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Hello everyone, and welcome to the 24th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 24 December 2021. Uh-huh, we're finally covering the good ones among the rest! Aren't you excited? Remember to include a link in double brackets to the script's .js page when you install the script, so that we can see who uses the script in WhatLinksHere! The ScriptInstaller gadget automatically does this. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
Featured script
Making user scripts load faster by SD0001 is this month's featured script, which caches userscripts every day to eliminate the overhead caused by force-downloading the newest version of scripts every time you open a Wikipedia page. Despite being released in April 2021, our best script scouters have failed to locate it due to its omission from the US of L. For security reasons, the script only supports loading JavaScript pages.
Newly maintained scripts
After earthly attempts at improving the original have failed...
Ahecht has created a fork of SiBr4/TemplateSearch, which adds the "TP:" shortcut for "Template:" in the search box, and updated it to be compatible with Vector 2022.
AquilaFasciata/goToTopFast is a much faster fork of the classic goToTop script that also adds compatibility for Minerva and Vector 2022.
Without caching. Each script takes 400–500ms. A particularly large script takes 1.11 s! Internet download speed is 50 Mbps.With caching enabled. Each script takes just 1-2 ms to load.
Improve a script
Unfortunately, this section has remained nearly identical. Help us out here!
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Dragoniez/SuppressEnterInForm stops you from accidentally submitting anything due to pressing enter while in the smaller box, and works on almost anything... except the InputBox element itself, used in subscription lists and the Signpost Crossword! Oh, the humanity!
Doǵu/Adiutor(pictured) provides a nice, integrated interface to do some twinkley tasks such as copyvio detection, CSD tagging, and viewing the most recent diff.
Eejit43 has quite the aesthetically pleasing scripts, all made in TypeScript.
/afcrc-helper is a replacement for the unmaintained Enterprisey/AFCRHS and processes Redirects for Creation and Categories for Creation requests.
/ajax-undo stops the "undo" button from taking you to another page while providing a text box to provide a reason for the revert.
/redirect-helper(pictured) adds a much better interface for editing and redirects, including categorization, for which valid categories are dictated by /redirect-helper.json.
/rmtr-helper helps process technical requested moves without being able to actually move them.
Guycn2/UserInfoPopup(pictured) adds a flyout after the watchlist star on userspace pages that displays the common information you might use about a user.
Jeeputer/editCounter, under userspace, adds a portlet link to count your edits by namespace, put them in a table, and put that table in a hardcoded subpage, all in the background.
Hilst/Scripts/sectionLinks converts all section links to use the § sign, which are known to be preferred over the ugly # by 99% of the devils I've met.
PrimeHunter/Category source.js adds portlet links to tell you where a category for an article comes from and supports those from template transclusions.
Sophivorus's MiniEdit adds some nice, li'l buttons next to paragraphs to edit their wikitext with a minimal interface.
Edit-listings
Dragoniez/ToollinkTweaks adds more and customizable links next to users in page history, logs, watchlist, recent changes, etc.
Firefly/more-block-info optimizes the display of rangeblocks in contribution pages. Doesn't work outside the English locale of any wiki, unfortunately.
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AjaxLoader makes paging links (e.g. older 50, 500, newest) load without refreshing and makes you realize how slow your internet actually is.
Appearance-ricing
Ahecht/RedirectID adds the redirect target to all redirects. For all the WP:NAVPOPS haters. (Do these exist?)
Dragoniez/MarkBLockedGlobal: Remember the "strike blocked usernames" gadget? Now you can use a red, dotted line to highlight rangeblocks and global locks!
Jonesey/common(pictured) has some styles to overhaul your Vector 2022 experience. It reduces padding everywhere, and makes the top bar animation faster.
Aaron Liu/V22 is a fork that narrows the sidebars instead of upheaving them, reverts the January 2024 dropdown changes, and restores the old page-link color for links that don't go outside the current wiki.
Nardog: SmartDiff is a spiritual successor to Enterprisey/fancy-diffs. It makes the page title part of links in diffs clickable, along with template and parser function calls. Unnamed parameters can be configured per template to also be linked. All links are styled based on the normal CSS classes of rendered links.
For the paranoid: Rublov/anonymize replaces your username at the top of the screen with the generic "User page" text. Remember, it is your duty to persuade everyone that editing is an honor.
/AjaxBlock provides a dialog box for easy input of reasons while blocking users.
/Selective Rollback(pictured) provides a dialog box to customize rollback edit summaries and does them without reloading the page. Seriously, why doesn't MediaWiki already do this?
/flickrsearch adds a portlet link to search for uploadable flickr images about the subject.
/randomincategory adds a portlet link when on Category pages to go to a random page in the current category.
Vghfr/EasyTemplates adds a portlet link to automatically insert some of the most common inline {{fix}} templates.
Yes, we're just doing 'em as we go now. Thanks for reading through this looong issue, if you did! I'm sure this'll send a record for the longest issue ev-ah. You may need to wait even longer for the last issue, as our reserve of old-y and goodie scripts have ran out... We encourage you to try and do some of the requests or improvement tasks. See you in Summer, hopefully!
The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
Arbitration
An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
Miscellaneous
Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Was not a debut for Bearman at the KSA GP as was a debut for De Vries, Piastri, and Sargeant at the BHR 2023? That's why I put that prose as per 2023... Island92 (talk) 17:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
@Island92: De Vries, Piastri and Sargeant all participated in FP1 and FP2 at the 2023 Bahrain Grand Prix. Bearman did not partcipate in FP1 or FP2. Looking at the sporting regs sourced at 2024 Formula One World Championship#Free practice drivers,[1] the mandated use of free practice drivers is specified in section 32.4 (which is about the general use of third drivers in practice section, with paragraph c specifing that "rookies" must be used twice). It specifies that third drivers are for FP1 and FP2. Therefore Bearman does not count towards Ferrari satisfing article 32.4 c as Bearman did not participate in FP1 or FP2. SSSB (talk) 18:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Understood. Do I have to remove the prose then? Island92 (talk) 18:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Unless you can find a source, it has to go whether you agree with me or not, because it is original researchSSSB (talk) 19:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Ok. IP removed. Island92 (talk) 19:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
WikiConference report: WikiConference North America 2023 in Toronto recap Outcomes of the event including newly published videos and photos, the archived conference website and program, and some attendee reflections on its significance.
Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
hello sssb i want you to create an article about the nantahala hyperspeedway in the state of north Carolina It could be a Circuit that is formula one ready and Also create another article about the fort peck hyperspeedway in the state of montana!!! 149.74.4.35 (talk) 12:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I know it was probably an accident, but maybe be more careful not to refer to an user as he on a noticeboard discussion where the behaviour being reported is them repeatedly removing someone's comment referring to said user as he. –2804:F14:8085:6201:6014:787:F7A8:B566 (talk) 21:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
I was careful, but I am still in the habit of using "he" where gender is unspecified (which is grammatical acceptable in English: "used to refer to a person whose gender is not known or not important in that situation") and I made a mistake, which happens. SSSB (talk) 02:55, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Formula One
Thanks for fixing my blunder. I meant to put the cn at the end of the first paragraph in the Formula One#Race section. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 19:52, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi
Just wanted to notify you of this, seems you were active on similar discussions and AfDs but the Lewis Hamilton win list and other such lists are proposed for deletion.
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Lewis Hamilton 159.242.125.170 (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
A major issue with the page Ezhava and a very recently formed page Tiyyar
Hi @SSSB
I have seen that you have edited the page Ezhava and related issues with that . from the records it is clear that almost all editors coniders ezhavas and thiyyas as synonymous and both are redirected to each other. I saw that a year back when such an issue came you took similar stance , I just checked the archieves and find out this , --> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ezhava&oldid=1031793980 however after violating this a new page has been created few days back , the page contradicts almost any thing the main page says and went to claim that thiyyas are a separate ethnicity . However the main page says that it is the same . Quoting from the main page Ezhava --> They are also known as Ilhava, Irava, Izhava and Erava in the south of the region; as Chovas, Chokons and Chogons in Central Travancore; and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region. This is from the section variations from the main page ezhava.
The problem is since these both are included together it would require to split like the entire pages , if it is separate . I have checked the past edits and archieves and the main admins had made it clear that both are same . It would require splitting up the page "Ezhava" too . Else it is like creating 10. 20 pages with the same name. Also thiyyas are being counted as a separate ethnicity in the page tiyyar in most of the cases including the govt records the name is thiyya , so like it is extra confusion. All the details are well discussed in the main page ezhava. the current page tiyyar even discusses , genetics like indo aryans etc, is a mere news article enough enough for this claims ?? the article claims things like separate dialect for thiyya. I mean how can this be in an ecyclopedia even a news article wont say this?? Can u please check into this? I think if it is separate the entire page need to be splitted up? What do u think? PN - I am a major reader of these topics since years and i genuinely think that its creating confusion . I had already intiated a session too can you please look into this? Lisa121996 (talk) 04:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
@Lisa121996: this appears to have sorted itself out. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. However, as you may have noticed, I am no longer active on this area of Wikipedia. In future, it may therefore be better for you to direct your concerns to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India to garner more attention and better experts. SSSB (talk) 08:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Lewis Hamilton records
Re the above
I think you are being discriminate about which records you "choose" to see as trivia. For instance, most pitstops by a winning driver (for Verstappen) could be deemed trivia so why are you not removing that? I'm not going to revert your edit because i don't want to get banned re 3 revert rule, so i'll leave things as they are for now. Koppite1 (talk) 21:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
To comment on your first sentence, I am covering that at the appropriate talk page. To answer your second sentence, because I didn't know that "stat" existed. To comment on your final sentence, you shouldn't revert my edit becuase the article is currently your prefered version without your "compromise". SSSB (talk) 21:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
@Koppite1: my final point is really one you need to be aware of, because your comment suggests you missed the point of my last edit to the relevant page.21:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Top 25
Please look again at the Top 25 Report you just reverted. ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter made a list of his favourite UK political stories and replaced the real Top 25 with his list. Surely that isn't acceptable. 63.226.202.30 (talk) 07:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Yes. My bad. Self-reverted. My apologies. I didnt check the edit properly SSSB (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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The reason does make it sense. Source displays numbers held under FIA rule, not overall time held, per the prose. You have to go to Hungarian Grand Prix specifically to read total numbers held. Island92 (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
@Island92: your reason makes sense now that youve actually mentioned that it is a sourcing issue. Next time, why don't you actually use the word "source" in your edit summary. Instead of leavong no summary at all (like the first time). Or a summary that doesn't make sense (because the FIA don't "rule" anything, the edit didn't make any claims about the Fia being the governing body, and your summary didn't mention the source or lack thereof). Honestly, your lack of a coherent edit summary is starting to become a Wikipedia:Competence is required issue. SSSB (talk) 13:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
I was from mobile version and I wanted to make it quick. I'll take note of that next time, by explaining my edit summary much better. "Only part of FIA rule" meant to me under FIA scrutiny (and only to me obvious, as you did not get it), seeing that Stats F1.com counts only the editions under FIA scrutiny (2024 FIA Formula One World Championship Belgian Grand Prix, for example), that is running its 69th edition, not the "Belgian Grand Prix", who has reached the 80th edition of running. Regards. Island92 (talk) 15:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
@Island92: it's FIA governance, not rule or scrutiny. StatsF1 does not count events under FIa scrutiny, it counts Formula One Championship events. Stats F1 does this because its StatsF1, so it counts F1 events. If you look at the name of 2023 Belgian Grand Prix it is listed as the "Spa-Francorchamps". LXXIX Grand Prix de Belgique" LXXIX is roman numeral for 79. It lists it as the 79th Belgian Grand Prix. Likewise the Roman numerals at the StatsF1 page for the 2024 Hungarian Grand Prix identifies it as the 40th edition. SSSB (talk) 15:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I forgot that. Island92 (talk) 16:19, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 25
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
After the ＲＩＩＪ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Newly maintained scripts
Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
can you add this photo beside the section Legacy-> All Religions' Conference in the article Narayana Guru
Sree Narayana Guru with leaders of different religions during all-religion meet . A photo taken during the all-religion meet at Aluva in 1924.Aparamoorthy (talk) 14:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
@Aparamoorthy: you know you can add it? Just use the exact same code as you did here. Otherwise please make an edit request at Talk:Narayana GuruSSSB (talk) 18:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
It is protected, that’s why Aparamoorthy (talk) 18:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
In which case you need to make an edit request at Talk:Narayana Guru. An editor who can edit the page will review your request in due course. Please do not ask other editors directly to implement an edit request on a page, espically as I am not a contributor to the article. SSSB (talk) 19:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for merger of Template:F1 driver results legend 5
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Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
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Yes, I was just reaching that conclusion myself. (In case you hadn't already noticed), they have also been editing Wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle again. SSSB (talk) 15:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
Happy First Edit Day! Hi SSSB! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 19:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hi SSSB, I saw that you reverted my edits on Formula One drivers from East Germany and Formula One drivers from Rhodesia for improper use of boldface. I understand why I was reverted since it wasn't proper use within the MOS; however, the following nationality articles all use boldface in the same manner to show former drivers. Should these have boldface removed, or is there another criteria that allows them to be there?
@GalacticVelocity08: as far as I'm concerned, they should be removed. It only exists there to draw emphasis and not only does it look strange it is pointless. It is quite obvious when your reading it that those are the names. SSSB (talk) 21:30, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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thanks for catching that
I appear to have edited the section headings on Alex Albon without bothering to read enough first. feel free to whack me with a wet trout if that happens again Sandcat555 (talk) 20:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.
Hey man I wanted to thank you for being a good editor, I was somewhat worried we'd enter a editwar (I don't engage anymore, but it doesn't any less frustrating) as I've encountered other... well maybe not so good editors (albeit it was long ago lol). Cheers m8 Remi1771 (talk) 13:14, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the 26th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 August 2024. At press time, over 94% of the world has legally fallen prey to the merry celebrations of "Christmas", and so shall you soon. It's been a quiet 4 months, and we hope to see you with way more new scripts next year. Happy holidays! Aaron Liu (talk) 05:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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Featured script
Very useful for changelist patrollers, DiffUndo, by Nardog, is this edition's featured script. Taking inspiration from WP:AutoWikiBrowser's double-click-to-undo feature, it adds an undo button to every line of every diff from "show changes", optimizing partial reverts with your favorite magic spell and nearly fulfilling m:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Partial revert undo.
Miscellaneous
Doğu/Adiutor, a recent WP:Twinkle/WP:RedWarn-like userscript that follows modern WMF UI design, is now an extension. However, its sole maintainer has left the project, which still awaits WMF mw:code stewardship (among some audits) to be installed on your favorite WMF wikis.
DannyS712, our former chief editor, has ascended to MediaWiki and the greener purpley pastures of PHP with commits creating Special:NamespaceInfo and the __EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__ magic word to exclude a template from Special:UnusedTemplates! I wonder if Wikipedia has a templaters' newsletter...
BilledMammal/Move+ needs updating to order list of pages handle lists of pages to move correctly regardless of the discussion's page, so that we may avoid repeating fiasco history.
Andrybak/Unsigned helper forks Anomie/unsignedhelper to add support for binary search, automatic edit summaries after generating the {{unsigned}} template, support for {{undated}}, and support for generating while syntax highlighting is on.
Polygnotus/Move+ updates BilledMammal's classic Move+ to add automattic watchlisting of all pages—except the target page(s)—changed while processing a move.
A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
Technical news
The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.
This edit of yours introduced a DEFAULTSORT conflict with the banner shell's |listas=San Marino Grand Prix 2001. The article uses "San Marino Grand Prix" on two of its four categories, so I have no idea how to fix this. Paradoctor (talk) 01:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
I fixed it. There is no reason for the article to be using a listas parameter different to the article title. So I have changed this for all the San Marino Grand Prix where this is an issue (we don't do it for any other F1 race report, it is a pointless endevour SSSB (talk) 08:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Discussion closures?
Hello - I'm curious and come in good faith. Could you explain to me how consensus and precedent work on Wikipedia? My understanding was that once the RB-Racing Bulls discussion was closed, it's done, but your and @Tvx1's statements today suggest that you're going to keep fighting until the bitter end. If so, I'd like to learn about two areas:
1) How much does a close stick? Do you have to specifically request an RfC closure review or can you simply open a new discussion on the same topic on the same talk page? If the latter, are there specific policies guiding when that should happen? Does it make a difference that a non-admin closed the RB discussion?
2) Are closes ever precedential? Or do we just have to repeat the same argument on every page until one side gets tired and gives up?
Thanks for your consideration. Namelessposter (talk) 00:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
A discussion is not a fight. Please see WP:BATTLEGROUND. It's not about winning or losing for us. The only thing we care about is to accurately representant facts. What the sources tell us always has precedence. A Wikipedia consensus can never allow to state things that contradict actual facts as supported by reliable sources. Such a close as this one typically sticks as long as no facts develop that make it untenable. That it wasn't closed by an administrator doesn't matter. Consensus can change, so a new discussion always can simply be started on the article's talk page. Closure review is generally only asked for it the closure does not accurately reflect the discussion's consensus. Tvx1 01:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
@Namelessposter: as you've posted on my talk page, it seems only fair that I respond, although I will be echoing a lot of what Tvx1 has said.
I am not "fighting" anything "to the bitter end". If I were, I would have raised something at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and/or I would have challeneged the close (that's not too say that anyone doing these things is "fighting to the bitter end". There are plenty of legitimate reasons to use these processes, otherwise they wouldn't exist) and/or I might be doing something else. I was merely pointing out that I did not agree with the consensus that was estalished. And I was only pointing that out because it was directly relevant. It was not an attempt to argue for a reversal, nor reignite the debate.
A close "sticks" until a new consensus is established (through discussion) or something happens that makes the original discussion obviously invalid. This would usually be because something has come to light that means the consensus established obviously violates one of wikipedia's other policies (WP:V or WP:NPOV, for example). Any uninvolved editor in good standing can close any discussion. I could go to any move discussion where I have not offered an opinion and close it, for example.
Discussions could be seen as precedential if the outcome is obvious. Either because only one potential outcome follows WP:V or WP:NPOV etc. Or because it is a case of Wikipedia:Snowball clause. Or because a consensus was recently determined and nothing has changed (for example if I reopened the RB -> Racing Bulls discussion) which would be a specific type of Wikipedia:Snowball clause closure (it would obsured to think that the consensus would have changed in such a short time).
But of course, consensus can change. In eight weeks time (when we are two races into the season) it may be obvious that RB and Racing Bulls are considered seperate organisations by the FIA, in which the consensus could be that RB and Racing Bulls should be covered in two seperate articles. We will probably know before then.
Simply put, if I tried to argue consistently and continually against a fairly clear consensus I would not only be Wikipedia:Beating a dead horse, I would also be being very WP:DISRUPTIVE and asking for a block. But I wasn't doing that, I was merely re-expressing an opinion where it was directly relevant. And I think it is a perfectly valid opinion as we have no clear informaton either way.
Thanks to both you and @Tvx1 for your insightful comments. I appreciate your efforts to show me the ropes. This was quite helpful. I should note that "fighting to the bitter end" isn't a pejorative term to me, but I'm guessing it is on Wikipedia? If so, I'll try to be more judicious about using that phrase around here. (I specifically pinged you on talk because I didn't want to start unnecessary drama on the project page, and I certainly apologize if my statement caused any distress.) Namelessposter (talk) 16:20, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
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