Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 27
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Category:Alsean languages
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 03:53, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Alsean languages to Category:Alsean peoples
- Nominator's rationale: Two of the three applicable articles are about the ethnic groups, not the language(s). Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:35, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, the tribes are already in Category:Native American tribes in Oregon, the language articles is already in appropriate language categories, and the tribes articles and the language article link to each other in the body text. There is no need for a mixed bag category like this. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:40, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete the articles are adequately categorized and connected without this cstegory.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:32, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Alsea is a language isolate. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:33, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Sailors at the 2008 Vintage Yachting Games
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Sailors at the 2008 Vintage Yachting Games
- Propose deleting Category:Sailors at the 2012 Vintage Yachting Games
- Propose deleting Category:2008 Vintage Yachting Games
- Propose deleting Category:2012 Vintage Yachting Games
- Nominator's rationale: It's not defining for the total of three articles in Category:Sailors at the 2008 Vintage Yachting Games and Category:Sailors at the 2012 Vintage Yachting Games to have been at the minor events. The two other categories would then be C2F. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:43, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:42, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Ceramic art dealers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 03:46, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated category. delete for now. I've already added the two people to their respective art dealers by nationality category SMasonGarrison 14:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support delete for nominator's reasons Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 02:02, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:42, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Quakers executed in colonial America
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:17th-century Christian martyrs. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:52, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Quakers executed in colonial America to Category:17th-century Protestant martyrs
- Nominator's rationale: these two pages are already interlinked. this category isn't really helpful for navigation SMasonGarrison 03:55, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm, these Quakers were executed by Protestants, and Quakers are only borderline Protestants themselves. Other people in the target category were executed by Catholics, so the context is quite different. I think it can better be merged to Category:17th-century Christian martyrs. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep/Rename Quakers were treated quite differently than Protestants in colonial America. Sources demonstrate this Quakers executed for religious beliefs and Quakers fight for religious freedom in Puritan Massachusetts, 1656-1661. Rename to Category:Quakers executed by the Thirteen Colonies--User:Namiba 19:47, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- But there are only two pages in the category. SMasonGarrison 14:43, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename? Alt merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, if kept then rename per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- First choice: Merge to Category:17th-century Christian martyrs for Marcocapelle's reasons and small size. Second choice: Rename to Category:17th-century Quaker martyrs Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 07:20, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:17th-century Christian martyrs. Note that Boston martyrs is currently in the Protestant sub-cat, so should then be removed from there. – Fayenatic London 21:42, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Jamiroquai remix albums
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Jamiroquai albums. (non-admin closure) GothicGolem29 (Talk) 13:59, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Jamiroquai remix albums to Category:Jamiroquai albums
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains one redirect. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support merge for nominator's reasons Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 07:15, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 11:11, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:42, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Football Clubs owned by Redbull
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 6#Category:Football Clubs owned by Redbull
Category:Entertainers from Akwa Ibom State
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Akwa Ibom State by occupation. (non-admin closure) GothicGolem29 (Talk) 13:59, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Entertainers from Akwa Ibom State to Category:People from Akwa Ibom State by occupation
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. underpopulated with only one category in it SMasonGarrison 02:20, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge This is an unneeded layer of category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:06, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support merge because the current situation does not help navigation Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 07:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 11:13, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:43, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Gambelia
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 5#Category:Gambelia
Category:Persian Armenians
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Armenians in Iran. Clear consensus to rename to Category:Armenians in Iran. (non-admin closure) GothicGolem29 (Talk) 11:47, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Rename Category:Persian Armenians to Category:Armenians in Iran
- Nominator's rational We have several categories that use Foo in Booian Empire, such as Category:Serbs in Austria-Hungary. The general view is that using 2 demonyms is very confusing. The reason to switch from Persian to Iranian connects with our article names. This will change the scope though. The heading of this article says "[Armenians]] who were born in or lived in the Persian Empire under the Safavid dynasty (1500–1722) to the Qajar dynasty (1794–1925)." That is an irregular heading for sure. Persian Empire is actually a redirect to Achaemenid Empire which ended in 332 BC. The polity the Safavid dynasty ruled is entitled Safavid Iran in our article. Why this scope. A more logical scope would be to have Category:Armenians in the Timurid Empire and then have Iranians in Iran cover people from 1506 on, including those in the less stable period between the collapse of the Timurid Empire and later. Although I have doubts that there are enough biographies we have on Armenians in the Timurid Empire to justify splits along these lines in Category:Medieval Armenian people. Since roughly 1500 is normally seen as the end of the Medieval period using the fall of the Timurid Empire to start the scope of Category:Armenians in Iran might make sense, although I am wondering if including any Armenians in the Timurid Empire in the Armenians in Iran Category might make sense. The category evidently currently excludes people from the 72 year period between Safavid Iran and Qajar Iran. I have no idea why. I am also less than convinced that the fall of the Qajar dynasty in 1925 is a reasonable place to end this category. I think we could have Armenians in Iran cover people up to the Present day.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:09, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- We do have Category:Armenian people from the Sasanian Empire. That is the Empire that is wiped out as the armies of the Calif overrun Iran. That category has 25 articles. It lasted on the order of twice as long as the Timurid Empire. That maybe could be a sub-cat of Armenians in Iran, but I am not sure.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 11:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Mozambican women engineers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) GothicGolem29 (Talk) 14:00, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete These categories are in the appropriate engineers categories and other women engineers categories so we do not have to delete them.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support delete for John Pack Lambert's reasons Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 07:22, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 11:17, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- delete for now per above --Lenticel (talk) 03:43, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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