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Need editing help
I really need some help. My submission has been rejected 5 times (is this a record?).
Comments, and my response:
"submission appears to read more like an advertisement.....". The submission shows no product and includes no advertising literature.
"refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources.....". The submission has 13 references, and includes peer-reviewed books, NYT articles, U.S. Government reports, and an MIT article. Company reports are SEC filings and/or financial announcements, and are included because they give audited figures for the growth of the service.
The submission is a report of a company that is no longer in existence but it and its founders were important in the development of a service that has impacted the lives of millions of people--a service that is continuing as part of the acquiring organization.Postibus (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Please help me to write this submission in an acceptable form.Postibus (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Dear Ukexpat, Am wondering why no reply to the above. I believe that I signed it correctly. Please let me know. --Postibus (talk) 00:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) If you were interested in writing an encyclopedia article, it would be titled Lifeline Systems. What you have created (over and over) is an advertisement about how these people "pioneered" an industry, complete with a grossly non-encyclopedic title. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:49, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Those and them
Hey ukexpat, it is just for my knowledge that I want to be sure relating your this edit. As I know it is very common in British English! It's non-standard and dialectical, but can be found all over the country. Even if it is mostly connected with Northern accents, it's a very common feature of speech in South West. It doesn't make you sound uneducated at all if it's used in speech and not written English. But you changed that in the written article of wikipedia. I do not say you are wrong but that is not appropriate as the standards of the wikipedia?. I do realy not claim to be master of anything. When you say "Lynch went on to attend various colleges but never graduated from any of them". If you add next "colleges", the sentence will be so, "but never graduated from any of (them) colleges. I think here should be "any of those (colleges). Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 18:02, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Why not just say "...but did not graduate"?--ukexpat (talk) 18:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- That is much better, actually I did not write that phrase, I just changed, "them" into "those" but you restored that again, anyhow thank you for your understanding.Justice007 (talk) 18:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Articles for creation/Lehmann Aviation, Ltd.
Hello, I need your help! I cannot sybmit an article - Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Lehmann Aviation, Ltd. I tried 4 times, made all the necessary changes (put the reference to "reliable source", the owner of the images that i wanna use on this page sent an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. stating that he allows to use all the files etc). The article is not acepted again.. This time I really canot understand why...Ekarmanova (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- From a quick read it still looks too promotional in tone and the references still in my view do not support notability. As for the image, as soon as the permissions team confirm that the permission is OK, they will tag the image accordingly. I have to ask why you are so concerned about this article - are you writing it on behalf of, or otherwise connected with, the company? If so, you really need to read WP:COI.--ukexpat (talk) 16:22, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Lehmann Aviation, Ltd
Thanks for a quick answer! Sorry to bother you again. English is not my mother language so i really cant understand how the article is promotional, i mean what exactly (could you give me an example??)?? Why the references are not ok? We have some magazines that wrote about us but nothing more so far, so what can i refer to? which references are needed?? And to be honest the owner sent the email about the images 10 days ago.. Is it ok that we dont have the answer yet?.. Shall we receive an email with their confirmation?Ekarmanova (talk) 17:48, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- It just reads like it was copied straight from the company's website. For example, an encyclopedic article would omit the product specifications and "mission statement". The permissions team are all volunteers so it can take some time for e-mails to be processed.--ukexpat (talk) 18:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ukexpat,
- I changed the text for it to look more encyclopedic style - just the facts. I also took the mission out. I left some product specifications because, as i saw other UAV articles, this is what the authors leave.. I believe it's purely encyclopedic information for people interested in UAVs and in Lehmann Aviation in particular. As for the images, you guys have all the permissions from the pics owner - the founder of the company.
- Would you kindly reconsider our article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lehmann_Aviation,_Ltd
- Thx a lot in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekarmanova (talk • contribs) 20:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
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Tom Kline
Hi – To answer your questions – Yes, my name is Bob Zausner. Yes, I work for Tom Kline, and am also a friend. (I wrote a book about a case of his while on leave as a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter, then later left the newspaper to work on his website.) Yes, I, along with Dawn Kudgis in Tom Kline’s office, wrote the bio that we submitted.
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The genesis of our submission was simple: A while back we noticed that some of Tom’s fellow lawyers were on Wikipedia – from the Inner Circle alone there are about a dozen, including Don Keenan, Robert Clifford, Fred Levin, Joe Littlepage, Tom Strong, Thomas Demetrio, Joel Cunningham, Mike Ciresi, Alexander Blewett … So we decided to also submit Tom’s name (he was president of the Inner Circle). It didn’t seem farfetched that he be in Wikipedia. He truly is one of the most famous lawyers in Philadelphia. Anyway, we contacted Wikipedia and were told that Wikipedia does not write bios but that they must be submitted. (Believe me, it would have been easier to simply mention his name and let the good folks at Wikipedia independently decide if he deserved to be on the site and then write a bio.) Dawn and I were given some basic instructions, looked at some other bios, and off we went … I honestly didn’t know we were doing anything wrong or something that might be considered a conflict of interest.
Regardless of who wrote the bio, note that everything in it is backed by fact and can be independently verified. And if my writing the bio somehow taints it, then I’m sure someone else would be willing to write and submit one (Tom really is well-known and well-liked in Philly). But rest assured that everything written in the bio is true and accurate. And please believe me that this is not a ploy to promote or get business for a law firm. We just felt that such a prominent lawyer and Philadelphian belonged on Wikipedia.
In any event, I’ve toned down the bio – it is thoroughly straightforward and unembellished -- and will resubmit it for your review. However, if Wikipedia decides, using objective criteria, that Tom Kline does not merit being included on its pages, then so be it.
Please let me know what you decide.
PS: I did not see our previous thread on the talk page and was confused as to where to post this. Robert Zausner (talk) 15:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Go ahead and resubmit following the instructions in the review box. But the very fact that you work for the subject puts you in in a conflict of interest so your edits will receive greater scrutiny. Also the the fact that other local lawyers have articles (and yes I know of many of them too, I am a lawyer in Delaware) does not count for anything. We look at each article and the notability of the subject (as we use that term on Wikipedia) on its own merits not based on other articles.--ukexpat (talk) 15:34, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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Truphone
The changes I made to the Truphone page are required because the organisation used to exist as Truphone, switched to Tru and has now reverted back to Truphone. Unfortunately, because the page 'Truphone' previously existed and just redirected to the Tru page, I couldn't create a new Truphone page. As Tru doesn't exist any more, but the history remains the same and I cannot create a new 'Truphone' page - but need it to redirect back to Truphone, if you could explain how one is supposed to make a fundamentally basic change, I'd be most appreciative. As far as I'm concerned this is the most obvious and sensible way.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Robhallums (talk • contribs)
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Nataliya Gotsiy
Hi, can you please revert another move by the same person who tried to rename Olga Kurylenko. "Nataliya Gotsiy" is 459 000 google results, "Nataliya Hotsiy" is 2. --Garik 11 (talk) 19:01, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Hola
If you're the person that sent me a message about Michael Gambon you should know he's an Irish actor not an english one. So I'm not sure why you keep changing his nationality when i edit the page. I understand just because you're "born in a stable it doesnt make youa horse" but the man is Irish so make sure it is kept that way, it would be like me saying J.k. Rowling is Scottish because she lives in Scotland or somethingalong those lines. If your going to make false claims I'l be sure and change them. Peace, btw I'm only a teenager making a valid point so I ask you consider it. Ttyl — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktadaq163 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Does this help?
- Michael Gambon:
- He was born in Dublin during WW2, on the 19th of October, 1940, to be precise. Dark days, indeed, but still fun for an infant surrounded by a large extended family. Come the end of the war, when Michael was 5, it made sense that his father, an engineer, should cross the Irish Sea and find work amidst the rebuilding of London. Thus the family, including Michael and his seamstress mother, took up residence near Mornington Crescent, north London. Unbeknownst to Michael, his father would take out official papers for him, making him an English citizen - a fact that would later allow him to be awarded a CBE and a knighthood.
- Cheers!
- -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 21:02, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- For the record as you have accused me of making threats I would like you to know that I wasn't, merely pointing out that if his nationality is Irish you should not try and claim him as english. Furthermore block me all you want as i have done nothing wrong in fact I'm quite right in changing his nationality to Irish when you claim he is not.. I appreciate he may be a citizen of britain but that does not mean his nationality is british, it's really not that difficult to understand that if his parents are Irish and he was born in dublin and lived there until he was 5, he is clearly Irish.. I would appreciate no more threatening messages from you in mail.. Peace from Eire — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktadaq163 (talk • contribs) 17:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 21:02, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Am what?
Look man I'm new to wikipedia so I don't know what your on about, if you would care to explain I'll try and understand but if you're just going to block me for having an opinion than we certainly have some sort of problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktadaq163 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Irish/English thing has been discussed at Talk:Michael Gambon and the consensus is that English is correct. So if you have a different view, please discuss it there. I assume that you are aware that all your attempts at labelling subjects of other articles "Irish" have been reverted too? I suggest that you find some other area of Wikipedia where you can contribute more constructively because pursuing this is just wasting time for everyone.--ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Deleting comments?
Ya that's right delete my comment and keep your bias views hidden from the public!! Gambon is Irish and always will be!!! over and out — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktadaq163 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- See my edit notice and WP:No personal attacks. I have tried to discuss this rationally, you have reverted to ad hominem attacks and been warned for it. Tread carefully from now on.--ukexpat (talk) 19:27, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Tread along dear boy
Goway ya fool you think your hard! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktadaq163 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- And that's the block. BencherliteTalk 19:37, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 08 October 2012
- News and notes: Education Program faces community resistance
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- WikiProject report: Ten years and one million articles: WikiProject Biography
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- Featured content: A dash of Arsenikk
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- Technology report: The ups and downs of September and October, plus extension code review analysis
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- Discussion report: Closing RfAs: Stewards or Bureaucrats?; Redesign of Help:Contents
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Jimmy Savile
I've reverted your changes to the order of the opening paragraphs, on the basis that I specifically asked for comments on the talk page, and you have not explained there (or in an edit summary) why you prefer your order. Other editors appear to concur with my view as to the best order of paragraphs. Your views are welcome. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Please allow me to work!
I just returned to the Sanchez page to find all my new proper footnotes erased, with this information inserted by OrangeMake:
I am doing this upgrade for Sanchez as a friend - and as a working professional journalist, not a public relations agent.
I agree that the original version was inappropriately self-promotional. I had nothing to do with it. But while I try to improve this entry, purging it of fluff,I keep coming back to find OrangeMike erasing my work and inserting inaccurate information.
From OrangeMake: "Sanchez was born in Los Gatos, California. His father died in World War II three months prior to his birth["
What is going on?
Sanchez was not born in Los Gatos, but at the Oakland Naval Hospital in 1944, three months after his father was killed in the Pacific - but not in World War One, but World War Two.
I do appreciate the offers of help, however I would like to be able to work without being derailed every 30 minutes.
Mark Miller Los Angeles
Postscript re Sanchez entry
Writer is Mark Hugh Miller, Los Angeles, mhmllr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.93.248 (talk) 21:14, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Author Thomas Sanchez’s Wikipedia page entry
All the work I have been doing for two days has been erased by OrangeMike, whose “talk” link does not work as yours does. (I cannot find any place to respond to his messages.)
Sanchez lives in Paris. I live in LA. I am not in his employ, but I am a friend. I am, however, a working journalist who well knows the problem of bias.
I have been steadily paring down the entry, sharing Wikipedia guidelines with Sanchez by email to bring him up to speed on my changes.
But now two days’ worth of my work has been destroyed by OrangeMake, who inexplicably keeps reinserting incorrect information about Sanchez’s birthplace.
I am completely at a loss to fathom by what presumed right this is being done -- and done incorrectly insofar as content.
Mark Miller--Mhmllr (talk) 21:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Got it. But why mess up a bare-bones page with all this? Why not send the instructions to me rather than dominate the page with a banner? And, for the record, while I do know Sanchez, I am not his flack, merely a friend trying to help him get it right. The notion of a “conflict of interest” galls me. In my case it is 100 percent inappropriate - untrue - without basis in fact. Indeed I was the first to suggest to Mr. Sanchez that his entry was inappropriate, and offered to help him conform to Wikipedia guidelines. I am learning too - a newbie. Mark Miller — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhmllr (talk • contribs) 18:48, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Postscript re Sanchez entry
Withal, I value and thank you for your suggestions, most sincerely, and will work to execute them and get the formatting right, as I teach myself to use Wikipedia tools and learn the applicable guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhmllr (talk • contribs) 18:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Request re Sanchez page
Sanchez has recently directed a film that has been release, is in production of a documentary produced in France, and is in pre-production for a feature film based on one of his novels, also produced in France. Citations for all these will be provided.
I would like, therefore, to update the title of his page to “writer, film director.” But I have been unable to determine how to do this.
If you could do it, I would be grateful.
Thank you for your help.
Sincerely,
Mark Miller---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhmllr (talk • contribs) 19:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- There is no need to do that, nor does it comply with Wikipedia conventions. The stuff in parentheses is there only to distinguish this Thomas Sanchez from Thomas Sanchez. Per the naming conventions, disambiguating titles should be as simple as possible, so it should remain at Thomas Sanchez (writer).--ukexpat (talk) 19:07, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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Page Curation newsletter - closing up!
Hey all :).
We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.
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Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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AfD notification
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