Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Kovach (2nd nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was no consensus. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 18:07, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Michael Kovach

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Similar to the first deletion discussion, I believe the article has serious WP:SIGCOV concerns and does not pass WP:THREE. I tentatively approved the article as part of the NPR process last month after outlining my concerns at Talk:Michael Kovach#SIGCOV concerns as I believed the amount of active editors of the page could fix this issue, but after multiple weeks, the article still remains with only one good citation meeting WP:THREE. Especially for a living person bio, I believe the article should again be redirected to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters#Hazbin Hotel, or deleted. Johnson524 17:23, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Delete. I don't think there's a good target. Especially not List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters#Hazbin Hotel; he is not even mentioned, and only appears in the pilot episode!
He's probably noteworthy for N in Murder Drones or Jax from The Amazing Digital Circus, but you can't redirect to two different articles. Hence, delete. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 18:16, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
Now that I think about it, yeah such Redirect would definitely not be optimal.Toarin (talk) 15:17, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Comment: Nominator states at Talk:Michael Kovach#SIGCOV concerns that the subject passes ENT. THREE is not a notability guideline, and if the subject meets a subject-specific guideline, GNG and ANYBIO do not need to be met. —BrechtBro (talk) 16:29, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep: Er, if Kovach passes WP:ENT then WP:THREE is irrelevant. WP:THREE is an essay, it is not policy or guideline.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 19:58, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep, per Eldomtom2.
ThirdEye96 (talk) 23:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete. He is not a notable actor, needs more sources. Guz13 (talk) 02:57, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
    Comment: I fear this reply goes towards WP:JNN, and probably isn't valid? ConeKota (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete. If sources don't exist that significantly cover a subject in any meaningful way, then SNGs be damned. Even the policy regarding SNG's state that if sources don't exist on a subject then they may not warrant an article anyways. From WP:SNG itself: "Therefore, topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found, or if the topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia". Sources and significant coverage are always required. Either way, I would hardly call the works he's been involved in significant enough to make him notable under ENT. They're only popular within niche online sub-communities associated with indie animation. Very few people outside of those circles would be able to recognize those roles. λ NegativeMP1 18:50, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
  • WP:ENT says nothing about significance, only notability. And "only popular within niche online sub-communities associated with indie animation" is an odd thing to say about at least one very popular and successful show...--Eldomtom2 (talk) 22:54, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
    You are free to disagree with what I said, but it does not take away from my central argument (significant coverage still being required). λ NegativeMP1 01:15, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
Comment: Either way, I would hardly call the works he's been involved in significant enough to make him notable under ENT. They're only popular within niche online sub-communities associated with indie animation. Eh? I'm not so sure when looking at his television credits in the filmography section. The shows listed aren't typically niche sub-indie animated web cartoons produced by online creators or Glitch Productions of that manner. ConeKota (talk) 21:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
Keep kovach has had a lot of indie roles, I do think that there should be more notable sources at least TheRandomfanguy (talk) 00:31, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
Comment: If the article is deleted, do NOT redirect it to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. This specific article was previously deleted for said redirect towards Hazbin Hotel and The Amazing Digital Circus. This will be another occurrence of voice actors having a redirect article to a notable popular project because they contribute to it like Black Gryph0n or Amir Talai (before he eventually got his article).

P.S. Michael Kovach is nowhere listed on proposed article in nomination so the redirect will be deleted again regardless. ConeKota (talk) 21:13, 17 February 2026 (UTC)

  • Delete. Per @NegativeMP1. Also, some part of the coverage refs does not pass as a perennial sources. AdobongPogi masarap 🍛 04:10, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete. He's not a non-indie cartoon voice actor like his 4 idols are, maybe a page on Thom Huge should be made instead! ~2026-62172-7 (talk) 19:48, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
    Comment: Please read WP:ATA before discussing. ConeKota (talk) 00:46, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 08:26, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Svartner (talk) 10:02, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
Keep: I think Kovach could fit under WP:CREATIVE, not just from his indie web series roles but also his television credits that aren't niche sub indie web series. ConeKota (talk) 02:40, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep Notability is established by meeting WP:ENT and WP:CREATIVE.Darkm777 (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Comment (as nom) Both CREATIVE and ENT, which are being referenced a lot, respectively state that an article is likely to be notable if and may be considered notable if they meet some following criteria. By this wording, it's my understanding that even if one of these criteria are met, it does not automatically grant notability, especially if an article still has serious underlying sourcing concerns (like this one does). If this article does end up being kept for the aforementioned reasons; that'll really change my understanding of these guidelines, and I'll take this into consideration for all future reviews. Cheers! Johnson524 03:33, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
  • WP:NOTE says "topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found, or if the topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia". I agree that the current wording is confusing.--Eldomtom2 (talk) 01:28, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The arguments to keep are correct in that WP:ENT can provide an alternative path to determining whether a topic meets our guidelines for inclusion. The arguments to delete are correct in saying we still need to be able to write a policy-compliant article, although this may be a different threshold than SIGCOV. I would appreciate more discussion of whether ENT is actually met, and of whether a policy-compliant article can be written.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:40, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
  • delete fails WP:SIGCOV. The criteria in WP:ENT are not satisfied. --Altenmann >talk 18:52, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
    Can you elaborate on why you feel the article fails WP:ENT?--Eldomtom2 (talk) 20:13, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete. Cited to unreliable social media posts. Only passing mentions in the few pieces WP:RS. Lacks in-depth coverage that is clearly independent of the subject. If there were some decent coverage of his voice over work I could possibly see an WP:NACTOR pass, but given the article is resorting to obviously bad citation practices to twitter I'm not willing to entertain that argument. Fails WP:BASIC.4meter4 (talk) 21:49, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
    There are brief mentions of his performance, such as:
    decider.com, Michael Kovach’s character N is goofy and silly, and he’s a murder drone we want to root for. and Despite still being a one-dimensional character, we liked Michael Kovach’s performance as the near-sociopathic Jax.
    ThePopVerse, Michael Kovach is a delight; it’s clear Kovach took his time to understand the meter as well as the playful cadence of the words, and the result is worth listening to.
    Popculture.com, The Amazing Digital Circus is taking the internet by storm, and launching its voice-over cast to new heights – including Michael Kovach, the actor who plays Jax. Kovach is 28 years old and has an impressive voice acting resume already, as well as a big social media footprint. Here’s an introduction to Kovach, his work and the sensation that is The Amazing Digital Circus. Kovach lives in Seattle, Washington and works as a content creator on various mediums including voice acting, singing and streaming. According to IMDb, Kovach got his start on the YouTube series Danganwrestling in 2014 where he appeared in one episode voicing various characters. Kovach had a role in a video game the following year, and starting in 2016 has picked up multiple credits each year in video games and animation. Kovach is best known for playing Angel Dust in the Prime Video series Hazbin Hotel – at least until The Amazing Digital Circus took off.
    Obviously, this is not enough for WP:GNG, but I think this is comparable to the attention that people who pass WP:NACTOR get in reviews. Kelob2678 (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
decider.com isn't usable now that WP:NEWYORKPOST has been deprecated as unreliable. It's a subsidiary of the NYP. ThePopVerse is too perfunctory to meaningfully count even towards an SNG. The Popculture.com is one solid piece of evidence, but alone its not enough to establish notability.4meter4 (talk) 01:23, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
WP:DECIDER is yellow and we don't use it to source anything controversial. My point is that the coverage of him in those articles is comparable to the coverage actors get in movie reviews (a few sentences), therefore, this should be enough for him to pass WP:ENT. Kelob2678 (talk) 09:53, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
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