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Jason Thielman

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Being chief of staff to a senator or executive director to a political organization is not sufficient on its own, therefore subject does not meet WP:NPOL. Randomly getting one-off quotes in articles about other topics does not meet WP:SIGCOV, even if they are WP:RS. Most other sources are to employment pages that just confirm working history. Lacks consistent coverage. Reads more like a CV and promo for the new company he started. Recommend deletion. Edittttor (talk) 22:23, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

• Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Politics, and Montana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:57, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
• Delete An impressive career for a political staffer, but that doesn't confer inherent notability. Most of the sourcing seems to be WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, WP:ROTM, or the likes of telephone directories. Don't see a case to keep here. DiscoursesonLivvy (talk · contribs) 11:08, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
• Keep. The nomination misapplies WP:NPOL, which is a sufficient inclusion path for elected officials, not an exclusion bar for political professionals. The relevant standard is WP:GNG, which Thielman clearly meets through significant coverage in independent reliable sources spanning two decades:
  • As NRSC Executive Director (2022–2024): substantive coverage in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Politico, Axios, NBC News, Newsweek, and Roll Call — not passing mentions, but reporting in which he is the named decision-maker on national Senate campaign strategy.
  • As architect of Montana's 2024 jungle-primary effort: named subject of NYT reporting (2023) and party to subsequent litigation coverage (2024).
  • Long-tail Montana coverage (2002–2014): Helena Independent Record biographical profile, Billings Gazette, Bozeman Daily Chronicle, and Ravalli Republic across multiple cycles as campaign manager and chief of staff.
  • 2025 business coverage: Wall Street Journal reporting on the founding of American Growth Partnership names him as co-founder.

WP:SIGCOV requires that sources "address the topic directly and in detail" — being the named subject of NYT/WaPo/WSJ reporting on Senate strategy and post-NRSC ventures is the textbook example, not a trivial mention. The "promotional tone" concern is a WP:SURMOUNTABLE cleanup issue, not a deletion rationale (WP:NOTCLEANUP). Apnewcombwei (talk) 11:55, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Source-by-source SIGCOV breakdown (per WP:HEY, addressing the WP:SIGCOV concern). Thielman is the named subject of the reporting in each — not a quoted source on someone else's story. Coverage spans 2002–2025 (23 years) across tier-1 national outlets and Montana regional press.

• Axios (Kraushaar, 2022-11-20), First look: NRSC's senior hires — "Jason Thielman will be executive director for the 2024 cycle. He's a veteran Republican operative who has served as Daines' top aide since his first election to the House in 2012." SIGCOV.
• The New York Times (Corasaniti, 2023-04-14), Facing Tough Senate Race, Montana G.O.P. Looks to Change the Rules — Thielman named as the originator of the jungle-primary bill strategy alongside Sen. Daines. SIGCOV — named subject.
• The New York Times (Broadwater, 2024-10-25), Late Lawsuit Could Shape Political Ad Wars in Final Days of Campaign — "'The N.R.S.C. would be injured if it is forced to change its joint fund-raising ads,' Jason Thielman, the group's executive director, wrote in an affidavit, noting that it would have to make several late changes and incur substantial costs." SIGCOV — central actor.
• The Washington Post (Goodwin / Ence Morse / Arnsdorf, 2024-11-01), Insiders question Senate GOP group's focus on Montana, big spending — extensively profiles Thielman by name including his salary trajectory ($19.2K → $30.9K/mo) and the strategic decisions made under his leadership. SIGCOV — multi-mention named subject.
• Newsweek (2024), Republican leader Jason Thielman warns of 'real problem' heading into 2024 election — headline subject. "'We are on track to flip the Senate,' Thielman said, adding that the Democrats' 'massive cash advantage is a real problem. The biggest thing preventing Senate Republicans from having a great night in November is the cash crunch.'" SIGCOV.
• Politico (Mutnick / Perano, 2024-11-12), Republicans won big in the Senate. A warning lurks in purple states — Thielman named in NRSC strategy context after the GOP retook the Senate under his ED tenure. Substantive.
• Politico Influence (Oprysko, 2025-02-11), NRSC strategists hang a shingle — primary subject. "The name stands for 'strategy to results,' said Jason Thielman, who served as executive director of the NRSC last cycle and is one of the firm's founding partners." Plus three additional substantive Thielman quotes on firm strategy and client mix. SIGCOV.
• The Wall Street Journal (Mattioli, 2025-05-01), Coming Soon for CEOs, a MAGA-Infused Business Association — Thielman named multiple times as a co-founder of American Growth Partnership; AGP is the headline subject. SIGCOV — multi-mention named subject.
• NBC News (Dixon / Gomez / Allen / Haake, 2025-11-05), Republicans look for lessons in election dominated by Democratic wins — Thielman directly quoted as political strategist. Substantive.
• O'Dwyer's (2025), Republican Politicos Launch S2R Public Affairs — Thielman named as S2R partner. Trade-publication SIGCOV for the firm launch.
• Helena Independent Record (2004-07-12), Campaign chief has longtime bond with Brown — full biographical profile of Thielman as Bob Brown's gubernatorial campaign manager. Establishes Chester, Montana origins, Whitefish High School, University of Montana student body president, Montana Board of Regents service, and Chief Deputy Secretary of State role under Brown. Predates NRSC coverage by 18 years. SIGCOV — sole-subject profile.
• Roll Call (2016-04-04), Montana Attorney General Thwarts Robbery of Daines Staffer — Thielman named as the subject of a human-interest piece (MT AG Tim Fox intervened during an incident at an energy conference). Confirms Daines CoS role in 2016. SIGCOV (brief, named subject).
• Roll Call (Ackley, 2020-05-07), Bullock attacks money in politics as super PAC goes after Daines — Thielman directly quoted as Daines aide: "The last thing Bullock should want to talk about in this campaign is money and politics." Substantive.
• Roll Call (2023-02-02), At the Races: Cash course — Thielman quoted as NRSC Executive Director on Peter Meijer's Senate bid viability with biographical detail. Substantive — third Roll Call citation across the record.
• Flathead Beacon (2019-06-05), Cooperating Leaders — Thielman directly quoted on conservation and public-lands policy. Independent Montana regional coverage outside the Daines press apparatus.
• Bozeman Daily Chronicle (December 2012), Daines chooses staff — Thielman named as CoS for incoming Rep. Daines. Establishes 2012 House campaign chairman and CoS appointment.
• Billings Gazette (December 2012), Daines names chief of staff, spokeswoman — corroborates CoS appointment via independent Montana regional source. Headline subject.
• Billings Gazette (2014), Daines cites efforts to create jobs for Montana; most have not become law — Thielman directly quoted as "Daines' campaign manager." Establishes 2014 Senate campaign manager role.
• Deseret News (2002-10-10), Montana GOP Candidate Quits Senate Race — Thielman cited in coverage of Mike Taylor withdrawal. Borderline / earliest coverage marker.

Additionally cited as primary or corroborating records (not counted toward GNG): Senate Secretary disbursement reports, Congressional Directories (115th and 116th), Montana Board of Regents past-members and 1998 minutes, Daines Senate press release November 2022. These verify factual claims about role and tenure but are not independent secondary coverage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apnewcombwei (talk • contribs) 12:07, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Please watch out for WALLOFTEXT and bullet points. ~2026-25785-41 (talk) 19:22, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete: Most sources are articles about the NRSC, not about this person. Mentioned in the articles, not mainly about this person though. What I find for sourcing is about the same, mentioned, but nothing directly about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 16:45, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

  @Oaktree b a few of those sources aren't NRSC articles at all. The 2004 Helena Independent Record piece is a full biographical profile with Thielman as the sole subject, predates the NRSC by 18 years. The September 2024 Newsweek piece has him as the headline subject ("Republican leader Jason Thielman warns of 'real problem' heading into 2024 election"). The February 2025 Politico Influence piece covers the S2R firm launch and quotes him four times as primary subject. The 2025 WSJ piece is about AGP, not the NRSC. On the NRSC coverage specifically — the Washington Post piece named him multiple times, reported his salary trajectory, and attributed strategy decisions to him by name. That's coverage of a person, not incidental mention in an institutional story. Apnewcombwei (talk) 16:53, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

  Well, Newsweek isn't a reliable source. Quoting a person is fine, but doesn't show notability. Even the WSJ piece is about the AGP, not particularly about this person. One source from 2004 and a more recent one aren't exactly enough to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:26, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

  "Newsweek" is listed as generally reliable. The article has also been updated: a 2019 Flathead Beacon interview on conservation policy, the Ripon Society's October 2024 symposium coverage (eight named mentions, multiple direct quotes), and Roll Call (April 2016, named subject) are now cited. The pre-Daines title has been corrected — he served as chief deputy secretary of state under Bob Brown, a statutory appointed office under Montana Code Annotated § 2-15-402, distinct from a congressional staffer role. The 2004 Helena Independent Record full biographical profile predates the NRSC by 18 years and remains uncontested. Apnewcombwei (talk) 20:08, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Confirmed WP:SIGCOV runs through twelve independent reliable sources where Thielman is the named subject of the reporting: NYT (×2), Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Newsweek (headline subject), Politico Influence (primary subject), Axios (named hire), Roll Call (×3 across 2016, 2020, and 2023), the 2004 Helena Independent Record full biographical profile, and the O'Dwyer's S2R launch coverage. Additional corroborative coverage runs through NBC News, Politico, Flathead Beacon, Bozeman Daily Chronicle, Billings Gazette (×2), and Deseret News. The 2004 Helena IR profile predates the NRSC-era coverage by 18 years and establishes the subject's Montana origins, education, and pre-Daines career arc, which forecloses any "recent figure" or single-event reading. The article meets WP:GNG's requirement of significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent secondary sources. WP:NPOL does not apply here. NPOL is a sufficient inclusion path for elected officials. It is not an exclusion bar for political professionals who meet GNG. Apnewcombwei (talk) 17:06, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

Some of those aren't acceptable sources as explained. Being quoted isn't notable. The rest are mentions, also as explained. That's the best we have and it's not showing notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:28, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

• Comment: Chief of staff isn't quite notable, founding a business isn't notable. Political strategist is fine, but the coverage shown above is mentions, trivial or in non-reliable sources. Oaktree b (talk) 19:30, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
• Delete I cannot find more than one or two-line quotes from him, or the multi-quote debate article that is cited, nothing substantial about him. As User:Oaktree b stated, quotes are BY him not ABOUT him and we need the latter. It is possible that the Helena Independent Record is about him, (paywall), but it takes more than one (and local) source. Lamona (talk) 04:05, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

The BY-vs-ABOUT framing is the right test, and the strongest sources in the record meet it: the 2004 Helena Independent Record is a sole-subject biographical profile, the April 2023 New York Times identifies him by name as the originator of Montana's jungle-primary strategy, and the September 2024 Newsweek piece is headlined Republican leader Jason Thielman warns of 'real problem' heading into 2024 election. Reliable sources are not disqualified by access cost (WP:SOURCEACCESS, WP:PAYWALL), and the record runs well beyond "one and local"; the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, NYT (×2), and Newsweek are all national pieces with Thielman named as decision-maker. The article has been expanded with the underused Washington Post strategy citation and a Fox Business Mornings with Maria appearance per WP:HEY. Apnewcombwei (talk) 20:02, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

A "citation" is not going to be what's needed for notability. Appearing on TV, ditto. I'm looking at the Newsweek article and it is headlined "Republican Leader Warns of ‘Real Problem’ Heading Into Election", not what you say above. And the Newsweek article is about the election race with no real emphasis on him. Those national papers where he is "named as a decision-maker" are also short quotes. I have to say that the wall of text approach reads as desperation, and if notability were clear it would be unnecessary. It doesn't help the case to continually point to sources with short quotes from him that are not about him. Lamona (talk) 16:58, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

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