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Your GA nomination of West Coast Customs

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article West Coast Customs you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sagecandor -- Sagecandor (talk) 21:40, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of West Coast Customs

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Reply to Thanks for your GA review of West Coast Customs

Thanks for taking my suggestions in such great stride ! I'm getting exhausted with some other unrelated stuff on Wikipedia, so I'm not sure if I'll still have the energy when you are next ready for another review attempt. But I sincerely wish you the best of luck, and I thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia !!! Sagecandor (talk) 06:31, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer to help with graphics

Hi! You make much better graphics than I do! I do what I can, which is a leap in the right direction from articles without images. If you want to use any of my images as an inspiration or pattern for graphics of your own, go for it! I'm sure they will be better than mine. You can even save them as the same filename, believe it or not. I discovered that to the surprise of people who host the teahouse. That is, you can download one of my images to your computer. Do what you want with it, probably while saving it as a different filename. Then, when you are done, save it as the same filename I used, and try to upload it. You'll get an error message, something like "there is a file of this name, if you want to ovewrite it, go to the file page. when you go there, you'll find an option to replace, and just do it! You won't really overwrite my image. What happens is that my file is switched to a different, archived, pathname, and your version automatically gets incoporated into whatever page(s) mine were on. Have fun, and good luck! DennisPietras (talk) 16:45, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Smiley

Hello! No jerkiness intended, but I did revert your smiley - my reasoning is that the smiley used formerly was based on the official one created by Harvey Ross Ball, who created the first smiley - the elements that make it special are the "small oval eyes, right larger than left" - "right side of mouth is thicke, larger, and slightly off center" - "bright sunny yellow within a perfect circle". Just wanted you to know why I reverted! Cheers, Garchy (talk) 15:04, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

@Garchy: Is it really though? I'm comparing File:Authentic Worcester-made smiley face, Harvey Ball.jpg and File:Smiley.svg and honestly do not see any similarities. In fact, File:Smiley.svg does not even follow Ball's guidelines, as you can see below:
I humbly request a second opinion from you in light of this new information, and request to undo your revert also. I would say that my image, File:SNice.svg, looks somewhat more similar to Ball's image (and certainly more similar to many other early smilies). Psiĥedelisto (talk) 15:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
You're right - my apologies for the confusion, and now that you've done the comparison I see it. While the one that was previously within the infobox didn't match Ball's perfectly I'm curious if it would be possible for you to create another one that incorporates Ball's criteria? I'll revert back to your new one in the meantime, I'm not sure how hard that would be for you to create another one. Also just realized my revert accidentally lost some other content you had added to the page, apologies! Thanks, Garchy (talk) 15:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Not hard at all, I'm somewhat good with vector graphics editors. One thing that concerns me though, is whether Ball claims copyright on his "authentic" smiley? And also, if his authentic smiley is really the best image we could use as a representation of the topic as a whole, or if an image like File:SNice.svg (itself based on File:SNive.gif) doesn't do a better job as it is reminiscent of the Wal-Mart smiley, 70's T-shirts, etc. Before I read the article I hadn't ever seen Ball's so-called authentic smiley. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this with me (irresistible) Psiĥedelisto (talk) 15:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
@Garchy: I'm sorry, I forgot to ping you before. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 15:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
That's a very fair point - I have a local connection to Harvey Ball so that's most likely why I've heard of him! I think you're right that while his type should be represented it is perhaps not the best location to have it within the infobox - as you brought up, the Walmart smiley may perhaps be more well known than Ball's original! I like your idea to include the one you have in the infobox, and perhaps we can work a more "Ball-esque" one into the body of the article where it is covered - I don't believe Ball has a patent on his design (even the attributes that make it "unique"), but that's something I'll check on first to ensure we don't run into any copyright issues - there is a local museum nearby that has accumulated much of Ball's designs, so they may know whether there is a design patent or not. Garchy (talk) 15:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
@Garchy: OK, let me know what you find out. As a regular image uploader, I know of several ways that we might be able to proceed regardless, especially if my design is not an exact copy of Ball's but just incorporates his criteria for an "authentic" happy face. I believe it may even fall under template commons:Template:PD-shape, because remember, trademark is not copyright: marks that are too simple to be copyrighted can be used as trademarks, and trademarked/patented images are allowed both on Commons and WP. I do agree though, that if I make a Ball-esque Smiley image, I would prefer it be used outside of the infobox. I live in Philippines, but on a visit to USA I did visit a Walmart and that's where my original familiarity came from: in my travels around Asia, I typically see smilies like , or, more recently, emoji, so I think that presents a more modern smiley and is appropriate for the infobox, while Ball's smiley (or a vector graphic based on it) is more appropriate for a history section.
By the way, you should know that improving this article greatly interests me as I like writing articles about complex legal issues and case timelines (see my edits to Miranda warning#Philippines [I made this section] & Section_377A_of_the_Penal_Code_(Singapore)#Constitutional_challenges). The history of the smiley face also intrigues me, I have an open request to WP:Gale (part of the Wikipedia Library) to get journal and newspaper access so I can piece it together. I'd love to collaborate with someone, as all of my work so far has been on topics too obscure for anyone to pitch in much except typo fixes (appreciated always of course ) Psiĥedelisto (talk) 16:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Happy to help! The Worcester Historical Museum houses Harvey Ball's desk and most of his original drawings - there is some contention as to whether Ball was the first person to create the "smiley" (as can be seen on the page), but it seems generally accepted that he was the first person to create what we consider today's "smiley", and the first to use his design for commercial use. I'd be happy to help you locate any additional information given my locality to these sources! Cheers, Garchy (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Deseret alphabet

Hello! Your submission of Deseret alphabet at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:44, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

it's a TULIP not a rose!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to change the caption back to what I had with the AA compliant colors. Jeez, can't a guy have some fun? DennisPietras (talk) 10:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@DennisPietras: 😂 😂 😂 😂 OK, yeah, that was really dumb on my part. Can you believe they trust me to write pages here? Psiĥedelisto (talk) 11:02, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Hey, everybody is entitled to a brain cramp occassionally. I had one when I made an image for the commons, and they tell me that they won't delete it, so MY brain cramp is going to exist forever! DennisPietras (talk) 11:30, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Mistake at 2017 jallikattu protest page

At time line column. "Protestor also are aggrieved at the fact the the State" It contains 2 the before State..

Dheva.1X (talk) 06:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thank you for your help ;) I appreciated it!! Songuitar333 (talk) 01:35, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome Psiĥedelisto (talk) 03:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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