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I'm curious as to why you marked a page I've only just created for deletion Rebecca_Spelman. This is about a living notable person and includes citations from online reliable sources such as The Voice, The Telegraph, and Channel4. I'm not sure why you wouldn't class those sources as reliable, or how more reliable it could be for a new article.

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Hi, you contributed to the article The Queen of Ireland (film). you may be interested to know that there is a requested move (to "The Queen of Ireland") at Talk:The Queen of Ireland (film)#Requested move 14 December 2015. --Scolaire (talk) 11:59, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Some of the links can be found on the equivalent pages on the other language versions. Jackiespeel (talk) 19:44, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, you have removed the link http://blackwhite.io from the public domain resource site. You talk to me, that this site is licensed with cc0 and not with pd. So please go go creative commons and read the license text. PD ist tahe same as CC0. Or better say, CC0 is PD.

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosistyles (talk • contribs) 10:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi there,

I am writing to you with respect to the review comment you posted at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 January 17#File:Reza Moridi-offcial LR.jpg

" File:Reza Moridi -offcial LR.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AIVIIR (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). this image is the exact same resolution as the one found here and there is no evidnece the uplaoder owns the copyright in which case an OTRS is needed. ww2censor (talk) 14:49, 17 January 2016 (UTC) "

It is the first time I am doing this and am a bit unfamiliar with the process. How can I provide the copyright? This is an image of the minister and I am his admin, for which the image is original and he has the copyright. I can have him write an email to confirm. Would that do solve the problem?

Thanks, - Amir — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.153.134.165 (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@AIVIIR: @50.153.134.165: Unless you took the photo AND own the copyright you cannot upload it here without the copyright holder verifying their permission. Did you not notice the copyright notice at the bottom of the page you found the image on. Remember that the vast majority of images you will find on the internet are copyright to someone and must be clearly freely licenced for us to be able to use them. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page. You should address all your comments to the deletion nomination page not here because no one else is likely to see them here. Thanks. ww2censor (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The image File:RDFilmPoster.jpg has a fair use rationale and is used exclusively for that article. KingDiggi (talk) 02:42, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@KingDiggi: But unfortunately Ilaiyaraaja 2015 is a list article and non-free images are not permitted in lists per WP:NFLISTS. ww2censor (talk) 11:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ww2censor:but all the Images used in the series of Ilaiyaraaja YYYY are a part of the discography and the posters are movies which increase the understandability of the article, and used to present the key visual aspect of the article. Strictly 1 image is used and essential for every yeared article, and the images are used judiciously, and strongly against vandalism of the article. KingDiggi (talk) 11:41, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I hear you but it, and all the other similar uses, still fail WP:NFLISTS so should in fact be deleted. ww2censor (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

but, doesnt completely violate WP:NFLISTS 1. Its a digital work obtained/released to public by the owner of the image 2.below every image there is a description and a source cited 3.didnt understand 4.in this case it is exclusive and with a rationale 5.it represents a character of the movie 6.It is essential for the article. please reconsider KingDiggi (talk) 11:57, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I got from the Batman Wikipedia on Shirley Walker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ty45674 (talk • contribs) 06:28, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ty45674: In that case you need to provide and add a unique URL for the webpage the image appears on so we can check its copyright status. Please add that information to the image as I don't need it here; reviewing editors need it on the image page File:Shirley Walker.jpeg. Also please sign your posts to talkpages per clear instructions in the edit note above. ww2censor (talk) 12:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Can you do it for me? I'm new at this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ty45674 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

How can I help you if you will not provide the source information with a unique url as perviously requested above? If you can add that detail here you can just as easily add it yourslef to the image page by editing that page. AND, as requested above in the edit notice and is my previous message you must remember to sign your talk page messages with four tildes, like this: ~~~~ Please read the replies carefully and just do it; it's not that hard. It's just like any other edit, thanks. ww2censor (talk) 16:51, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

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Harej (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

You should have seen it before. Murry1975 (talk) 11:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

The citations are not inline, just thrown together at the bottom so we don't know what verifies which statement. ww2censor (talk) 11:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

You seem to be the only person who does article assessments for the Irish articles. Believe it or not I am trying to learn from your comments too - I try to remember not to use ==Biography== but it creeps in when I copy an article which uses it and I forget to remove it....If you have any suggestions of things I can do to improve the articles do let me know. But mostly thank you for reviewing them.

It gives me a great sense of confidence that I'm not likely to create a total dud when I know you are checking through them as well. Thank you ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 13:55, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting. I've been assessing the Irish articles since July 2007 when just over 1,000 article had been tagged and it is now approaching 50,000. There used to be 3 or 4 others dong the job but they have dropped off. Mostly it's a thankless task. I don't know if you can learn much from my assessments as I now use the rater tool and it adds summary details by default. Normally any reasonably educated editor can be a decent judge of the class rating especially Stub or Start and GA and FA are defined by their own review/nomination process. Sometimes C and B-class are perhaps a bit more difficult to decide but importance ratings are rather subjective and should always be decided in relation to the totally of the Ireland project. I presume you have read Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Assessment and its details of class and importance ratings. I don't see that you have yet joined the Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Members which you should probably do it you are interested in Irish articles. I have seen many article with a main section called Biography when really the whole article is a biography so choosing a section header like Life and career, Life and work or just Life are alternatives. I also have User:AlexNewArtBot/IrelandSearchResult on my watchlist, where potential new Irish articles are listed, but I don't review it as much as I would like due to spending more time on the commons which also prevents me from writing new articles I want to. Just ask if you want some specific advise. BTW, I did a little rearranging of Josephine Ryan which you might want to review for better formatting. I'm not sure I would use the separate citation style for short articles like this one. ww2censor (talk) 00:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Again - thanks for assessing the articles. I'm curious though why Captain Otway Cuffe got a c-class but Máirín Cregan is start class? It would help to understand. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 13:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Aboutmovies who has more that 3 times my edits and is very productive has been here just a few months longer than I have, had already assessed it as a C-class so I did not reassess it. Class ratings are the same for all wikiprojects. I tend to be a bit conservative in assessing articles but remember that assessments are actually quite subjective. Re: Máirín Cregan, if it had more citations I would probably have given it a C. BTW, when uploading images you do not put the subject name in the non-free licence template. Fill it in with "|image has rationale=yes" if it has one a leave it blank per the template instruction. Also there is no need to thank me for each assessment but thanks. You seem to be doing a lot a work, good stuff, thanks. ww2censor (talk) 14:50, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh - I hadn't noticed - I've come to assume you are the assessor since you do so many especially when your name pops about the same time :-) ! I just fill in the template in the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. I'll read through it more carefully when I use it again. I thought it was one of the mandatory fields. I usually only give as many citations as prove the statements, I probably could have given more. I thought it better not to overload - I'll take another look, thanks. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 16:24, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Not a problem. I seem to now be the only one concentrating on assessing Irish articles that find at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Ireland articles by quality log. There used to be 4 or 5 people doing it. My assessment may be the first unless someone already adds the basic template or picks it up elsewhere and does it. I don't use the upload wizard but I think when you choose a fair-use historically significant image and from the licence the same drop down licence it shows the "|image has rationale=yes" in the licence it will attache but I think you have to add that after upload. Citation-wise less I suppose is better and there is no real reason to add more so long as there are enough to verify the statements. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi User:Ww2censor. Please stop renaming 'Biography' sections to 'Life'. It is not correct that a biographical article as a whole is a biography as you seem to assume. I am, for instance, writing a lot of composer biographies. In the guidelines to WikiProjects Composers (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Composers#Sections) it is very clearly mentioned that these articles should consist of a 'Biography', followed by 'Music', 'Legacy' etc., whatever is appropriate. I changed back a few of the articles I feel responsible for, but you should generally refrain from editing this. – Aklein62 (talk) 09:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

That convention must be a Project Composer's only guideline. I've not seen it mentioned elsewhere as a requirement for a header title. To me biographical and biography are just the noun and adjective of the same concept even if you disagree. Many other articles use "Life and work," Life and career" or some such header, when there is not enough prose to provide more sections. But as you wish, I just won't bother with such articles. BTW, with your German and Irish music interest, are you familiar with Fritz Brase seeing as he is mentioned elsewhere and has a dewiki page at de:Fritz Brase? He should really have an article. I may even have an old photo or two that I can get when I visit Ireland next. ww2censor (talk) 11:51, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Fine, thank you. As to Fritz Brase, yes, he is on my list for the next few weeks (say, May/June). When it's done, feel free to add the photo. I don't have any. – Aklein62 (talk) 12:43, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

@Aklein62: There seems to be a decent bit about him online such as this RTÉ Radio documentary. ww2censor (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

There is no way Eliza Schneider was born in 1978. That would make her a 12yo college student and a 16yo college grad (UCLA 1994). And she was definitely over 16 when she was on Beakman. 1972 seems much more realistic. I've seen 1972 on other sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.248.159.105 (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

So are these three bio , and and others all wrong? Do you have a reliable source for your 1972 statement? If so please provide it but I can't find anything to support 1972 but f you can I'll be happy to go with it. ww2censor (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

http://russia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lets_get_married_from_youtube_2008_show.png

It is from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tXAXPkzL4g

Thank you Moscowamerican (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:19, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry but no, I can't help you, so let me explain. You joined and uploaded that image onto russia.wikia today but the original YouTube video is not freely licensed. Look at the licence; when you click the "MORE INFO" button you see the license is the "Standard YouTube License" and it does not state "reuse allowed" so we will cannot accept it here. It is most likely copyright to the production company or TV station. Even though wikia is freely licensed the image you uploader there is a copyright violation and should be removed. Sorry to not have better news for you. ww2censor (talk) 09:16, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

• The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
• The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi there,

I work for Teamwork.com and noticed that our Wiki page has been nominated for deletion. I've read over the links from SwisterTwister talk Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2016_May_20#Teamwork.com but I am still unsure about what I need to do up to update this page to prevent it from being deleted.

Your comment was "My searches have found several links throughout the years from News and browsers but still nothing to suggest the applicable notability and nothing from the current article is also better convincing." Can you let me know what "still nothing to suggest the applicable notability and nothing from the current article is also better convincing" means?

I've also read the Deletion Policy Wikipedia:Deletion policy but still can't figure out which one of the 14 reasons is applicable to our page.

I'll start work on editing the page today, but if there is any specific that I need to do, can you let me know?

Thanks. 93.107.237.21 (talk) 13:36, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes indeed, the reason is that there are no suitable source that confirm the company's notability, so firstly because you work for company you have a clear conflict of interest and should not be editing that article. Second, if there are errors or information from reliable sources you should post that on the talk page and ask a non-conflicted editor to see if your details are appropriate. I've commented on the deletion nomination page and you can, and should, post your comments there, as no one interested in it is likely to pick it up here on my talk page. BTW it was SwisterTwister, not me, who made the comments you posted above. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 17:03, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

This is my picture I took of this model I didn't take it from no website

https://pixabay.com/en/model-bahari-ibaadat-1411705/

How do I upload it ? Haroonazizi (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ww2censor. Just for the record, I did not tag File:InacioFortaleza.png with Template:Di-orphaned fair use; I tagged it with Template:Orphaned non-free revisions. If you read the latter template, you'll see that it says "The previous version(s) of this file are non-free. The older revision(s) are no longer being used in articles, and therefore fail the Wikipedia non-free content criteria. The current version will not be deleted, only previous revision(s)." -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:45, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for continually bothering you, but you seem willing to help. It seems the extracted from template doesn't support multiple source images, specifically in reference to this image, which is a combination of two images already on commons. Is there another template that supports a combination of images? TimothyJosephWood 13:51, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

This is not an extracted image but a derived image, so I've fixed it but I also tried to use an extracted but as you say it did not work but {{image extracted|1= |2= }} c:Template:Image extracted does work. Try it in a sandbox. ww2censor (talk) 14:06, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Young_Messiah_(musical)&oldid=prev&diff=732642903

Ok WW, didn't spot that. Sarah777 (talk) 21:16, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, sometime our fingers are just a bit too fast and we miss someting like that. It happens. No problem. ww2censor (talk) 21:20, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/1250_in_Ireland Have your say! Sarah777 (talk) 18:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks WW - just wish some others would help expand/beef-up this series; it's easy, there is a lot of material - but a big job for just one editor! Sarah777 (talk) 22:41, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@Sarah777: Actually I looked for something to add to 1250_in_Ireland but could not easily find anything. BTW, this looks right up your street: http://wikilovesmonuments.ie/ Maybe you have some already or can get out and about to bag some of them close by you. ww2censor (talk) 23:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not much into competitions! But can you guess where/what this is....

Sarah777 (talk) 23:51, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Actually no, I don't know this place exactly but I probably passed it is an earlier life. Before looking at the file page I presumed it might be south west Co Dublin or even north Co Wicklow, so I was not too far off. Nice shot but for me I could possibly do with a little more saturation and I like the 3/4 backlight. Are you using RAW files as that makes keeping details better than jpeg? Regarding the wikilovesmonuments, don't think about it as a competition as it's just a way of encouraging photographers to contribute shots, like you do, but within a short time span. I've been out trying to fill in some missing images on this list. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 09:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

It could do with a bit of light adjustment...but like most of my shots it comes straight from a Canon on "auto" mode! I will work on editing :) Sarah777 (talk) 00:12, 20 September 2016 (UTC)