikipedia and the Representation of Reality
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- WikiProject report: Redirection
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- Humour: A very Wiki crossword
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Books & Bytes – Issue 47
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Issue 47, September – October 2021
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- Arbitration report: ArbCom in 2021
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- Serendipity: Born three months before her brother?
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Proposed deletion of Sohappy v. Smith

The article Sohappy v. Smith has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
District Court-level case, citing just the case itself, notability not established with substantive sources
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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Reywas92Talk 23:54, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Also, Pete, you might be interested to see a bunch of Oregon ballot measure stubs were redirected by the same editor. You may not have a problem with this, but figured I'd put on your radar since you worked on ballot measure entries quite a bit, if I remember correctly. Personally, I'd prefer to keep the stubs for future expansion but I'm not going to fight to save them. Happy holidays! ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:32, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ballot measures are not automatically notable and they should not be bulk-created because they happened. Hmmm...several of these have been around with zero independent sources for over a decade, but where's the expansion? Much better to include in the broader list of measures or an annual [Year] [State] elections page if it's just the number of votes received or ballot descriptions. Reywas92Talk 14:48, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Can't say I agree. Hopefully the standalone entries will be expanded some day. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:55, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ballot measures are not automatically notable and they should not be bulk-created because they happened. Hmmm...several of these have been around with zero independent sources for over a decade, but where's the expansion? Much better to include in the broader list of measures or an annual [Year] [State] elections page if it's just the number of votes received or ballot descriptions. Reywas92Talk 14:48, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you both for the notifications. Good PROD, given the state of the article. I was working to improve Sohappy per your comment, and finally noticed that this article is entirely redundant of United States v. Washington (a featured article, no less!) Took me a little research before I understood these suits had been combined. So, it should clearly be redirected after a merge. (I doubt that my additions add much to the FA, but I'd like to take a closer look before making that call.)
Re: the ballot measures, it seems entirely possible some of the articles I created are worthy of redirecting. I haven't revisited that stuff in some time. But I'll take a look, some of them might be easily expandable into standalone articles. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi.
Hi Pete - hope you are well and that you found my reply useful. On an unrelated note, I visted Portland, Oregon, a few years back. I even took a photo of the Moda Center. Happy days! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Lugnuts, thanks for the note, and I hope you enjoyed Oregon. Nice pic, looks like it's in pretty wide use, too! -Pete Forsyth (talk) 21:58, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
More help needed
Rich Fellers had been quiet for a few days—Thanks for interacting with a persistent IP. But all good things seem to end too soon. Alas, do you have time to revdel the problematic edits from diff 1070178415 through 1070209869 please? And can this article be protected against IP edis? Gah. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 09:21, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for keeping an eye on that. I don't see a revdel-level problem with those edits, though. In fact, I don't really see a problem with the at all. I think there's a legitimate editorial question of how much detail and what kind of language to use, among options that are all within the bounds of defamation law. It's unfortunate that this editor seems to be so tendentious, but I don't think that should stop you or the more experienced editors from using the article's talk page to talk through the best approach. Personally, I'm a little more concerned about too much avoiding a charge that was serious to result in four felony counts against him, and further charges against his wife, and get him permanently suspended from the sport he built his career on. I don't think any of those decisions were made lightly, and it seems appropriate to give them a certain amount of consideration, especially considering all the good work you've done to further flesh out his career. But I'm not trying to get into the weeds on this one. I'll keep checking from time to time, and I'm not unwilling to protect or block, but I haven't yet seen anything that makes that seem necessary. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:31, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, meant to also say, I'm glad you did add a new talk page section for talking about the policy and impact aspects. I think you and I might have slightly different views of how to apply those policies, but I absolutely think putting them front-and-center is the best way to get/keep things on track. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:41, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
WP:AFC Helper News
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Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
You're Invited! Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia
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