User talk:Ymblanter/2019

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DM RFC

I have replied to Primefac's email about the DM RFC, copying you via the address Primefac gave me. If you do not receive this, or your mail has changed (I noted some conversation about this at AN, though as I do not know which address was used when, I'm not sure which one was given to me) let me know, and we'll figure things out. Best, Vanamonde (talk) 07:03, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I have received your reply, no problem.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Ezhiki

Hi, I was just wondering whether you had heard from Ezhiki at all. I know he was editing less and less, but he hasn't edited for more than 6 months. I hope he hasn't gone away for good. Fenix down (talk) 14:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

No, I do not have any means of connecting to him other than posting at his talk page. I noticed indeed that 6 months is his greatest editing gap ever, but unfortunately I do not know what happened. I hope he is well.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:28, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Me too, it was a very abrupt end with nothing in his user page. Fingers crossed he is OK. Fenix down (talk) 14:52, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Notice (added party)

At the request of the arbitrators, you have been added as a named party to the GiantSnowman case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman/Evidence. Please add your evidence by January 10, 2019, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Bradv🍁 16:13, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the formal notification, I have already seen that I have been added as a party.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Subodh Kerkar

Hi, the page Subodh Kerkar was blanked for possible copyvios. I have since created a fresh version of the article at this temp page. This version is free of copyvios. Also this particular revision is a clean revision of the page, free of copyvios. Could you please look into what action is to be taken for the same? Thanks. SerTanmay (talk) 07:27, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I will take care of it later today (review the new version, move and do the necessary administration). Courtesy pinging @Justlettersandnumbers:--Ymblanter (talk) 07:39, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
My apologies, did not come to that today. Will try to complete tomorrow.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:55, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 20:22, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I have started creating a page for the Georgian Museum of Fine Arts. You have connected to Georgian National Gallery, which is a completely different page. Georgian Museum of Fine Arts is a new museum in Tbilisi that opened October 2, 2018. Please reverse your changes.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Lobo87 (talkcontribs) 16:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

This is fine, but you will need to provide sources demonstrating it notability first.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:PFC Lokomotiv Tashken

Hi, Please deal with Category:PFC Lokomotiv Tashkent. Especailly, This category Category:PFC Lokomotiv Tashkent seasons. Only administrator can edit. Footwiks (talk)

It should stay tagged for two days. I asked you to tag it, but you ignored the request. Then I had to tag it myself, hence the delay.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Actually, I didn't understand the meaning of tag. Anyways, Sorry for that and thanks a lot.Footwiks (talk)
Sure, no problem. May be try to ask next time if you do not understand something which you think might be important.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Mann Gulch fire - hijacking underway

Warning icon Please refrain from hijacking pages as you did with one of the pages you edited. Should you believe the subject you were writing about deserves an article, please use the Article Wizard, which has an option to create a draft version that you can then get feedback on. If you continue to hijack an existing article, you may be blocked from editing. If you have any questions, you are always welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you..

The timeline section has been in place since August 2018 without a single complaint. On what grounds did you lock in the existing article? CerroFerro (talk) 17:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@CerroFerro:, what the fuck are you talking about? Have you ever heard about the protection policy?--Ymblanter (talk) 17:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Luiz Gustavo Novaes Palhares, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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Arthistorian1977 (talk) 07:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Arthistorian1977:, I assume it was an error (I do not see any issues with the article except for it being a one-line stub), but if it was not please let me know what is wrong, so that I could be more attentive in the future. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ymblanter: Hi, it definitely was. I think it was just sitting in the cache of the tool, and I saw it as unreviewed and when I press "review", it made it actually "unreviewed". It happens to me from time to time. My sincere apologies. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 09:23, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Sure, no problem.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Sergiev-Kazan Church, Krasnoobsk, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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Arthistorian1977 (talk) 07:50, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Also this one, the article looks fine to me.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Ymblanter_alt

Idly curious, what happened to this user account that's mentioned on your userpage? It's not currently registered, and there's no User:Ymblanter alt~enwiki either. Nyttend (talk) 13:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

It should be registered on Commons. I was in October in China, my laptop died, and for whatever reason on my ipad I was logged in here but not on Wikidata or Commons (I did not even think it was possible). But I was in a jury of Wiki Loves Monuments Russia, and there I had some photos to grade urgently, and they were linked to my Commons account. (And I do not remember my password, and I also could not recover a temporary one because Google is blocked, and VPN did not work properly). Then I just registered a new account and asked the grading system to be reattached to that account. It is quite possible that I never visited the English Wikipedia from that account, and it has never been created locally.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Australian Better Families

G'day, Ymblanter, re Australian Better Families apologies, we seem to have been looking at this at the same time and I inadvertently changed the protection time. I have restored it to the period you placed on it. Strangely, when I went to protect it, I didn't get the usual warning when the article has already been protected. I only got an "edit conflict" when I went to put the template on it. Anyway, sorry. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem, it happens all the time, and actually 3 days would also have been ok, I usually seem to be on a longer term side compared to other administrators.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:05, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Virtue signalling

Hi Ymblanter, I noticed you semi-protected this article following a request for indef SP. Thank-you for disregarding the 'indefinite' element and only protecting for a week. Having looked at the article history it is clear that the co-called disruptive editing claimed by User:CFCF is nothing of the sort. There is evidence of content dispute, but that's all. The request for SP appears, at least to me, to be an example of trying to close down IP editors. Silas Stoat (talk) 21:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

There was clearly disruptive editing by IPs, but, unless there are very good reason, I never make the first protection indefinite.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:14, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't find any - at least not of the first page of the edit history - content dispute only. I guess the problem is that one man's disruptive editing is another man's valid contribution. When the latter is an IP he is at an immediate disadvantage. Silas Stoat (talk) 21:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
For me, content dispute in which one (or both) of the sides makes the same edits for years without going to the talk page is disruptive editing.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I'd agree with that. Thanks. Silas Stoat (talk) 21:29, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Puerto Rico subdivisions

Hi I created about 800 subdivisions of Puerto Rico articles.
Many times the subdivision has the same name as the municipality.
Oftentimes, as well, there is a barrio with the same name, except in a different municipality. So again, I put the municipality in parenthesis, as I've seen time and again. So In that case all along, I've named it with the municipality in parenthesis.
I noticed you moved an article (changing the name) and separate the subdivision with a comma, so instead of Lajas (Lajas) it is now Lajas, Lajas https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lajas,_Lajas&oldid=879930922 The thing is there are 800 articles and I would estimate that 70% of the articles are using the Lajas (Lajas) format. Wondering if there's a specific rule in the MOS for this and I apologize if my way of naming the articles was incorrect. Now I'd like to know if all the articles where the municipality is in parenthesis will/should be redirected/moved to match the (comma) Lajas, Lajas naming convention? Thank you for your time and have a good day... --the eloquent peasant (talk) 03:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I am pretty sure we do not use parentheses in the names of localities. Let me try to find an exact policy/guideline and come back. Thanks for working on the Puerto Rico barrios.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
@Level C:, it is here: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Disambiguation. I can help you with moves if you give me some pointer (e.g. list pf pages).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
OK. I have a friend visiting from Hawaii -so it may be a few days. Thanks! --the eloquent peasant (talk) 21:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I finally worked on "some pointer (list of pages)". So if you would like to help me move these- is that what you really want to do?! Wow!!


Here is the list. BTW, it is an article that had, IMHO, useless information, so I used it to list barrios and communities in P.R.
Based on what I read on the MOS, it seems that the article names may include "..., Puerto Rico" in order to disambiguate. Would you agree?
The List of communities in Puerto Rico shows the barrio name, muncipality name to make it easy to work on this project.
1) you/we/I would move the page to the barrio name, municipality name, Puerto Rico. i.e. Lajas, Lajas would become Lajas, Lajas, Puerto Rico. Would you agree or not?
2) in the case of about 75 barrios named "name barrio-pueblo" we would not need to include a comma followed by the municipality name because it's self-explanatory. i.e. Cayey barrio-pueblo would become Cayey barrio-pueblo, Puerto Rico or even simply be left as Cayey barrio-pueblo. But based on the MOS, it seems adding "Puerto Rico" disambiguates the issue:
MOS states, "In some cases, the article title should include additional text, such as a country name or province name, for example, Paris, Maine or Red River (Victoria). The additional text is called a disambiguation tag. The disambiguation tag provides context to the reader, and helps uniquely identify places when multiple places share the same name. The following general principles apply to such tags:
In some cases, including most towns in the United States, the most appropriate title includes the non-parenthesized State name as a tag, even when it is not needed for disambiguation."
I'm still updating /adding article names (barrios, subbarrios, communities) to the List of communities in Puerto Rico and am up to letter "F". Thank you. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 22:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Many if not all (I didn't check all) of the San Juan barrio articles seem to have been named correctly. That was before my time. They are named barrio, San Juan, Puerto Rico. Thanks again if you're willing to help me with this. Also, I'll have to learn / read up on if there more to a move than meets the eye? --the eloquent peasant (talk) 22:50, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I certainly agree for #1 and will help with the moves (though I might be slow). For #2 (barrio-pueblos) I think it would be safer to ask at a dedicated Wikiproject (I am not sure which one would be better, it is probably good to check which Wikiprojects are around. Or asking at the talk page of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names).--Ymblanter (talk) 21:56, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I'll ask around re: # 2. Also, I wonder why wouldn't we just place a redirect tag on each barrio's talk page only 'cause I'm concerned I might not know how to do any clean-up that may be needed after a move. Anyway, it's late and tomorrow's another day. Have a good one!--the eloquent peasant (talk) 04:32, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
I finished moving the barrios in the municipality of Aguadilla. Do the original articles need to be deleted? I see in your work, the original article is red (deleted). Thanks much for your help. It will be slow going. I'll work up from A as I see you did Vega Baja. We may meet in the middle some day. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 20:15, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
It might be easier if you move each barrio, one municipality at a time. The municipalities are linked here in my sandbox--the eloquent peasant (talk) 20:24, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
I have moved two articles from the bottom of the page, but I can switch to the sandbox, no problem. I kept the redirects, I only directed the talk page redirects, but this is not required.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:38, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Cheers! Thanks for your help! I have a question regarding creating a disambiguation page when name is used. How do we create a disambiguation page for Palmarejo for 4 other Palmarejo articles? Palmarejo River, Palmarejo, Corozal, Puerto Rico, Palmarejo, Lajas, Puerto Rico, Palmarejo, Coamo, Puerto Rico. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 18:31, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I moved the article to Palmarejo, Cape Verde. Now, Palmarejo still has a lot of backlinks, most of which (but not all of them) are coming from the giant template. I already fixed the template, but we need to wait for several hours until the caching issues will be fixed (may be already fiexed for you). We can then fix the remaining backlinks and set a disambig page. If you come to this (I will soon go to sleep and will be largely unavailable tomorrow), do not forget hatnotes.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
OKay. I'll wait however, I'm not sure what this means. I've never done this. I'll read up on it after a nap. Thanks!--the eloquent peasant (talk) 18:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Never mind then, I will do it myself and you could add remaining meanings to the page.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you.the eloquent peasant (talk) 19:00, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 19:25, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I tried to do Cuyón disambiguation, added hatnotes. But I may have done something wrong.--the eloquent peasant (talk) 20:09, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I moved it to Cuyón, but I do not see any other problems.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:13, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 Done All'v been moved- all those that should've been moved were moved. No more parenthesis. Now can get to bigger and better things. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 17:27, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I already discovered it in the morning. Thanks a lot. We probably still need to figure out what to do with the barrio-pueblos--Ymblanter (talk) 17:30, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Okay. I started a discussion on it. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 22:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Wittgenstein

Could you please revert this dodgy move? Ghirla-трёп- 07:36, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Sure,  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 07:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
The pre-war title was Peter Wittgenstein. Actually, the lede claims that it is the better-known name. I can't revert the double move, because it was done so as to make renaming impossible. Ghirla-трёп- 07:07, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
You are right, I moves back to that title.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Ruthenian language

Hi,

please check this edit (), I am unable to decide or interpret it is ok or not...Thank You(KIENGIR (talk) 00:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC))

Already reverted by someone...(KIENGIR (talk) 00:19, 28 January 2019 (UTC))

John Boyne

Hi again. You said the article "John Boyne" is pending changes for six months, but then you indefinitely semi-protected it. Which one should be more correct and more appropriate? -- George Ho (talk) 09:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I meant pending changes, thanks for noticing. Adjusted now.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Short Description of London Underground station articles

Hi Ymblanter! I'm really intrigued to know why you added these short desc templates, which seems to me that aren't of any use. Would you mind explaining? Your edits have been flooding my watchlist lol Thanks VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:29, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@Vincent60030:, They are needed for mobile users, see WP:Short description. My apologies for flooding the watchlist. I want to add them anyway, but I will try to distribute my work so that I add alternatively short descriptions to articles on metro stations for different cities, then it will be easier qua watchlists.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Cool! Thanks for the info! Though I must say I’m watching station articles of 4 countries at least xD VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 04:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
I will try to minimize the collateral damage. I know myself how inconvenient it is when someone makes a lot of small changes during a short period in the articles of the same type all of which I have on my watchlist.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:07, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm still learning from you and've decided to try my hand at some of these short descriptions and taking this good discussion into consideration. Thanks! --Level C (talk) 00:34, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Two considerations are (i) if you do it manually, do not do too much at a time for the above reasons; (ii) if you started working with a group of articles finish it, since we do not have instruments to check which articles have short description, and checking them one by one is really annoying.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Exactly. Okay. Sounds good.--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 10:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Rubicon Group Holding protection request

Hi Ymblanter,

I would like to know whey you declined to protect our company wikipedia page for semi-protect and full-protect, I would prefer to have full-protection on our page since we are facing some vandalism from IP's and fake users changing our company status to closed and defunct, we need to avoid these actions and if you want I will send you official email from company owner or my official email.

your response is highly appreciated.

Thanks  Preceding unsigned comment added by Diya.albanna (talkcontribs) 10:05, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Unless you count your own edits as vandalism, the last IP edit was yesterday, and the one before in July 2018. This is well below our standard threshold for article protection.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ymblanter,

we need one admin to be responsible these changes, I did clean all the vandalism yesterday coming from named users like (A10.comfan24) and public IP's and changed some figures to make the company active and you can chech that, another time if you want official emails I can provide.

Thanks  Preceding unsigned comment added by Diya.albanna (talkcontribs) 10:13, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

No, admins are not needed for these tasks.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, no admin ?? please justify the reason and i'm asking for semi-protection too.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Diya.albanna (talkcontribs) 10:25, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Again: If an article has been vandalized three times in a year, we do not semi-protect. You can just revert vandalism. I for example protected an article today which was vandalized five times in 24h by different IPs who inserted there serious violations of our policy on biographies of living people. This is what merits protection, vandalism three time per year does not.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ymblanter: Can you fix the copyright issue with the article Adventist Health.Catfurball (talk) 20:46, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

I am afraid it requires a bit more time than I have before I go to sleep. I will have a look tomorrow.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 07:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Slovenskoye, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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Arthistorian1977 (talk) 07:52, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Must be an error, I guess we were looking at it at the same time.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:55, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
@Arthistorian1977:, I reviewed it back but if there was a real problem please let me know.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:56, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
@Ymblanter: Agh, it happens to me all the time. When I open an unreviewed article and someone else does the same when I press review, it marks it unreviewed :( The same others do to me. Might be a raise condition bug. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 08:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I forgot to apologies. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 08:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
No problem, it is indeed quite common. No need to apologize, I was just double-checking whether there was a real problem with the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism Issue

Hello! User talk:Kefaloniaa is constantly vandalizing the page of Levante Ferries. You can see it in the history of the page. He was banned for 31 hours but he is back again. Can you do something about this? I'm the creator of the page Kefalonitis94 (talk) 08:55, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I am afraid I am not competent to determine whether the last edits have been disruptive. Please try to discuss at the talk page.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:02, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

WP:RFPPA

Regarding your edit, requests in 31 January 2019 should not be removed today because some requests are less than 7 days Hhkohh (talk) 09:08, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, shame on me. I will restore it now.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:16, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Please remove the Fiat Freemont page protection

Please remove the Fiat Freemont page protection as we want to create a separate page from Dodge Journey and to have some different information, even those vehicles have similarities.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Rejs12345 (talkcontribs) 21:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

This protection is exactly to prevent you from doing this. Please discuss at the talk page first.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Arrow Cross Party

Hi,

sorry, this is the time regarding this page, a tendentious IP does not care about anything, with disruptive modifications/deletions...I opened the issue in the talk page long ago, no answer..I warned the IP for edit warring, no result...others also noticed, but it still goes on...please do the needful. Thank You for your time.(KIENGIR (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2019 (UTC))

 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 21:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman closed

An arbitration case regarding GiantSnowman has now closed, and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:

GiantSnowman is admonished for overuse of the rollback and blocking functions, and reminded to "lead by example" and "strive to model appropriate standards of courtesy"; to "respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrative actions and to justify them when needed"; to not use admin tools in "cases in which they have been involved" including "conflicts with an editor" and "disputes on topics"; to "treat newcomers with kindness and patience"; and to apply these principles in all interactions with all editors. GiantSnowman is placed under review indefinitely; during the review, with the exception of obvious vandalism, he is subject to the following restrictions:

  1. He may not revert another editor's contribution without providing an explanation in the edit summary. This includes use of MediaWiki's rollback function, any tool or script that provides a similar function, and any manual revert without an edit summary. Default edit summaries, such as those provided by the undo function or Twinkle's rollback feature, are not sufficient for the purpose of this sanction
  2. He may not block an editor without first using at least three escalating messages and template warnings
  3. He may not consecutively block an editor; after one block he is advised to consult with another admin or bring the matter to the attention of the community
  4. He may not place a warning template on an editor's talk page without having first placed an appropriate self-composed message containing links to relevant policies and guidelines
  5. He may not place more than five consecutive warning templates or messages; after which he is advised to consult with another admin
  6. He may not use MassRollback.js

Violations may be reported by any editor to WP:AE. GiantSnowman may appeal any or all of these sanctions, including the review itself, directly to the Arbitration Committee at any time.

For the Arbitration Committee, Bradv🍁 18:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Discuss this
Yes, I have seen this, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Pending changes at the Gia Carangi article

Ymblanter, as seen here, you stated, "I think pending changes protection is working fine for the time being. It can not completely stop disruptive editing, and this is not what it was designed for." And Oshwah agreed. But pending changes did not work fine in the case of the IP showing up again and making the same problematic edit, and WP:Pending changes states, "Pending changes protection is a tool used to suppress vandalism and certain other recurrent nuisances on Wikipedia while allowing a good-faith user to submit an edit for review." So I'm not clear on the "this is not what it was designed for" part of your comment...unless you mean that pending changes is meant to help decrease disruptive editing instead of completely eliminate it. Either way, one goal of the protection is to prevent vandalism and other disruptive editing by IPs and non-autoconfirmed registered editors from showing up in the article. As seen here, I addressed the editor who reviewed the IP's latest edit and accepted it. The editor explained that they didn't pay close attention to the edit.

Now that I've sourced the piece, I understand leaving pending changes in place, considering that an editor is unlikely to accept the IP removing the source if the IP does that when removing the middle name again, but pending changes didn't work fine that first try. If the editor had accepted the IP's edit because the middle name was unsourced, then I can see the argument that pending changes did work fine that first try. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Pending changes protection is usually configured when there is persistent long-term but infrequent disruption in an article by non-autoconfirmed users but at the same time there are also good IP edits to the article. Gia Carangi has exactly this profile. Whereas this year disruption mainly comes from one IP, whom I now blocked for a week (and if they continue disrupting editing after the expiration of the block they will need to be blocked again), I see good (or at least not reverted) IP edits in November. It is unfortunate that a bad edit was accepted, but since you talked to the user I hope it is not going to happen anymore. Of course it we see after some period (say a couple of months) that this kind of protection does not help, and that bad IP edits are still made frequently on a regular basis, we can upgrade it to semi, but my analysis of the situation was that, three days after the pending changes protection was configured and with only one bad edit in the meanwhile, it is too early to reach this conclusion.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:36, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply and for blocking the IP. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. Let me know if they reappear.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Boychuk etc.

Some unsolicited advice from a "wise old man". I know you have administrative responsibilities, but you should relax. There's probably not a single article on Wikipedia that doesn't violate some guideline. Anyway, the whole internet/web is going to go up in a puff of smoke some day. Just enjoy it! Cheers! WQUlrich (talk) 00:52, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Shin Lim

@ymblanter There was absolutely no good reason or good faith from you to change the edit level of the page, because my edits was about adding Shin Lim's Chinese name to the page, unless you have something against his Chinese name. But that would make you and the people who were intentionally ignoring the content of my edits and deleting his Chinese name from it look very shady, pathetic, and cowardly.2604:6000:D786:6C00:3DF7:791D:751C:69D4 (talk) 19:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

We obviously have different opinions on what disruptive editing means.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:53, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
You obviously have no comprehension of what "disruptive" means. An action needs to have an equal and opposite reaction in order to be disruptive. So if my edits were disruptive, then by definition those who changed my edits were equally disruptive. But did you call their edits disruptive, too? Of course not, because by using an underhanded method to censor specific information that you didn't like but cannot refute on facts and logic, and then deleting my previous reply to you, you have proven that you are not only a biased coward but also a moron of such pathetic caliber that wikipedia has been given a bad name by dumb schmos like yourself who play censors here.66.24.187.63 (talk) 23:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for this very civil and insightful remark.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

About the 3 pages that you protected

I do not know why but I've seen that you unfairly protected those 3 articles that I edited recently to a user who does not understand several tips in his discussion page and here I have tried to add Rica Fukami's birth reference because I realized that in the Japanese Wikipedia article I did not see the actress's birth year nor is it singer, rather is a narrator of anime series but with its reversals the IPs like us consider us as cross-wikis in different languages ​​in Wikipedia, as it does in Wikidata right here and threatens us with wanting to block us globally so easily. 152.0.140.236 (talk) 18:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I have not seen that you engaged at the talk pages of the articles (in fact, you have not), and you changed your IP to start edit-warring. This is a typucal situation when we protect articles.. If you want to change the birth date, go to the article talk page and show which reliable sources confirm your version of the birth date.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:00, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages consultation 2019

The Wikimedia Foundation has invited the various Wikimedia communities, including the English Wikipedia, to participate in a consultation on improving communication methods within the Wikimedia projects. As such, a request for comment has been created at Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019. You are invited to express your views in the discussion. ~ Winged BladesGodric 05:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, but is it likely that I am going to use the option "please ignore".--Ymblanter (talk) 09:48, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Wrong sanctions at the February 2019 Warsaw Conference article

Hello Ymblanter, i noticed that recently you have tagged the February 2019 Warsaw Conference article with ARBPIA and envoked 6 month protection upon the request of user:Foster tree, who unilaterally decided that the article is somehow related to AI Conflict. It is obvious however that the Conference was in fact dealing with the Arab-Israeli coalition against Iran supported by the US, and not anything related with previous conflict of Israel with Arab League. There has already been a similar misunderstanding with the Iran–Israel proxy conflict article, where ARBPIA was rightfully removed by BU Rob13 upon my clarification request. Please note, that the Warsaw Conference article still falls under the WP:GS/SCW&ISIL sanctions due to relevance with the Syrian Civil War and ISIL, which are separate sanctions from ARBPIA, and were installed specifically for the purpose of separating the issue of Syrian Civil War and Iran-Israel engagements from the generally unrelated Arab-Israeli conflict. I would appreciate if the sanctions would be corrected from ARBPIA to SCW&ISIL as explained.GreyShark (dibra) 08:02, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done, will configure the talk page template later. In fact, the disruption was specifically related to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but as soon as the sanctions work I do not particularly care which sanctions have been exactly imposed.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:09, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, what disruption are you referring to? (the page seems to have been generally stable with no specific edit-warring) Anyway, it is still tagged as ARBPIA while editing.GreyShark (dibra) 12:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
On a second thought, I decided to remove protection altogether. We are not authorized to put articles under extended confirmed protection outside of the ARBPIA area; there was no disruption in the article since 14 February, and normally the article does not need to be protected. If disruption resumes, semi-protection can be added.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, that is probably the best solution. Will remove other ARBPIA tags.GreyShark (dibra) 12:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Venezuelan presidential crisis

Hello, Ymblanter; just yesterday, you semi-protected at my request at RFPP the article, 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. The article had grown huge. With consensus, I just finished splitting a large portion of it (100 KB!) to Responses to the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. This is the portion where we list who supports whom, and it is, of the two articles now, probably the one that will get hit most and causes most problems. Would you be able to do us the favor of also semi=protecting it? Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done, also for 6 months--Ymblanter (talk) 08:15, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Ymblanter. Me again. While I was splitting content to the Responses article, ZiaLater was also splitting content to 2019 shipping of humanitarian aid to Venezuela, which is now nominated for mainpage In The News, and ... ditto. Might you semi it as well ? It's the article where the hottest topics are covered right now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done as well. There are currently some technical issues with that article (see at its bottom) which I have no time to fix, but may be someone else could.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again (I missed your earlier note and will look at the bottom there). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Me again: I should set up a cot! Protection at Juan Guaidó expired, and issues have started. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Done this one for half a year as well--Ymblanter (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Sure, no problem--Ymblanter (talk) 21:39, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

User talk:OneLittleMouse/IP

Please protection page of User talk:OneLittleMouse/IP page from the creation of anonymous indefinite. 85.172.161.192 (talk) 11:24, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I do not see any need at this point.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:34, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I have done that today...after an incident. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 15:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Great, thanks a lot.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Fomenko

This is of course confusing - in real life the Catalans did rule the Greek islands for a while, or more specifically the Catalan Company did. And Fomenko does say "At the beginning of the war, in 1377-1378 a.d.,the troops of the Navarrans invade Attica and con-quer it ([195], page 265). The primary initiator of the war, the Corinthian ruler Nerio, acts as an ally ofthe Navarrans who invade the Duchy of Athens, which is still under Catalan rule at this point". That was a real conflict apparently between the Catalan Company and the Navarrese Company and it was in Greece, not Spain. And of course isn't really between "troops of the Navarrans" etc. In fact the Duchy of Athens was under the Crown of Aragon although I guess it might have been controlled by Catalans, reading the Crown of Aragon article. So I'm reverting you, ok? Doug Weller talk 16:57, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Ok, good. I still think it could be formulated in a less confusing way, but unfortunately I do not have time right now to deal with it.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:13, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
I see you have edited it so that now it is formulated properly. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

ru:WP:SPI help

Hi, could you glance at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:RTY9099_reported_by_User:Sigwald_(Result:_No_violation)? I declined the request because it wasn't edit-warring, but the requesting user has said "this is a blocked user's sock" and provided a link to ru:Википедия:Проверка участников/Кориоланыч-8 as evidence. Could you confirm that RTY has been blocked as a sockpuppet there? We have a recent Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Кориоланыч/Archive, but RTY9099 isn't included in that request. Nyttend (talk) 22:45, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Nyttend:, they are blocked there for block evasion, but in the SPI page CU has indeed confirmed that this is Кориоланыч.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
OK, blocked with a rationale referencing the Russian CU. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikitionary

Can Wikitionary be used to contest reliable source(s), specifically Encyclopaedia Iranica? Per here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:49, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Wiktionary is not a reliable source.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:23, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you sir. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:18, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Sure, no problem--Ymblanter (talk) 17:22, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Bad protection

There's no need to protect 5 hours after all the dispute have come to a stand-still. Please un-protect.WBGconverse 19:18, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I restored the ec protection. If disruption resumes, you will another admin to sort this mess out.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
@Winged Blades of Godric: I requested protection at RFPP at the time that editing disputes were ongong, as I consider myself involved here, but then I went to do something else for the day and couldn't follow up. If my request didn't get actioned until several hours after the dispute was resolved then I agree with resetting to ec, and apologies for the minor inconvenience. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
I protected indeed four hours after the edit-warring stopped, but the edit-warring itself was going on for about five hours, and it was not unreasonable to assume that it could resume. However, after being aggressively attacked like this I have no desire to return to the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:41, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Sincere apologies to you; if you perceived my note as aggressive. I did not intend it to be so:-( WBGconverse 18:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
This is fine, but next time you choose a topic title at the talk page of someone who was trying to close the RFPP requests nobody else at te time cared to close to be "Bad protection", you probably should not be surprised that this someone feels it as aggressive.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Regrets, that was a bad choice. I intended to leave a short note but it came out to be way terse:( Your actions over RFPP are immensely valued:-) WBGconverse 18:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Ivanvector, I can be fairly blamed for my part in quasi-edit-warring:-( When you deal with a bunch of nationalist SPAs sprouting random nonsense (and effectively stonewalling); it's a bit frustrating but I ought to have conducted myself better.
But, by the time YmBlanter tended to the request, the article was stable for hours and the traces of revert-warring had long died. And since then, the article had been stable despite his un-protection:-) WBGconverse 18:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Help re. SPI on ru.wikipedia

Hi Ymblanter, I was wondering if you could help. I came across this SPI on ru wikipedia which may be relevant on en wikipedia. See also User talk:Sir_Sputnik#Cross language Wikipedia sock - advice. I think this may warrant to be raised as SPI over here, but I wanted to be sure I have all the facts before raising. The google translation of the Russian SPI does not make much sense, so I was wondering if you could help me understand the gist of it. Many thanks!! pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 19:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

The Russian SPI is very clear, I blocked indef.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 19:56, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Sure, no problem.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:58, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Small discovery from looking at this. Openlydialectic = Niqabu, however Niqabu also appears to be Paral Aydzen based on the cu log. The technical evidence is that they have had the same static IP for at least two and a half years in common. Same article as the other. No sleepers seen while looking.
  Berean Hunter (talk) 20:36, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Qingshang listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Qingshang. Since you had some involvement with the Qingshang redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for notification.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:15, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Admin availability

Hi. Would you be available to take action right now if I were to email you with a revdelrequest? Many thanks Nick Moyes (talk) 12:36, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes:, yes, I can do it (assuming it is not a 1000 edits or smth, I only have about an hour).--Ymblanter (talk) 12:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Nope, just two. Drafting something for you now. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Protection of the page Kanthapuram A.P. Aboobacker Musliyar

First of all thank you for protecting the page as per my request at Wikipedia:Request for page protection. In spite of the protection, there is continuous edit warring and vandalism in this page as well as in the related page Grand Mufti of India which is also protected. This user is edit warring in the page saying the sources used are paid media and are not reliable. In fact, all the mainstream media has covered the event and the sources used in the page are major national newspapers. I asked the user to provide a source with a conflicting claim which he could not. I request you to kindly look into the pages and advise whether I should go for Wikipedia:Extended confirmed protection or a higher protection level. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Please warn the user again, and, if they continue, I am going to block them.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Never mind, I warned them myself.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:41, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks Ymblanter for doing that. But the user seems to ignore the warning and is inclined to continue edit warring and vandalism. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I of course do not know what they are inclined to, but they did not edit after my warning yet.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Okay, sorry. Because I had to revert an edit of the user from two pages, I thought it was after your warning. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 17:10, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
No problem, please let me know if disruptive editing resumes.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

The user is continuing removing sourced information from the page. He/she is replying at the talk page but still repeating personal opinion on the matter and is unable to provide any references to substantiate it. Please see the discussion pages as well and decide whether the user's editing pattern qualifies for a ban. Thanks. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 19:20, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Started with 48h block--Ymblanter (talk) 19:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Invasion of Normandy

Re: your recent protection of this article. Thank you for the prompt response, but I noticed the page is only protected to "autoconfirmed or confirmed" access, which only requires 10 edits & 4 days to achieve. One of the DE accounts made 33 consecutive edits to the page while another one made 11 consecutive edits. Both accounts have reached the requisite number of edits to access the page, with just with their disruptive edits alone and will reach the 4-day minimum tomorrow/the next day, before the 7-day protection expires, essentially rendering this level of protection as ineffectual. Would it possible to increase the protection to "extended confirmed"? Thank you - wolf 17:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

We may not use extended confirmed before it has been demonstrated that semi-protection was not effective. In this sense no, I can not change the protection now. On the other hand, if the accounts are clearly disruptive, they should be blocked.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:36, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Revdels

Hi - just sent you some revdel requests via email - Hope this was OK. Gricehead (talk) 11:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Sure, just done all of them. This is an LTA active for about a year.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:53, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Moore's law

On 28 February you temporarily protected Moore's law. We are still getting edits promoting an outfit from Taiwan who made a single diode (not an entire chip) that (according to the source) "has the potential to move beyond Moore’s Law".

Would this be a good candidate for pending changes protection? --Guy Macon (talk) 18:25, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

The disruption IMO is still too intensive for pending changes. I applied three weeks semi, let us see what happens when it expires.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! Let's hope that the disruption doesn't follow Moore's law, doubling every two years. :) --Guy Macon (talk) 22:31, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. Let me know if disruption resumes.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:54, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

The Categorisation Barnstar
for your great work at WP:CFDS, processing most of the huge stream of listings. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:05, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk: Kylie Jenner#Less Redundant Use of She. Same Goes For Kourtney/Khloe.

This is an edit semi protected request that I did to Kim Kardashian a while ago. The main idea of this improvement is that her surname shouldn't be used more than once after opening sentence of her occupations of a model/TV personality respectively.

Now on to the main story. You have to do something to Kourtney Khloe and Kylie of having their surnames being repeated after opening sentences of said professions instead of she. Why? Cause it sounds REALLY repetitive and trite.

The former two should have Kardashian follow their leads while the latter is a Jenner. Seriously you should take this edit semi protected request.

Au revoir,

67.81.163.178 (talk) 13:47, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

You must be confusing me with somebody. I do not think I have even ever heard of them.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Derwick and founder

Me again. I have put in a request at RFPP. It is beyond the usual because of the history of paid editing, and now the fury directed at this company and its founder. Perhaps you have time to look in to it? Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

My apologies, I was offline for two hours, and the request was acted on. If it turns out that the protection has been insufficient, we can alwaye increase the level.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again ... there is just too much to keep up with. I think I cleaned up the citations, and most of the BLP stuff, but no time to do more. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:40, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Sockpuppets of Craft37by

I see that you left a message on 134.17.6.120 (talk · contribs)'s talk page. This and many other IPs are sockpuppets of Craft37by (talk · contribs). You can find more of the listed IPs at sockmaster's SPI case. – Sabbatino (talk) 09:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

And by the nature of 109.126.148.163 (talk · contribs)'s edits it looks like this is the same person. – Sabbatino (talk) 09:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I blocked them now--Ymblanter (talk) 09:23, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

PP-declined articles vandalized again

The album articles you declined page-protection to have been targeted again by an IP, similar to the one that was blocked for vandalizing the same articles: The Rolling Stones (album), Between the Buttons, 12 X 5, The Rolling Stones Now!. Perhaps reconsider and offer page-proection, as was given to At San Quentin by you for the same reason? Dan56 (talk) 22:24, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

I do not see why this is vandalism. You probably need to ask someone else (and I am going to sleep anyway).--Ymblanter (talk) 22:41, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
They are deleting specific (verified) content from these articles. Good night. Dan56 (talk) 22:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thank you for helping me out with closing CfDs. I know that its not the most appreciated admin job, but without admins to list NACs for processing I wouldn't be able to help out, so thank you for trusting me with the closures and for making the edits necessary to carry them out. DannyS712 (talk) 20:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, no problem.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:19, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Typo in close

Hi. I think you made a typo in this edit, now at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/CXT#Activating Abuse Filter - if the WMF team cones with good suggestion - is this meant to be comes? (or comes up?) (How did I stumble across this, you may ask - I was curious about the history of Special:AbuseFilter/782). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:14, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, it must have been comes. I am unable to see my own typos, in addition, English is not my mother tongue, and I make a lot of such errors. This one was more than two years ago, a typo did not lead to any misunderstanding, and I am inclined to leave it as it is.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ymblanter: Okay. Just thought you might want to know. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:45, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Karl Urban and RFPP

Hi Ymblanter! I hope you're doing well and that life is happy for you. :-) I was making my normal rounds through the admin noticeboards and request pages and saw that you responded to a protection request for Karl Urban. You applied pending changes protection to the article, but responded to the request stating that you applied semi protection to it. Given the article's history, I'm pretty sure that you just responded with the incorrect template and that you applied the protection level that was intended. I just wanted to message you about it and let you know; I went ahead and fixed it for you. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I indeed intended to apply (and applied) a pending changes protection. Shit happens.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2019/03#expres.online

Добрый день. Можете перенаправить этот запрос на кого-либо технически грамотного админа? Я просто не понимаю сути проблемы: добавить ссылку в статью я не могу, но при этом и сам сайт и какая-либо часть ссылки отсутствуют в блэк-листах EnWiki и Меты. --Wanderer777 (talk) 12:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Давайте ещё пару дней подождём, я перенёс вниз (тут темы добавляются снизу, а не сверху), и задал вопрос. Если так и не будет никакой реакции, я что-нибудь придумаю.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Спасибо. --Wanderer777 (talk) 04:50, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Miklós Horthy article

Hi,

Ip (177.42.154.52) disruption is soon permanent in this page, please add some protection. Thank You (KIENGIR (talk) 00:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC))

I warned them--Ymblanter (talk) 06:28, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, your warning worked in this article, but the IP turned to the Category:Kingdom of Hungary (1920–1946), and despite already two discussions in two different pages after three reverts made this edit [], though the IP address altered a little bit: (177.207.150.217)...does it worth to post to this an edit warring notice, or because the address is different, I have to assume that is another user? Thank you for your time.(KIENGIR (talk) 17:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC))
 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 17:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Quick facts Six years! ...
Precious
Six years!
Close

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:59, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for your help with the large WP:RfPP backlog! Keep up the great work! ~Swarm~ {talk} 09:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Big Time Rush (band)

That is the best move right now. Thanks. Per WP:STATUSQUO, though, you may want to restore the article to this version before all of this started. I'll leave the decision up to you, of course. Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. I would prefer not to - this is not such a big deal, and hopefully the talk page discussion would decide which version is preferable.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Mar 24 NFOOTY AfDs

Hi Ymblanter, regarding your recent dozen or so AfD nominations of footballers todays... are these eligible for CSD A7 (db-person) and if not, why not? The claim to significance does not seem credible (one of the requirements of WP:CSD#A7) if it clearly doesn't pass the subject notability guideline (i.e., doesn't meet NFOOTY) and without any references cited at all, there's no credible claim of significant coverage to meet GNG. (If it wasn't for the Soccerway links, it would be a BLPPROD, right?)

Another, related question: these are all created on one day by one editor. None apparently have any indicia of notability. In fact, the indicia on these articles is that their subjects are not notable. If I want to !vote to delete, I have to now go and do a BEFORE search for a dozen youth players to confirm that they're not notable? As would any other !voter? That's a ton of work. It seems nonsensical. Tomorrow, the same editor can create 12 more of these–we can create stubs about youth footballers until the cows come home, we'll never keep up AfDing them one by one. Do you think this is a problem? If so, what should be done?

Third question, if you'll indulge me: I see this (creation of non-notable footy stubs) as the same thing as the portals, and the same thing as mass categorization. But they get treated so disparately. In one case, we rollback. In another, we AfD each, one by one. In a third, we have RfCs to figure out what to do. It seems so inconsistent, yet after 18 years, how do we not have a procedure for handling the mass-creation or mass-editing of anything? Especially after such high profile past instances of mass-creation of stuff? I guess my question is: if we have to go through these FOOTY creations one by one to delete them, how come we don't have to go through the white supremacist nationalist categorizations one by one before rolling those back? To be clear: I'm not suggesting anyone did anything wrong in either case or anyone should do anything different, I'm just seeking to understand why things that I see as the same are seen by others as different.

I appreciate any time you take to answer my questions. Thank you. Levivich 21:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

1) Indeed, they are eligible for PROD, most of them even for BLPPROD (most Soccerway links are bogus), and I guess I could delete them via A7. However, I noticed that the creator has a couple of these articles moved to draft, and they immediately recreated them in the main space (I deleted both drafts today). After the first four nominations I left a fairly strong message at the talk page of the creator, but they did not edit at least until the end of the nominations. One article was previously deleted. It is generally safer to have them go once through AfD because then every recreation can be speedy deleted as A5. 2)-3) Concerning mass deletions: if I remember correctly, you have participated in the GS case recently. The crux of the case was that someone in good faith was performing for many years mass actions which he thought were according to the policies, and then suddenly it turned out that some users (and, in particular, some vocal users) think this is quite contrary to the policy, and demands of blocks, bans, and desysops were suddenly in the air. I personally think (well, I am actually quite sure) these articles are not notable, but it would be enough to have one vocal user to point out that I A7-deleted 20 articles which might have been notable and then I am suddenly in the spot with all kind of shit being thrown into me. I have been there, and I do not like it. Even if the Arbcom decides after half a year that I was likely correct. If the user continues creating such articles after my warning, we have means to deal with them. If not - 20 articles is smth the community can handle. I spent in the morning 2 hours of my time cleaning up RFPP, and even if I have taken 20 minutes extra time from the community by sending these articles to AfD I am still on a net good side.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
And at least one of the PRODs I mentioned was indeed removed . It seems like the options are either AfD or CSD A7.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
You may find this familiar: Ouk Sovann Levivich 01:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, deleted and blocked for two weeks.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:46, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Protection of Kamrupi dialect

Thank you for protecting Kamrupi dialect, can you protect the original version predating edit war ?भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 23:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I would prefer not to, see WP:WRONGVERSION for this.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:17, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I understand, the issue in current version is large original content and citations are removed without consensus.Thanks.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 06:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Yes. though your opponents are probably thinking differently, but nobody going to die if it stays like this for three days. I checked that there is no obvious vandalism and no BLP violations in the current version.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I agree, maybe i have to engaged them somewhere for consensus building.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 07:33, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@Bhaskarbhagawati: Yes, engaging in the discussion would be a good first step. The call went out to you directly to help improve the article, here: Talk:Kamrupi_dialect#Improving_this_article. Please engage there. Chaipau (talk) 11:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I am already there, issue is not new, analysis, fast checking and removal of reliable sources is going on from long time since 2012 over different articles, despite wp:rsn informed not to do so.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 11:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Your Cambodian WP:NFOOTY AfD nominations

Whack!
You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Hi Ymblanter, just a note about your recent NFOOTY noms. Some of them (though not all) do quite easily pass NFOOTY (eg. Paulo Victor Costa Soares‎, Alexis Ramos etc.). Please remember WP:BEFORE when nominating a large amount of seemingly similar articles - some might be notable for inclusion and only require clean-up. I do note, however, that those articles were (and still are to a slightly lesser extent) horribly written and you could have easily BLPPRODed them so props to you for letting the community decide as, hopefully, doing so will result in the notable players been kept and a solid article being written on them. Cheers, Tropicanan (talk) 10:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I do not see any evidence that any of them played for the international team, and none of the articles claims that. I only see claims of U-23 team which does not create notability.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:10, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
And thank you for teaching me the Wikipedia policies. It is particularly valuable to get taught by a user with 2 weeks tenure and 130 edits.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


Just because an article doesn't state something doesn't mean it is not true. Research! All the ones I'm !voting keep for played (started or were substituted on) in an international match vs Bangladesh a few weeks ago (1). Also, ever heard of IP editing? Or pinging? Tropicanan (talk) 11:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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