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But where do we start? URDNEXT (talk) 02:06, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, I actually don't think there's too much more to go. There's some incorrect citation formatting (e.g. it should be Computer and Video Games [or non-italicized], not Computerandvideogames.com; there's at least one use of "Eurogamer.net"). I don't know offhand if they're recognized at WP:VG/RS, but some sources look questionable, like Metro, Techspot.com, ingame.de, and MCV Pacific. And the sections for the three individual expansions could use more real-world information. But I think those are the main ones. Tezero (talk) 03:03, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I'll take on the lead, infobox, expannd the controversy section, and maybe development. What do you think? URDNEXT (talk) 11:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

@Czar To be honest, I'm a little worried that the article will quick fail because some of the sentences are copy pasted from Grand Theft Auto V, and IV. Here's the review CRA4ZE did sometime ago when I nominated the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sleeping_Dogs_(video_game)/GA1 He has some points that we haven't adressed in the article yet. URDNEXT (talk) 11:45, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh, shoot, URDNEXT, I'd forgotten all about that. Is there some kind of plagiarism checker we can run the three pages through? Tezero (talk) 14:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Dupdet does two at a time. Text copied from another article is fine (cc-by-sa) as long as you cite the revision # whence the text came (attribution). czar ♔ 15:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

So, what now? @Czar @Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 15:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

It's easier to coordinate at the talk page so the notes are in one place, for posterity czar ♔ 15:37, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hey Tezero, how's it going? I was reading some stuff online and stumbled upon this short film that I thought you might like! The link is on vimeo, so give it a chance and I'm sure you're gonna like it. See ya, URDNEXT (talk) 22:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, thanks for thinking of me! I've only listened to Neon Bible, so I may not get this, but I'll try to give it a shot anyway. Tezero (talk) 01:38, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Tezero No problem, man. You're one of the first people who treated me well when I first got on the site, so I'm here if you need me. About the video, The Suburbs is Arcade Fire's Ok Computer. You're gonna love it. It's a lot more relatable than Neon too. URDNEXT (talk) 01:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Also, tell me what you think of it afterrwards! URDNEXT (talk) 01:57, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Stop encouraging another editor to violate their editing restrictions. If your advice is followed is will lead to sanctions against them (which is an undesirable outcome), and this is considered disruptive editing which can also lead to sanctions against you. Plainly said: it's in nobody's best interest. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 01:05, 20 August 2014 (UTC) −

Yes, especially since she's taken your bad advice in the past, and then taken it in an even worse direction. Sergecross73 msg me 01:08, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Sergecross73, since my statement was this controversial I don't plan to replicate it, because I don't want to get banned or cause unnecessary stirs. That being said, why was my recommendation that she ask her WikiProjects' members to chime in on her AN "bad advice" if Salvidrim just changed her wording of it, upholding the basic format? You and he seem to get along pretty well. Tezero (talk) 04:19, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I still think asking the WikiProjects for support was not a good idea, but there was warring over the notifications and I didn't feel like warring so I caved in and let the notifications happen, at the very least making sure they were neutrally-worded. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 04:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Ye, that's pretty much exactly what I would have answered. Sergecross73 msg me 10:32, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm currently rewriting the development sections, and thought it would be a good idea to consult with you on some of the progree I made. The first paragraph is:

The development of Sleeping Dogs began in 2008, a couple of months after its developer, United Front Games was founded. Initially conducted by a team of over 180 people, the game was originally designed as a new IP codenamed, "Black Lotus". It was set to feature a female protagonist modelled after actress Lucy Liu, and would tell the story of an undercover cop infiltrated in the Triads.

What do you think? URDNEXT (talk) 20:51, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

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We need a new caption for File:Leerooy Jenkinsss.jpg! Also, do you want to take this to FA after the review? URDNEXT (talk) 01:42, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm fine with FAC after the review, URDNEXT, but I have one more FAC I'm about to put up tonight, so either nominate it for FA yourself with me as a major contributor, or we can just wait until this one's done.

Also, for future reference, fair-use images are prohibited anywhere on Wikipedia outside the articles they're licensed for. I think it's totally silly (I can't think of a single incident where someone who's known about their work being licensed for use on Wikipedia has cared, and if they did I think they'd demand it be removed altogether rather than just comply to "fair use", but whatever), but it's the rules. You can link to a file rather than embedding it by inserting a colon, like this: [[:File:Leerooy Jenkinsss.jpg]]

But what's wrong with the current caption? Tezero (talk) 01:51, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

It's copy paste from Grand Theft Auto V. Also, I'll nominate the article, just in a couple of weeks so we can have a little break from the article. That way it doesn't get boring and forced. URDNEXT (talk) 01:53, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I was reading the previous GA review for Sleeping Dogs, and noticed how CR4ZE talked about how the references are missing authors and the CVG/Computer and Video Games/ComputerAndVideoGames.com thing. Do you think the refs are fine now? URDNEXT (talk) 18:27, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, I've just realized the date format's still inconsistent and many of them are missing authors, though I think the CVG issue's been all fixed. None of this should cause a quickfail, but it should still be done. Tezero (talk) 18:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Agree. Half Life 3 confirmed (talk) 19:07, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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Is everything alright? I just saw that you said you had PTSD, so I got worried. PTSD is a very versious problem that should be treated as soon as possible. Can you can tell me what happened? Did someone you know die, or something? URDNEXT (talk) 02:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, it's not about anyone's death. About three months ago, one of my friends gave me a marijuana joint and I... must've inhaled too hard or something, because after about five seconds of relaxation I was in for what amounted to almost a full day of paranoid delusions. Nothing felt real and in-the-moment, but rather like my memory and sanity were being erased deliberately by a world that was ganging up on me and preparing to torture me for eternity. I was immensely relieved when it finally began to subside, but about a week later I had an attack lasting about an hour while in a waiting room for jury duty (we never got called), I had another one about two weeks ago while parked near a library, and I just had another while packing for college. It's difficult for me to write about this, as it can pounce back on me at any moment and then I feel completely helpless and insane, but it tends to be triggered by thinking about realizing that one is losing one's grip on reality in any form. Thanks for your concern; it helps to know that someone cares and can keep me on earth because part of the primal fear that engulfs me during each attack is that no one is really there at all. Tezero (talk) 02:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

I used to have Anxiety attacks. When I had my first attack, I didn't know what anxiety attacks were, so I thought I was dying. It felt like I couldn't breath, swallow saliva, and think about stuff. But the catch is, most of these anxiety, depression, and post tramatic attacks happen because of a subconscious fear that you haven't taken care of, or in your case, a trauma. I found out that the anxiety attacks I used to have were caused because I was too worried about the deadline I had for turning in a couple of songs for a demo I was recording. Becaus of this, I spent the last 6 months procratinating, living with my parents, without making any progress on the demo. I didn't really know what to do with my life. It wasn't till last month that I got serious about my job, and started really working on it. I had to force myself to work as apparently, my body doesn't want to. I noticed that after I asked myself what the problem was, and started working it out, things got a lot better. I stopped having nightmares last week, something I had everyday since November last year. What you need to do is just what I did, ask yourself ehat could have caused this, seek help, or just try to solve it by yourself if it's possible. It sounds simple, but it works. Also, don't forget that there are a lot of people who care about you, and you're not alone in the world. You aren't the first guy in the world that had this, and you probaly won't be the last, unfortunetely. I hate quoting movie lines a lot, but this one just reminds me of this situation. "We can either stay in this dark place, or we can climb out of hell, one inch at a time. Pain is temporary, but glory/happyness lasts forever." Remember this. URDNEXT (talk) 03:19, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Also, I don't want to sound like a teacher, but AVOID DRUGS completely, as they can destroy your life. I know a lot of people whose lifes were destroyed because of drugs, and I don't want you to be one of them. I know college has a lot of this stuff, but I garentee the sooner you take care of this, the less you suffer later in life. Please do this, I want you to be happy, and drugs aren't gonna do anything about it, as they only give you short term pleasure, something you could get for free eating food, playing videogames, or something else. And I don't wanna judge anyone, but stay away from the people in your life who do drugs, because by hanging out with people, you end up getting some of their habbits for yourself. And if you stay aways from them, and they start calling you a fool/fag/or whatever for rejecting using drugs, then they're not your true friends. Exclude all the bad influences in your life, and only keep the good ones. That's how you have a happy life. URDNEXT (talk) 03:29, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh, believe me, URDNEXT, I have learned my lesson. It's just that that doesn't mean it'll go away. I know what my fear is when each of them starts: it's that I'm going insane. The problem is that I can't even think about it without just exacerbating the problem, and not thinking about it is difficult as the anxiety hormones are still there, reminding me of what caused them. Tezero (talk) 04:07, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

• Have you tried anxiety pills? I have a friend who took them and stopped having attacks after a week. URDNEXT (talk) 12:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Sonic: After the Sequel. LittleMountain5 21:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Great work! LittleMountain5 21:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations, Tezero! This is huge for you! URDNEXT (talk) 21:32, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, URDNEXT! It's nice to get something like this when I haven't gotten any GAs or FAs in a while. Tezero (talk) 22:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

No problem, also here's another medal for you! URDNEXT (talk) 22:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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• *cringes hard enough to age thirty years* Since when, TonyTheTiger? Tezero (talk) 04:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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URDNEXT (talk) 22:07, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

It could reasonably be a GA, though I think it needs more reception yet. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 04:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

New Age Retro Hippie, unfortunately I'm not finding anything not already there other than whatever sweet subjectivity can be sapped from these IGN articles. Which... isn't necessarily an obstacle. We're only required to summarize what's there. Hell, one page I started got to FA without a single "real" review. Tezero (talk) 05:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Our project's articles are weird like that, isn't it? GamerPro64 01:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Tezero- I see you're intrested in Constructed Languages. I wonder if you could help me find references for the Wikipedia article on the Occidental language. I particularly am looking for source to the assertion that the Occidental language became insignifigant with the rise of Interlingua. :) Naytz (talk) 21:26, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Naytz, would either of these help? 1 2 Tezero (talk) 03:48, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

I have the feeling that Snugums is gona pick on the demo paragraoh in marketing release, which is missing a lot of information. I'm currently tackling other parts of the article, so I was wondering if you could expand the paragraph. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 22:31, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, after a quick search I didn't find anything additional to say about it; there usually isn't. Is it even worth mentioning? Many, many games released on Steam have demos. If so, surely it could go into an existent paragraph. Tezero (talk) 04:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll just remove it. NEXT (talk) 09:50, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.

Misrepresenting sources also counts as such. 174.19.209.252 (talk) 20:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

174.19.209.252, if you'll look at the source, you'll see that the content attributed is there: "Cell phone, for example, has a few interpretations. Some interpret it as "the thing you hold up to your ear, others, "the thing you run around and around with," and others, "the thing you run up to the top of the hill with," referring to the all too common bad reception on the reservation." If you feel this doesn't represent the source, tell me why or reword it yourself, but it's an act of vandalism to remove cited content without justification. Tezero (talk) 20:36, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Quit your racist assumptions!!! 174.19.209.252 (talk) 20:39, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

What in God's name are you talking about, 174.19.209.252? The fact that the Navajo language has no single word for "cell phone" doesn't mean they're primitive; their language hasn't had wide enough recognition since cell phones have come about to develop a natural word for it. Tezero (talk) 20:41, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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174.19.209.252, 3RRing is for a single edit or piece of content; my reverts have been for several pieces of content that you've removed or designated unacceptable without reason other than ad-hominems. Tezero (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

It's also in pretty bad taste/frowned upon to warn people of edit warring when you're the only other person reverting all of the edits, IP. Sergecross73 msg me 21:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Is everything alright? I was worried that you might have gotten blocked. NEXT (talk) 23:11, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it's fine. An IP kept removing text from the Navajo language article that they felt (incorrectly, I think) was racist under the pretense that (incorrectly, I know) it was uncited. The IP also left standard warning messages on this page for my reverting actions, despite the fact that they did not violate 3RR and were not vandalism. Serge, luckily, gets it. Tezero (talk) 23:19, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

So, that means sarges message was towards you or the other guy? NEXT (talk) 23:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Other. Tezero (talk) 23:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. Yeah, the bogus warning was from the IP, and I was talking to the IP, not Tezero. (Ironically, URDNEXT's section title for this section initially made me think Tezero hadn't gotten blocked over that stuff or something.) Sergecross73 msg me 01:23, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh, alright then! In other news, do you think the Dogs review will take long? NEXT (talk) 23:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

It depends on when the reviewer gets back, URDNEXT. I really couldn't say. Tezero (talk) 23:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by gets back? Is he on vacation or something? URDNEXT (talk) 23:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, when SNUGGUMS gets back to the article, URDNEXT. (I just accidentally visited the old GAN and almost had a heart attack.) Tezero (talk) 23:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Really? Why? Was it that bad? URDNEXT (talk) 23:36, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

The article Sleeping Dogs (video game) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Sleeping Dogs (video game) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SNUGGUMS -- SNUGGUMS (talk) 04:01, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Tezero! I wanted to see if you could handle the date format problems for me, since as I'm editing on my tablet, I can't open most references to change them. Most of the references are like <ref name="AutoQB-9"/>, which I'm not able to open. URDNEXT (talk) 17:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, I'm on my iPod and can't edit anything but the smallest sections because it always crashes. I'm gonna fix them up when I get back to my laptop, though. Tezero (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Alright! I fixed all the remaining issues except for the references. URDNEXT (talk) 19:48, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

The article Sleeping Dogs (video game) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sleeping Dogs (video game) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SNUGGUMS -- SNUGGUMS (talk) 03:02, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

WP:TFA/R is taking nominations for dates through October 14 at the moment, so I removed your nomination. You can add the nomination back later when your proposed date falls in the current range of dates being considered. Imzadi 1979 → 03:54, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, Imzadi1979, I hadn't noticed. When do you estimate that date will be, though? I wanna pounce. Tezero (talk) 03:56, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't know. Bencherlite advances the date range based on how his scheduling goes. Imzadi 1979 → 03:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Alright, Imzadi1979, do you think coming back around Halloween would be a good benchmark? (Not a commitment; I'm just genuinely wondering.) Tezero (talk) 04:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Through the magic of templates, the date range for TFAR automatically covers the next 30 unscheduled days. I generally schedule about 2 to 3 weeks ahead, so you'll probably be able to put up your nomination sometime in early October. In the meantime, you can add it to WP:TFARP as an aide-memoire. Bencherlite^Talk 10:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

We did it, Tezero! Dgs passed GA and I couldn't get any happier! We have to do this more often. URDNEXT (talk) 09:34, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Do you wanna collaborate again? I have two options that we can tackle, 1001 Spikes which is a really easy GA, or Super Mario Bros. 3 which all it needs for becoming a FA are the reception format, gameplay issues, and copy editing. URDNEXT (talk) 14:45, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Sure, URDNEXT, I'd like to. Not to negate your options if you'd prefer those, but I was wondering if you'd rather do Super Mario Land or Super Paper Mario - massively multiplatform games can be deceptively difficult to work with, and SMB3, while still improvable, is already a GA and thus probably accessible to the majority of readers. Just a thought. Tezero (talk) 15:04, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I prefer SMB3 for two reasons. One is because the previous editor tried to take the article to FA last year, and failed. Oh yeah, and the dude retired from the site. I kinda took over the article to finish what the other guy tried to do. And because I really wanna have an FA. URDNEXT (talk) 15:08, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

What do you say? URDNEXT (talk) 15:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Why not Sleeping Dogs as our FA? You already have that undergoing a PR. Tezero (talk) 15:14, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

It would kinda take too long as I'd have to re write the entire development section, change up all the images and copy edit the entire thing. But if you can help me with my draft for develoment, I'll do it. URDNEXT (talk) 15:21, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

So, what's up! How have things been going? URDNEXT (talk) 20:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Alright. I really need to get around to rewriting the grammar sections of my two language articles, which I don't want to do because it's tedious as balls, but I've also never had a GAN failed before and don't want to start now. On the bright side, my parents have recently gotten off my case about an academic issue and I can finally get reasonably excited about the rest of this semester. And tonight I'm probably gonna be showing my two best friends at college the glory that is The Room (or Troll 2; we haven't decided). Tezero (talk) 21:29, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I recommend either Leprechaun: In the Hood or Leprechaun 4: In Space, two american classics from our times. URDNEXT (talk) 22:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Also, just to mention, I updated the image used in reception for Sleeping Dogs. How do you think it looks? URDNEXT (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I like it. I will say, though, that the resolution of the images has to be reduced to comply with fair-use guidelines. Cut each one to about 50% of its current width and height. Tezero (talk) 23:16, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Just placed a tag for the pic; as I told you before, I browse on my tablet, so I can't edit the sizes of images. URDNEXT (talk) 23:21, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Sonic: After the Sequel to FA status recently. If you would like to see this (or any other FA) appear as "Today's featured article" soon (either on a particular date or on any available date), please nominate it at the requests page. If you'd like to see an FA appear on a particular date in the next year or so, please add it to the "pending" list. In the absence of a request, the article may end up being picked at any time (although with about 1,302 articles waiting their turn at present, there's no telling how long – or short! – the wait might be). If you'd got any TFA-related questions or problems, please let me know. Bencherlite^Talk 13:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

So I can start working on it by the end of the week. What do you day? URDNEXT (talk) 22:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Go ahead, URDNEXT. I'll stop by every so often. Tezero (talk) 22:32, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Great. What we really need, and I'm not sure if you could take care of this, is take a look at the links Blackwing gave me a while ago to gather information for the reception section from back when the game was released. URDNEXT (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a Highbeam account, so I can't view them. I think czar might, though. Tezero (talk) 22:42, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I do—it's kind of peripheral coverage, not the main reviews czar ♔ 22:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Will it work though? @Czar URDNEXT (talk) 22:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) czar, since you're here and Highbeam is the topic of the hour, what's "incorrect" about the Highbeam citation in Sonic X? I may have turned you off with all of those tags back then, but complaints need to be actionable. Tezero (talk) 22:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

It's a start. Not sure if it's sufficient until I add all of it. My Labor Day's about over, though, so it might take a bit. Tez, I fixed the Highbeam cite. The page was entered as |page=p. #, which didn't need the "p" but it turns out there was other citation stuff to fix anyway. Didn't scare me away—I just dread having to do the follow-up parts of reviews because I have to set aside time to see what happened and what didn't. Rarely made easy for the reviewer, you know? czar ♔ 23:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it can be a pain. I've done... most if not all of it, I think. Tezero (talk) 23:53, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I can wait. @Czar URDNEXT (talk) 23:12, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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I question how helpful this edit was... If you look at Point #3 (Domestic as well as foreign coverage) at WP:VG/RS I think you'll see that we are supposed to provide broad critical coverage in order to enhance reader understanding of the topic and to reduce bias. In the case of the Famitsu score I'd added to the Tony Hawk article that was not only the only Japanese source, but indeed the only source from the Eastern hemisphere of he world. It was also the only source in a language other than English. Now that you removed it we have 5 American websites, an American magazine, a British website, and a British magazine. Hardly a diverse selection. Perhaps if table space is a concern we could think about replacing one of the 5 American websites with the only Japanese source. What do you think? -Thibbs (talk) 01:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

You're right, Thibbs; I'll revert my own edit. For the record, I agreed from the start; it just isn't standard practice to include reviews with only a score (I couldn't find the full review), and I think the GA reviewer recommended I remove it (it was actually there before). Tezero (talk) 01:55, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

OK thanks. That's a good point about just a bare score. I'll get to work translating the review to add it to the text portion tomorrow. -Thibbs (talk) 02:12, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, you have it? Nice, Thibbs! I've actually considered making this GA an FA and GAing some other Tony Hawk articles, and this would be massively helpful for the first goal. Considering how popular and high-selling the series is, it's strange that it doesn't have any other high-quality pages on Wikipedia, and it's one of my favorite series of all time. (This is the same reason I got into Sonic articles back in late '08/early '09, though needless to say I think that problem's fixed now.) Tezero (talk) 02:20, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Well I have a "30 point plus" review which is basically a 1-paragraph summary of an earlier Cross Review plus the score. But it had some potentially useful details. Since it was short I just finished translating it this evening instead of waiting for tomorrow. I'll add the relevant material to the article now. Let me know if you want a transcript (in Japanese). And yeah I'm surprised there aren't more high quality Tony Hawk games. I have fond memories of them. -Thibbs (talk) 04:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Freedom Planet you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Czar -- Czar (talk) 02:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I need urgent help finishing the draft for the development section of Dogs. I'm working on the 2nd and last paragraph, but I need help with the first one, since I have no idea how to write a couple of sentences in the prose. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, by the way. @Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 22:38, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, no, it's fine, URDNEXT. I'm going out to dinner with my roommate now, then we have a video game club get-together and I've got a school project to finish up, but after that I can help. Is this in the actual article or your draftspace? Tezero (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

The article. TezeroI just finished the "draft", which has a lot of inconsistencies sure but, I had to rush it because Czar said he'd quit if I didn't finish it by the weekend. Czar, if you're seein this, you can start working on the article now that I finished the draft! I have to go back to work now, so if you can, please fix the erros and tipos I made in the article. And if you could, please copy edit the first and second paragraph of Development, not design, as there are some sentences that screw up the prose. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 22:50, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, I've copyedited the paragraphs you wanted done, but I don't understand why czar couldn't have done it himself if he was copyediting anyway. Tezero (talk) 19:07, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the c/e! Now the section finally looks ready for FA, except for the last paragraph, which I'm finishing right now. Asides from that, I've got a list of things the article is missing, mostly related to the gameplay section. With the progress we're making, I believe the article should be ready to ship to FA tomorrow night. URDNEXT (talk) 19:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

The article Freedom Planet you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Freedom Planet for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Czar -- Czar (talk) 00:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

On 7 September 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sleeping Dogs (video game), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that although the video game Sleeping Dogs sold 1.5 million copies within a year of its release, its publisher Square Enix considered it a commercial failure? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sleeping Dogs (video game). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

The article Freedom Planet you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Freedom Planet for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Czar -- Czar (talk) 17:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

You're an experienced, long term editor. So why do I need to remind you of basic concepts like BRD or "don't make edits until discussion is over"? Sergecross73 msg me 01:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Because I apparently need to remind you of basic concepts like BRD (because I revitalized the discussion on the talk) and "discussion is over when you stop making comments", as well as "one person does not form a consensus". Look, if you can rally support from other users to actually form a consensus or provide hard, inarguable evidence why Shadow is a spinoff, go ahead. In fact, maybe we should take this to WT:VG or WT:SEGA, provided we can represent each other's viewpoints fairly. It just seems like you've already decided how you think the template should be and are uninterested in listening to challenges, that's all. Tezero (talk) 02:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

We can discuss elsewhere if you want, but until then, it's been in spinoff for years and there isn't a consensus to change it. Sergecross73 msg me 03:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, I'd like to as there also isn't a consensus for it to be in "spinoffs". I'm asking now at WT:VG for the widest possible audience. Tezero (talk) 03:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Feel free to yell at me if I haven't started an FAC review for Sonic X within the week; I keep meaning to do so after you source reviewed Secret of Mana for me and then I get distracted. --PresN 23:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, PresN! I'll get on those vocal cord exercises tonight. You might also want to take a look at a few sources identified as potentially unreliable at WT:VG/RS; I've summarized the case for each one so I just need someone else to weigh in. In turn, feel free to yell at me if I haven't started an FLC review for the Sega console list within the week. Tezero (talk) 23:47, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear about what happened to your grandfather, I'm sure he is in a better place now. I recently also lost one of my grandmas and it was pretty tough too. It's never easy to lose someone close to you, but know that you can count on me if ou need any help or doubts. Ps.: Don't need to worry about the FAC/GA, these things can wait. URDNEXT (talk) 09:59, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I too am sorry to hear about your loss. I completely understand the feeling as two years ago my grandfather passed away (only 60) and he was like a father to me... anyway, hope all is well. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 10:16, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

My condolences to you and your family at this time. BOZ (talk) 12:07, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

How's it hanging? URDNEXT (talk) 00:49, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

It's going fine, URDNEXT; thanks for asking! I'd been a little sleep-deprived, but I took a two-hour nap yesterday evening followed by eleven hours of traditional slumber, so I'm quite alright now. Today I've just been shopping with my roommate for a replacement battery for his phone and a TV for us, and now he, I, and three of our other friends are settling in for some League of Legends, possibly some Team Fortress 2 (we're trying to get the others into it - I wanna play Soldier today), and maybe watching the Yu-Gi-Oh! movie. I suppose when we return to our room I'll have to study for a Japanese test on Tuesday and start knocking out the last few points of the Czech article's GAN, but for now I'm enjoying messing around. Anything of note on your own windshield? Tezero (talk) 00:55, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Good to see that you're recovering from what happened to your grandad, and that you're enjoying life more and hanging out with your friends, that's always a good thing. For me, I've been trying to write a song since yesterday, but due to procastination, I still haven't made progress in it. At least Sleeping Dogs is getting better and better with time, and hopefully, we'll be able to nominate it before the end of the week. URDNEXT (talk) 01:02, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I've responded/changed/commented on all the issues you brought up at the FAN. Thanks for helping out!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 02:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I added a paragraph to gameplay with the shooting mechanics stuff but found two problems with it. 1: It's copy pasted from GTA 5. 2: It doesn't have any citations. Is there any way you can add sources to it? I'm handling the copy paste problems roght now, and don't have an idea of what to source it to. URDNEXT (talk) 13:52, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

As far as gameplay is concerned, you'd probably be better off asking someone good at trimming, like Czar. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 23:41, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you watch/read Game of Thrones? URDNEXT (talk) 01:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Regrettably no, URDNEXT; my experience of it is limited to seeing a couple episodes at a friend's house circa 2012. The only shows I've kept up with at all during the past couple years are Breaking Bad, Kill la Kill, and for a short time Attack on Titan; I don't watch much TV. Why do you ask? Tezero (talk) 01:36, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I was wondering if you liked the show. By the way, am I the only one who misses Breaking Bad? I hope Better Call Saul can hold its own ground. URDNEXT (talk) 09:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to see it eventually, URDNEXT, but technically I never finished BB, heh. (My two closest friends last year and I only watched it when we all could together - and then more often than not we wanted to play Brawl, Sly Cooper, Sonic Colors, TF2, and stuff like that - I'm still early on in season three). It's like how I bought the seventh Harry Potter book when it came out but never actually finished it until the movie was nigh so I forced myself to read the whole thing. For now, I really dig Saul as a character. Tezero (talk) 11:26, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to see more of his story. URDNEXT (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback on the AKB48 article on GOCE. Unfortunately, the Concept section is the one I've been trying the most to present neutrally as it contains a lot of idol business specific jargon like how the auditions, graduations, elections and other gimmicks they put together work. The musical style section I listed as presented by the journalists instead of fans. I agree the history is rather dry with the timeline like presentation, but it was even more dreadful when it included every single member change across groups and graduations as well as stats about how it's yet another number one that sold over a million singles and extended their streak to umpteen in a row, beating out some other group in some record. The article was a hotbed for some editors, so major restructuring was initially met with lots of resistance as you can see by the talk pages. -AngusWOOF (talk) 23:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Tezero, would you kind helping me with a little thing? I'm starting Batman: Under the Red Hood from the ground up, but I'm running into problems with the voice cast section. I want the images frame in the section to look like the images frame to look exactly they do in Frozen (2013 film), but I can't seem to fix the image sizes to fit in the overall frame. My draft is at sandbox. Sorry for the typos, I'm almost asleep. URDNEXT (talk) 02:12, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, it doesn't look from the Frozen article like there's any special, magical way to get them aligned; you just have to go by trial and error with the various image sizes. Unfortunately, unlike with Frozen, all of the pictures have roughly the same height-to-width ratio so it's difficult to align five without extra space. Have you considered adding a sixth picture or removing one? Tezero (talk) 02:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll try to remove one then. By the way, do you have a method for writing critical receptions like the one you did in Sleeping Dogs? URDNEXT (talk) 09:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

URDNEXT, ever since Shadow the Hedgehog back in 2009, I've done it by picking the most common issues raised by reviewers, either positive or negative, and building each into a paragraph summarizing the major opinions formed about it. Of course, if one or two critics feel strongly about an issue no one else mentions, often I'll add that, too. I like this method more than the reviewer-by-reviewer organization because it's less haphazard. (Well, there's one exception I know of: Freedom Planet uses reviewer-by-reviewer, but that's because I haven't gotten word yet on which of the reviews are considered reliable, so I don't want to waste time organizing it by issue until I find that out.) Tezero (talk) 14:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll definetely use this method. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 16:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Tezero. Thanks for your support of Master System for FA. Would you be willing to put your comments at Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Master_System/archive1 in a {{resolved comments}} template? Given how long this review page is already, I think it would help to keep things organized and help the FAC delegates at the end. Thank you, Red Phoenix ^{let's talk...} 15:09, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you have any idea of when you're gonna be available to help with the Sleeping Dogs FAC? URDNEXT (talk) 21:54, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Whenever it's open, except about October 2 to 5 (a liberal estimate) and either the 16th or the 18th (don't remember). Tezero (talk) 22:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Ok, screw it. Let's just nominate the article now. URDNEXT (talk) 22:03, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

It looks like Sonic X will finish up soon (basically, as soon as czar or someone else confirms the source reliability assessments and I remove the one source designated as unreliable - there are already 3 supports and an image review), so I actually may be able to co-nominate it with you if that's determined necessary, though I'm thinking of putting Tony Hawk's Underground through soon as I can't think of anything left to do there. Regarding Sleeping Dogs, has Development been attributed to all the right sources per czar's concerns? Tezero (talk) 22:12, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes. That's why Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sleeping Dogs (video game)/archive1 exists. Add yourself as a nominator please. I don't know how to do it myself. URDNEXT (talk) 22:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

The article Czech language you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Czech language for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Maunus -- Maunus (talk) 20:22, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

• Congrats, and well done. There is one outstanding issue you need to fix though, the question of the Stankiewicz 1986 ref. I can't fix it since I dont have the book. Best. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 20:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, as long as you can write a good FUR, here you go [[File:Sleeping Dogs - Hong Kong.jpg. URDNEXT (talk) 11:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

• Also, can you do that ef 69, 70, 71 thing Jaguar mentioned, because I have no idea what to do with it. URDNEXT (talk) 11:26, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Need your help at the FAC urgent! URDNEXT (talk) 21:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you know when you're gonna be available for copy editing the artcle? I'm afraid that you and Czar don't have time to work on it. URDNEXT (talk) 23:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Saturday might be the best. I'm pretty busy until then, although I'll sporadically be on Wikipedia still. Tezero (talk) 23:46, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Damn. I have no idea how the copy editing thing will turn out then. I have contacted some editors to see if they can help, but nothing is for certain. URDNEXT (talk) 23:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC)