Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 10
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Category:Military of the People's Republic of China
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:17, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Military of the People's Republic of China to Category:Military of China
- Nominator's rationale: Both these categories are for identical purposes. All of the entries are for the PRC not any other form of China. Per WP:Commonname and Wikipedia:Category names in particular Wikipedia:TOPICCAT, we don't use formal names of countries. Categories like these with the formal names are overcat and are unnecessary subcats. One category can suffice. Also, both categories main article link is a redirect to People's Liberation Army.
Ping Marcoapelle and Mclay1 from similar discussions. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:47, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support – Anything related to previous versions of China can go in Category:Military history of China. Mclay1 (talk) 00:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, both categories (should) have content about the contemporary military. Military of the past is e.g. in Category:Military history of the Republic of China (1912–1949). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. None of the PRC categories are suitable for merging into any "of China" categories because the root category for the Republic of China Armed Forces is Category:Military of the Republic of China. There is far too much potential for confusion between categories labelled "Military of China," referring to a state whose name includes "Republic," and "Military of the Republic of China." Buckshot06 (talk) 09:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- I am confused about this response because the nomination is about the People's Republic, not about the Republic. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do you not see the a potential for confusion between "Category:Military of China" and "Category:Military of the Republic of China," especially when Cat:Military of China also refers to a Republic? The proposed change will cause too much confusion. Buckshot06 (talk) 16:30, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed with Buckshot06. - Amigao (talk) 21:13, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- No I can't see how one could confuse this with Category:Military history of the Republic of China (1912–1949), the title of that category is clearly very different. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed with Buckshot06. - Amigao (talk) 21:13, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do you not see the a potential for confusion between "Category:Military of China" and "Category:Military of the Republic of China," especially when Cat:Military of China also refers to a Republic? The proposed change will cause too much confusion. Buckshot06 (talk) 16:30, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:33, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge. It is not practically feasible to maintain separate category trees for China as a country and the present-day regime of that country. Content specific to the PRC and its military should go in Category:People's Liberation Army, whereas generic topics about Chinese military should go in the root category. Place Clichy (talk) 21:57, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Military of the People's Republic of China by province
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:17, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Military of the People's Republic of China by province to Category:Military of China by province
- Nominator's rationale: Both these categories are for identical purposes. All of the entries are for the PRC not any other form of China. Per WP:Commonname and Wikipedia:Category names in particular Wikipedia:TOPICCAT, we don't use formal names of countries. Categories like these with the formal names are overcat and are unnecessary subcats. One category can suffice. This PRC category was recently created and should be merged into the older existing cat.
Ping Marcoapelle and Mclay1 from similar discussions. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:45, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support – merge duplicate. Mclay1 (talk) 00:10, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. None of the PRC categories are suitable for merging into any "of China" categories because the root category for the Republic of China Armed Forces is Category:Military of the Republic of China. There is far too much potential for confusion. There is far too much potential for confusion between categories labelled "Military of China," referring to a state whose name includes "Republic," and "Military of the Republic of China." Buckshot06 (talk) 09:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- I am confused about this response because the nomination is about the People's Republic, not about the Republic. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do you not see the a potential for confusion between "Category:Military of China" and "Category:Military of the Republic of China," especially when Cat:Military of China also refers to a Republic? The proposed change will cause too much confusion. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:11, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- No I can't see how one could confuse this with Category:Military history of the Republic of China (1912–1949), the title of that category is clearly very different. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:00, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do you not see the a potential for confusion between "Category:Military of China" and "Category:Military of the Republic of China," especially when Cat:Military of China also refers to a Republic? The proposed change will cause too much confusion. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:11, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:33, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge. I think Category:Military of Yunnan should include topics about communist, nationalist, Qing, Ming China etc. because Yunnan was a province of China during all these periods.
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Category:Puerto Rican Army personnel
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose manually merging Category:Puerto Rican Army personnel to Category:Puerto Rican military personnel
- Nominator's rationale: manually merge, while the category name seems to suggest that there was a Puerto Rican Army, the scope of the category in fact coincides with that of the parent category. Manually merge, because people who are merely of Puerto Rican descent do not belong in the tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Prussian politicians
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Prussian politicians to Category:Politicians from the Kingdom of Prussia
- Nominator's rationale: rename aligning with Category:People from the Kingdom of Prussia and in the time of the Duchy of Prussia there weren't any political institutions yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:55, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- rename per nom. LibStar (talk) 02:39, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:35, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Battle for Dream Island lists
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one item in the category. Maybe a "Battle for Dream Island" category would work, but a category which only has a list (which is currently being discussed at AfD, although it'll probably survive last I checked) doesn't need to exist. --not-cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 17:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom Wikiman2230 (talk) 22:45, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:59, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:36, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Regents of India
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Regents of India to Category:Regents in India
- Nominator's rationale: rename, the current title suggests they were regent of all of India, while in fact they were a regent in a particular state in India. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:53, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Defence companies of the People's Republic of China
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Defence companies of the People's Republic of China to Category:Defence companies of China
- Nominator's rationale: Both these categories appear to be for identical purposes. All of the entries are for the PRC not any other form of China. Per WP:Commonname, we don't use formal names of countries. Categories like these with the formal names are overcat and are unnecessary subcats. One category can suffice.
Ping User:Marcocapelle and Mclay1 from a similar discussion. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:32, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, hypothetically we could have a history category such as Category:Defence companies of the Republic of China but it seems that all current content is PRC-related. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support – The parent category has very little if any non-PRC content to require diffusion. Mclay1 (talk) 00:08, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Northern-born Confederates
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. User:Namiba 17:25, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:00, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:39, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Prisoners and detainees of the People's Republic of China
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Prisoners and detainees of the People's Republic of China to Category:Prisoners and detainees of China
- Propose merging Category:Prisoners sentenced to death by the People's Republic of China to Category:Prisoners sentenced to death by China
- Propose merging Category:Foreign nationals imprisoned in the People's Republic of China to Category:Foreign nationals imprisoned in China
- Propose merging Category:Prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment by the People's Republic of China to Category:Prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment by China
- Propose merging Category:People convicted of murder by the People's Republic of China to Category:People convicted of murder by China
- Nominator's rationale: All these categories appear to be for identical purposes. All of the entries are for the PRC not any other form of China. Per WP:Commonname, we don't use formal names of countries. Categories like these with the formal names are overcat and are unnecessary subcats. One category can suffice. Plus, Foreign nationals imprisoned in the People's Republic of China also has some entries already included in Foreign nationals imprisoned in China.
Ping User:Marcocapelle and Mclay1 from a similar discussion. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:20, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, trivial intersection, and we do not divide these by any other periods in the history of China. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:40, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support merge per non-defining intersection. SMasonGarrison 21:34, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support – The PRC is the default China. There are no subcats for other versions of China. Mclay1 (talk) 00:04, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:40, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Ethnicities of Karnataka
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 21#Category:Ethnicities of Karnataka
Chinese Communist Party secretaries
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * it has begun... 01:51, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming: Category:Chinese Communist Party secretaries of Guangdong to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Guangdong
- Propose merging : Category:Secretaries-general of the Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Guangdong
- Propose renaming: Category:Chinese Communist Party secretaries of Guangxi to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Guangxi
- Propose renaming: Category:Chinese Communist Party secretaries of Guizhou to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Guizhou
- Propose renaming: Category:Chinese Communist Party secretaries of Hunan to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Hunan
- Propose renaming: Category:Chinese Communist Party secretaries of Sichuan to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Sichuan
- Propose renaming: Category:CCP committee secretaries of Heilongjiang to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Heilongjiang
- Propose renaming: Category:CCP committee secretaries of Henan to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Henan
- Propose renaming: Category:Communist Party committee secretaries of Taiyuan to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Taiyuan
- Propose keeping: Category:Communist Party secretaries of Rehe Province
- Propose keeping: Category:Communist Party secretaries of Xi'an
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Fujian to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Fujian
- Propose merging : Category:Secretaries-general of the Fujian Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Fujian
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Gansu to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Gansu
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Hebei to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Hebei
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Hubei to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Hubei
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Jiangsu to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Jiangsu
- Propose merging : Category:Secretaries-general of the Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Jiangsu
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Shaanxi to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Shaanxi
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Shanxi to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Shanxi
- Propose renaming: Category:Party secretaries of Tianjin to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Tianjin
- Propose renaming: Category:Secretaries of the Beijing Municipal Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Beijing
- Propose renaming: Category:Secretaries of the Shanghai Municipal Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Shanghai
- Propose renaming: Category:Secretaries-general of the Jiangxi Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Jiangxi
- Propose renaming: Category:Secretary of the CCP Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee to Category:Communist Party secretaries of Xinjiang
- Propose merging : Category:Provincial secretaries-general to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Jiangsu
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Jiangxi
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Shaanxi
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Shanxi
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Sichuan
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Yunnan
- Propose keeping: Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Zhejiang
- Propose renaming: Category:Deputy party secretaries of Anhui to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Anhui
- Propose renaming: Category:Deputy party secretaries of Fujian to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Fujian
- Propose merging: Category:Deputy party secretaries of Hebei to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Hebei
- Propose renaming: Category:Deputy party secretaries of Hubei to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Hubei
- Propose renaming: Category:Deputy party secretaries of Hunan to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Hunan
- Propose renaming: Category:Deputy party secretaries of Qinghai to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Qinghai
- Propose renaming: Category:Deputy secretaries-general of the Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Guangdong
- Nominator's rationale: the Party Secretary is the de facto highest political office in a Chinese province, city, village, or other administrative unit. This nomination seeks to align category names within Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries to a format chosen in this previous discussion. @Bibliomaniac15, Good Olfactory, Fayenatic london, Oculi, Justus Nussbaum, Marcocapelle, and Peterkingiron: pinging participants.
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Category:Companies acquired from Jews under Nazi rule
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Companies acquired from Jews under Nazi rule to Category:Companies confiscated from Jews under Nazi rule
- Nominator's rationale Change "acquired" to "confiscated". The Aryanization of businesses was not just a matter of acquiring property like it was a business transaction. It was forcible confiscation of property. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 14:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Television shows in Georgia (country)
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * it has begun... 01:50, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Television shows in Georgia (country) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Television shows from Georgia (country)
- Propose renaming Category:Georgia (country) television series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Television series from Georgia (country)
- Propose renaming Category:Comedy television series in Georgia (country) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Comedy television series from Georgia (country)
- Propose renaming Category:Georgian adult animated comedy television series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Adult animated comedy television series from Georgia (country)
- Nominator's rationale: By long-standing convention, Georgia (country) uses a different naming format for categories from most other countries; instead of "FOOian foos", it uses "Foos from Georgia (country)". However, the category tree for Georgian TV shows is inconsistent in its naming. This proposal will align the television categories with Category:Films from Georgia (country). But if not this suggestion, then just something else that is more consistent than what we currently have. Mclay1 (talk) 13:12, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- At least change the 4th one from "Georgian" to "from Georgia (country)". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:20, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:2-Quinolone ethers at the benzene ring
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 18#Category:2-Quinolone ethers at the benzene ring
Category:Werewolves in Greek mythology
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Werewolves in Greek mythology to Category:Metamorphoses into animals in Greek mythology
- Nominator's rationale: merge, the articles are not about werewolves, they are about metamorphoses to wolves though. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom WinstonDewey (talk) 18:22, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support – It's possible that some of the articles could be categorised under werewolves, but we don't need a category for werewolves in Greek mythology when werewolves were not really a thing in Greek mythology. Mclay1 (talk) 13:16, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:47, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:American mayors of Middle Eastern descent
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- The result of the discussion was: split to Category:American mayors of Lebanese descent and Category:American mayors of Asian descent. In other words, upmerge except for Lebanese, where there are sufficient members to justify a category, and for whom there is no consensus to merge. – Fayenatic London 11:26, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:American mayors of Middle Eastern descent to Category:American mayors of Asian descent
- Nominator's rationale: follow up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 October 31#Category:American politicians of Middle Eastern descent. Hassan697 (talk) 07:01, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:20, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Split: The Middle Eastern ancestry here mainly falls into three countries. Specifically: Alex Daoud, Donna Deegan, Abdullah Hammoud, Edward A. Hanna, Tommy Hazouri, George Latimer (Minnesota politician), Rafi Manoukian, Najwa Massad, Andre Sayegh, Francis Slay, and Jay Tibshraeny are all of Lebanese descent; Sammie Abbott, Edward L. Masry, and Andre Sayegh are all of Syrian descent; and Jimmy Delshad, Sepi Shyne, and Bob Yousefian are all of Iranian descent. I think that we should make one category for each of those groups and merge the rest into Category:American mayors of Asian descent. Looking into the listed rationale, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 October 31#Category:American politicians of Middle Eastern descent (the immediate motivation) is listed as a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 17#Category:American people of West Asian descent (the original motivation), which mentions that there is no widely agreed-upon definition of West Asia or the Caucasus, making the inclusion criterion subjective. Since Lebanon, Syria, and Iran are clearly not subjective in this way, there should be no problem with creating categories for those. After all, Category:American politicians of Lebanese descent, Category:American politicians of Syrian descent, and Category:American politicians of Iranian descent already exist and have not been nominated for deletion. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User
- An extra subcategory for Lebanese descent, with 11 articles, sure, but the other articles are ok in the general Asian category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Although there a number of Lebanese-born mayors in the category, the intersection with being Lebanese and the municipal office is likely nothing more than a coincidence. Place Clichy (talk) 16:46, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: Would your logic not also apply to Category:American mayors of Asian descent, or is there something that I am missing? Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 22:47, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- @The Nth User: That's a tough call. It seems that U.S.-related topics can't seem to do without the obsolete notion of race and split everything along the major census categories such as African Am., Asian Am., Latino, and Native Am. I acknowledge it without personally condoning it. You have to notice that when a new mayor of New York was recently elected, his national background was a large part of the coverage received, at least as much as his politics. So theoretically we could probably keep ethnicity-based categories at the politicians level instead of the mayor level. Sometimes one must aim small in order to avoid a train wreck in discussions, so upmerging national-descent mayor categories would already be an improvement. Place Clichy (talk) 17:27, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: Would your logic not also apply to Category:American mayors of Asian descent, or is there something that I am missing? Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 22:47, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Split I agree that a Lebanese category can be created due to the number of articles. Sahaib (talk) 21:12, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:47, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Annapolis, Maryland sport stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Strange and needless sub which contains almost exclusively Navy Midshipmen football team articles. User:Namiba 20:17, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- There are more of these stub categories, e.g. Category:Baton Rouge, Louisiana sport stubs. And if not kept, shouldn't it be upmerged? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:29, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Properly proposed (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2017/September), its current contents put it well past the 60-article threshold, and obviously the contents belong in this category. Nyttend (talk) 19:38, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Really have no clarity how the possible usefulness of this stub collection categories could be reasonable. Who would need it/them for navigation and what for? -- Just N. (talk) 13:57, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:51, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, it is a functional stub category. If not kept it should be merged. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Indian National Movement
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. now that cat is empty. No objection to recreation if an article is created on the same name (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:23, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Indian National Movement to Category:Indian independence movement
- Nominator's rationale: Indian National Movement
isappears to be a synonym of Indian independence movement, andcorrectlycurrently redirects there. This category, accordingly, is a synonym of Category:Indian independence movement, and should be merged there. Unclear if this meets criteria for speedy merge or redirect. Wikishovel (talk) 06:40, 10 November 2025 (UTC)- Actually there is a subtle and perhaps important difference. Indian national movement refers to a larger gamut of issues than the Indian Independence movement. The latter was focussed on independence from the British, the national movement was concerned about the nation building efforts at large. Many of the Articles, such as Discovery of India, Brahmo Samaj, Vivekananda, just to cite a few examples from a big list, would fit in the Indian national movement but not exactly in the Indian Independence movement.
- That said, I must add that I am a newcomer here, and I happily leave the decision to my more experienced colleagues. Postbox 2 (talk) 06:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Postbox 2's comment sounds plausible. It would be helpful to have a separate article about it. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:19, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Postbox 2: thanks for your reply. I'm no expert on modern Indian history, so I would certainly defer to the opinions of editors who are. Is there an article where the difference between the two is clarified, with reliable sources? Perhaps Indian National Movement should be expanded for this purpose? Wikishovel (talk) 09:51, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Not a very rounded article but nevertheless a decent one. It gives the range of issues covered under this rubric. Pls see.
- Taneja, N. (1986). Indian National Movement. Social Scientist, 14(8/9), 127–151. http://www.jstor.org/stable/3517437. Postbox 2 (talk) 11:16, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I actually meant an article on Wikipedia. If the distinction isn't already established on Wikipedia, then it's difficult to have a separate category for it. Wikishovel (talk) 11:23, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:American real estate investors
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:17, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping categories SMasonGarrison 21:51, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: are they really overlapping? At first glance an investor seems quite different from a developer. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:50, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 06:34, 10 November 2025 (UTC)- Would you prefer another merge target? My motivation was partially because there's not a real estate investors category. SMasonGarrison 21:35, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose – I don't think they're the same thing. Even though there are currently no real estate investor categories for other nationalities, both its parents, Category:American businesspeople in the real estate industry and Category:American investors, are very large, so diffusion seems worthwhile. This category is sufficiently populated to justify its existence. Mclay1 (talk) 07:07, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Mclay1. -- Just N. (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Society of Ukraine by oblast
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- The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:16, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This category tree is over-categorised with narrow subcategories. Category:Society of Ukraine by oblast only contains Category:Volyn Oblast society, which only contains Category:Organizations based in Volyn Oblast. Some of the other organisation/company layers around here may not be needed either, but these two specifically only have one subcategory. Mclay1 (talk) 05:41, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete for reasons given by nominator Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 22:49, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:56, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Honduran astronomers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Honduran astronomers to Category:Astronomers, Category:Honduran scientists and Category:Astronomy in Honduras
- Propose merging Category:Kuwaiti astronomers to Category:Arab astronomers and Category:Kuwaiti scientists
- Propose merging Category:Maldivian astronomers to Category:Astronomers
- Propose merging Category:Thai astronomers to Category:Astronomers, Category:Thai scientists and Category:Astronomy in Thailand
- Propose merging Category:Uzbekistani astronomers to Category:Astronomers, Category:Uzbekistani scientists and Category:Astronomy in Uzbekistan
- Propose merging Category:Venezuelan astronormers (note misspelling) to Category:Astronomers, Category:Venezuelan scientists and Category:Astronomy in Venezuela
- Propose merging Category:Vietnamese astronomers to Category:Astronomers and Category:Vietnamese scientists
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 05:15, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge because one-member subcategories do not reduce cluster or otherwise facilitate navigation, as the nominator and Marcocapelle touched upon. I presume that the reason that Category:Maldivian astronomers is not also listed for merging into Category:Maldivian people already listed in multiple other subcategories of Category:Maldivian people. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 02:58, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:57, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Society in the Ayutthaya Kingdom
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Society in the Ayutthaya Kingdom to Category:Ayutthaya Kingdom
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Not helpful for navigation. Mclay1 (talk) 03:19, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:57, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:German emigrants to pre-Confederation British Columbia
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:German emigrants to pre-Confederation British Columbia to Category:Immigrants to pre-Confederation British Columbia
- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated category. upmerge for now SMasonGarrison 03:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge for now, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:58, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Patras society
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge redundant category layers that are not helpful for navigation. Both only contain one subcategory. Mclay1 (talk) 02:45, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:58, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Croatian automotive pioneers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Croatian automotive pioneers to Category:Automotive pioneers
- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated. merge for now SMasonGarrison 01:30, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge for now, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:58, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. LibStar (talk) 00:14, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Clergy from Pula
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Clergy from Pula to Category:People from Pula
- Propose merging Category:Engineers from Pula to Category:People from Pula
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. underpopulated SMasonGarrison 01:27, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as above. LibStar (talk) 05:27, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge for now, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:59, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Hong Kong rock bass guitarists
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- The result of the discussion was: Triple merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:50, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Hong Kong rock bass guitarists to Category:Hong Kong bass guitarists and Category:Rock bass guitarists
- Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category inside a single-subcat category. Could be upmerged further if still considered too narrow. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:14, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at it again and thinking I might be more likely to support merging to Hong Kong guitarists and Chinese bass guitarists and deleting Category:Hong Kong bass guitarists as it would still be too narrow even after the removal of the redundant layer. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:43, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support alt merge to Category:Chinese bass guitarists and Category:Rock bass guitarists per nom, but then also merge to Category:Hong Kong guitarists. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes to all three of those, thank you. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:22, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 21:59, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:9th-century botanists
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:9th-century botanists to Category:Medieval botanists
- Nominator's rationale: isolated category. upmerge for now SMasonGarrison 01:12, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- 14th and 15th-century botanists only have one entry each and should also be looked at for this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:18, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:00, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Korean novelists by century
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Korean novelists by century to Category:Korean novelists
- Nominator's rationale: redunant category layer SMasonGarrison 00:51, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:16, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:03, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:People's Republic of China emigrants to the United States
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. While not tagged, I take the liberty include deletion of Category:People's Republic of China emigrants as well per QuietHere, this is only for removing the procedural 7-day wait for empty cat CSDs (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:26, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People's Republic of China emigrants to the United States to Category:Chinese emigrants to the United States
- Nominator's rationale: Both these categories appear to be for identical purposes. All of the entries are for the PRC not any other form of China. Per WP:Commonname, we don't use formal names of countries. Categories like these with the formal names are are overcat and are unnecessary subcats. One category can suffice. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:01, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support merge as well as deletion of Category:People's Republic of China emigrants, which contains only this as a subcat and would be empty if this discussion closes in nom's favor. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:16, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support – The current version of China should be the default for the main category. If there is need to separate out people from other versions of China, that should be done with subcategories. I will note that the start of the nomination rationale has been copied from a previous nomination of mine, but it does not apply here – not all of the entries from both of these categories are just for the PRC. I support the general intent of the nomination though. Mclay1 (talk) 02:49, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merg per Mclay1 Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:22, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per Mclay1. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. It seems there are a number of content being moved back-and-forth between China and PRC categories, however just China is fine when there is no ambiguity. Place Clichy (talk) 16:50, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:04, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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